Should I Stick It Out In California or Move Now?
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He's right. Your children will tolerate the stress of a move a lot better than the stress of having unhappy parents. I know.
I bet u theyâre not as unhappy as they think. They livin good
I wouldnât want to raise my kids in Los Angeles. I live in California, and I want out so bad. I just donât know how to do it.
Pretty soon Texas will be the new California and callers will be asking I need to get out of Texas and move to South Dakota lol
A friend moved from socal to Texas for the same reason. I love California, but I get it. It's not affordable to live here... You have to really love it to justify the cost... Especially the cost of the larger cities.
Or back to California. Lol.
This is sadly accurate
Or Florida...seems like most have been retiring here.
Same for Florida, Iâm moving north from Florida to get a head start lol
I live in Australia and I feel like leaving LA
That doesnât make sense. It would if youâre from Australia and thinking of leaving LA where you currently live.
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@@byefelicia8632 Maybe LA means Lower Australia :p
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Moved from CA to Nevada in November 2020 and I am so happy I did so!
Congrats! đđŸ
Nevada sucks
But California is lovely
@@glenncraigmeyer07 nah
@@glenncraigmeyer07 how
This guy's about to pay off an expensive house in LA in his early forties? He isn't "house poor", he is stinking RICH! His wife is right--he should relax a little.
Bad weather awaits đ
go on vacation! California has the most beautiful parks! so many cheap small beach cities. We left California because we couldnât afford rent there with our family of 8. I regret it. We left a big extended family and friends. We all suffered.
Yeah geez. The biggest advantage of California is all the great destinations in driving distance that can be done cheaply or 5-star. No excuse not to do a family camping trip to Yosemite or take a weekend getaway to an amazing resort.
Exactly my point
Seriously. This guy probably makes close to a million. Good grief, must be nice.
My husband and I just moved out of Cali this month. Best decision ever! Weâre less stressed, our kids are happy and we finally have enough money to spoil ourselves a little and pay cash for everything. We lived pay check to pay check too long in Cali.
Wish this family the best! Hope they make the move.
Hope you left California in California . No need to ruin your new state
what state did you end up moving to if you dont mind I ask?
I moved to California in 2020. Itâs been absolute paradise. Natural beauty unparalleled. I was born and raised in Texas. The people leaving Cali for Texas can HAVE TEXAS đ. Enjoy đ„
@@asmith7094 Sure thing.
Because it's not as if folks have been bringing their idiotic cultural and political baggage HERE - in droves - for more than a century, right?
Delusional.
@@oc4515 thereâs is endless things to do in California however if you have kids youâre very limited in terms of extra $ because of cost of living being so high in Cali
If you value your freedom and having more disposable income itâs time to leave.
And lower taxes. And less vagrants and homeless.
@@buffymcmuffin5361 so thereâs no homeless people in Texas at all ??
@C B yup
@C B Not yet..!!!!
@C B Wrong. CA has a lot more Homeless
The guy has 320 grand saved he could literally move down south or to Florida pay cash for a house in a nice neighborhood with a pool and have 100 grand left over.
Lol a nice house in a nice neighborhood in Florida will cost more than $350k.
Lol I was thinking the same thing, I was kind of confused when Dave saidâ you guys are tired of struggling and being miserableâ Over 300 grand saved up I would say theyâre doing pretty well, even in California
What neighborhood
Not including what he would get from selling his house im sure he has a ton of equity in it.
My thoughts exactly. I live in florida in a 1700 sq foot house worth 240 k today
I left my home state of California over 10 years ago. It was just too expensive to live there or start a business. Best freaking decision I've ever made. This pandemic and civil unrest has, more than anything before, made me believe that the heartland/midwest is where I belong. I'll never move back to CA.
If I'm being honest I'm truly sad at what my home state has become.
The media is brain washing you. Its not as bad as anything
@@grod805 the media and thousands of people leaving.
And this caller .
All made up
@@grod805 I have friends and family in CA still. I'm not entirely ignorant of what is going on in CA. Nice try though.
If the residents can hire actually wise people to tend to things that help businesses and citizens thrive, then all those people migrating out will most likely move back
@@grod805 eh you got that backwards buddy, the media is brainwashing you.
I stayed in California and pitched me a tent under the 101 freeway. Best decision evuuuurrrr!!
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Try Berkeley has a better fog presence.
I think I saw you everyday on the way to and from work.
Lol listed as room for four, close to freeway, perfect for commuters! Close to shops and restaurants đ€Ł
How much is your rent?
This guy clearly isn't happy anymore in CA. He said they were "house poor". Get out of there, now.
House poor with 320k in the bank? He chose to live that way.
@@efrengonzales1921 Which is exactly why that description is very weird. He's not happy in CA and feels he can barely afford it, even though the evidence might suggest otherwise.
Sounds like he could probably have a lot more in savings if not for their house and overall astronomical cost of living.
@@efrengonzales1921 House poor and cash poor are two different things.
@@stellarocquie7957 With 320k in the bank neither apply to this situation. He chose to live on a budget and not go on vacation or enjoy things with the family. House poor means all your money goes to your home expenses. He was able to buy a house and save 320k in LA! Money is not an issue.
Where we live, Californians have made it too expensive for people that have been here for generations to live here anymore.
@@patpatterson9719 itâs mostly the governor lol
Yea. Californians absolutely fk everything up that they touch.
@@SFray-sf7gr because they have more money?
Lol, you really wanna play that game?
@@gooseunit5931 And the people who elect socialists.
@@elliotjames1273 i would rather play a game that keeps all the Californians in California.
We left when my kids were in grade school. Best decision we could have made. Had we lived in a wealthy suburb in California things might have been different. The middle class is almost gone.
My kids are about to graduate high school, I live just outside sacramento, and doing great.
@@kbanghart Sacramento is much more affordable than LA. Lots of people from the Bay Area or LA move to the Greater Sacramento area for a more affordable lifestyle.
@@adrianelias2365 There's no reason to live in Sacramento when you can just go to Arizona and avoid all the democrat taxes such as the gas tax.
@@rwdchannel2901 If you're cool with staying indoors all day because of blistering heat for 70% of the year
This guy has $329K saved living in California and is complaining about California!
Itâs not just about the money! The quality of life and high taxes will kill you!
@@tulsaguy9963 Yea Cali has turned into a 3rd world country, just crawling with people. They reward sloth and punish hard work. Itâs just a matter of time before it implodes.
I live in LA and managed to save money despite the high cost of living but it is "crawling with people", noise and people everywhere! I think it's good for young single people as I'm getting older it doesn't appeal to me anymore.
I'm looking to move to a smaller less populated area where I can be surrounded by nature instead of inconsiderate loud neighbors.
Yes, people like Tucker Carlson and whoever else will try to tell you that. I live just outside sacramento, and doing great.
@@V.E.R.O. Yeah I'm thinking about moving to a small town in Oregon maybe. I do like some rain, and would like to be not too far from a coast. But not the South.
Caller: I'm waiting for my kids to graduate to move.
Dave: Sell the children, clear your debt and pay cash for the house.
đđ this was funny
I'm gonna name my kids rice 'n' beans.
@@bjkarana You have kids !?!?!?
Dave: I wouldn't advise having ANY form of debt. đ
@@DC-wq4do hahahaha! I have a daughter; I'm never gonna have any money again!
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Callers like him annoy me, takes forever to get to the point
You mean you let yourself get annoyed.
He's probably in marketing. :)
@@Michael-4 no idiot. If thatâs what I meant, I wouldâve write that
@@andnew1335 âwouldâve write?â .....Letâs not throw the word âidiotâ out there so quickly.
@@tammyrichie6379 thanks Tammy
You know it's bad when California is proposing to tax those who move out of state.
You know it's bad when people on the internet pull stuff like this out of thin air.
@@shaunafederici5082 it's not a lie it's true. No joke at all.
How people don't know this is true is beyond me. đ
@@shaunafederici5082 California exit tax, look it up on youtube
Youâre not the real Ramsey account. Stop liking your own posts and posting spam, SCAMMER!
Everytime I tell people I'm from California all I get is "I'm sorry"
I live in Alabama and get the same thing. đ
Everytime I tell people I'm from California, they ask me how can I get over! đđ€đâ
@@jmwichert8842 Hahahha! That's funny!
California is a great place to be FROM!
@@rlewislanier4250 I imagine the best view of California is the one in the rear-view mirror.
We're not living in the 80s or 90s where if you moved away you never heard from eachother again, it's 2021 for crying out loud. The teenager can still call, text,FaceTime and whatever else with all his friends even when he moves away.
I agree with you, however it's not the same as I. Person and hanging out... Going to the movies. With that said, what's best for the family comes first... I don't care if it's senior year.
@@aaroncook5928 yeah but all that went away with Pandemic
You also learn in a real hurry who is actually a friend and who was just wandering the same direction. The kids also have the option to move after graduation if they really want to.
Way easier said than done
@H A But realistic.
Caller: Dave, I'm failing my final exam, I don't feel motivated to study
Dave: What's your household income?
Africa is falling
Sell the car
@@farzana6676 How. We are the 2nd LARGET CONTINENT in the World. America is behind us so you can SIT DOWN
@@tonga05 Look at looting and burning in South Africa
@@tonga05 you judge a continentâs success by size?
I'm not so keen on callers with all their ducks in a row, I enjoy it when Ramsey tells someone to have rice & beans with no eating out or vacations đđđđ
If you move while the kids are in school, then the new place is their home and they're more likely to come back later when they're grown. If you wait until they graduate then mom and dad's new place is not their home.
I made the decision to leave California and I'm literally sitting in my RV about to head out east later today. I sold my house and moved all my belongings to Texas already. The only thing left here in Cali is my truck, rv and jeep. I am now ENTIRELY debt free with $60k in the bank to start over out of state. When I get to texas I will be restarting my electrical career as residential instead of industrial as I was. Its scary not having a job atm but Cali was destroying my finances and I just couldn't see a future there.
wow, if you can handle the biz side of entrepreneur there should be work, I mean if you can do the marketing and admin/accounting. Why not live out of the RV for a year or two? You could really do well as electrician, those skills are needed with housing boom. Get up to speed with local mentor and Quickbooks if you can....Good Luck to you.
Haha
@WorldFlex East Tx has a lot of lakes, friendly gun laws, and family.
Even if Texas isn't as great as everyones saying it will be a great adventure at the very least. I see no downside to this and only positives.
My parent left our hometown when I was a senior in high school...it was difficult. However, it ended up being best for our family. I appreciate that sacrifice now. It is more important for your family unit to move. He is going to move on at college anyway. So I never felt like I missed anything.
Same with me. 23 years later, it was best the decision they could have made
Hope my kids feel the same way. We are moving far away this summer
Here's the thing though - they can afford Cali, the Dad just hasn't adjusted his mindset out of being a tightwad to allow them to enjoy what they can now afford.
@@colleenduffy1139 I think he is looking at the future and realizes it looks like much, but it is not sufficient for retirement etc. The family as a whole will benefit.
This is true Texas house prices are going up like crazy and then a lot of people that are living here can't even afford the houses now
Caller had 300k equity in an LA house which was probably worth 2-3x that. 300k in most of Texas is a paid off 4/3/2 on a quarter acre lot with 20k left over to eat out occasionally and pay for Mom's vacations. No wonder there's a housing supply issue in Texas.
Be aware, if you wait to move until your kids are out of school, your kids may end up staying put and living far from you, they wonât have any reason to be where you are in a new area. Focusing on staying somewhere for the kids can be shortsighted for some.
Man, that's such a good point! My Wife and I are thinking of moving from CA this coming summer, our kids are young (5,3) but I never thought about it like that. Definitely adding that to the Pros column!
My parents moved when I was a senior in high school. It was painful at the time but the best thing that ever happened to me long term. I learned to adjust and change because of it. Don't worry about the kids.
My parents moved when my sister was a senior also, she hated it, and it was just okay, not really great or terrible.
You'd be surprised at how many families are moving to Texas daily.
And paying $400-1000 dollars monthly in property taxes on homes that will flood or get blown away by tornadoes/hurricanes if your pipes havenât frozen or electricity is shut down due to the grid.
@@adg7147 yup. Even with all that you'd be surprised at how many families are moving to Texas. Daily đ
And New York too .............
@@adg7147 I guess you haven't heard of homeowners insurance or did your common sense get burned away in the California wildfires?
@@FJF119 No one is moving to New York brah.... No one. đđ
Kids adjust their friend circle real quick. He shouldn't worry. But he should sit them down and explain the situation properly so they feel participatory in the move.
With $300k in savings/debt free, he canât take the family out for a little fun from time to time?
My thoughts exactly. A lot more to this story.
320K! Thereâs 4 holidays in that extra 20K. Haha
Delayed gratification is a concept that many cannot face.
@@themesofd Agreed. Listening to him talk about his situation is tortuous....so I am scrolling through the comments...far more interesting than this caller! There is stuff we aren't hearing!
That's two months rent or one vegan latte in California.
I moved from NJ to CA for exactly the same reasons, tax savings. Two kids were in HS and they both love FL. That was 10 years ago and our only regret was not moving sooner. In addition to the tens of thousands I saved in taxes, I saved on many other areas like Insurance, everything. Most of all, the quality of life is so much better down here. Everyone is happy and friendly, and it has been awesome!
Love California, sad to see it in such a mess.
I don't know, I live just outside Sacramento and doing pretty good.
My family moved from San Jose, CA to a small town in Iowa the summer between my sophomore and junior years of high school. When my parents told me, I was pumped! I was ready for a change and so excited to see someplace new and have a fresh start. It was all very exciting. Plus it got us all out of CA :)
What? Who is the kid who wants to live Iowa over San Jose? Lol
So glad youâre gone. Enjoy Iowa đ„ đ
I moved from San Jose California to a small town and I was in middle school. Now Iâm graduating high school and I love my little town way more than San Jose.
You should see SJ now, a bum on every sidewalk. I live there, it's awful.
@@mycobrahatesyou yea I visit every so often, I live in Patterson itâs about an hour or so away but such a huge difference.
It's tough to leave California!
Yup, itâs simply gorgeous
I miss when Dave took calls from people with actual problems. Half of these videos are humblebrags
Omg so true
Maybe people are actually listening and getting their finances together . Now itâs â humble brags â đ
My wife and I moved out of Calif in 1994. Even back then people saw what was happening and were leaving. I had to go on a waiting list for a U-Haul truck because the guy said all the trucks were going out of state and not many were coming in. I can't even imagine how bad it is today but that was the best thing we ever did.
Love it, well done to both of you.
We're in Riverside. I could've made this call. Thanks to the caller and to Dave for the insight.
Locked in by traffic in Riverside is the worst.
Just don't move here and inflate our prices...oh yea, you already did.
You must not be a homeowner :(
@@ImStuckInStockton not necessarily higher prices mean higher assessments which mean higher property taxes
@@bangladeshirealtor and taxes are a percentage of that increase so due to how math works you will always make money
Right! I live in Vegas and our rent is ridiculous.
Same here. They created their mess. They need to stay there and figure it out instead of moving somewhere else and creating their mess there.
We are staying in CA because our whole family is here, and the homeschool options are really good, plus beach, weather, and cycling
Is the exodus a myth? I have heard different things
Homeschooling options are good there?
@@sarahshanahan2222 it is weird. Yes people are leaving but I guess there are still so many people coming here that it doesnt matter. Home prices keep going up up up.
@@joshuageiger9452 yes, go figure. It is very easy to homeschool here and there are a lot of hybrid options too.
@@sarahshanahan2222 No but people will always still be moving in.
My parents moved me in 7th grade from Huntington Beach California to a 50 acre farm in another state! Iâm actually gonna tell you right now it pretty much sucks for two years, BUT IT WAS THE BEST THING THEY EVER DID FOR ME! I had opportunities in the small town we moved to that I wouldâve never ever had in California!!!!
Why was it the best thing for you?
@@nitathom she found a bum
HAHA!! Thatâs funner than you know @james sisoutham. @Nita Thom being in a smaller school (vs. a large school in Huntington Beach) I was able to do things like sports, cheerleading, things I wouldnât have even had a chance of making in a high school of 4,000 vs. a high school of 400, my jr. year in high school I was awarded a congressional scholarship to be an exchange student in Germany. It was amazing!! I was in a state where the chances were much higher I was going to actually receive the scholarship. . . . And I wasnât afraid of cultural shock because I had already moved from Orange County California to a tiny town in rural American. I actually talked about this in my interview for the scholarship. I went on to college and was a German Lit. Major. THEN! @james sisoutham, I actually did mary someone from an even smaller town next door to mine, which I parents werenât happy about at all!! HaHa, jokes on them we started a construction company in rural Colorado and all the reasons they thought I shouldnât marry him have most definitely been laid to rest! Lol None of this would have happened had we stayed in California. None. Period.
I want to move out of Illinois because of political reasons. But the other half refuses. Pritzker sucks.
Carson City, NV has an EXCELLENT high school. They have excel programs where the student can graduate with an AA degree. I went there for a year. Nevada is heavily investing in their students. And, a bonus is they donât have income tax there.
We have no state income tax in South Dakota either đ
I'll move out of California but I would not sell my home. I'd rent it out.
Just be aware of the tenant friendly laws in California
@@dakotainthesky exactly why I sold. Far too many not paying rent when they could.
@Fabian Avalos Just wait till CA says if you have a renter home in CA you must let someone live in it for free, itâs definitely going to happen. We are going to sell ours itâs not worth the risk
@@vchafab It's coming, trust me!.......
And be an out-of-state landlord? Not on your life!
If you are not tied to the state by work (freelancer, etc.), then you definitely need to go to a more pleasant state .There are many states where you can get the same quality of life (or even better), but for less money.
Why move the entire country will be just like California here shortly
True So I guess it wonât worse so why would you leave
Because a million dollar house is a $120k house in other states.
That what kamala said. USA need to follow California lead. That their plan so people can move to other states and California it.
Pay off a house with land and buy some time. Prepare for the inevitable unfortunately.
@@highbrass3749 you got it! I buy my food locally or grow our own. I have a 16' x 16' greenhouse we are about to set up. The plan is to avoid the inevitable $6/pound vegetables. Chicken /duck coop is about to be installed, too. Venezuela 2.0 is coming.
I call BS on this.....if they think the grass is greener and tastier on the other side of the fence.......without actually tasting it ..you don't live in real life...!!!
Mommy and daddy get to make the life decisions in this family. Hello!!!
it really depends on where you live in California. I live just outside of San Diego. yes the real estate is expensive but other than that I can't complain
I live "just outside of San Diego" as well and can't imagine moving - ever.
@@larryhawes9322 itâs a great place!
Me too, I live in North County San Diego. Beaches, Mountains, Forests, Deserts, national parks combined with great weather and well paying careers. It's heaven here. I dont want to move to the roasting hot/humid southern states making a quarter of what I currently make.
@@Budgie_uk good point. The pay can often be much lower in other areas.
We often have great weather year round which has a big impact on a persons mental and emotional health.
Very true itâs funny how much real estate differs from city to city and people are scared without realizing their lives could be solved by moving a few hours without leaving the state but I think itâs more of a monkey see monkey do that most are doing
Back in March 2020 I started working from hone and I started watching this channel everymorning. Told myself I'm going to pay all my debt AND I DiD now Im in TX moved from Los Angeles and about to buy a house cash from the equity. I still had 10 years to payoff my mortgage. I AGREE I WOULD HAVE MOVED Yesterday. Thank you Ramsey I thought this channel was BS.
I pray whoever reads this will be successful, keep fighting for success, them rich stay rich by spending like the poor and investing why the poor stay poor be spending like the rich yet not investing, Roar!! Invest, earn and be successful.
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If you want to be successful have the mindset of the rich spend less and invest more don't give up your dreams..
Impressive, I realized that the secret to making a million is saving for a better investment.. I always tell myself you donât need that new Aston Martin or that vacation in Hawaii just yet and that mindset helps me make more money investing.
Cryptocurrency /forex trading is a big chance to make money nowadays, if you can't see that at this point is time you learn more about it
Most people stay poor only because they got discouraged by friends and relatives who stopped them against investing while the wise on keep on investing and growing higher financially
stock trading controls the huge part of my passive income, i invest big and profits even bigger
Parent in Texas put their home up for 250 and got an offer for 280. The price was already marked up to me. Must be a pretty rough place
Fixer upper went for $735k in San Diego, CA. It's mind-blowing! So yeah, LA is even more expensive, sell the house and be happy elsewhere!!
I have lived in San Diego for years. Crazy high housing prices. Always surprised that people are moving from other states into San Diego, but they are. At the same time a mas exodus to AZ, TX, TN.
@@judyfabion8849 That's because people are, for reasons I'll never understand, seeing CA as this great utopia. No, thank you. I'd rather deal with snow in the winter and no beaches anywhere near me than ever set foot in CA.
@@jmr9735 so youâve never been to CA?
@@supercoolheckyeah I have, and I never saw the appeal. It was okay, but, IMHO, the blech outweighs the good.
Donât walk, RUN!
Come to Quarks, Quarks is fun
Donât walk, run!
I moved out of California in November 2020 with a kid in 8th grade. Like this caller I had many reasons to leave CA. I moved to New York State. I am so much happier and my son is too cause life is better for us. If my son had the choice he would have said he didnât want to leave California but he wouldnât know any different. He has lots of new friends:)
NY is Just as expensive if you moved to NYC and LI. Upstate is a bit cheaper.
Born in LA, still living here. LA has been good to me, until the transplants moved in and fu@&ed it all up.
100%
And the illegals.
Transplants?
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@@ghiaferrari7585 Ppl not born there
Please stay in CA. We don't need anymore transplants in AZ, MT, TX, etc! Plus, in your 40's and still using "like" and "ya' know"??? PLEASE stay!!!!
Don't forget that wherever you go, 'you' will be there and California is not a bad place to live if not a great place to live. Los Angeles? I dunno about that but to say that California with over 40 million people and the most diverse climate and geography perhaps in the world is a bad place to live? It's just too big to generalize such a large state. That being said, please move to where you are called to move to, and enjoy wherever that may be.
Unfortunately California has become a cesspool of high priced everything.....
@@Hootowls5 Do you live in California? Do you do any research or think for yourself? Or do you just believe what you are told? Prices are high no doubt but a cesspool? That's simply ignorant.
Point taken, but let's be real. Its the bay area or LA/San Diego as far as where jobs are and such, and those are also where the tents and crazed sidewalk shitters are. That's the reality for anyone living a middle class or even upper middie class life. I'm in NC but horrified how far LA and SF have fallen when I visit. Not safe.
@@GUITARTIME2024 Being real looks at CA as a whole, not as a few cities that have a bunch of homeless people. There is a LOT of CA besides LA, SF, and SD and their homeless populations, that's point I would make. Not that there aren't homeless but they represent a tiny piece of CA when looked at as a whole which most of us cannot/will not do and simply lump CA into the same pile of 'sucks' and other phrases that simply do not and cannot describe CA in all of its complexity.
@@larryhawes9322 I've been all over CA. I've seen tons of beautiful places there . But as a place to live, if you have to show up to an office job, you are dealing with massive traffic and homeless issues in some way because you are herefore in the three main metro areas. I think CA people don't get how absurd it looks to outsiders that tents are allowed on sidewalks and city parks and police can do nothing about insane sidewalk shitters.your state is abnormal.
I left after 30 years, if I could go back and give my younger self advice it would be leave sooner and with less. If I had left with nothing but the shirt on my back I would have been better off.
But why? I live I California and I am able to manage perfectly fine.
@@Brraddd The people that leave California are mostly people that can't make it in California. Mostly.
@@coltonthorne2274 nope. They are sick of traffic and traffic and house prices that are ridiculous.
When your children are doing well and have solid friends, it is not easy to uproot them and go.
My parents moved twice when I was in high school, out of state each time. It was fine, it prepared me for adult life.
Dave you provide a great service to innumerable people, with your advice and obvious caring.
âCaringâ lol. He is a financial âguruâ that gets wealthy from his âadviceâ. You really think he cares? Lol
The only thing which prevents me from leaving Silicon Valley is the amazing weather. It overrides all other negatives.
Living in LA and in the same situation trying to save up so I can leave... cost of living and the crowding is just too crazy.
I'm from Cali too and love the atmosphere here, unfortunately I'm thinking the same thing because the policies are taxes here are overboard, it's just sad:(
and not are goof
when i was a teen i may have liked to move , it would give me a chance to get away from the beating up and bullying i had to deal with .
Left California in 1990 and never looked back despite growing up there. My sister and mother and cousin cannot get out there fast enough
yeah in 1990 things were just fine here.
They're moving INTO California?
Good, because me and my family have taken their places đ It is AWESOME here. Bless yalls heart.
Insightful
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Eventually with more and more people leaving CA this state actually might turn out ok. I live here and am sticking it out through my career. Rather than run to the next soon to be overpopulated state Iâd prefer to stay in a state that may be less populated soon. If things donât change I may change my mind but it is still very possible to make it in CA. Never move just for taxes.
People who follow the herd and leave will find things are getting expensive everywhere else too. Meanwhile, 2020 was a great year for an ambitious person to get a great job in SF and lock in a lease at a lower rate. Everyone will do whatâs best for them and things will even out.
No it wont...still will be the same because many of the metro areas were already overpopulated.
the spiral of water is starting to spin in the toilet that is california, but you just want to hang, good luck with that, your middle class hard working neighbours will be gone along with the jobs they had and they will be replace with your homeless population. should be fun at your next block party.
@@ezyryder11 I don't feel like walking by a bunch of homeless taking a dump in the gutter every morning.
@@crzyruskie86 cool, neither do I. And people living here donât typically experience that. Check out Bernal Heights or the Botanical Gardens in SF, Atascadero by the coast, or Santa Barbara. Skid Row and the Tenderloin arenât the entire state.
DAD WHO CALLED IN: DON'T MOVE until your older child graduates high school. Switching high schools can be really tough on him emotionally.
I was going to say the same thing. Vacations arenât going to mean much if the kids have trouble transitioning into a good peer group and end up emotionally scarred or worse, bullied.
Same. Skip vacations for two more years, itâs hard enough for young kids right now socially,
Moving would be cruel
Which is worse, sad Timmy Cent who moved in high school or remaining in a state which may threaten his life and freedom?
Haven't kids in California been doing online learning for the past year ? If he moved to another state he might actually get to go to in person class and meet some friends.
@@chernagast6754 This is a very dramatic comment lol.
LA isn't California. it also depends on your career and where you live in LA. there are trends too, when industries thrive and decline. i sold one of my houses yesterday in two days with a large profit
I live in Costa Rica and Iâm already thinking about moving out of California.
I'll continue making my massive home equity gains in CA, but I wouldn't be opposed to retiring out of state.
It's gonna be the same everywhere very soon. I'm sticking it out, and will have no regrets. California is just too Beautiful just a few miles out of L.A., property values are not gonna lose any real value, anything for sale sells immediately with often bidding wars.
@Andrew DeSantis I agree, acting like your kids wonât resent you is wrong. They will have a hard time when they developed so much friendships and connections until high school. Especially cultural/political differences that exist in a new school across the country may be hard for them to adapt to. It can have negative educational impacts on them as well, becoming a liability for the parents.
@@alphathefirstone1222 yea I thought the same thing but just try visiting the Middle East side itâs so much friendlier and much more relaxing to one self
@@alphathefirstone1222 I mean outside of California, in the east side like Illinois/ Iowa / Missouri/ Texas other states on this side
@@gooseunit5931 OH ..i THOUGHT you meant east la.. Yea it pretty bad out here... I wish I could leave but i have deep roots..I am one of those that is hurting money wise..but my qaulity of life..No gym..no night club.. no dinning in.. is getting to all of us...B1
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Move from NJ to NC was able to buy my house cash. I too was afraid of my son changing school and friends. He is doing great at his new school and has made friends. Trust me, at first itâs can be hard but itâs good for them. Plus it will teach them not to be afraid of change.
My family moved to Texas and VA... from CA... crazy times
You canât beat this California weather and diversity. Thatâs quality of life that no other place has. But itâs pricey no denying that.
Diversity is a benefit now? Howâs that working out for childrenâs standardized test scores if English isnât the predominant language in the classroom?
Californian..."I've crapped in my own backyard and want to leave" Waaa
That's the most idiotic thing posted on this thread and that's saying a LOT.
@@matthewgardner2144 well you must be a Californian or someone thats not paying attention. Laaalaa
Now tell us how you really feel about Californians
@@OCDTraci They move to my state with the same ideas that don't work anywhere. They are fruits, flakes and nuts. Anymore questions?
@@thefarmersdaughter8235 You're a treasure.
Leaving in May also.
I moved to CA in 1963 at the age of 24. Back then California was a free state, full of life, optimism, and opportunity ...
Sadly, that once wonderful and beautiful state has become a trash heap in more ways than one ... so I sold out and moved out.
As for me, I do not regret either move ... change is exciting, educational, and good for the soul.
He got the best advice. Do not give up too much of your present just for a better tomorrow.
This is kind of off topic. But I think the future belongs to well educated people who don't have a desire to have a family of their own and are spartan-like. Dependents and houses are way too expensive these days to be able to retire wealthy.
I agree. People need to re-think having kids in these times we're living in...
@@ilovemytribe The only problem is that the desire to have children is innate in most humans. It isn't something that can be re-taught to the majority of the population. And that is why those of us who were born without the desire to have children are extremely lucky.
@@carlosmendez1884 You're right. But maybe a movement should start just like the "Environmental Movement" for more and more people to start speaking out on not having kids. I remember Oprah used to always talk about not wanting to have kids. We need more people like her to speak out. Sometimes it just takes planting that seed to overcome people's conditioning and programming. We are biological beings but we also are more than just a primate animal. We have the ability to think critically.
Let's be honest this planet is way too overcrowded. Now we got all these homeless people in tents everywhere, all these kids in fostercare. Child abuse cases constantly on the news etc etc.
@@ilovemytribe you have a point. And also, things are incredibly sensitive right now when it comes to the survival of humans in general. We are one careless decision away from a nuclear war. Climate change may disrupt our food supply. Artificial intelligence will have the ability to easily kill many humans. People have to start thinking about bringing a child into this world because chances are that the child will suffer a lot.
You can do kids, you just have to get lucky and have your parents retire by the time you have kids. Then you can have grandma and grandpa watch the kids instead of expensive daycare.
people talk about moving to texas and then u realize the tax on the mortgage is 15-20k a year compared to california is 2k-8k
That's true! Consider the weather and potential damages, and food costs are a lot more
My dad moved us from Virginia to Texas my senior year of high school. I hated it at the time but looking back as an adult it was the best decision he made for his family, especially me.
whyd you hate it
His kids can keep in touch with friends, and visit friends while getting an upgrade in lifestyles.
This guy takes forever to get to his point.
Yeah, you can definitely tell he has relationship problems, not many problems. And if he doesn't fix his relationship problems, then his money problem will be fixed by losing half his money to the wife LOL
I went to three jr highs and four high schools! Making new friends was fun! I still keep in touch with friends from all over!
Your parents gave you good coping skills and other skills! Nice!
I'd start looking for jobs right now wherever they're thinking of moving to (if WFH is not available). After they move out of California the tax advantage just by itself could pay for their vacations every year!
Left Denver CO suburb for small town (and cheaper) Durango Co twenty years ago. Best thing we ever did!
I grew up in California .itâs the best state in the country but moving out of California was the best decision I have made
We are here still and I feel the same way about California.. Just need to sell my small business and we are out!
Then why did you leave? It's not the "best" state in the country (I lived there for 25 years). It has really great things, but right now it has very fundamental economic and societal problems.
Itâs the worst state in the country
Good to see Dave taking more calls from Cali.
The typical call used to be: we're from Missouri hubby makes 240k a year and I make 120K a year. We are in debt because we leased a car.
The people on both sides of this conversation are completely. lost. Living in Texos or the Midwest so you can have more flat screen TVs and vacations to Wally World ainât gonna fill the hole bro. SoCal, while pricey, is paradise.The dude seems to have lost sight of the fact that his house is almost paid off and he will be living in what amounts to a bank of retirement dough and wonât have to pay a mortgage...and heâs only in his early 40âs! Dude. I grew up in the Midwest. Thereâs a reason you can get a house for nothing there.
People are leaving California (I did it too) is because it super expensive to live there in comparison to the wage. In Texas I'm making a little bit more than what I was making in California but the living expenses are way cheaper. The people who are running California have damaged the state. High taxes to fill their wallets with more money.
The only reason people are leaving California is to cash in and reduce work loads. However, there is no mention of massive capital in houses to produce rental properties raising prices here and everywhere else. Plus, like people in Texas and Tennessee are talking about the Californians coming, the license plates in my condo complex (in South OC,CA) the past two months are from Florida, Massachusetts, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania. The cashing in will quickly fade, as I have just found out- my plan to move to Vegas was met with 10 t0 20 offers- overnight- ahead of me in every property I considered. This is a massive shift and bad mouthing California is just a distraction from who knows what? Do you, Dave? And now what do I do with this chunk of cash that isn't enough to buy a thing considered liveable?
California is not on the horizon for improvement any time soon. Many of the cities are becoming increasingly dangerous. If you are in the urban schools, some of them have a lower than a marginal rate for literacy & mathematics.
Even if you do not live in those deplorable neighborhoods, why would you want to have your tax dollars contribute to keep the wheel running?
In good conscience, I couldn't.
So happy myself and GF live in FL.
Just took a good job here in la county but Iâm trying to move tf out by the end of the year đ
Cali is a great place for single person, rent a room make a ton of money and once youâre ready to start a family, take that saved money and skills and apply it in a more affordable state
Muscle Beach in venice had to be cleared out due to the overflowing homelessness and Corona..it is insane to see it.
Moving from CA to UT in May. Will be doing a happy dance when I go over state line and change residency.
Welcome! Also please don't California my Utah :)
I live in Salt Lake close to the U of U. You will like it here. Among other things, it's very clean.
@@Titus7of9 Not having homeless everywhere will be a huge improvement đ
@@Titus7of9 south salt lake gang!
@@benjaminhawker6398 im Californianing yourre utah all over the place
We were in the same situation when our kids were in Middle School and high school best decision ever moving out of California after 31 years we moved just before the pandemic kids will adjust
If they were to move to the Central Valley they would be fine
His problem isnât California itâs L.A.
The Central Valley is still overpriced for the quality of life you get.
I agree
average middle class families are priced out of anything close to sacramento at this point
I have to disagree...
There ain't much in the Central Valley.
People commute in from the Central Valley to the Bay Area because that is where the higher paying jobs are. My coworkers leave at three AM to start work at 6am. By the time they pay off the loan on their car, its time for an new car and loan due to the high miles and wear and tear. Never made sense to me.
Itâs all of California.