Bill Maher Debates Seth MacFarlane on "The Virus" Vaccine
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This is just like arguing with my family
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@@SuperJoshuaWorld64😆
Freakin' SWEET! I love family values that don't grind my gears, Lois.
Families should not argue. Hell, they shouldn't even share their political, religious, or extreme beliefs of any kind. Society already does that, and people need a mental break. THAT is what families and loved ones are for. That break from the chaos.
@@VexylObbysounds like you have a very lame and superficial relationship with your family
I fucking LOVE conversations like these. 2 people that are obviously really close and are not afraid of hurting each others feelings when trying to find the truth. We need to have these conversations without worrying about political correctness or feelings.
That is exactly what Vivek is pushing for this country. Jump on board.
And then they moved on and starting joking about something else. no prob.
Not with these fragile weak azz generations now-a-days 🙄
Having a conversation is a lost art.
@@howardeffron8107 Real debate is explaining your take with facts. Vivek explains his take with lies and falsehoods. Huge difference.
There’s a thing called the virus mutating. So if you get sick from COVID multiple times, it’s probably because it’s a variant. Also, some people have poor immune systems, and will just get sick a lot.
This 100%.
Bill Maher's point completely falls flat when you realize there is a new flu variant every year. "But I had natural immunity!" people say.
Also vaccine stops, slows down or weakens the virus from a stronger infection right? This means the body has less of a natural auto immune response or natural defense once infected. So an unvaccinated person AFTER infection has a much stronger natural immunity post infection than a vaccinated person post infection. Im not seeing the unvaccinated get covid multiple times like the vaccinated
Especially if theyve been vaxxed multiple times
@@AB-wg7qenah. The numbers show getting the vaccine was the best health outcome. But overall these conversations are silly. Bill and Seth don’t know anything about vaccines and people’s inability to apeal to any sort or authority such as vaccines shows we are definitely turning into a dumber society.
Natural immunity doesnt mean you cant get it. It just means your immune system is prepared because it will recognise the virus from before. Its a very similar idea to how vaccines are supposed to work. It also doesnt last forever with fast mutating viruses like covid or the flu but it can raise up again to previous levels from exposure to the virus. Constantly topping itself up from small amounts of the virus hitting your system a few times a year.
My whole family haven’t had any issues from the Covid vaccine or boosters and that includes my 97 year old mother. My brother-in-law caught covid before the vaccine was available. He was hospitalized for 2 months and developed blood clots. He was put into a medically induced coma. After being released from the hospital, he had to go to rehab for a few weeks. Recover took a long time before he could return to work.
What was his health like before?
He was around 30 lbs. overweight in his late 60. @@ender003
It’s literally impossible to convince anti-vaxxers, no matter how detached from reality they are. Everyone who has half a brain know that Maher’s opinions are moronic, but they’ve embarrassed themselves too much to admit they’re wrong now.
Remember when vaxxed people were all supposed to be sick and dead by now?
My B.I.L. died in the hospital before the vaccine was released. He had been dealing with acid reflux and diverticulitis for about two years. He went into the hospital for abdominal pain on Fri and was positive for Covid-19. He died Monday morning at 3am from covid, he was only 65.
My Dad died of a sudden heart attack and I looked back at his heart data collected on his watch since 2017 - there were clear changes to both max rate, average rate, and arythmia that occurred after each of his Covid mRNA shots, each progressively worse. They’ve also now added myo and pericarditis to the warning label for these shots and numerous studies have shown the real dangers and lack of efficacy…so you can pretend like nothing’s new and we don’t know anymore than we did in 2020…or you can pull your head out of the sand.
Two guys with different opinions having a civil discussion with no relationship repercussions. That's how you do it.
One’s just wrong.
Next step, bring these two back - with their preferred-selected "experts" - to then hash out every little detail during 8-10 4+ hour long conversations. NOTE: Seth's side won't agree to such a thing because the flaws in the logic of their arguments and poor quality/bad data will get exposed, and then the veil of Seth and the rest of the indoctrinated-brainwashed ideological mob will be shattered.
One wants to let people do what they want. The other wants the non believers rounded up and enslaved.
@@BobbyHiII "There was no time in history where the people censoring free speech were the good guys. " - RFK Jr.
@@mattmyers2624 Imagine quoting RFK Jr lmao
Why doesn’t this have a CDC Covid-19 message next to it?
Because they're both hardcore liberals at the end of the day. They're married to the establishment
Because it’s been downgraded to being pretty much the same parameters as the flu.
What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities???
We’re not even having this conversation if mandates was not a thing. That was the issue mandates is what made everybody lose their shit.
Nonsense. The REASON america went down this rabbit hole is because after the middle class was gutted, you started dumbing down the population so they could no longer respect the fact science is important. The mass media has everyone convinced in the U.S. that their opinion matters. In decisions of public policy like health, it doesn.t. The LAST person I would listen to for medical advice is Bill Maher, OR Steh Mcfarlane. I will listen to my primary. Mandates or no mandates.
Yeah that's true. According to WHO, for a highly contagious disease like measles, you need 94% of people vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. According to Yale Medicine, 3% of adults are moderately to severely immunocompromised and can't get vaccinated. Depending on the polling, somewhere between 17% and 22% of Americans continue to refuse vaccination. Regardless of how you personally feel about a mandate, it seems clear that without one, not enough people would ever willingly get vaccinated in order to protect the people who are medically unable.
stop whining like a little wuss - be a man
There is no debate.
It's truth vs propaganda.
The truth ALWAYS lies in the middle. Don't forget that.
@@brockreynolds870 That’s not always true. Some people claim to earth is flat. Others claim it’s not. The truth Does not lie in the middle. It’s not partially flat.
Hitler claimed that Germany was entitled to a whole bunch of land in the east. Everyone else claimed he was wrong. There was no middle ground there.
Sometimes truth is in the middle and sometimes it’s not
Get the jab it’s for your health. Also you if you die or get injured you have no legal recourse, the pharmaceutical companies have the legal immunity.
@@SandwichShoppe Its a lotto with the jab and covid, I found myself after I moved back from the uk, Ireland in a weird massive uptake of the jab while covid was still going crazy. I felt as long as all my family had it at least Id be the only one to die not them, so after second wave I took my chances. Glad I did know after all the info about the rich with their fake covid passports and the head of one of the companies
Don't get it then and don't ever get your kids vaccinated for ANYTHING or your pets vaccinated and make sure your local farmers don't vaccinated your meat etc.
There is a reason the average lifespan is TWICE what it was 200 years ago and it's not idiots like you. It's science.
@@SandwichShoppe
Testing endlessly isn't the same as time, time is the harbinger of ill effects.
And long covid is proving to be disastrous and unvaxxed people are still dying of covid. Time has proven that right wingers fear-mongering about the vaccines were wrong entirely
How much time? What are some common long term side-effects of vaccines?
@@wrenis_pinkle How is your heart doing?
Probably better than the high blood pressure folks clawing at ways to contradict scientifically-supported solutions. @@mkultra2456
@@mkultra2456Better than those suffering from long covid
Dying with COVID and dying from COVID are very different things and I haven’t seen any data where they differentiate the two. Early on, if someone had a stroke and died AND tested positive for COVID, it was a COVID related death.
no way to actually know except in the case of an accident like an auto fatality
Reporting was a huge fight! Many states fought for correct listing of cause of death and secondary conditions to keep Covid #'s low. We fought this and lost in AZ. A hiker has well controlled Diabetes. On a trail hiker gets mauled by bear. Due to blood loss ER can't control sugars, hiker dies. What killed the hiker? Bear of course not diabetes!
Patient with heart condition get's Covid. Body response due to Covid pushed organs (heart included) to failure, patient dies. AZ wanted it listed as heart failure. That is just wrong.
@@ronblack7870 I mean....doctors. That's their job to know the cause of death. The COD is not determined by hospital administrators
@@jeremiahlynn9584its actually determined by autopsies under normal circumstances but during covid they allowed doctors to put down what they thought was the most likely cause instead.
Exactly, you can't just look at all the death toll statistics and say, "all these people died of covid" simply because covid was in their system when they died, because they had a very weakened immunity from their other conditions that most likely is what killed them, and because covid is so contagious it just easily attached itself to the person. Let's see the death toll stats that show a guy died just of diabetes complications and not covid, even though he likely had a touch of the covid, same with cancer, or heart disease, etc. They can't show you them because all they did was glob onto all the other deaths and said, "covid caused this." It's a bullshit snow job from the left to lie with false stats and sell the mandatory nature of the jabs and all the subsequent jabs afterwards so that the pharmaceutical companies could make a killing, and now you got teens and college kids and athletes bouncing off the walls with myocarditis and parocharditis heart attacks. It's one giant lie. Covid was never more than just the regular flu.
Of the 73 million children in the U.S., fewer than 700 have died of COVID-19 during the course of the pandemic. And the majority of them had co-morbidities.
Just ran a report on CDC website and ages birth-17 years the number was 1,048.
@@cgrohs1 A child is defined as 12 yrs and younger. Only during COVID did they start adding 13-17. Go into any pharmacy and look at the directions of any cold medicine. Look for that magic number of 12 years old.
@@dhaselbyLmao since when?? Every single person in common parlance refers to 17 and below as children. What a dishonest take.
@@aries8910 a 16y old is not s child, he's a teen
Source?
real pair of rocket scientists
And im sure you're a professor of physics.
Seth does appear well ahead on this one.
@@lciummo1 He keeps interrupting Bill who was making valid points.
@@mitchjames9350 "Valid" like RFK, Jr and other vax denyers.
@@lciummo1 yet excess death rate is sky high here in Norway despite 99% of people over 65 vaccinated and sweden has lowest excess death rate in OECD from march 2020. . Pro-lockdown people are responsible for alot of deaths.
Yikes!
How can someone with his intelligence have a mile-wide blind spot like this? It has to be willful ignorance/doubling down at this point. His position won't age well as more data emerges.
Right!! It's baffling.
You're talking about Seth, right?
Who are you talking about and why won’t they you elaborate on what you’re saying?
Data they don’t like is just “anecdotal”. Didn’t you hear him say “how many people died from the vaccine? None.” Unreal.
You're talking about Bill, right?
I have a Covid Vaccine injury that I have been suffering from since....Taking the vaccine was the biggest and will always be the biggest mistake of my life.
My condolences
Nobody ever gave a s#!+ about people croaking from the flu. That number is pretty significant each year. Should we force the flu jab on people?
DON'T GIVE DEMOCRATS ANY IDEAS!!!
The flu killing is mainly an old people problem, Covid was killing a lot young people and if not killing having really bad long term effects for young people and they're the group that work and keep the economy going.
This isn't an apples to apples comparison, Covid was an unknown disease and we had no idea how deadly or how infectious it was.
8 million people die each year from smoking.
7 million from starvation.
And 8 million would be alive If didn’t smoke.
@@sethm10 _If didn't?_ *IF DIDN'T?*
I got 3 covid shots and still got covid. It was like a medium hangover for one day. Would it have been worse if I had no shots? Who knows. That being said, I probably wont be getting anymore.
I hope you stay healthy and have a great year.
Fun fact: 99,92% of those 7 million were un-v
That's why we get vaccinated. Because none of us know how a virus will affect us until it's too late. There were a lot of people like Bill who thought they didn't need it and ended up dying alone in an ICU.
Don't get them anymore man you're gambling with your life. Look up how much myocarditis rates went up since 2021
You should still get the boosters, especially if you have had COVID-19, because your chances of getting COVID-19 actually increase if you have had the disease before and not gotten the booster.
At 4:05 Seth struggles, but the word he's searching for is unvaccinated. The way the unvaccinated were treated during covid was completely unforgivable.
Thank you for having tough conversations that some of us have been having as well.
I guess family guy WON’T be making vax jokes then….
You haven't been paying much attention over the last 24 years if you thought they would
South Park will. And may have already.
@@Whitesquall123oh they have.
really?what episode?@@sethhawkins4152
Family guy did a Vaccine episode already
I don't know what's right but mandating it for pretty much everyone is crossing the line...
"... if someone gets natural immunity from a COVID-19 infection, the immunity may fade after 3 months. On the other hand, a child who gets measles is unlikely to ever catch it again..."
People need to do their research, stop just parroting talking heads that arent infectious disease experts..
I like both of these guys as comedians. As medical professionals, not so much.
Well technically one of them is saying, hey lets listen to the medical professionals that have studied this stuff and know what they're talking about. The other is saying i don't trust the medical professionals, I'd rather believe the conspiracy theorists.
Medical professionals say different things, you agree went the experts only when they agree with the narrative.
@@meimou1754 what narrative may that be? Facts? The same facts you don’t agree with because they don’t fit your narrative? Got it
@@meimou1754 Which medical experts say vaccines don’t work? Quacks??
@@522abet How do you know they know what they are talking about? They have absolutely no clue what they are doing. This is a fist of its kind vaccine. Something that affects you on a cellular level might not be detected for 20-30 years. Can you imagine the financial and professional fallout if they're wrong and the insane steps they will go to cover it up?
Heres a fun stat. Pre covid we hit the highest pediatric flu deaths since keeping track. 155. When COVID hit, and we allowed that diagnosis to supersede/replace the FLU diagnosis for financial reimbursement, it dropped to exactly 1 flu death. When COVID was deemed over, pediatric FLU deaths came back (because covid was no longer monetized). That should tell you everything you need to know about COVID deaths in general. Where is my info coming from? The CDCs own website.
I made fun of those who in 2020 were saying that covid was just like the flu, or really it was the flu, but now I'm like didn't it behave like the flu? About the same number of folks passed on directly due to covid as the normal flu, and if you got ran over by a car but also had covid, then your passing was attributed to covid, so if you take away all those "car/covid" unalivings, then this covid thing really was about as damaging as the normal regular flu. But Pig Farma made billions off of the jab that they patented in 2019 specifically for it.
Also, just like the flu is a new strain like every year, that's why you have to get a nother nother flu shot once a year...... well, same same for covid, how it kept reappearing in a new variant about once a year.
Kinda almost exactly like the flu. But more profitable for the big boys.
And that would have nothing to do with schools and everywhere where kids would hang out spreading the flu closing?
First, this is because COVID was more infectious than the flu and crowded it out for a couple of seasons (the same thing that now happens between variants of COVID where one strain eventually dominates). If you look at the number of people who tested positive for seasonal flu by the CDC surveillance network during flu season, end of 2020 to early 2021, it was only 1300 cases, compared to 130,000 during a normal season like 2019 to 2020. And keep in mind that this testing is done purely to detect flu strains, this is not doctors choosing to code a patient as COVID positive for the purposes of insurance payments.
Second, it's also because for a brief period of time in 2020 a huge portion of the country did indeed buy into "flattening the curve" as it was presented and stayed home for lockdowns. I can't speak to masking behavior across the entire pandemic but 2020 was without a doubt the year of highest compliance among people who suspected they could be sick as well as people who worried about getting sick.
I think these factors do a good job of explaining why we had historically very low levels of common cold, flu, and other transmissible diseases during the periods of greatest COVID spread. The unusually low pediatric flu deaths you're mentioning reflect this.
@@Haberdasher102 Negative. There is no evidence to support what you're saying. You're telling me flattening the curve worked on the flu but did not work on covid? Sell that to someone else. Also, yes physicians did diagnose COVID over the Flu for financial reasons. A test was not needed to diagnose COVID. A presumption the death was caused by COVID sufficed (per the CDCs definition of a presumed death). Now add the fact that COVID and FLU symptoms are nearly identical.....It doesnt take a lot of thought to know what diagnosis would take precedent. Sometimes the obvious answer is actually the answer.
Disputing an argument by citing BS stats is not all that helpful.
This is not a debate. This is two utterly ignorant people reflexively verbalizing their gut feelings.
62 no vaccine and never had covid
They're 12 suites on my floor. A close friend lives at the far end of the hall, We remained social during the raging of covid neither of us took the shot and we're the only ones who never got sick. . Everyone else on our floor did and they all got COVID. One friend down the hall started hemorrhaging internally and had a stroke.
It's in the studies that were published that there was not full disclosure, and in fact taking the MRA shot open the doors for being much sicker if you do contract covid. The flu shot debate is going to rain on forever I think. I come from a long line registered nurses and surgeons. Neither my mother or her sisters (all RN's) would ever take a flu shot and I don't remember them ever being sick.
Living on a WHOLE FOOD diet helps. XoXo ❤
It sadly is just the luck of the draw, as a kid I got all my shots and glad I do not know the days of TB. measles, Polio etc. It killed ppl and gave long covid before we had the vaccine about so again it was a gamble if you got it. I was lucky that I never did and when the second wave hit I was not brave as you to be super social. The timeline of the lockdowns never meant I( needed to get the vaccine to travel and the only reason why alot of Irish got it was that it was only way to get back in the pub. Now I am glad I never bothered and took the chance instead of jabbing myself with a drug that even the ceo of the company didnt. I do find it weird like you that all my family had the jab and all got covid while i did not. I only hope that the jab saved their lives and they didn't die like many others I know. Still I think what a lotto
and if your friend down the hall posted his side effects he would get shadow banned on social media. Anything to prevent vaccine hesitancy. Meanwhile when i see shit like that i become hesitant. The canceling and shadow banning created most of my hesitancy.
You could have had covered and not felt sick. You and your friend are probably i'm pretty good shape.
Covid is some kind of health Rorschach! I got Covid early and it has been with me ever since. I never got tested. Family never believed I had it. Treated in ER and family would not pick me up at hospital afraid they’d catch it! I did not vaccinate because it would have been redundant. I wish the media and pharms had refrained from the hysteria and pushing things. It has never been a generic scenario. It adversely affects some and is a non factor for others.
@@mercywilliams2698vaccines lower the chances of spreading Covid.
Didn’t realize Seth was such an NPC
There is a difference between infected and diseased, you can be infected by the same thing an infinite amount of times, the average person will only get diseased once.
If any vaccination was that wonderful and safe and effective", pharmaceutical companies would not need indemnity.
indemnity is only given in certain countries, they are open to prosecutions in many countries. Also their stock price would plummet if it came out the vaccines were bad. It would be a huge headache for future regulatory approval for other drugs.
Yeah, kind of like your boy needing immunity to avoid being hanged
@@ravoid36but not the US. That’s what they meant. The People who have faced repercussions in the US have no wear to sue.
@@ravoid36And I just looked at the stock and it has tanked over the last year in a half so according to you they must be bad i guess.
@@ravoid36 Indemnity was not "given", it was bought by lobbyists... politicians sold us out so they could produce drug after drug and make money hand over fist, while advertising anywhere a screen could be seen by a human in the US.
"Why vaccinate for measles or mumps or any of those things?"
Because those vaccines actually work.
But there has NEVER been a vaccine for a corona virus before this, ever...
Except that anti-vaxxer's and others who refuse to get their kids vaccinated existed well before COVID.
So does the covid vaccine lmfao
And they already decades old. Meanwhile, Covid vaccines were proven in EU court to have not gone actual trials before being put into market.
As does the Covid vaccines at preventing deaths from Covid. You're not one of the brighter ones are you?
The remark that people had COVID four or five times is true, but once you had COVID and recovered you do develop antibodies similar to that of getting the vaccine. However, that immunity from the antibodies can wane and that's where you can get COVID again leading to getting infected multiple times. This is why people get a booster for COVID-19 to restore those antibodies.
Why don't they put the disclaimer on this video but others they do.
Hate to be a “Party Spoiler” but thought this would be a raucous non stop laughter event but it’s great see their differences don’t preclude a friendship 😊
How many people died something else and just happened to have covid and labeled it as covid deaths
I read that hospitals got like 10k for every covid death which is all the motive you need to mis diagnose cause of death.
@@codemcloud6073 yup
Well if they're on a respirator and coughing and can't breathe what do you think it is?
The % of people who died from COVID was a fraction of miniscule world wide.
Never had one jab and dont intend to have one. Im not anti vax as i have had vacations but there is no way i was taking that.
The science is not even relevant here. You should be allowed to choose NOT to get something, no matter what the consequences for your health are.
When I got my first covid vax, they explicitly told me I was less likely to catch it, but I still could. But if I DID catch it, the vaccine was designed to keep me out of the hospital. That's all I wanted. Also the reporting of covid deaths was way overblown. Here in Florida a man died in a motorcycle accident. Cause of death: terminal road rash. The autopsy showed he was infected with covid, so he was counted as a covid death. They did that, no matter what actually caused your demise, if you were infected with covid - symptomatic or not - it was counted as a covid death. Other states were doing that too, probably all of them.
😂 You thought Covid would send you to the hospital? Lmao 😂😅
Canada too
@@MrZambrano101 What, you've never known anyone hospitalized by this thing? I lost a number of friends to covid, directly died from it. Some before the vaccine, one notable one who wouldn't get vaccinated (she was in her 80s). Another friend was hospitalized. Survived, but her lungs are trashed.
@MrZambrano101
I know nothing about you except a single youtube comment and i guarantee You are a traitorous trumpster.
Fyi i know 4 family members and a couple friends who died from covid directly
COVID deaths were underreported if anything. Faulty test kits , people not being tested.
People start to think ... They are using their head ... They think with their own head / brain ... Good thing.
I don't do vaccines period and I'm healthy. Live right is the reason why I'm healthy at 55.
Seth we've had people under the age of 40 die from heart attacks. I know two personally who have passed 28 and 30 years old. One was a emt/fire fighter. The other was a professional snowmobiler. Both had covid before the vaccine and didn't even realize they had it till they got tested. But because we live in communist canada they where still forced to be vaccinated
Or, let's imagine, that maybe it wasn't the vaccine.
Nah better to assume things that push my view of the world that I've already decided to have.
@@merrbino Why are you so stupid? Who did this to you?
Seth failing to go along with the blow job joke might have been the hardest thing to watch in this clip.
And what WAS the BJ joke - we never heard it!
He said it at the very end. The joke was, whatever number Seth says, Bill says *phew* (sigh of relief), as if to say “ok good, then I’m not officially gay yet” lol
@@daveman4321 Thanks. And I watched that episode twice.
That's because he's a fraud. He's as edgy as a stick of butter that was left on the table for 3 hours.
Proof seth is not funny, man had no funny answer for such a rudimentary setup.
Family guy is not funny
Never took the vaccine had covid 1 time still doing fine
Let's goo
The jab first dose put me in the hospital. Healthy male. I only got it to take a job overseas
Sorry Seth but the Barrington Declaration has been signed by 938,866 people of which 16, 000 are medical and public health scientists. You say that unqualified people shouldn't be allowed to critique 'the science' and on the other hand you dismiss those people who signed the declaration.
Immune systems and peace talks are so yesterday.
😂💯
Believe in what you want to believe. Get the shot , don’t get the shot. Respect the decision of others and move on. You’re not going to convince either side.
You know Real Time will be off the air this winter when 1/2 the staff gets Covid and the other half is sick with flue.
We can't convince them because they will drop lifeless before they see the truth.
That's fucking stupid, one side has actual scientific evidence, and the other side has feelings and fear. How are we supposed to not dunk on antivaxxers when they're so clearly wrong?
That's fucking stupid, one side has actual scientific evidence, and the other side has feelings and fear. How are we supposed to not dunk on antivaxxers when they're so clearly wrong?
That's fucking stupid, one side has actual scientific evidence, and the other side has feelings and fear. How are we supposed to not dunk on antivaxxers when they're so clearly wrong?
Seth is a tool!
Did Seth seriously just bitch about the vitriol from the anti-vax crowd? Are you freaking kidding me? The absolute vitriol and hate towards anyone who dared disagree or or ask questions was off the charts and while are are at it where is Seth's virology degree?
It was 7,000,000,000 no 70,000 no 700...who knows I input all those numbers in with my fingers. THEY manufacture facts/numbers. No one knows
Yep whatever scares people now go with that. We will correct the “science” later.
If it was 7,000,000,000, no humans would be left on earth to debate the issue. Nice work invalidating your own comment
Brother in-law got the vaccine and shortly after developed a blood clot that killed him. He was healthy. 41 year old. Leaves behind a daughter. Died alone on the sidewalk.
I’ve heard this story many times, many that make zero connection with having been vaxxed multiple times.
My brother didn’t get vaccinated and when he got Covid it caused DVT. That was two years ago and he still struggles with DVT today. I’m not sure what’s worse honestly but I do think our government is trying to kill us one way or the other.
Sorry for your loss but FYI the vaccine doesn't stop death it prevents COVID
Sorry to hear about your brother-in-law and his daughter who is now without a father. Any loss of life is terrible. But looking at reports we can see blood clots were a side effect of 4 out of every 1 million people, and only from the J&J vaccine which is no longer administered in the US. This is why we don't go by anecdotal evidence and need to rely on statistical evidence.
😔 Many, many others died from the shots too.
"Why not vaccine hesitancy for things like measles, why not polio?".
Probably shouldn't tell him about the 0.01% death rate for Covid for healthy young/middle-aged people.......
Because those vaccines went through decades long trials and the COVID vaccine was forced on the public after mere months.
4:25 to blame Trump for it.........getting better, and it wasn't Bill for a change..... and the "Death Count" for covid, was grossly overstated due to the money payed out if the box was checked on the death cause.
this is correct. Actual covid deaths are about 5% of the total covid death number in the US.
@@duckie81267 million people died from Covid…
@@BobRoss-wm3lc liar!
@@mattsharkey8437 dipshit bot who can’t come up with a counter argument!
And you know this how?
I ike Bill, but..... he's way too invested in how he thinks to effectively absorb new information. Such a shame. Statistics are key, and yes, we all understand that real data is sometimes hard to find. But it's there. And like it or not, there are way too many eyes on the ball for misinformation to remain relevant.
Yeah, and I can listen to two different immunologists that come to diametrically opposed conclusions about the eficacy of the data itself. The fact that data exists doesn't make someone's analysis of it objectively true.
Yea people tend to skim through and find the data they want... Like the fact that if you're under 60 you had a 99.993% survival rate which dramatically dropped every 10 years. Yet we mandated college kids
@@user-hi3rs9hz9qthe vaccine lowers the chances of spreading Covid though.
If only you knew how easy it is to skew data and make it look like we want it to look lol...
@@Digit0wLyup
Bill is condescending 😂😂
Ya THINK? 😊
That's funny cuz I saw it the other way
Nah,
Billy's CONDESCENDING
Especially not a CELEBRITY.
Viewer since the 80s on Carson.
However, Bill knows EVERYTHING about COVID and Pays ALOT of TAXES..LOL
He'll TELL YOU ALOT...
@@Plug604 Well arent you special
@@zapkvr I don't understand your comment, could you add some context to it.
Who cares what family guy thinks I havent had the flu shot ever
I remember when Bill Maher was normal. Man, what happened to him?
Seth is full of crap saying he's never gotten sick in 20 yrs. His linear thinking is insane to me.
I'm very rarely sick, however it would be extremely uncommon by any standard to not fall ill from time to time unless you isolate yourself.@@utubnagain
Dark glasses and holding a cigar inside a studio wow bill is away with the fairies
THAT'S A BLUNT BRO!!
....cigar 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I hope those weren't Seth famous last words
"oh, it was just 63.000 kids hospitalised with this harmless disease. I guess that's normal"
Kids with tons of other health issues.
I know I'm kind of late, but I'm SO glad this interview finally happened!! I've been a big Seth MacFarlane fan for years, and the chemistry between these two has always been uncanny, even when they disagree. 👏
To me the biggest harm was the way this has divided people and friends.
It's what our government wanted all along
No. People have divided people and friends. Republicans spread misinformation and then say "why are we not allowed to question".
They are pro-choice when it comes to vaccines but not abortion.
Make it make sense.
To me the biggest harm was the 1.1 million Americans who died of Covid
I think the crazy amount of easily preventable deaths and absurd continued anti-vax misinformation is a little bit worse
As it was designed to do.
I didn't take the jab I haven't had COVID.i know a lot of people that had it not than once and they got the vaccine.
I like how “the movement” and “aggression” is freedom of choice 😂 leave the jokes the the Family Guy, Seth. Nobody gets the flu and turns around to get the flu shot. “The science.”
😂😂 nicely done gents. We can debate this and remain friends 😊
Everyone knows that one person who had Covid multiple times with a vax and lived
But Covid is the gift that keeps on giving
Damaging kidney and heart and lung tissue permanently . This is how someone I love ended up on life support after routine surgery and never recovered
Vaccine damage.
After my father got the covid vaccine he could not get out of bed for over 6 months he almost died the first 3 months he never had covid before the vaccine now he always gets covid
I'm sorry your father died but we did an autopsy. Millions of vaccines have been given all over the world. Vaccine reactions are usually acute . Maybe he was one of the very few that had an untoward reaction , maybe it triggered an unknown problem and maybe it was a very sad coincidence . But without these vaccines
Millions more would have died
unvaxxed people caught covid multiple times and lived.
@@happymood888 I'm sorry your father was one of the few.
Never thought i’d live to see such a dystopian hellscape. Seth is either a true believer or under somebody’s thumb.
Bill Maher torched Seth MacFarlene. Thanks for the link, ResetEra. 😂👌🖕
Seth's argument about measles vs covid shot is a false equivalency due to you only needed one measles shot, not 20 hahaha try again pharma plant and get back to your cartoons....classic celeb
And the measles shot does NOT mess with your RNA.
Seth is literally Brian lmfao
If I need MEDICAL ADVICE, I listen to the President...LOL
This conversation is a real meeting of the MIND.
I was pro-vaccine and took plenty of precautions in the meat of the pandemic but Seth is inaccurate with saying getting Covid lots of times means you're not immune. Cellular immunity is why we don't generally have issues with other respiratory viruses; we've had it at some point.
Has anyone here changed their minds about the vaccine over the years? I'm very curious, I had several heated discussions with friends and family but none of them have changed their mind.
Yeah I changed my mind.... before covid I 100% trusted science and the government and tought any skepticism to vaccines in general was dumb. After getting 2 doses, being told I wouldn't get covid and getting it anyways (and also learnings covid was man made) I don't see vaccines whatsoever as black and white
Good question. It's easy to critique after the fact.
The lockdowns led to the inflation economy we see today. The lockdowns heavily negatively affected people who have to go to work ... That's millions and millions of people.
We don't want to talk about it though because we want to work from home.
Most idiots who got the clot shot will never change their minds.
@@warrenny I'm a high school teacher and have seen how the lockdown REALLY messed up my students.
@@danielnieto7346 thanks for the honest response. Do you recall what it was that made you finally flip? Like was it an article? A video?
Weird, a liberal that’s not pro choice.
Did he say anything about this vaccine beign legally mandated? He's only extolling the virtues of it. You need to be able to comprehend what people actually SAY, and not project your political bias onto it.
Not even close to the same thing.
Seth Is surprisingly scared of saying something funny these days
What happened to herd immunity? We were all sheep I guess
The fact that people pretend natural immunity isn’t a thing is horrifying.
Did not work in Sweden, also some stuff we need to get jabbed for. On a side note Seth is wrong that the vaccine is well tested. Ask the world in the next few years what the effects were, alot of rich EU folks got their covid passports by taking a water jab
LOL.
Sweden tried natural immunity, and it failed miserably. They apologized for the mistake they did attempting natural immunity, which slaughtered their people disproportionally compared to their neighboring countries.
it's a resistance, not an immunity.
@@willtwain1383🤣🤣🤣🤣Nope,nice try though
I'm a lil surprised by MacFarlane's take.
He is wicked smart. Bill not so much lately.
@@linguaphile42I think that's why he's surprised with Seth's take...because he's supposed to be so smart.
I'm blown away... I thought, being that Seth has 'cerebral humor' - any very funny at it - that he would be smart enough to use common vaxx sense, but I guess he's either a sheep or he's in on it.
@@linguaphile42 He's not "wicked smart". He's wicked funny. Idiots conflate those two things.
@@jackwagner547lmao how about you explain why he’s wrong instead of leaving your hilarious republicans generic disagreement…
"That's assuming we're all alike." What??
His point makes sense. The guy who is morbidly obese, has asthma and was diagnosed with a heart condition is not going to have the same immunity or statistics to survive like an 18yr old athlete. The person with out of control diabetes is not going to reach the same as your average 30yr old who exercises.
The WHO site says 3.4 million worldwide. Other sites say 6.9 million. Wtf is it
"trust the science" is the least scientific thing ever said ever.
science is about "I don't just believe you. prove it". that is science
Science = Seance
that only works when its other researchers debating about it. Us uninvolved people have no clue wtf we're talking about when it come to highly technical shit
@@Stoneworks prove it
@@drunknpoet I mean technically in this situation we need you to prove it. So, tell us about all the highly technical shit they work with? If you proclaim you know what you're talking about, tell us? What do you know about what they do?
@@Dana21283 So, I need to prove it but science doesn't? That's a very odd stance to take, random internet person.
Firstly, the Scientific Method didn't stop existing just because you want to be an experiment with legs. Proof is still needed at EVERY turn for it to be science.
Secondly, if you just blindly trust the scientists themselves, you may need to look into how Dr. Joseph Goebbels operated during WWII. Nuremberg Trials and all of that, you know.
Thirdly, (since this video is specifically about the vax) You do understand that belief without proof is faith, not science, right? I do not prescribe to the Medical or Scientific Religion, therefore I will need the level of proof to very high before I believe them. Perhaps it is good enough for you, but not I.
They need to prove it, not us (or me), you backwards random CZcams person.
Sorry, Seth. I’m an adult who’s had plenty of annual flu shots in my lifetime. I still got the flu 50% of the time.
How do you not understand anecdotal evidence vs statistical evidence?
@@solarblitz4524 Yaawn. How do you not understand it's pointless to state the bleeding obvious?
You do realize that vaccines are not the equivalent of a get out jail free card right? Vaccines just lower your chance of catching said disease and helps you keep the severity of it to a minimum.
And when it comes to flu shots specifically, they use previous data to try to predict what strains will be prevalent in the upcoming year. Thats whats in the shot. At no point was it ever said you are guaranteed to not get sick.
Sorry, I’m a physician and you don’t understand why we need the shots, Flu and Covid, measles and Mumps, etc. There’s a science behind it and it’s shocking how little people actually understand. Seth gets it, apparently. Refreshing to hear someone with logic and respect for science and public health.
Good luck in the next pandemic. I’ll be getting vaccinated.
Cool anecdotal evidence.
@Bill according to the CDC website 776 children under 4 died of covid as-of june 2023 and 1071 died between 4-18 by the same time
This was a bummer… number 1, it’s not a vaccine.
Good debate. I'm happy to say that I'm not vaccinated, and I feel great.
Never been vaccinated, and I've never had Covid.
I never vaccinated and I caught Covid at least once (confirmed by test) and was over it in a day. Had to wait for a negative test before going back to work though.
Had it before the vaccines had it once after the vaccines. However i did more traveling, less social distancing, and hardly any mask wearing after the vaccine because having it and then getting vaccinated supposedly made you "super immune".
It did not.
Just wait.
@@groovyroom I'm a special motherfucker.
If it didn't happen during an election year, our response would have looked completely different. It was all about overreacting to make Trump look bad.
You don’t need a virus to make Trump look bad.
This Is a really nice, BOTH sided discussion. Even though I more agree with Seth, but I can still agree with Bill about the fact that yes, all medicine and science starts out a little bit of a guessing game, but we improve on it and we should be able to ask questions, fund more research, and ask for improvements. 👏 Well done guys! Hahaha and funny of course too! cheers!
This guy don't get it. It should be option, not mandatory.
Not in the middle of a pandemic where a virus is widespread. It’s still widespread. The only difference now is the variants are weaker now and we have treatments and vaccines. Hospitals were being filled to capacity with COVID-19 patients.
@@RocStarr913 Still, it should be a choice. They lied about the vaccine, what it was capable of, how long the lockdowns would last, the USA's involvement in the gain of function research, how well the vaccines had been tested, etc. The people in charge have proven they can't be trusted on their word.
Yeah, I should be still option.
Look at this new drugs doing to people. You're a Guinea pig.
It was an option and employers, immigration etc should also have the option of saying no.
@@RocStarr913 Yes, even in the middle of a pandemic. Nobody has the right to tell me what to do with my own body.
not to mention a huge study by the CDC and Israel shows people with natural immunity are the best protected against hospitalizations. No one seems to mention this...
Thank you.
And yet lots of people had covid more than once... so natural immunity wasn't there for them...
Bollocks
@@BadBird686 well…if a vaccine just keeps you from getting seriously ill, hospitalized, or dying, then the natural immunity is likely the same. But better. They’ve actually studied it and proven that. Quite a few studies, around the world.
Yet those with "natural immunity" are getting Covid multiple times. Covid is not a fun time.
Seth is like a walking “model” for a complete liberal.
Seth needs to watch Dr John Campbell
People who compared the Covid vaccine to the measles vaccine….it was a comical time
Can you explain more in detail about your comment instead of just leaving a generic comment?
@@BobRoss-wm3lc Sure! You people compared the measles vaccine with a 97% effective rate to the Covid vaccine with no effective rate….it was very comical , still is 😂
@@BobRoss-wm3lc The comment only seems generic to a fool.
@@joelbarish Yeah, nothing generic about "people." What an incredibly specific term. Only morons wouldn't know who "people" is supposed to be.
You could have just explained for all us simpletons who aren't terminally online like you, but you couldn't pass up any opportunity to be an obnoxious douche-guzzler.
@@BobRoss-wm3lc dumb ass
I didn't get a single shot and never got COVID, on the other hand one of my best friends got COVID after he got the shot.
do you know what an anecdote is ?
I got all of the COVID shots and never got it. There was one incident where I started to feel sick so I went to bed early and the next day I felt fine.
I should add that I have an autoimmune disorder and greatly rely of everyone getting vaxed for the herd immunity that it gives me. That is the real purpose of vaccines.
Do you know what many anecdotes are?
Statistics. @@KRSapphire
Never got it. Know too many people that have had strange things happen to them. Including my brother in-law dying from a blood clot following the shot. He was healthy. 41 years old. Died alone on a sidewalk. A coworker, 35, had a stroke a month after the booster. Yeah no thanks! Y’all take your experimental shots!
@@rabbit251my natural immunity would offer you the same protection. I contract the virus and my body recognises it for the next time i have the antibodies and will have a degree of immunity in terms of symptoms and being able to fight off the disease more efficiently. How is that different to being jabbed?
There is a woman I know from CZcams, got 'long covid'. She has to be fed with a spoon and she is paralyzed, almost like a coma, going on 3 or 4 years now. That vax I took, the J&J, I didn't want something like that to happen to me, my Mother who just died from covid would want me to have taken it, so I did.
I have double cholesterol now, which might be a side effect. I think this situation is truly a 'catch-22', between a rock and a hard place, no good option.
Only if you believe the vaccines stopped severe disease and death. Unfortunately the data shows the opposite is true.
my dad was a healthy 50 years old took the vax for his job and now years later he still has heart attacks all day everyday
My father had it 4 times WITH the vaccine and boosters.
well I crashed my motorcycle at 50mph not wearing a helmet and lived, but it still wasn't a good idea, asshat
Did he die or get hospitalized?
@@tonydavid7950 He survived because he had the vaccine, that's why he is not answering you.
@@tonydavid7950Exactly. I had it 4 times also, and had the vaccine + boosters. It was mild every time but the first, which was at the beginning of the pandemic and before the vaccines were available.
I got it once, naturally. I never got it again.