Trial Tube - Ultimate E- Bike test! - Mecatecno Dragonfly 2023

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • What can I say? I had the chance to test a bike at a very demanding trial, with complete honesty and no restrictions on the test!
    For the first time ever a brand has had the guts to put their money where their mouth is! With so much on the line the team at Mecatecno have out-done themselves.
    This is what the channel is all about. This is what we do. Give the best experiences the go-ahead and find the truth in the sport!
    What an event! What a chance, what an episode!
    This is Trialtube!

Komentáře • 132

  • @kelvynbettridge
    @kelvynbettridge Před 10 měsíci +12

    Great to see TrialTube out on the bike again. Electric trials bikes offer a lot of hope for a rise in trials popularity again.

  • @victoralbornaserret289
    @victoralbornaserret289 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Good job man! As always a pleasure to share time with you 😉

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks again man, what an incredible experience!

  • @davidevorider2002
    @davidevorider2002 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Loving it, trial looked amazing too

  • @robsev24
    @robsev24 Před 9 měsíci +2

    So glad trial tube is back. We need more danny butler

  • @docwobtv
    @docwobtv Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is such an awesome video! These guys are the pinnacle of trial entertainment!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you guys! Back at ya!

  • @gordonshort4264
    @gordonshort4264 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Nice one , cracking review .

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks man! Sharing is caring 🤘

  • @petegunson2324
    @petegunson2324 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Nice one Danny. I really enjoy watching your adventures. You inspired me to start riding again. I had a big one during a rally on Mallorca last year and broke my back.I had a lot of time to watch your show,.After 6 months recuperating I bought a Montesa and it has been great for recovery and fitness.. I’ve even done a small Trial and loved every minute of it. Especially not having to spend a grand a day on tyres 😂. Keep up the good work. And This …….is Trial Tube 👍👍👍

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci

      Trials really is the best medicine!! Thank you so much for the comment!

  • @chrisb222
    @chrisb222 Před 9 měsíci +1

    nice riding there old chap - outstanding

  • @steveshepherd2712
    @steveshepherd2712 Před měsícem +1

    Very interesting the way electric bikes are developing and the fact noise pollution is almost nil it means you can ride so many more locations without upsetting the locals 😉

  • @stevesims8232
    @stevesims8232 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great job Danny, wondered where you'd been lol.
    Love the look of these bikes but need to win some money before I could afford one😁
    Enjoyed watching you do some real sections in a trial. Best wishes from Australia

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks bud and I have been back on the bicycle, it’s show season for me!

  • @slavcoworld
    @slavcoworld Před 9 měsíci +2

    Awesome! Now I need one in Canada for a review.

  • @JustinQuilling
    @JustinQuilling Před 9 měsíci +1

    Very impressive for an e-bike, especially in the water.

  • @endurojitsu3804
    @endurojitsu3804 Před 4 měsíci +1

    When can we expect the Dragonfly Vs EM? Thanks to your videos (and Larsen’s) I am now REALLY considering electric trial. Great for us living in the larger cities without easy access to parks - now the terrain is open ;) Keep up the great work and greetings from Belgrade, where we have two trials riders 😁

  • @danbutler2934
    @danbutler2934 Před 6 měsíci +1

    We share the same name but I can't say I can ride anything like you can, English ancestry passed down from my grand dad, but unfortunately no trials skill, Im still working hard on that.
    Really interesting bike and review Danny, thank you. These elec bikes are really advancing. And nice riding! Well done sir. I wish trials was bigger here in the US!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 6 měsíci

      Wow!! Amazing it’s great to e-meet another Dan Butler!! Thank you for the compliment and support bro. Also these bikes are super interesting and very different to ride. Having the support from across the water is awesome also. Please keep supporting the channel however you can and comments like these inspire me to keep making the effort! Promoting trials right will make it a bigger sport! 🤘🙏

  • @GroovyVideo2
    @GroovyVideo2 Před 5 měsíci +1

    nice bike looks like fun

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 5 měsíci

      It’s different, but good, in a weird way…

  • @tonyv7660
    @tonyv7660 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Bloody hell Danny! You interviewed Jordi with your Troy Lee Gas Gas hat on 😂 Seriously Danny, impressive riding. The Dragonfly is incredibly well developed. 🇺🇲 🇬🇧 🇪🇸

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      Haha it’s the Supercross hat I just like it lol

  • @jackmckinnon8256
    @jackmckinnon8256 Před 10 měsíci +1

    the thing i always remember about riding in Andorra was everything is uphill !!!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Tell me about it, super steep

  • @Calzaturificiomos
    @Calzaturificiomos Před 9 měsíci +1

    Nice boots💪🏻💪🏻

  • @AUBREYTHOMAS1979
    @AUBREYTHOMAS1979 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Damn that bike is cool

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      It really is!! They have done a mega job!

  • @paoloern
    @paoloern Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the nice and interesting video! I'm still not clear on the battery life. How often should the battery be changed/recharged in competition use and in training use in a closed area (for example indoors)?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci +1

      In the case of the conditions that we rode the trial in the smaller of the two battery sizes lasted to the fuel stops on the lap. Which matched the length of a full fuel tank on a normal "gas" powered bike. But that was using the most powerful mode and using MAX power a lot of the time.

  • @careymurray1027
    @careymurray1027 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Great review! Nice to see the Dragonfly developing. I have an EM Epure race, 2022 and I'm very happy with it. I'm curious, how does the Dragonfly compare to the EM?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +8

      It’s lighter, a lot lighter and I am gonna be honest it’s caught up rapidly and May even have surpassed it??

    • @MatteoTortello_com
      @MatteoTortello_com Před 10 měsíci

      great to hear it!@@TrialTube

  • @UkiDLucas
    @UkiDLucas Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love your channel. You mentioned “quiet” electric, but in the video it makes a high pitch whine, how does it compare to combustion sound. Also, how long does it last in mountain terrain trials? Thank you!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thank man we do our best! It’s high pitch sure but it’s a lot quieter than a normal combustion bike

  • @richy84
    @richy84 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Loving my dragonfly. Would never buy a petrol trials bike now. More than happy with the stock maps, but it was reassuring as it should be for other potential buyers that mecatecno can tweak the maps to suit the rider.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +2

      It’s true they have done a mega job! The bike I rode also had the “anti- rollbacks” and “inertia” maps activated!!!

    • @richy84
      @richy84 Před 10 měsíci

      I might need to see if they can add that to mine

  • @paulstevenson1547
    @paulstevenson1547 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Awesome review. Absolute immense riding!!! Get some well earned Kip!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +2

      When I got back I actually ended up with exhaustion, but worth it!

    • @paulstevenson1547
      @paulstevenson1547 Před 10 měsíci

      @@TrialTube mate you need to rest up!!!! I was goosed after riding 6 hours with Stu at trials day!!! 😂😂 then again am nowhere near your skill

  • @isidorostsikis3860
    @isidorostsikis3860 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Love your videos....the question is... epure race or dragonfly for a medium level trials rider?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 6 měsíci

      I have never been allowed to create a proper Vs video as I am sure EM uk wouldn’t be on board..

  • @chrisb222
    @chrisb222 Před 9 měsíci +2

    i absolutely love mine and live down the road frpm the American importer - double bonus - clutch is a bit sketchy still -- it was insanely uncontrollable a year ago - almost dangerous but they sorted that mapping right out and the clutch feels much better

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci +2

      That’s it! They have made it even better again btw

    • @bundletesla5882
      @bundletesla5882 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Do your forks work well? My brother just bought one, and the forks are so stiff it isn't even fun to ride!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci

      @@bundletesla5882 weird the one I rode had great forks but a little soft for my liking we had to stiffen them up!

    • @chrisb222
      @chrisb222 Před 9 měsíci

      i adjusted mine to be softer
      @@bundletesla5882

    • @se11459
      @se11459 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bundletesla5882 Are they air forks?

  • @simonkitchen5246
    @simonkitchen5246 Před 10 měsíci

    Great review! Is there a link to your score over the two days?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yeah just in the results of the trial:
      Day one I was like 17th on 29 marks and day two I was 4th and dropped 6 marks! Massive improvement!

  • @erikversteeg8802
    @erikversteeg8802 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video again Danny, i would prefer the EM over this. But great to see more brands. Last week i road the 2024 EM pure race and that bike is really nice. Much better than the EM i had from 2014 to 2016. Tempted to go back to EM (but my 2023 TRS RR 250 still a blast).

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Thanks for the comment bud! I know the EM is the original and I am always intrigued to make the comparison. I wonder if those brands would be up for it?!

    • @ianbeardsall4633
      @ianbeardsall4633 Před 7 měsíci

      Have you ridden one of these?
      I rode one yesterday for the first time and was blown away by its capabilities, balance and light weight. It’s lighter than the EM . The grip it gets in muddy sections is incredible.
      I was so impressed, I’m buying one

  • @strangehighways3
    @strangehighways3 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's very svelte and cyberpunk looking.

  • @se11459
    @se11459 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Danny are these smaller that regular trials bikes/ the EM? I'm 6'3 and don't want a smaller bike. This is a big deciding factor for me between this and the EM - cheers!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 6 měsíci

      The wheels are all the same size and it’s a full size bike and I am 6’2 so I think you will be very safe!

    • @se11459
      @se11459 Před 6 měsíci

      @@TrialTubeI really appreciate the reply! I’ll pick one up here in San Diego. By the way I gave you a follow on insta just now, you need to post more 😮😅

  • @TheSimonvalente
    @TheSimonvalente Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the vid.
    Was the bike you rode the same spec as the model on sale in the UK?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      I believe so, the spec hasn’t changed really, they have made all the improvements in the mapping!

  • @massimofirenze4869
    @massimofirenze4869 Před 9 měsíci +1

    🔝💪

  • @user-jj1il5fo1l
    @user-jj1il5fo1l Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hallo Dany, with which fork and which shock absorber was driven here?
    Doesn't look like the original part.

  • @techustle1
    @techustle1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What brand is the rear shock they running ? It looks bigger than the stock ohlins unit.

  • @chrisb222
    @chrisb222 Před 9 měsíci +1

    lol i need that seat cos i hit my bollocks on the "gas tank" every time i sit down

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci

      That’s why they built a seat pod!

  • @Nasphotography13
    @Nasphotography13 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What is the battery life like Danny, great Video BTW

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci

      It's good, it runs at the same length as a tank of fuel on the most powerful map…At its longest length..

  • @se11459
    @se11459 Před 2 měsíci +1

    EM got upset with this test as they read it as ‘Testing the ultimate e-bike’ instead of ‘ultimate test of an e-bike’.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 měsíci

      Pretty much, it was about what the bike was going to go through

  • @bcherrel
    @bcherrel Před 10 měsíci +3

    So did you have spare battery packs that needed changed during the day?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Yes, we changed them at the fuel stops. The only electric bike to make the fuel stop distance. (It’s a long way)

    • @richy84
      @richy84 Před 10 měsíci

      Just to say. All current owners, it seems are getting a trials worth and then some out of their battery.

  • @timora.5737
    @timora.5737 Před 10 měsíci +1

    As far as I know the m4 forks on dragonfly are with normal spring, not with air.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +1

      I had tried both. But the standard are better 👍👍

    • @tomascrowley8956
      @tomascrowley8956 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@TrialTube Bike looks great, I'll be getting mine in January with the higher capacity battery 4.0. Hopefully the squeaky bum moments are few and far between. So which fork exactly do you prefer? Is the spring fork the standard?

  • @timlewis5527
    @timlewis5527 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The sections look technical. On an electric bike how do you go kicking the back end around with a little bit of throttle? Super easy on my 4 stroke but I couldn't get on with the EM i rode

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      It was fine on the Mecatecno and it is light so easy to compress and move also!

    • @chrisb222
      @chrisb222 Před 9 měsíci

      i couldn't do it on my em but it is much easier on the dragonfly - it's so light

  • @stevesims8232
    @stevesims8232 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hi Danny, wondering how these bikes are for a beginner come clubman rider. Or are they really for the higher grades. Cheers

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci +3

      All electric bikes are clubman friendly and have multiple “modes” to keep them calm!

    • @ianbeardsall4633
      @ianbeardsall4633 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I haven’t been riding trials for around 15 years. I’m 60 years old and I went out yesterday to have a go on one of these.
      I was truly amazed at its capabilities. I could ride everything I would have done on my old bike in the second to lowest settings. But the lower weight (60kgs) and smoothness of the power delivery, made an old git like me look like I hadn’t been off a bike at all. 😂
      I cleaned a steep bank muddy/tree root climb I wouldn’t have been able to on my old bike ( not skilled enough in clutch control).
      I had a go on the higher settings and they were too powerful for me.
      I was so impressed , I’m buying one 👍

    • @stevesims8232
      @stevesims8232 Před 4 měsíci

      Hey Danny, another Q sorry. Do the mecatecno have a retard type braking like the EM regen? Thinking of getting one or the other but I'm only 57kg dressed in my trials gear and I'm 63.
      Thought some "engine braking " might be a good thing. Cheers Steve

    • @stevesims8232
      @stevesims8232 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@ianbeardsall4633 just wondering if you have your mecatecno yet. I have a question I'd like to ask. Cheers

  • @davidige276
    @davidige276 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I see on the parts diagram that it doesn't have a flywheel. How does it compare to bikes with heavy flywheels?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      No problems at all the electric bikes don’t work like that.

    • @davidige276
      @davidige276 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I was wondering if there was no minimum weight limit, is the Dragonfly capable of riding the red line at WTC? EM and TY-E have proven it at the national level.@@TrialTube

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      @@davidige276 I am sure it can in the hands of ORIOL Neguerra

  • @kzk157uz
    @kzk157uz Před měsícem +1

  • @victorvicvic446
    @victorvicvic446 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Subtítulos españoles por favor, nos interesa tu canal

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci +1

      I will get them added apologies!!

  • @timking1050
    @timking1050 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Your sandbagging you are as good as jeroni, he's my my friend and I hate ta say it,but ya are

  • @tizianocanonica3862
    @tizianocanonica3862 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Please test a cheaper version of an electric trials bike without a clutch like a Sur-ron LightBee X or a Talaria Sting R MX4. Could be very interesting what a pro like you can do with them.....with no clutch. Mecatecno is for sure a brilliant bike but too expensive for many of us.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci +1

      All of those bikes you mentioned are not trials bikes. They are like hybrid electric mountain bike / Moto x bikes. Would rather not pass judgment although I have rode a Surron and I nah e to be honest. What a terrible thing….

    • @se11459
      @se11459 Před 6 měsíci

      I was thinking of converting my Sur Ron to trials. You can put a large sprocket on the rear, 18" wheel and regular trials tire. Bars can be rotated forward/ swapped out. I would want to remove the rear seat/ part of the rear subframe to make it as good as possible. It could work!

  • @stan9636
    @stan9636 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The bike looks light weight and capable !!!!!! Is this better than Gas Bikes ????????????????????

    • @richy84
      @richy84 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Some of us owners sure think so

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +2

      It’s getting closer all the time!

    • @James-sf1ci
      @James-sf1ci Před 8 měsíci

      @@richy84What’s the top speed on your dragonfly? Just curious how they have it geared.

    • @richy84
      @richy84 Před 8 měsíci

      @@James-sf1ci I don’t know honestly. It’s fast enough for standing up off road that’s for sure.

  • @fredericchastro4263
    @fredericchastro4263 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Very nice review !!!! But please don´t put that horrendous rock guitar music anymore , let the waterfalls sound !!!😂😂

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci

      Everyone’s a critic…

  • @johnmorton5498
    @johnmorton5498 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Just over 100kg, give over Danny, you was parked next to me at Hooton Lodge the other week and your not even 90kg, I'm fat compared to you and I'm 96kg!!!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Haha honest man I weighed myself, I must have dense bones…it’s a bad dooo

  • @timking1050
    @timking1050 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Geese I think your better on this thing,,,hahaha

  • @petecuthbertson554
    @petecuthbertson554 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Electric NOT for me !!!!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 9 měsíci

      That’s fair, I just review them!

    • @simonManleeeee
      @simonManleeeee Před 8 měsíci

      I thought the same until I spent some hours on one, I’ll be selling my montesa and getting an electric bike.

  • @gonzaguelecloux5351
    @gonzaguelecloux5351 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Non pour moi ça reste une moto de merde 😡 on veut garder l'esprit de la bonne odeur de l'essence et non acheter des batteries tous les ans à des prix dépassant le prix d'une petite trial neuf

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 6 měsíci

      I get that and we are still very lucky to have all the gasoline bikes but this gives people options of course!

  • @roygumpel8415
    @roygumpel8415 Před 8 měsíci +1

    i recently tried a friend's EM bike and hated it. felt heavy and sluggish and I couldn't stand that sound from it. It felt so differently from a real trials bike, it was like something completely different. I have Zero interest in evern Trying it again.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 8 měsíci

      The electric bikes are an acquired taste but this one did me proud over a very long distance!!

    • @colinmueller_trial
      @colinmueller_trial Před 7 měsíci +1

      The Mecatecno weights less than a normal trial bike. It has 60 kg and is so powerful like a 300 ccm

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@colinmueller_trial trust me they don’t have the same amount of power on take off. Electric bikes aren’t there yet. But this did me proud!

    • @colinmueller_trial
      @colinmueller_trial Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@TrialTube I ride a Mecatecno and the power is an other , but you can compare it more to a 300ccm than a 125 ccm. 125 rider who ride my bike says it has so much torque like a 300ccm

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@colinmueller_trial if they are a 125 rider it would always feel more powerful. I rode a FACTORY bike in Andorra and I know it was down on power. The factory said this. The power has a different delivery but they still don’t have the same output as combustion still