All Risers | The Basu & Godin Notebook
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- On this episode of The Basu and Godin Notebook, Slaf vs Cole at the Worlds (0:00), Draft lottery: what happens at No. 5 (10:10), The Canadiens and draft risers (26:50), Trading down in the draft/reaching for a player (31:35), Would drafting a D be completely crazy? (42:00), MONDAY MAILBAG : Where do we stand on the Canadiens rebuild (59:25), Standing pat or looking for shortcuts (1:08:25), Trevor Zegras for the 5th pick (1:16:30), Clarifying Canadiens feeling forced to be in on PLD (1:21:00), Bottom six adds this off-season (1:24:25).
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Recorded: May 13, 2024
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Great podcast guys!! Really appreciate your insight. Keep up the great work. Regards from Scotland
Good show messieurs merci ! It's fun listening ! Sennecke = (SenneckA)
dammit I knew I'd mess that up
The only way for Montreal to draft Silayev at 5th without having a riot in Montreal, they would need to also get a Ignila or Sennecke at the same draft. If they only get Silayev at 5th, the réaction could be worse than after drafting Reinbacher !!!
Great show Guys.
Great show guys!
Just in time for Slav’s villain arc to emerge.
You're right Marc, watching him play, Lindstrom is a raw talent. He will require some polishing from Marty. And yes, you can't teach size! 😉
There's a few options Habs have before they decide who they will pick.
1) A trade to acquire a top 3 or top 6 forward that surely include a left or right defense prospect such as Mailloux, Xhekaj, Hugues etc... and the first round pick from Winnipeg plus maybe a bit more...
2) They trade their 1st round pick and a prospect for an established top 3 forward
Then might consider selecting a right defense if they trade Mailloux.
Big puzzle, very exciting!
if you take reinbacher at 5 last year while passing on michkov and youre already conceding david isnt going to be a number 1, thats an epic fail considering how loaded this draft is with potential top pairing dmen.
Merci a vous 2 j ai aimé du début a la fin...je pense que l on va avoir un bon jeune joueur au draft meme si ca va pas comme on veut. J ai l impression que notre 1 er choix de Calgary va finir par etre le choix des panthers donc tres tardif
I see your point abour having two smaller guys in the top six, but lets keep in mind that we have already seen Caufield in the playoffs, and he did alright.
Who was Lindstrom playing with in medicine hat? Was he on a line with McKenna? If so did that inflate his production? McKenna is probably the closest guy to McDavid. Factoring that and his back trouble, I think I'd just grab Senecke, the Hands, size, Physically and scoring at the end of the season and playoffs! He'll dominate the OHL next year. No one will question the pick in a year or 2 when he's crushing in our top 6!
It was quite a surprise for most fans when Montreal picked Reinbacher last year, however, I don't think there will be any problems this year if Montreal draft Sennecke since he exactly fits what Montreal needs on their top6. Indeed, most fans presently expects Lindstrom, Iginla or Senecke...but Montreal could still get Demidov if he drops at 5th because of all the good defensemen available in the top4 !!
He played on a line with Sacha who is projected to go in ~30 ish. Though Lindstrom probably played with Mckenna on the PP.
10/10 Pod
The good thing that might benefit the habs is all teams from 2 to 4 need defense desperately and a centerman but demidov might be to good to pass up for these teams though michkov fell to 7 and he could be a star but all consensus is that demidov is better so fingers crossed for demidov at 5 though on the chance he is still available at 4 I could see the habs trade up to get him. Personally Id be happy with demidov or lindstrom, lindstrom would be a good back up plan if dach keeps getting injured. Who knows they could pick one of the great d-men available and make a big trade for a forward giving away one of their defense knowing he'll be replaced. Pretty exciting draft coming up no matter what the outcome im looking forward to it.
If Habs pick Demidov , then the Habs will trade Caufeild. Can not have 2 shrimps in your top 6.....
It will be very interesting if Silayev is available at 5. If they grab him, it would certainly make Guhle expendable. As Hutson and Xhekaj would compliment Silayev quite nicely.
To me Ghule is the best D man of your 3. The expendables are ... WIFI ... struble ... mailloux .... Harris ... Baron ...
@FooFahFoeFum you're right he is the best. However Hutson and Xhekaj bring something different that neither Silayev or Guhle have. Since Silayev is projected to be a top dman whereas ad Guhle is more like a 2. This leaves Guhle as a legitimate trade bait to get us a top forward. Struble or Harris won't get us a top 6. Mailloux is a right shot. Not trade bait as we don't have depth on the Right.
Question. With the amount of defensive prospects that the Habs have and that are coming in that have the offensive ability, do you see the Habs converting to a 7 man defensive team perhaps with Hutson playing on a line with 2 other d men?
Not until they are a contending team. Have to let the young D play all aspects and try to develop
@@BaneOfV great point. 2-3 years from now seems logical
number 27 pick and a d man or tweo for zegras
2002 Draft Florida trades #1 to Columbus Blue Jackets for #3. Rick Nash -- Jay Bouwmeester trade
We weren’t mad that they took Reinbacher because he was a defenseman. We were mad because he doesn’t project to be anything more than a steady defensive guy. If he were a number 1 projected guy we’d be fine with it, he just wasn’t WORTH 5th overall. It was a waste of a tank ywar
levshunov is far more of a possibility as an 'exception' than silayev, IMO.
When are you guys going to make a [ top 6 forwards ] Habs should target ...12 players ...Have a spreadsheat showing ... AGE .. height .... WEIGHT ... SALARY ...UFA years ..... l/r shot .... Pts per /GAME ... HITS Per GAME ... Get me the names, I'll make you the chart..
I fear they drafted Reinbacher expecting they would end up lower in the draft this year and not be able to draft a high RD. Now they have to draft a forward but they might be stuck to draft another RD.
Which is better:
Reinbacher + possible RD
Reinbacher + lower tier forward (if demidov, lindstrom are gone)
Or
Leonard/Michkov + high RD?
We'll see.
Also, I'm not sure I understand when Kent Hughes is saying 'at equal performance, we would go with a forward' how can they evaluate a forward vs a defenseman being equal?
@@aliceb.7092 Hughes didn't exactly say "at equal performances", he said "all things being equal", which is pretty much a roundabout way of saying "if we have it our way".
... I AM CONVINCED THAT THE HABS WILL TRADE EITHER THEIR FIFTH PICK OR THEIR WINNPEG PICK ... IN A ( 2 FOR 1) ...... OR ..... (3 FOR 1).... The Habs will make another Kirby Dach type deal for a top 6 forward .... The player acquired has to be much much better than Roy and Newhook and be very large and intimidating ...
Could Chicago go with Lindstrom because he is doing well with Connor Bedard cousin Gavin McKenna
I doubt it. Demidov is the clear cut second best forward available. If the Hawks go in a different direction, it will likely be to draft a defenseman.
Would PLD turn into jo Drouin 2.0? Thats the question
I'd rather take a chance on Laine than PLD
Why would Habs want another 168 lb winger
Buium is the most complet d in this draft ...BUT LEVSHUNOV BRINGS DIFFÉRENT DIM3NSIONS 😮
Sennecke will get picked by MTL.
Arpon knows
If Habs draft Demidov that means that Caufeild is expendable. .... If Habs Draft Silayev that means 2 d-men are expendable.
Drafting a dman 5th overall makes zero sense at all . In 2 season I see our top 6 being in no specific order.
Matheson, guhle
Hudson , Logan
Arber , reinbacher
Unless one of these guys is traded on the day of the draft for a more nhl ready forward , no way we draft defenseman
how about 5th overall to sharks for will smith?
Chicago will draft Silayev
I'd rather the Habs take Silayev at 5 if demidov, Lindstrom and levshunov are gone than trade down or take one of iginla/sennecke/Catton etc
Indeed, that would be amazing...Both Silayev and Iginla /Senecke in the same draft !!!
Habs will only draft a huge player .... Catton.. Iginla... Sennecke are small.... LARGE IS 6-3 +
@@FooFahFoeFum I hear that Lindstrom guy is pretty big, like Slaf and Dach 😉
@@FooFahFoeFum Senecke needs to fill out, but he's 6'3 and will
Yall make me laugh lol Montréal unlucky with the draft lottery!?!? Try being a Redwings fan, we ACTUALLY are unlucky during the draft lottery 😂😂😂
I know, nobody has had it tougher than Detroit
I really don't like Lindstrom for the Habs, too many injuries and hasn't been that impressive. Catton, Iginla or even a big strong d-man would be a better choice imo.
Go and watch some of Lindstrom's games, may change your mind on what impressive is.
Trading down is one of the best way to lose your job as a gm
My fear with Russian prospects is that if the situation over there just gets worse, I would not put it past Putin to stop any young players from coming over indefinitely, or frankly any player no matter the age.
Also, the flat cap is now a thing of the past and I think it's disingenuous to compare the teams that won doing a full rebuild vs the teams that still lose doing a full rebuild, when the examples you gave before where Chicago, Pittsburgh, Tampa... They didn't just win, they won multiple times and are the closest teams to dynasties in decades. The cream of the crop have all done full tear it down rebuilds and all had amazing 1-2 punch obtained at the draft. It's not cherry picking to look up to the ones that did it best multiple times. I dont' know man, feels like more than a flash in the pan. If we see the Sharks slingshot past the Habs in the next few years... well, I hope the next administration gets the message that time.
I weirdly agree with Arpon. If they are stuck at 5, draft the D. Left or right hand, too much 1st pair D potential in the D. They are young, amd could easily trade a young D for for what they need in the future. Or even now they could take advantage of pld doing so horrible, and get him 50% retained for a yound D
Well.#'s 2, 3 & 4 are going to be Demidov, Levshunov & Lindstrom (pending medical evaluation) in any order. Levshunov will not get past Anaheim and Columbus (as dysfunctional as they are) needs a C. But will Not pass on Demidov.
The order is not as clean & clear as 2022 but the talent is. So Iginla, Catton, or even Senneke ...? Silayev does not fit MSL game. Catton is same size & style as B Point. And same weight as Kutcherov. And if Iginla is even close to dad ... He'll do just fine
Yakemchuk & Parekh play a style that the whole team needs to 'adjust' to. And we have Lane.
Silayev is a freak but might be a lonely fit(style wise too) .. the London bridge would be redundant.
Ya if Levshunov is there, we will take him.. but no LHD
If Lindstrom's medical looks weak .. then everything resets
I got dizzy reading your comments ... fun yes
When Basu talks there’s like a 5 seconds pause waiting for him to say something. Might be a speech disorder?
It's called thinking😅
Pierre Macguire who I trust his knowledge said, ... Sam Dickenson would be a great pick for Montreal if Lindstrom is gone at five,
#1 Celebrini, #2 Demidov, #3 Silayev #4 Lidstrom... We have a trade to announce!!
The Canadiens trade David Reinbacher to The Capitals for Ryan Leonard!! Habs your up. The Habs are proud to select Levshunov!
As a professional painter, I can say that your painting analogy was terrible.
hahahahaha fair enough