cant wait to see this run - wait till you see how loose the timing chain is. I think were gonna get it, its put up quite the fight but I think we'll prevail :) give Joe (other chap in video) a hello, he's shy and well definitely break him of that. He's also the co-owner with me of the Carb Cheater which wouldn't have happened without him.
Just a heads up. If it still won’t start with compression, check your spark while cranking until you have oil pressure. If the bottom bushing in the distributor is worn the shaft will angle just a bit when oil pressure starts to build. That stops the points from closing and you lose spark. I’d be ashamed to tell you how long it took me to figure that one out. It had good spark when I’d check under the hood but i wasn’t cranking it long enough. It would ALMOST start. The temporary fix is to close the gap on the points. It worked until I could get a new distributor.
Slant sixes were used in many industrial applications. Ive seen them on fork lifts, coal mine conveyor belts, airplane tugs, generators, water treatment waste pumps, and many other things im sure. They were built to take the abuse. You cant kill an industrial spec slant six.
I recently had a couple or trees taken down by a guy who was starting a second career in landscaping after retiring from the power company. He wasn't able to grind out the stumps because he hadn't acquired a stump grinder yet. In his words, "Did you know those things cost $30k?!" Good on you boys for getting this one going again.
The variety is what keeps bringing me back. Getting tired of all these will it start videos on some nonsense equipment that won't ever see another video. Luke is pretty good about changing things up
I have a late slant-6 in my '83 Dodge D150, A-833 3 speed OD manual, manual steering, zero option truck. Fun to drive, the later ones don't have those spark plug tubes. That carb looks like some beefy industrial unit, since this likely is an "Industrial" slant 6, they found their way into boats, generators, farm equipment, and all kinds of nonsense. No idea if that carb belongs to these engines but a Slant 6 don't care what carb feeds it.
In the mid 90's I owned a 74 Plymouth Valiant that had 225 slant six in it. Even at well over 20 years old the engine sounded like a sewing machine while at idle and even after the rest of the car rusted and the rear diff took a dump that engine was still able to purr. I still miss that car and if at the time I would have had any place to store it I would have kept it!
STREWTH She's a rugged unit Unca Luke, I reckon a lick of wallaby spit and some #8 fencing wire and she'll run like a beut :-) The old Slantys are just about indestructible, Aussies never got the 170 or 190 slantys but the 225 Cube unit we had in Valiants until 1971 and Dodge (D5N) trucks for Yonks after that and you used to see stationary versions (Different Cam) on Agi's (Cement Mixers) as well. Dont love it too much, Treat em mean and keep em Keen mate, Loving this Episode!
The bellhousing is from the '68 and older truck hydraulic clutch. The larger bolt patern is for the 318, but the \6 has a different offset bolt on the crank; they are not interchangeable. The sixties \6 were built to medium-duty truck specs, regardless of vehicle; hence, the reputation. The low compression is most likely due to the pistons having iron ring grooves. The rings have rusted to the iron grooves, which may or may not be a problem
@@KLX1990 It could even be a thoroughly obstructed intake manifold just not allowing much air through. I had a low-compression cylinder after a rebuild and the problem turned out to be a defective intake gasket getting sucked into the runner and blocking the flow of air.
The large bell housing is to allow a 11" clutch on the six pattern. From what I recall, the BH to engine bolts are accessed from the inside of the BH once the clutch cover is removed through the open bottom of the BH.
Eyy uncle Luke! Your videos with Kevin from JYD a while back inspired me to pick up my tool box and revive a few old cars myself. I cant wait to see what's under that timing cover.
On the early slant heads with the ''drool tubes'', you need to remove the spark plug washers for proper plug engagement. If you ever need to replace the starter, a newer mini-style from a Dodge Dakota will bolt up. And, no, that carb setup isn't stock. Normally it's a single barrel downdraft carb like a Holley 1920 or a Carter. Oh yeah, on those early heads use the ''wrong'' spark plugs for a Dodge Viper. They are an extremely long reach plug, so you'll pick up a little bit of compression and a more centrally located, unshrouded flame kernel.
the nice thing about all pushrod engines is that they are largely functionally the same. if you know one, and have a good understanding of engine dynamics, you can effectively work on any of them.
This is right up my alley. Been doing treework for +10 years. My miniskid has a fax number on the side but still puts in work. Be prepared to replace all the bearings 😂 stump grinders like to chew those up
@@ThunderHead289 The Slant six was a do it all engine. Designed to run in the new compacts, it was adapted, and flourished at everything else. The 300 while a good engine, was never in compact cars. A fair comparison would be the Falcon six, which the slant is far superior.
MOPAR is sorta my thing. So, if it's an industrial engine it will not have a timing chain. It will have gears. They are thick, heavy gears that usually stay with the engine through it's whole life. The gears seldom wear out. If it has a chain in it and sprokets, it's either a car or light duty truck engine.
Nice to have "Uncle Luke" back for more video content!!! Who is assisting you on this "project" debacle? Be nice to have another known "Utuber" that we can subscribe to for assistance... At least you are of the "latter half of the generation" that understands what FUBAR was intended to mean.
My grandpa's orchard forklift was built with a dodge 6cyl and 3 spd manual. Not sure what year but the trans has the band-style E-Brake so theres that. It still runs too! I got it running for the first time in like 10-15yrs. Got it running just in time to unload a tool cart I had delivered. What a great feeling it is to get old equipment running after ages of sitting. Things were built to last back in the day.
That's a neat old machine :) I can't wait to see it running! BTW, I couldn't help but notice the back half of a semi in that scrap pile when you were moving the bird nest. You guys should think of a project to use that for ;)
a business card to set points? what kind of malarkey are you trying to pull off here? Everyone and I mean everyone knows ya have to use a matchbook cover.
I heard that relocating nests doesn't work because birds remember their exact surroundings, which I think is why some people wait til the nest is empty.
@@ThunderHead289 yeah that's life. Humans have done much worse lol. I did a similar thing a few years ago trimming the giant hedges beside my house. I felt so bad. On the subject of slant sixes, back in the late 90s I think, I tried helping a coworker who had a 64 or 65 Dodge car (forget what model) that wouldn't start. Turned out the distributor gear was eaten up by the cam gear. I assume the distributor shaft seized 😂
I think it’s a Vermeer stump grinder model 10. Came with a Wisconsin motor the frame and controls are definitely a Vermeer. Good luck getting it going they will sure eat up a stump.
The slant 6 was also noted for cylinder wash out repeated attempts of starting washes out the cylinders and compression drops to nearly nothing. And if I recall they used timing gears on the older slant sixes
@ThunderHead289. Hello so how did it go y'all get that old slant 6 to where you can make her purr? You may need to check the block numbers against mopars or dodge engine lists I know there's a day code and a build date in that info I believe it's a 60-69 issue if not earlier due to the wide spread use of them in industrial settings. Let me know what you glean from the info if anything
"Drool Tube" head, I can't remember which is the later and better head anymore. I think the Peanut head is the better one, got rid of some ping spots. I've heard Slant6's like boost, that could be a turbo stump grinder.
doing something werid and stupid possibly? ... that is EXACTLY why i am subbed to channels like this :) ... one of those "this may make no sense" type things ... but as long as its cool ... that is all that matters
I was sold on starting the video. Brand new viewer who has never even seen your vids in 'suggested.' Thanks for gettin' to the wrenching, there has to be a happy balance between welcoming *old viewers* and giving *new viewers* a quick start to the action. Too many YTbers are chummy and mention every pal and work bud like we know them on the regular. Nope. I'm here to learn in a fun way and clear...so thanks for kicking off the action!
If that's an industrial Slant 6 it won't have a nylon timing gear. Not sure if that's an old combine engine, off an old cement truck or just one out of an old hydraulic clutch truck someone rigged up with a belt drive. (clutch fork went in on the passenger side on those) Compression could be that low from crap in the valves or stuck rings. Some good ether "tire mounting fluid" might just get it to fire up enough to break the crud loose. If it has a governor probably belt driven that's a good sign it's an industrial engine maybe off a swather. They put those things on a lot of stuff. If it has a governor you might have to pull it apart and free it up to get it working. They stick inside. Oh yeah the timing chain and gears are interchangeable with the big block Chryslers, in case you got one of those laying around.
Chrysler use to make a tornado storm air horn power by a 331 C.I Gen 1 Hemi back in the 50s and the Slant 6's were around since 1959-1986 or 87 the 170ci low deck the 198ci standard deck and 225ci raise deck and last Super 225ci they were use in all cars, taxi's, police, vans, trucks, buses, commercials machines, military, boats, and others.
I had a slant 6 in my 1969 Dodge Dart, that thing was bullet proof. I ran it out of oil, simply filled it back up and drove it. It did screw the valve guide seals, it smoked like crazy of course. I replaced them and drove hat car at least another year. You would think the main and rod bearings would have gone out from not oil, but the engine ran like a top. I know for a fact it was out oil, about two table spoons came out when the drain plug was removed. It had a two barrel Carter carb but that thing would haul, and the baby 904 trans, I beat the living crap out of that thing, manually shifting an automatic trans to get max RPM's, it NEVER failed. They certainly do not make engines like that anymore. I turned around and sold the car for 750.00 to an old farmer guy who drove it about two more years before he gave it to his grand son who finally wrecked it. As far as compression, you look for the consistency between the cylinders more so than a high number. If all read within 10% of each other, your usually good, unless it is super low like you are describing. I have seen engines run with 30PSI compression, a ton of blow by, look like a locomotive smoking out the oil fill cap when you took it off while running, spark plugs black as a sharpie, and killed mosquitos for miles around, but it ran. Its nickname could not have been better "leaning tower of power" with all its 126 hp.
I want to see that run again. My first car was a /6 and I had several over the years and did everything on them. Got them running like sewing machines. Very reliable as long as you gave it half decent ignition maintenance.
My ex brother in law bought this truck that belonged to just about every mechanic and fabricator in the almost nonexistent town of Roxbury Kansas. It was mid 70s 1/2 ton power wagon with a short bed slant 6 and a 4 speed. It had a flat bed with a set of I think 8' ginpoles. The winch was a home made job. Made from a 4speed truck transmission hooked to a spool on one end and a hand crank made out of an old clutch center or two with probably a foot of leverage. He took the positrac differentials out of a couple of Government soil conservation trucks he bought at auction. And installed them front and rear. They might have been 3.55;1 but I think they were 4.10;1 geared. That sonofabitch would go anywhere but it was gutless. Nevertheless a legend it was a legend.
@@Boga217 what you fail to understand is the wide range of the power band of the Slant Six. You would get that hight torque at low RPMs, allowing you to lug the engine right out of that low RPM condition and get into the mid range power band, but since it was built with low mass, valve train, it had a surprising top end without valve float since it had mechanical adjusted valve lash. Hydraulic Valve Lifters add mass abc lower the top end of tts RPM range, where the valve stays open, defeating the attempt of the piston to draw in and then compress the fuel air charge with both intake and exhaust valves closed. Valve Float will either cause backfiring through the intake manifold, or the exhaust manifold, resulting in some of the fuel /air being burned before entering other cylinders, the loss of torque on the cylinder that the valves never full closed, and erosion wear by the burning exhaust on the valves seats to the point that the valves never seal at any RPM.
@@Boga217 none of which existed in 1959 when Chrysler Corporation released this revolutionary overhead valve engine at a.time when the Ford flathead V8 had been king for decades…
@@DishNetworkDealerNEO that peak torque was close to 3800 rpm, mercury ford flathead were capable of 200lb ft of torque at one point at 2k rpm. So again no loads of torque at low rpm its after its revved to the moon, the flathead was lower rpm than the slant six even. So yeah a minivan wasn't around or a Honda, my point is you're wrong on loads of torque, wrong on loads of torque right off down low, it comes on later after spinning up.
@@DishNetworkDealerNEO the loads of torque is actually gear ratio. Lots of those old trucks etc. Had really deep gear rear end that made em pull like 500lb ft of torque.
It's a slant 6. If you can't get one of those running, then it's either FUBAR or you don't know what you're doing. Those damn things were indestructable. Not real good for making power, but they'll keep your car on the road for 30 years without too much trouble.
Hey Luke... glad to see you are now close to Junkyard Digs and Mook.... it will be interesting to see if you can get this stump grinder to work again....
That has to be an industrial engine. The carb & starter are not something that was used in cars & trucks. The slant 6 was a long stroke engine, low rpm, hi torque. They used the same main bearings as a 440 V-8. Really tough engines.
@@ThunderHead289 I'm a MoPar nut & this is interesting. That bellhousing looks like it came off of a large truck (3/4 to or better) because of the bulk, motor mounts & location of the clutch fork opening. Probably had a hyd clutch at one time. Looks like they used a transmission input shaft, put a keyed shaft on the end of it for the drive pulley and supported the end with a pillow block bearing. They had to have some way of disengaging the engine from the drive pulley so the easiest way would be to use a clutch. They likely had a handle could be locked in the disengage position. Don't look like there is enough room for any sort of in/ out box inside the bell housing. From the late 60s through the early 90s Chrysler would drill their bell housings to accept various different transmissions, 3 speed, 4 speed OD units & 4 speed granny gear would all fit the same bell housing. A bit of trivia on the slant 6: The engine started out as a 170 ci aluminum engine but the times were not quite right for an all aluminum engine, they had numerous problems. So they decided to build an iron version instead but rather than creating new casting molds for the cast iron blocks they simply used the aluminum ones. End result: a heavy wall, very stiff, very tough little engine. Not much for power but would they ever take the abuse. I've heard of engine builders taking .100" off the cylinder head to increase compression. Good luck on the project and don't get hurt. I'm going to follow, got to see if it works.
I don't understand the hate for the Chrysler starter. One starter fits 99% of chrysler cars and they just work. A superior design than Ford or Chevy at the time.
@@basedWisco715 So you would rather have a starter that doesnt work over one that has a diferent sound? Enjoy changing, shimming, dealing with heat soak on your inferior starteters. I'll stick with something that works, either the classic Chrysler starter or a newer one from a Dakota. Both gear reduction.
So you already seen the timing chain ? Cause my guess was gonna be , that there isnt any gear teeth left on it , just enough stubs to make it go around ...
Hmm, an engine rescue/resto vid? Heck yeah! Also, that flat farmland in the background. I was out in Greenup, Illinois a week ago picking up a 1955 GE air conditioner. Different strokes 'n'at. Very flat land everywhere I looked. I live less than 2 hours from the Appalachian mountains so "flat" has a completely different meaning here lol.
Oh love your channel i think you are a very smart young man and continue doing what you are doing with engines 45 years working on engines all kinds of engines it makes me happy to watch your channel whth your type of entertainment in the mechanical world 🇺🇲🔧💪👍 God Bless and keep the good work up🤯🔧🇺🇲 Oh ps. I am from Philadelphia Pa.
We had Buick 430's still running with cylinders at 75 psi... Dump some oil in the cylinders to seal up the rings and valves hose it with ether.. It'll kick off.. My Uncle John Duggan ran one of those grinders for years and kept repowering it with Vega and Rabbit 4 cylinders... That machine is a beast. I used to love how it leans jumps and lurches when its grinding...
I've always had a respect for the slant six maybe because of all the stupid things people say about it. In the 80's you could find a nice valient or scamp with one and drive it reliably for years for $400 - $500
If that was a Ford 300 you'd be grinding stumps before the video was over. Every slant 6 I've dealt with either spun rod bearings or threw rods out the side of the block.
My 1972 high school car was a 1962 225 slant six with 3 on the tree and 225,000 miles when purchased for $300. Drove that Valiant for 50,000 more miles with only oil, points, plugs, brakes, tires and a timing chain + timing cover to stop the oil leak from a small hole in the timing cover. The timing chain rubbed a hole in the cover. When I sold the Valiant to buy my first new car in 1976 the old slant six was running strong at 275,000 miles.A few years later I saw the old Valiant still on the road.
So chysler made an industrial version of just about every motor they made. Irrigation motors, fork lifts, dump trucks.. The entire spectrum.. From what I've seen they used different carbs, cams and heads to govern for different applications. The slant very well could be the original for that piece of equipment. Hagie farm equipment was notorious for chysler engines.
Excellent video Thunderhead Luke :) yes slant 6 on 170 or 225 are interesting motors for sure and work lots them over years also! One stump me was a 1976 Plymouth Volarie 2 door with 225 Slant 6 and Automatic transmission my oldest brother David had in 1990 to 1993 for Winters Season months beater car ! Found was Distributor need change plus whole motor and then won't stayed start up was a brand new Faulty Baylis and Alternator Regulartor box for Recharge battery! After dug deeper it too also!
I pulled an 87 out of a junkyard d150 and put it in a 47 1 ton panel truck, driven it couple hundred miles, blows a little black smoke and doesnt like giving power going up hills and getting above 60 miles an hour, time to rebuild?
cant wait to see this run - wait till you see how loose the timing chain is. I think were gonna get it, its put up quite the fight but I think we'll prevail :) give Joe (other chap in video) a hello, he's shy and well definitely break him of that. He's also the co-owner with me of the Carb Cheater which wouldn't have happened without him.
good luck with it friend
Now you have to sell it to Kevin it would fit in with the word cars that he have sitting
Thanks for the video Luke always enjoy watching them.
Can’t wait ! Don’t leave us hanging… lol
Just a heads up. If it still won’t start with compression, check your spark while cranking until you have oil pressure.
If the bottom bushing in the distributor is worn the shaft will angle just a bit when oil pressure starts to build.
That stops the points from closing and you lose spark.
I’d be ashamed to tell you how long it took me to figure that one out.
It had good spark when I’d check under the hood but i wasn’t cranking it long enough.
It would ALMOST start.
The temporary fix is to close the gap on the points. It worked until I could get a new distributor.
Slant sixes were used in many industrial applications. Ive seen them on fork lifts, coal mine conveyor belts, airplane tugs, generators, water treatment waste pumps, and many other things im sure. They were built to take the abuse. You cant kill an industrial spec slant six.
So were Detroit's and Stovebolts's and Ford's.. Just about everyone had an industrial version of their tractor engines, and lots of them lol.
Take some compression out of them and run cheaaap fuel
Slant six videos always brings out the mopar haters. If you criticize a slant, you're searching for anything you can find to justify your hate.
@@michaelatkins9780 Well you're right. Mopar is the low hanging fruit on the boat anchor tree so.. What do you expect 😘
We have one in a combine on the farm
I recently had a couple or trees taken down by a guy who was starting a second career in landscaping after retiring from the power company. He wasn't able to grind out the stumps because he hadn't acquired a stump grinder yet. In his words, "Did you know those things cost $30k?!" Good on you boys for getting this one going again.
Buying a new one that’s a beast sets you back $100k
Burn it out for free or get at it with an axe
I sold an rg85 rayco that was beat for $35k last summer
Marvel mystery oil in fuel and oil .... delo 30 wix filter good to go 😊
Never get tired of Luke's content. He just mixes it up and has love for old iron. Killer video. Thanks Luke.
The variety is what keeps bringing me back. Getting tired of all these will it start videos on some nonsense equipment that won't ever see another video. Luke is pretty good about changing things up
His personality and content are what keep me coming back over and over.
I have a late slant-6 in my '83 Dodge D150, A-833 3 speed OD manual, manual steering, zero option truck. Fun to drive, the later ones don't have those spark plug tubes. That carb looks like some beefy industrial unit, since this likely is an "Industrial" slant 6, they found their way into boats, generators, farm equipment, and all kinds of nonsense. No idea if that carb belongs to these engines but a Slant 6 don't care what carb feeds it.
In the mid 90's I owned a 74 Plymouth Valiant that had 225 slant six in it. Even at well over 20 years old the engine sounded like a sewing machine while at idle and even after the rest of the car rusted and the rear diff took a dump that engine was still able to purr. I still miss that car and if at the time I would have had any place to store it I would have kept it!
I had a 225 slant six and it was bulletproof and it produced 250 horsepower. I built it up
STREWTH She's a rugged unit Unca Luke, I reckon a lick of wallaby spit and some #8 fencing wire and she'll run like a beut :-)
The old Slantys are just about indestructible, Aussies never got the 170 or 190 slantys but the 225 Cube unit we had in Valiants until 1971 and Dodge (D5N) trucks for Yonks after that and you used to see stationary versions (Different Cam) on Agi's (Cement Mixers) as well.
Dont love it too much, Treat em mean and keep em Keen mate, Loving this Episode!
The bellhousing is from the '68 and older truck hydraulic clutch. The larger bolt patern is for the 318, but the \6 has a different offset bolt on the crank; they are not interchangeable. The sixties \6 were built to medium-duty truck specs, regardless of vehicle; hence, the reputation. The low compression is most likely due to the pistons having iron ring grooves. The rings have rusted to the iron grooves, which may or may not be a problem
Theres no way they would all rust identically and have the same compression. It's definitely the timing chain jumping a few teeth
@@KLX1990 It could even be a thoroughly obstructed intake manifold just not allowing much air through. I had a low-compression cylinder after a rebuild and the problem turned out to be a defective intake gasket getting sucked into the runner and blocking the flow of air.
The large bell housing is to allow a 11" clutch on the six pattern. From what I recall, the BH to engine bolts are accessed from the inside of the BH once the clutch cover is removed through the open bottom of the BH.
@@KLX1990 Could they have advanced the timing by rotating the distributor just to see if it helped?
Am so glad your still getting better. Great job, can't wait to see that poor old timing chain.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Eyy uncle Luke! Your videos with Kevin from JYD a while back inspired me to pick up my tool box and revive a few old cars myself. I cant wait to see what's under that timing cover.
Luke and Kevin aka motivate people to get their junk running
On the early slant heads with the ''drool tubes'', you need to remove the spark plug washers for proper plug engagement.
If you ever need to replace the starter, a newer mini-style from a Dodge Dakota will bolt up.
And, no, that carb setup isn't stock. Normally it's a single barrel downdraft carb like a Holley 1920 or a Carter.
Oh yeah, on those early heads use the ''wrong'' spark plugs for a Dodge Viper. They are an extremely long reach plug, so you'll pick up a little bit of compression and a more centrally located, unshrouded flame kernel.
Farm engineering at its finest! Put a clutch in it though.
Dang that thing looks to have a tab sized for a lawnmower ;) Uncle Tony and Dylan are standing by, glad you’re not “ls’ing” it !
the nice thing about all pushrod engines is that they are largely functionally the same. if you know one, and have a good understanding of engine dynamics, you can effectively work on any of them.
Happy Memorial Day 🇺🇸 Let’s not forget the ones that sacrificed for our freedom 🦅. Thank you luke.
This is right up my alley. Been doing treework for +10 years. My miniskid has a fax number on the side but still puts in work. Be prepared to replace all the bearings 😂 stump grinders like to chew those up
If the grinder doesn't work, there's always tannerite.
You should give Chrysler a second look. The slant six is a beast!
laughs in 300 inline 6 ford. although I do very much appreciate the solid lifters though. all engines should have solid lifters in my book.
@@ThunderHead289 as a 300 i6 connoisseur, this made my day.
@@ThunderHead289 yep. gear drive ftw :)
Bit one sided I do say .
@@ThunderHead289 The Slant six was a do it all engine. Designed to run in the new compacts, it was adapted, and flourished at everything else. The 300 while a good engine, was never in compact cars. A fair comparison would be the Falcon six, which the slant is far superior.
MOPAR is sorta my thing. So, if it's an industrial engine it will not have a timing chain. It will have gears. They are thick, heavy gears that usually stay with the engine through it's whole life. The gears seldom wear out. If it has a chain in it and sprokets, it's either a car or light duty truck engine.
Can confirm it's a chain, so from a car like it seems like woth some odd industrial item grafting
Great engines. Have one on a genset that is well over 20,000 hours. Biggest issue we've had is the nylon gear on the bottom of the distributor
Nice to have "Uncle Luke" back for more video content!!!
Who is assisting you on this "project" debacle?
Be nice to have another known "Utuber" that we can subscribe to for assistance...
At least you are of the "latter half of the generation" that understands what FUBAR was intended to mean.
He's my Carb Cheater business partner and also my boss at our day job lol
Poor guy - his names Joe
See if the numbers match. Increases value lol
Great job Luke and Joe. Somehow you guys make even the least promising porjects interesting! Can't wait to see the next one!
My grandpa's orchard forklift was built with a dodge 6cyl and 3 spd manual. Not sure what year but the trans has the band-style E-Brake so theres that. It still runs too! I got it running for the first time in like 10-15yrs. Got it running just in time to unload a tool cart I had delivered. What a great feeling it is to get old equipment running after ages of sitting. Things were built to last back in the day.
That Slant Six is from the 1960’s, in the 1970’s, the paint was Blue.
That's a neat old machine :) I can't wait to see it running! BTW, I couldn't help but notice the back half of a semi in that scrap pile when you were moving the bird nest. You guys should think of a project to use that for ;)
You had me at, “weird and stupid.” 😂
That's what my wife said when she met me
Not the factory carb from Chrysler. The real carburetor was a Holley 1920 model typically.
Ah, old homemade farm equipment! You are a brave man.
a business card to set points? what kind of malarkey are you trying to pull off here? Everyone and I mean everyone knows ya have to use a matchbook cover.
I heard that relocating nests doesn't work because birds remember their exact surroundings, which I think is why some people wait til the nest is empty.
Once I pulled the tarp up and discovered it, it was probably already game over - did what I could
@@ThunderHead289 yeah that's life. Humans have done much worse lol. I did a similar thing a few years ago trimming the giant hedges beside my house. I felt so bad.
On the subject of slant sixes, back in the late 90s I think, I tried helping a coworker who had a 64 or 65 Dodge car (forget what model) that wouldn't start. Turned out the distributor gear was eaten up by the cam gear. I assume the distributor shaft seized 😂
I think it’s a Vermeer stump grinder model 10. Came with a Wisconsin motor the frame and controls are definitely a Vermeer. Good luck getting it going they will sure eat up a stump.
I can't wait to see it grind - way overpowered
The slant 6 was also noted for cylinder wash out repeated attempts of starting washes out the cylinders and compression drops to nearly nothing. And if I recall they used timing gears on the older slant sixes
@ThunderHead289. Hello so how did it go y'all get that old slant 6 to where you can make her purr? You may need to check the block numbers against mopars or dodge engine lists I know there's a day code and a build date in that info I believe it's a 60-69 issue if not earlier due to the wide spread use of them in industrial settings. Let me know what you glean from the info if anything
"Drool Tube" head, I can't remember which is the later and better head anymore. I think the Peanut head is the better one, got rid of some ping spots. I've heard Slant6's like boost, that could be a turbo stump grinder.
doing something werid and stupid possibly? ... that is EXACTLY why i am subbed to channels like this :) ... one of those "this may make no sense" type things ... but as long as its cool ... that is all that matters
I was sold on starting the video. Brand new viewer who has never even seen your vids in 'suggested.' Thanks for gettin' to the wrenching, there has to be a happy balance between welcoming *old viewers* and giving *new viewers* a quick start to the action. Too many YTbers are chummy and mention every pal and work bud like we know them on the regular. Nope. I'm here to learn in a fun way and clear...so thanks for kicking off the action!
sqirt oil in the cylinder if compression goes up it is the rings if not then it is the valves.
Thank you for the knowledge and entertainment ! Cheers!
If that's an industrial Slant 6 it won't have a nylon timing gear. Not sure if that's an old combine engine, off an old cement truck or just one out of an old hydraulic clutch truck someone rigged up with a belt drive. (clutch fork went in on the passenger side on those)
Compression could be that low from crap in the valves or stuck rings. Some good ether "tire mounting fluid" might just get it to fire up enough to break the crud loose.
If it has a governor probably belt driven that's a good sign it's an industrial engine maybe off a swather. They put those things on a lot of stuff.
If it has a governor you might have to pull it apart and free it up to get it working. They stick inside.
Oh yeah the timing chain and gears are interchangeable with the big block Chryslers, in case you got one of those laying around.
Camarata was looking for a stump grinder last week. Get it going and sell it to him.
Your first mistake was approaching this Chrysler without Dylan McCool! LOL! He would have helped with your anxiety levels LOL!
When we roll up on a slant 6, he usually validates my anxiety with them 😄
Definitely worth the time and effort to get that rig running again.
Your videos are the best my friend. Hope to see more very soon!
Chrysler use to make a tornado storm air horn power by a 331 C.I Gen 1 Hemi back in the 50s and the Slant 6's were around since 1959-1986 or 87 the 170ci low deck the 198ci standard deck and 225ci raise deck and last Super 225ci they were use in all cars, taxi's, police, vans, trucks, buses, commercials machines, military, boats, and others.
I had a slant 6 in my 1969 Dodge Dart, that thing was bullet proof. I ran it out of oil, simply filled it back up and drove it. It did screw the valve guide seals, it smoked like crazy of course. I replaced them and drove hat car at least another year. You would think the main and rod bearings would have gone out from not oil, but the engine ran like a top. I know for a fact it was out oil, about two table spoons came out when the drain plug was removed. It had a two barrel Carter carb but that thing would haul, and the baby 904 trans, I beat the living crap out of that thing, manually shifting an automatic trans to get max RPM's, it NEVER failed. They certainly do not make engines like that anymore. I turned around and sold the car for 750.00 to an old farmer guy who drove it about two more years before he gave it to his grand son who finally wrecked it. As far as compression, you look for the consistency between the cylinders more so than a high number. If all read within 10% of each other, your usually good, unless it is super low like you are describing. I have seen engines run with 30PSI compression, a ton of blow by, look like a locomotive smoking out the oil fill cap when you took it off while running, spark plugs black as a sharpie, and killed mosquitos for miles around, but it ran. Its nickname could not have been better "leaning tower of power" with all its 126 hp.
I want to see that run again. My first car was a /6 and I had several over the years and did everything on them. Got them running like sewing machines. Very reliable as long as you gave it half decent ignition maintenance.
Nice to see you back
My ex brother in law bought this truck that belonged to just about every mechanic and fabricator in the almost nonexistent town of Roxbury Kansas. It was mid 70s 1/2 ton power wagon with a short bed slant 6 and a 4 speed. It had a flat bed with a set of I think 8' ginpoles. The winch was a home made job. Made from a 4speed truck transmission hooked to a spool on one end and a hand crank made out of an old clutch center or two with probably a foot of leverage. He took the positrac differentials out of a couple of Government soil conservation trucks he bought at auction. And installed them front and rear. They might have been 3.55;1 but I think they were 4.10;1 geared. That sonofabitch would go anywhere but it was gutless. Nevertheless a legend it was a legend.
Weird and stupid is always a good thing 😊😊😊
+1 for slant six. Make it live again.
Someone made a great choice for a replacement engine! You can’t kill the slant sIx! They have loads of torque!
They had way less than loads of torque. 220lb of torque. That's only 2 90s Honda civics or a 2008 minivan.
@@Boga217 what you fail to understand is the wide range of the power band of the Slant Six. You would get that hight torque at low RPMs, allowing you to lug the engine right out of that low RPM condition and get into the mid range power band, but since it was built with low mass, valve train, it had a surprising top end without valve float since it had mechanical adjusted valve lash. Hydraulic Valve Lifters add mass abc lower the top end of tts RPM range, where the valve stays open, defeating the attempt of the piston to draw in and then compress the fuel air charge with both intake and exhaust valves closed. Valve Float will either cause backfiring through the intake manifold, or the exhaust manifold, resulting in some of the fuel /air being burned before entering other cylinders, the loss of torque on the cylinder that the valves never full closed, and erosion wear by the burning exhaust on the valves seats to the point that the valves never seal at any RPM.
@@Boga217 none of which existed in 1959 when Chrysler Corporation released this revolutionary overhead valve engine at a.time when the Ford flathead V8 had been king for decades…
@@DishNetworkDealerNEO that peak torque was close to 3800 rpm, mercury ford flathead were capable of 200lb ft of torque at one point at 2k rpm. So again no loads of torque at low rpm its after its revved to the moon, the flathead was lower rpm than the slant six even. So yeah a minivan wasn't around or a Honda, my point is you're wrong on loads of torque, wrong on loads of torque right off down low, it comes on later after spinning up.
@@DishNetworkDealerNEO the loads of torque is actually gear ratio. Lots of those old trucks etc. Had really deep gear rear end that made em pull like 500lb ft of torque.
It's a slant 6. If you can't get one of those running, then it's either FUBAR or you don't know what you're doing. Those damn things were indestructable. Not real good for making power, but they'll keep your car on the road for 30 years without too much trouble.
Hey Luke... glad to see you are now close to Junkyard Digs and Mook.... it will be interesting to see if you can get this stump grinder to work again....
That has to be an industrial engine. The carb & starter are not something that was used in cars & trucks. The slant 6 was a long stroke engine, low rpm, hi torque. They used the same main bearings as a 440 V-8. Really tough engines.
Definitely an industrial distributor and carb. Weird part is the creative fab with half a transmission as an output shaft
@@ThunderHead289 I'm a MoPar nut & this is interesting. That bellhousing looks like it came off of a large truck (3/4 to or better) because of the bulk, motor mounts & location of the clutch fork opening. Probably had a hyd clutch at one time. Looks like they used a transmission input shaft, put a keyed shaft on the end of it for the drive pulley and supported the end with a pillow block bearing. They had to have some way of disengaging the engine from the drive pulley so the easiest way would be to use a clutch. They likely had a handle could be locked in the disengage position. Don't look like there is enough room for any sort of in/ out box inside the bell housing. From the late 60s through the early 90s Chrysler would drill their bell housings to accept various different transmissions, 3 speed, 4 speed OD units & 4 speed granny gear would all fit the same bell housing. A bit of trivia on the slant 6: The engine started out as a 170 ci aluminum engine but the times were not quite right for an all aluminum engine, they had numerous problems. So they decided to build an iron version instead but rather than creating new casting molds for the cast iron blocks they simply used the aluminum ones. End result: a heavy wall, very stiff, very tough little engine. Not much for power but would they ever take the abuse. I've heard of engine builders taking .100" off the cylinder head to increase compression. Good luck on the project and don't get hurt. I'm going to follow, got to see if it works.
Thanks for the video man.. i always really enjoy them..
Love the crazy find revival 😅
Nice to see you back,
I miss the days of the rot-stang.
I know you started your friends career.
I wish you much success,
I had a slant 6 a long time ago, smooth running engine. Ford, GM and AMC also made some great inline 6s.
That thing is a beast. I love Joe's G-Man glasses.
I like the how to from A to B. Your engineering does just that. Lean into this Utube thing,. You do really great stuff.
birdoes on top of a massive monstrous stump muncher powered by a slant six. How adorable! And also an amazing lookin machine!
They call it a leaning tower of power for a reason.
From the Man that brought us "The Mower Of DEATH".... Uncle Luke presents Wheels Of DEATH!!!! 😂😂😂
That looks like the engine from a Massey Ferguson 205 or 300 combine.
Oh, look! Another starter adventure! At least you didn't have to crawl under a 70 Satellite this time...
I don't understand the hate for the Chrysler starter. One starter fits 99% of chrysler cars and they just work. A superior design than Ford or Chevy at the time.
@@toddwest823 they sound like a dying cow, therefore it’s a terrible design
@@basedWisco715 So every modern gear reduction starter is a terrible design. got it😂
@@toddwest823 modern starters don’t sound like that, massive cope lmao
@@basedWisco715 So you would rather have a starter that doesnt work over one that has a diferent sound? Enjoy changing, shimming, dealing with heat soak on your inferior starteters. I'll stick with something that works, either the classic Chrysler starter or a newer one from a Dakota. Both gear reduction.
Thanks for keeping the videos coming.....
So you already seen the timing chain ? Cause my guess was gonna be , that there isnt any gear teeth left on it , just enough stubs to make it go around ...
Hmm, an engine rescue/resto vid? Heck yeah!
Also, that flat farmland in the background. I was out in Greenup, Illinois a week ago picking up a 1955 GE air conditioner. Different strokes 'n'at. Very flat land everywhere I looked. I live less than 2 hours from the Appalachian mountains so "flat" has a completely different meaning here lol.
That thing is definitely a masterpiece of destruction. I’m betting that thing gets rowdy when it runs
Oh love your channel i think you are a very smart young man and continue doing what you are doing with engines 45 years working on engines all kinds of engines it makes me happy to watch your channel whth your type of entertainment in the mechanical world 🇺🇲🔧💪👍 God Bless and keep the good work up🤯🔧🇺🇲 Oh ps. I am from Philadelphia Pa.
We had Buick 430's still running with cylinders at 75 psi... Dump some oil in the cylinders to seal up the rings and valves hose it with ether.. It'll kick off.. My Uncle John Duggan ran one of those grinders for years and kept repowering it with Vega and Rabbit 4 cylinders... That machine is a beast. I used to love how it leans jumps and lurches when its grinding...
was on my way to bed, then saw this video.. had to watch it.
Be interesting to see the follow up video.
Cheers for sharing.
Gotta love Old Timers and there ability to build just about anything to get the job done and they freekin built it to geter done!!!!
I've always had a respect for the slant six maybe because of all the stupid things people say about it.
In the 80's you could find a nice valient or scamp with one and drive it reliably for years for $400 - $500
If that was a Ford 300 you'd be grinding stumps before the video was over. Every slant 6 I've dealt with either spun rod bearings or threw rods out the side of the block.
My 1972 high school car was a 1962 225 slant six with 3 on the tree and 225,000 miles when purchased for $300. Drove that Valiant for 50,000 more miles with only oil, points, plugs, brakes, tires and a timing chain + timing cover to stop the oil leak from a small hole in the timing cover. The timing chain rubbed a hole in the cover. When I sold the Valiant to buy my first new car in 1976 the old slant six was running strong at 275,000 miles.A few years later I saw the old Valiant still on the road.
That thing a stump grinder or a ditch witch? Either way I can't wait to see what that old lump of steel can do! Hell of an effort for one day.
This is going to be great, Thank you, You are beyond excellent,
So close yet so far keep up the great work
Them points look amazing
That thing is epic cant wait to see more on it
I Really Appreciate You Guys Being Safe Taking The Belts Off Good Work Awsome Video!!!!
So chysler made an industrial version of just about every motor they made. Irrigation motors, fork lifts, dump trucks.. The entire spectrum.. From what I've seen they used different carbs, cams and heads to govern for different applications. The slant very well could be the original for that piece of equipment. Hagie farm equipment was notorious for chysler engines.
I hope it isn't original since have of a manual trans is cobbled in there with a few bearings having no way of lubricating
Uncle Luke is off his meds😂
I've seen slant 6 in combines before they were used in agricultural machinery.
Before watching I'm guessing Chrysler gonna run👌
I thought your last build was a stump grinder. 😂
I like to see this thing in action. I believe it would add a whole new meaning to the old phrase. If you can't find it. Grind it! 🤣
OSHA would not approve Uncle Luke 😂😂😂
That's pretty cool! I have an old log splitter with a 1968 GMC 478ci big block V6 on it.
I once operated a Hagie Hi-Boy sprayer that was powered by an industrial Chrysler Slant 6 which ran the hydraulic pump system.
Hahaha... Wait till u see the timing chain.........slightly better than the wheel
lol at the grinder blade turning into an impromptu second wheel
I had a swather with a Chrysler slant six . It was one of the best engines I’ve had. It’s always started after sitting for 9 months of the year.
Excellent video Thunderhead Luke :) yes slant 6 on 170 or 225 are interesting motors for sure and work lots them over years also! One stump me was a 1976 Plymouth Volarie 2 door with 225 Slant 6 and Automatic transmission my oldest brother David had in 1990 to 1993 for Winters Season months beater car ! Found was Distributor need change plus whole motor and then won't stayed start up was a brand new Faulty Baylis and Alternator Regulartor box for Recharge battery! After dug deeper it too also!
What a recovery attempt
Rags on Chrysler.
Dylan McCool would like a word with you...
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I’ve worked on a lot of slant 6s , they are cantankerous when worn . I think it’ll run for you.
I pulled an 87 out of a junkyard d150 and put it in a 47 1 ton panel truck, driven it couple hundred miles, blows a little black smoke and doesnt like giving power going up hills and getting above 60 miles an hour, time to rebuild?
Glad to see your back
Is you make the one shaft slidable with a lever make for mechanical leverage, the belts can be a form of a Tension clutch.