"DEFENSIVE RENEWAL" - HOW BRAD HOLMES & THE LIONS BUILT A DEFENSIVE FORCE
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Note: This is not a Film Study video, there is very little game footage shown in this video. This is mostly commentary on the roster configuration on the Defensive side of the ball, and the resulting expectations that should be put on Aaron Glenn's group.
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Great video bro. You do a better job covering the Lions than most of our own content creators. Most of them just regurgitate the main stories covered by national media and come up with click bait titles to draw us in.
So true. I can think of at least 3 lions channels where they straight up read Pride of Detroit for content.
I agree 💯
@@controldekinai Woodward sports
That's what social media is for. Everyone thinks that they're independent in thought. But what does everyone do on social media? Insult everyone whose takes are different than their own. No one even asks for proof.
For instance the Eagles just went from being True Contenders to a laughing stock with almost the same roster due 100% to play-calling. Do you know _why_ no one seems to fully acknowledge this? Because everyone wants retain the take that only QB play affects outcomes.
Even on channels such as these you'll rarely hear people *in the comments section* openly criticize any HC. Those are Authority Figures. If the OC & DC were to blame, how does one point the finger at them without including the HC who should be responsible for them?
People can't. So they won't even blame someone HC-adjacent.
Normally I wouldn't care except that's at least something this channel & a few others at least do _sometimes._ & it feels a little insulting to sort of half-indicate that it isn't appreciated. & opinions are generally harmless until they lead to actions.
For instance it doesn't matter how many people still think Lamar is a glorified RB. They tried to replace him & make him look less important than he is & failed.
But what about Justin Fields? Getsy instituted the designed QB rushes twice, once in '22, the other time mid-'23 when Eberflus was presumably busy acclimating the new DC & Montez Sweat to the defense. (Eberflus has said repeatedly that He Decides what plays to limit the offense to & his o-line play-calls are similar to another micro-managing HC, Frank Reich).
The first time, Fields made the Bears the #1 offense 3 weeks straight with no o-line or receiving corps. The Bears lose all 3 games & because the public doesn't want to implicate the HC they cite this as proof that Fields can't win. They order him not to throw to certain receivers on certain plays. This results in drives ending when those plays are called.
So they say "they had to do this to simplify the offense for Fields." So it's His Fault that his coaches made a decision that led to disastrous drive-ending plays for _over a year?_ Again, wouldn't care if this was only opinion.
But NFL coaches & GMs are not immune to such trash talk. Matt Canada was chanted to the unemployment office. Now perhaps because of fan retribution, NFL teams think that a guy who produced more offense without on-field talent than Allen Mahomes & Burrow who has a WR _trio_ isn't worth a 4th-round pick.
Funny world, eh? I haven't yet seen a single thing Caleb has done in college that Fields hasn't done better in the NFL. No one refutes this. They just cleat out whatever meme they last heard & defend it. Caleb can do things _Goff_ can't do & Fields can do everything Caleb can.
It makes no sense.
2014 defense was definitely the best recent one
Because of Suh which put us at #3 defense I believe.
We had some guys that year. Crazy tho that our offense was the weak link considering the personnel. Just goes to show how much a great front 5 do for us.
@@ayewhaddupdoe facts that defense was really good we even had slay back then
Considering no other year we had a good defense its pretty easy to chose
@@florida1289 #2 overall defense before the refs in Dallas screwed us again
You are far better at analyzing football than most of our local guys.
Im so thankful for you coach for real. Please keep covering the lions thru this season
Imagine a top 5 offense with a top 10 defense. Gotta avoid unlucky bounces and we should have a great year in the D.
Thanks, as always, Coach.
An injury or 2 to our offensive line would derail the entire season. Right now we stand to fill-in with Sorsdal and Awosika's of the world when (not if), those injuries happen. Even the most ardent of Goff supporters (I'm one of them), admit that he's wholly dependent on the system around him for him to function optimally, and that system starts with a top 5 O-line in front of him to keep him clean. If we don't have that, he's in panic mode, and the shit show starts.
Important thing to remember is replacing DLINE Coach Scott and CB Coach Bly with DLINE Coach Williams and DB Coach Townsend.
Huge upgrades!!! No disrespect to Scott and Bly, but they were 1st year NFL position coaches. Williams and Townsend are NFL coaching vets and are highly regarded 💯
I agree, I think Williams is gonna bring the dawg out of our Dline.
Agreed!
Agree! We will have Paschal and hopefully a healthy Levi as well. Are CBs bout to lock WRs down. Season cannot come fast enough
It says Bly is the cornerbacks coach still on Wikipedia
@@marcpomaville9429 He's not, it hasn't been updated.
Reeder is the key. If he can eat up double teams on early downs, the Lions should have the DLine rotation to rush the passer on 3rd down. They have to have improved at CB with Davis, Robertson, Arnold, and Rakestraw. Emmanual is a wildcard but if he can come back after the ACL injuries he will be a big help with 5 CB in rotation. Add in Branch as a safety to cover tight ends and backs. The Lions have better defensive players this season. If they can blend into a cohesive unit, it will be a big upgrade.
DJ reader is a key but the main key is Davenport
@@applyingpressure9963no it’s reeder
@@solomo3456 no is Davenport we already know what reader can do Davenport have to play his a game if the d-line as a whole is going to be successful
@@applyingpressure9963 we got pascal comminsky to back him up but it’s definitely
lol. You people are arguing over defensive tackles READER (spell his name right) or right defensive ends.
Your left end is the only end that matters. Defensive tackle is a rotatable position and right end is an edge setter.
It’s really a dumb argument. If your team loses due to depth at either position, your team is poorly assembled.
Got me pumped for the season already w this one
Hi hope your right, they definitely upgraded the talent in the secondary and Reader was a big get on the defensive line and hopefully the changes on the other side of Hutch will stay healthy and make a difference. Houston was injured most of the year and that really hurt. If Davenport can stay healthy, he's really good but only played 4 games but have had 4 sacks but if we had this secondary we would have been in l, if not won the SB. I think if this defense can be at least near top 10, they will be a force
I absolutely love these videos
Levy was a tackling machine on that 2014 D
Another one the Lions ruined. Just one day decided he didn't want to play anymore; we absolutely killed his heart and desire to compete with how abysmally awful our front office (and coaching staff(s)), were. Barry, Megatron, Levy... the list goes on and on, but those 3 gotta be at or near the top.
2014 Lions defense was their best since the 80s. They finished 2nd in the NFL in total defense. They only gave up 17.6 points per game and lead the league in rushing defense allowing an average of 69 yards per game.
Ansah, Fairley/CJ Mosley, Suh, Jason Jones, Tulloch, Whitehead, Levy, Slay, Mathis, Ihedigbo, Quin
Lol. Why don’t we talk about the pass defense? You realize with the nfc north championship on the line that “great defense” allowed Aaron Rodgers to not miss a single pass in the middle of the field, right?
Holmes has built this team and still has 26mil in cap space this year and 90mil next year after the St Brown and Sewell signings
Also Emmanuel moseley comes back at Db
Lol. The guy played how many snaps?
He is a complete reclamation project at this point. You need to accept that.
He has played 2 downs in two and half years. And has had a torn achilles in each leg. I wouldn’t hold my breath that he provides anything. It’s sad, but true. If by some miracle he does see the field, it either means we have a catastrophic decimation of injuries at the position, or overwhelming disappointments, or (the least likely) he somehow plays like a superstar out of nowhere despite all the odds against him.
@@brandonbaty2291 I’m sorry but it’s always sorry ahh YT people talking like y’all know more about what a athlete can do more than anyone…. If y’all know so much then why aren’t their more YT athletes in football and basketball??🤨🤨🤔 oh right because y’all got that sorry loser mentality…. That’s why y’all careers never mean shii…. Black athletes understand you have to be tough and resilient we don’t accept defeat because we AREN’T cowards who’s always been able to hide behind shii. Ooops let me be quiet because I hurt feelings with the truth and now the replies gonna be “ 🤓 why you had to make it racial” because that’s literally the truth and difference between us!!!
I'm excited. The floor is better than the DBs last year
Damn Coach! Two to three levels higher? Wow! I love watching the defense and you have whet my appetite even more. Here’s to their health…
Solid stuff as always coach! Now for those of us that are older can remember three different short eras of good Lions defense. I remember the early 80's with Al 'Bubba' Baker, Doug English team, the early 90's with Chris Speilman, Bennie Blades, Robert Porcher team, more recently you have the Mid Teens team of Suh, Ensah, Farley and Slay.
Lol. Who is Ensah?
You realize the record with Suh was
2010: 6-10
2011: 10-6
2012: 4-12
2013: 7-9
Short of 14, those defenses was a massive reason they lost. They also lost in New Orleans almost exclusively due to defense in 2011
It wasn’t a good era at all.
@@thomaswatkins3686 You are getting a little too heated there man. I was referencing general time frames. As far as Ziggy, I didn't look up his last name. However, in the future I will make darn sure that I align what I think with your expectations. 🤨
I appreciate these vids. My nightmare as a Lions fan remains the game against the Ravens last season. It showed every hole and weakness we had at the time. I think the Lions have moved forward from there... but we'll see. Plus, I wanted a nose-tackle type, and DJ Reader ought to fill that. Great vids!
As a Lions fan this is by far the best analytical video about what’s actually going on in Detroit. Thanks for the videos.
Also you mentioned this secondary room, we also added Mosely on a prove it deal. He was a stud when healthy.
Lol. When? The 1 half game he played for the lions?
We are using the term stud pretty loosely these days.
@@thomaswatkins3686 on san Fran he was a lockdown.
@@thomaswatkins3686 When he was healthy in San Francisco he was pretty good!
Detroit fan here.. enjoy your film breakdowns of the LIONS 🦁
2014 was the best defense. That’s it. They ranked 2nd that year. Great vid as always man!!
They were horrible in pass defense in 14. They couldn’t cover a TE to save their lives.
Great video! Your intuitive approach to knowing the players makes up for the lack of visuals in this video. If you covered the lions on a regular basis I’d be here everyday. Your videos are top notch man, please keep it up
Great video coach!! Totally agree. If you look at last years projected 11 starters of defense, wasn’t too bad. But there were serious depth issues at corner and d-line, plus CJGJ was hurt. Very much elevated the starting talent and are way deeper in 2024. Lions vs Ravens in the SB!!
Love the hype; hopefully everything here comes true.
Coach, I would love to respond to your request for opinions on how many starters WE ;) lol, acquired- but I'm not knowledgeable enough to risk sharing my thoughts on a highly regarded n respected content guy's offering.
I look to you to quench my thirst for understanding and appreciating the significance of BH's admirable management of the draft board n team roster- as well as his steady eye on the future and the salary cap.
It’s great to hear an opinion that is well thought out and matches the feelings I have on this unit as well.
Your analysis is a breath of fresh air! I would add that Terrell Williams as the new D-line coach will be a huge factor in developing the young guys i.e. Betts, Houston, and Wingo. Good job!
Love the video. It seems you forgot about mentioning Brian Branch getting even better
I think you need to take a closer look at Rakestraw to be honest. Particularly take a look at his game against Georgia this past year. He is honestly capable if starting over Arnold year 1. Or atleast him and Arnold sharing snaps. People are overlooking Rakestraw man. I went and watched 3 games of his last season and he was incredible.
Thank you for your work coach. The analysis is as good as it gets and us Lions fans are lucky you hopped on this wagon
My favorite Lions content creator is a Raves fan. Love your stuff thanks for doing it hope you continue to. Also Ravens are my AFC team because of the Harbaugh connection.
I try to temper my expectations/excitement due to past Lions history, but your videos are getting my HYPED 👍
I love your videos, always great insight. I think this year's lions defense can be far above last year's and a dominant force.
That's tempered however by me remembering I thought the same with with Mosely and Sutton in the secondary. I'm still worried about getting pressure on the QB, and hoping Houston returns to rookie form.
Coach, just wanna say your analysis is top notch, and much appreciated 👍
A Lions-Ravens SB would be epic! Lions 27-24, REVENGE for last year!
Thoroughly enjoy the commentary. Can you make an indepth video comparing the Packers to the Lions match up wise?
Four new starters: Davis, Arnold, Reader and Davenport. I expect the ppg to be right around 20. They should be a top 15 D. It's okay to farm for comments. And I like commenting when specific relevant questions are asked to comment on. The thing that worries me the most is Readers health.
Interesting perspective
I really am curious to see how the nickel and safety snaps shake out
You sound as if mining for comments is bad… your a host of a great show that tries to get ppl involved. Don’t apologize for tryna get engagement. 😄
Brad holms might just have built a defense that makes the 80's team look silly. I know thats saying allot but he did great filling what was missing
Good afternoon all
Fantastic work as always
Great job Ted. You are the best at explaining details!
Man I love that u just keep pumping these. My dude🤜🤛
Idk maybe a vid on week 1 [potential]starting D lineup compared to NFC north
2014 Lions defense was NASTYYYY
It was historic against the run
2023 Lions were baller against the run.
1993 was pretty good and of course 2014 but at least on paper this defense looks pretty amazing. If this group stays healthy it could be spectacular especially if we have someone step up on the right side either Josh, Marcus Betts or Houston it will definitely be a Great season 🤞🙏🦁
Let’s freaking go I can’t wait for week 1
A couple of minutes late but we hear let's go
I just jump in to like the video, comment and watch when i get home appreciate your content let’s go lions 🦁
Your thoughts are right on!!!
The 2014 Detroit Lions defense for sure
You're being nice about the defense. Lions pass defense was extremely subpar and we definitely couldn't stop a mobile QBs. We were entirely saved by Hutch and Branch making clutch plays from time to time. Lamar tore us up and it didn't have much to do with Jerry Jacobs missing, to be honest. Both Jerry Jacobs and Will Harris aren't on the team anymore and that should say enough. Wish them the best but we needed to part ways.
I do hope DJ Reader is an answer. Problem is, we were great in run downs already. Our problem was 3rd and long plays where we needed to get to the QB. I believe Anzalone said in a recent interview that we were last in the league. We'll see if he is enough.
Love the videos, coach. God bless.
What gets me is James Houston put together the highest rookie sack per game in maybe NFL history as a pass-rushing DE, and he's suddenly seen as the problem?
Mathieu Betts comes over at OLB as the current CFL MVP with 18 sacks, and a great option as a pass rush specialist and this is going to be the problem on this team? Betts and Houston are excellent pass-rush specialists.
Mekhi Wingo and DJ Reader on the inside are already big upgrades, allowing you to play John Cominsky and Josh Paschal exclusively on rushing downs. At corner, Terrion Arnold and Ennis Rakestraw are not even projected to start right away, you got new starting corners in Carlton Davis and Amik Robertson to go along with Joseph and Melifonwu.
Team is starting to take shape! I'd like to see some James Houston and Brodric Martin and Mekhi Wingo just eating up defenders. Carlton and Arnold making it a no-fly zone. Much improved.
Love the Lions content!!!
Yes Coach. If our D Line can stay healthy I believe they can put pressure on the QBs. We need to stop the QBs from throwing over 300 yards.
Also Alim will be able to get to the QBs with DJR next to him.
So coach. What do you think about Rakestraw and T A together. Do they have a chance to be starter’s?
AG will have no more excuses. He’s got his players. Should be light’s out.
Lol. Typical Brent. Replies to himself telling everybody how bad the line is.
By far the worst commenter on CZcams and it’s not even close.
@@thomaswatkins3686 lol 😂 Tom. And your by far the most rude person that comments. If you don’t have nothing nice to say don’t say anything at all lol. Good to hear from you jackass
This should be a top 10 defense. Defenses are only as good as your weakest link and our CB's were not NFL caliber. This year the Lions are stacked.
I think that DE CLIFF AVRIL getting to the ball carrier first, NG SHAUN ROGERS was Excellent. LB DeANDRE LEVY & FS LOUIS DELMAS being able to run really well, and that one DT ANTONIO BENNETT that signed x15 times in x8 years. But WR JOHNNIE MORTON JR was rode outta town & WR GERMAINE CROWELL lost his sea legs. And our best player was able to walk after he died on the field in his rookie year. My favorite player by the way he played: LB REGGIE BROWN. LB CHRIS CLAIBORNE LB BOSS BAILEY LB TEDDY LEHMAN LB Colorado 2nd rounder LB ERNIE SIMS... THEY ALL PLAYED TOO MUCH AS ROOKIES AND BURNTOUT
You've mentioned our slight need for linebacker before, have you heard of Steele Chambers, the Ohio State LB we picked up in UDFA? If so what do you make of him, does he have a shot to make the roster?
I can’t be the only person who also understands the upgrades at corner is only gonna make Goff more elite 😂😂 he has to practice against them everyday
Would love to see a video of Ennis R. From what I am seeing I feel he would be a great safety. I’d love for the Lions to pick up Justin Simmons on a 1-2yr deal and have these guys learn from him and Davis this year. Keep Ennis as a back up CB and start his learning/transition to safety. Make Branch for of a CB or Slot CB. But ultimately value wise would probably be best to develop him at CB.
love your Lions content .. Suh along with Nick Fairly was supposed to be an iron wall .. guys like Robert Porcher and DeAndre Levy i believe were on that squad along with Quandre Diggs ..
Funny that the best Lions content creator is a Ravens fan. 😄
The reason I think they didn’t draft or bring in another Edge is because they believe in Paschal. He was the 46th pick who they drafted knowing he was gone come on slow because of the injury. Brad Holmes has shown he’s willing to let guys bet on themselves. This is the make or break year for Paschal not like he’ll be off the team but they’ll know if he’s a starter or just a rotational guy. DJ Reader signing here helps everyone because you can’t double as much as teams did. Teams have to double Reader then you pick your poison with Hutch or Alim. With the new dline coach Williams this line is going to get real. I think the drafting of Wingo is for Levi O and to see with a healthy camp what he’s gone do.
Coach, I agree with being able to shave 3 points a game. That’s enough for a 1 seed without regression on offense. I agree with everyone else, 2014 was great, the rest suck. They had some players in the early 90’s (Crockett, Blades, Spielman, Porcher,Ball) but never a great D.
What do you think about using Wingo as a pass rushing DT? He looked good at LSU and he’s quick off the ball?
Problem I have is all the "smartest man in the room" moves; signing Davenport, Betts, drafting the 2 project kids using high picks and giving up future high picks to boot... and the constant "we like our guys" drumbeat that BH plays to, is just ridiculous. It's like you've got the keys to the car, the engine and the frame, just need to get the wheels on the road and you'll cross the finish line first, but he insists on trying to get to that finish line with 2 or 3 wheels only instead of all 4, all because of the chip-on-the-shoulder mentality of "I'll show you!" and "I have receipts!" It's bonkers.
Interesting. I had not thought of it that way, perhaps because the different approaches of the two front offices I try to pay attention to. The Ravens and the Lions. In the Ravens case, they generally just sit and take BPA, with very little effort to ever trade up. Whereas the Lions seem to be trading up for specific players at least in 2024. The difference in approach is striking. I know your comments enough to recognize that they have validity. So it's interesting to me to hear the different opinion on what the Lions did in this Draft. Certainly a stark comparison to the Ravens.
@@all_22_films I know it's super pessimistic and callous of a "regular dude" to call out these moves, but I respect the HELL out of what Holmes and Co. have done, especially with the draft, but it's infuriating to see all the fluff, like the moves/draft picks mentioned above, on top of the Hooker and Martin picks last year. These are 3rd round picks, they could've been/should've been used on players to help this team win last year and now, not "projects" (as Holmes himself admits they are), that even if ALL the stars align and the BEST case scenario comes to fruition, these guys are borderline NFL starters or backups, 2... 3, 4 years from now. It's asinine.
I should add; I hope to hell I'm 100% wrong and off-base with my perception of these moves I took issue with and they still run it back to the playoffs again and finish the job this year, but holy crap did a lot of teams get a whole lot better (at least on paper), after the draft and FA this offseason, particularly in the NFC. It ain't gonna be easy.
Ive wanted BAL vs DET for a while now. In The Game. Me want.
2014 defense was like the 2nd or 3rd best rushing defense in NFL history
Also the reason the lioms didnt get a wr 3 is because at any point
Laporta or gibbs could line up as wr3 with raymond and dpj solid 4s
The defense seems like it has a very narrow chance to be very good. But other than Hutch, the playmakers needed to elevate the defense all have a concerning injury history. Some or many of these guys are going to miss multiple games. Davis III has never played a whole season and missed 5 games last year. Reader has only played one full season. Davenport also never played a whole season and made it to 4 last year. Houston, major injury last year and might never be the same. Same goes for Mosley. Iffy’s longest stretch is 5 games. Heck even Alim missed 4 games last year.
I know dudes get injured. But the lack of depth at positions with injury prone starters is probably why being an average defense would be a realistic goal for 2024.
2014 - 2016 was great defense
how do the lions fix their defense against running qbs? fields, geno smith, lamar, etc. what is going wrong so consistently?
Typically with a spy and with corners who have quick reaction times, closing speed and strong in run support. Like the dudes they drafted.
it would be interesting if the lions shift from becoming an offensive force to a defensive force.
Dont be surprised to see a limited role by arnold in 2024 hes really young he's definitely not going to play outside maybe later in the year but in 2025 and beyomd Arnold will be the guy
2014 was a top 3 D
Just an FYI, they signed UDFA DE Isaac Ukwu from Ole Miss.
I'd also bet he helps them forcing teams to double team him and/or McNeil. Could open up Hutch and Co. to receive more one on one matchups.
Super Bowl or bust this year. I don't see why that's not doable. Last year in October I bet them to win the SB and it should have happened.
2014 for sure Todd
If they are even a top 12 defense and not give up 300000 passing yards a game we will win super bowl. Our dline got better and our cb room has crazy depth. Shit even last year if the offense would just score in the 3rd qtr we would be undefeated…. Besides the ravens game lol.
You can thrash Will Harris if you want. As a Lions fan, he was nothing but a cancer on that defense. He had maybe 1 good play last year. We don't know how he still had a job. Or how he got signed to the Saints.
Saying he was a cancer on the defense is definitely going too far. That term is reserved for dudes who disrupt the locker room, not for dudes who come up short of NFL quality. Give the dude a break.
Are all those 4 DBs better than Cam Sutton? Yes...yes they are.
Robertson and Sutton are close
So save to say you like the Lions offseason? 😉
2014
2014, 1991
Yes
Hutchinson also 2nd overall in pressures in the NFL over those 2 seasons
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Whoever referred to Aidan "Clutch Hutch" Hutchinson as a disappointment should not be allowed to talk about football ever again. I can't see even the most ridiculous "Bench Goff for Hooker" Lions fans saying Hutch has been a disappointment. Dude had 11.5 sacks, and over 100 QB pressures, second only to Micah Parsons last year, if memory serves. I can only hope that Terrion Arnold and Ennis Rakestraw, and the rest of this draft class, show similar levels of disappointment.
Player to watch is DT Levi Onwuzurike, this will be his first offseason training, working on his skills, and getting stronger instead of rehabbing from back surgery
It looks good on paper but by mid season tons of injury will come and will be middle of the pack should of drafted another pass rusher like Jonah Ellis
Alt account for Tommie Watts? Troll? Hater? Pessimist? 🤡?
All of the above???
So many possibilities 😂
@@LionsOnTheHunt313 don't like facts
@@Jamar-lg9ob I like facts lol. I don't like when people state their opinions as facts. You do this often in the comments.
Yet another excellent analysis. Thank you.
2014 obviously. Also give Jim Schwartz, along with Martin Mayhew a ton of credit for establishing the foundation in 2013.
Caldwell came in under Mayhew the very next year and added and modified it. Cleaned up the disciplinary issues and turned it into a monster.