if God Regretted making man (Gensis 6:6 - And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart (ESV)), wouldnt that indicate that God messed up, and therefore is NOT perfect?
Dexter001 the Hebrew word Elohim does not always refer to G-d. Sometimes it refers to authority, judges, and leaders. This can be proven from Exodus 7:1 when G-d actually refers to Moses as an "Elohim" to pharoe. Therefore the "sons of Elohim" in Genesis 6 are the children of rulers of that generation. They started to marry women of ordinary people (sons of man). This is the opinion of Rashi. I haven't learned the book of Job too much, so I'm not sure what the context is there.
Any translation will automatically distort the meaning but u guess good place to start is www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/63255/jewish/The-Bible-with-Rashi.htm
+H A What is allah "swt". Can you tell us what belief/religion worship an ilah (god, in arabic) called allah "swt" before muhammad was born and created islam in the 7th century?
I don't know how the word regret can be changed for reconsider in genesis 6:6. Furthermore the word "regret" does not befit god in anyway even with the example that was mentioned at the end. Regret isn't used as a idiom or as a phrase for anything else other than for its original meaning.
Thanks. I'm an English Christian Zionist. The better translation 'reconsider' does make more sense. The translation 'repent' made this verse a problem for me since the Lord is not a son of man that He need repent. Thanks for posting.
Did God predestine it of his own freewill and no influence upon his choices the very sin that caused him to regret that he made mankind? If he did predestine it then why is he regretting the outcome?
@@agadirand4four347, thank you! Your input is much appreciated! I like that you brought in the hebrew words for analysis, and i personally have no qualms with islam, i do feel it is being misused for a evil world domination plan to remove the ability for righteous men who wish to merely communicate with one and other. We are all on a walk, whether we walk alone, or with others, is a choice we make personally. Its affects could be goog or bad, for that we have yet to see. Yehushua would prefer we act peaceably.
Salamo alaykom, it's simple if God is perfect and all knownig .. the question is why God reconsider or regret? ( you did give silly example with all my respect , when a dad have baby he should be happy or sad ..) we are human not a God don't compare. I would like you to answer.
Keep in mind that God did make us in His image. This is not to say we look like Him, but we have the ability to reason and to have feelings/emotions. For example: God is a jealous God (exodus 20:5); is it wrong for God to desire our utmost respect? Does it make sense to assert that He can only desire respect from people He KNOWS will give it? No, because then instead of being a jealous God He would just be a God who expects what He planned. Another example: We read many times about the anger or wrath of God-is it proper for God to have negative emotions? Sure, for he is righteous. The mistake on our part is to assume either that God cannot mourn or “regret” or-more accurately-“reconsider” what He does just as God can be angry with man for sinning despite always having known man would sin against Him. Cheers.
@@judgedredd31 first error God made us in his own image so were in the image of God fatal mistake their buddy hes God i doubt there are people who look like him again a miss interpetation in revelation God made adam in hes own image meaning adam was a full grown person didnt go throw childhool 2.hhhhhh God having attributes like Anger doesnt make him less but reconsidering stuff in a sign of ignorant wich contradicts an all knowing nature 3. the simple fact is that crap is not from God in the first place and its an addition like the rest additions we find in the bible
@@sttof10 Of course God makes no mistakes, he is perfect. WE make mistakes, and OUR mistakes can anger God, and he is entitled to be righteously angered. You say "no need for explaining," but I sincerely don't think you understand all of it together so I am trying to connect the dots for you.
@@youneskhouloud2504 you are misinterpreting what "image of God is," that would be YOUR fatal mistake. I'm not sure if you're implying God made a fatal mistake by making us in His image or if you're implying that God only made Adam in His image, but no, skipping childhood does not equal "in His image." Next, your opinion is that "reconsidering stuff is a sign of ignorance," and that this "contradicts an all knowing nature." I assure you, God is not the one in error here, you are. Read the scriptures again but with more humility. No one else can do your thinking for you especially if you will not humble yourself first: the door would remain shut for you.
Thank you for Clarifying this. Muslim and Yahud(Jews), we know the Most High answers prayers of the righteous and that prayer intercedes the Lord’s plan if it was answered and be saved by it. The most high does not regret or could he be wrong on his plans nor could He be outsmarted by the Satan like the Christian Bible said.
The Christian Bible meaning the new testament never says that God was outsmarted. Not sure where you got that from. Just remember when you are wondering if Jesus is the messiah read Isaiah 53.
I think it peculiar that G-d would regret designing something so significant but is G-d still evolving, also learning? This is what Gen 6:6 suggests. Certainly the depth of human suffering and love could translate into energy that could be heartbreaking for G-d to experience. We intellectualise an idea but G-d is something far different to what we are able to rationally comprehend. We personalise G-d to think he is like us but we are not like him at all, we just use ourselves as a reference point because that is what we know here and now. I know myself certainly that humanity in its present existential state, if I were G-d, would have regretted designing something so collectively floored, cruel, contradictory, malevolent and at best...an evolved worm... but in some there is still a glimmer of humanity that reflects what I would hope be a true reflection of G-d, but far too many are lost in what seems to be irredeemable evil.
With all respect the God that I know it’s a lovely God and It doesn’t matter how big your sin is God is a God of love if you come and ask for forgiveness he will forgive you and receive you with open arms not reconsider a punishment
there is a reason why the word repent is there, there is a fine line to draw to what is acceptable and justifiable , for not all sins are equal in weight 1 John 5:16 16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he should ask the Most High, who will give life to those who commit this kind of sin. There is a sin that leads to death; I am not saying he should ask regarding that sin. 17All unrighteousness is sin, yet there is sin that does not lead to death.
@@agadirand4four347 Wonderful my brother. What you have said sounds logical, but the thing is God's word is beyond our logic right. So yes, czcams.com/video/YpjKPn8hZQs/video.html czcams.com/video/55i2E1qYqi0/video.html What is the Bible? Is it a book that has been corrupted by some of the false-religious people who existed during the 1st century and had no idea of what the Bible ever spoke about? One thing I would assert is that, not a million people have ever known what the Bible is speaking about throughout the ages, 2000 years. Lakhs, yes, but I'm repeating this again, "Not a million people on this earth had yet known throughout the ages- what the Bible is, and what it speaks of. So, Is it a book that is being read by some people who religiously devote themselves to religion named Christianity? Is it a book that speaks of a prophet according to Islam being made by people a God? Bible, is the Word of God, and the Word of God is preserved as the cream above all the corruptions throughout all the generations where people corrupted Christianity. The Bible speaks of the very God, who has a definite reason, purpose, and plan as He made all the heavens and the earth. The Bible is the book that has been taken lightly by people and thought to be understood by people all around the world, by any person who reads it. If I ask you, what would you say the Bible is speaking about? How many times have you read the Bible? 5 times? Or 10? What have you understood from the Bible? What does it speak of?
@@agadirand4four347 Good evening. I also was burdened to share one more thing. Jehovah repented, Jehovah felt sorry, He was sad due to the wrongdoings of His people. Even when He judged His people, He judged with them loving compassion. He felt sorry, Jesus felt sad when He judged and punished His people. This is the love of a true father, an actual father, The Father. A father when he scourges his son does not do it because of his anger or his ego, if he does so, he is not at all qualified to be a father, and also, it is not necessary for the father to express his love or the reason for the punishment after the son has been punished for his wrongdoing so that the son will understand the reason father has shown anger over him. Outwardly the father has shown anger, but intrinsically, it is only the father who knows what he has actually done out of sheer love and righteousness. So, If he is a loving father, I mean it - "A Loving father", that father at no cost can touch his son at any point to avenge, but even in anger, that father has to give the wages of his son's punishment. Jesus is not only the Father of His people, He is also the God of His people, the Lord of His people, their just Judge. Even His anger is righteous and just; He is the "Jealous God of His people whom he loves to the uttermost. Though being righteous as a just Judge, as the God, as the Lord, as their Master and judging them, God did not be like a being not caring for their people after the judgment. The Lord was moved from the heart, felt sad, wept. Only if we are put in that place we will understand the love of a true father. I know in Islam, God is not a father, but when it comes to Christ, He is the Father of His people. There is a reason for God to be the Father of His people. I'll share the reason in our further conversation. It is not that God has created us so that means He is the real Father, no. That certainly is not the reason. The reason for this is different. As said, in our further conversation, my brother, we will discuss that.
@@agadirand4four347 You want to talk about the matter of God becoming a man, it is wonderful. But for our conversation now, that is not at all the topic we conversed at. So first, we will finish the first matter, then come to this my brother. And about repenting, what do you mean by God repenting my brother? Did you watch the video I mentioned through the link at my first reply? I would ask you to see that as my reply. It is not very long, it is moderate. Can quickly watch it if you play that at the speed of 1.2x. If we keep talking about it over and over again, it won't be of any use. So first, I would ask you to see them as my reply. And yes, my intention is not to win a debate or an argument, I just would like to share with you the truth of the Bible as you are a Muslim and have understood the Bible commonly as all do.
here is a short answer free will is always a deciding factor that determine what the outcome would be, so then a question i would present to the one that dispute or is against this, that should the Most High close the womb? he can and should he? except again who are we to reply or speak against his ruling Romans 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against the Most High? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Luke 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 2 Esdras 2: 30 -100 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Thank you brother for the answer but I think another question will be raised by this answer: G-D unlike human is not limited by time or by emotions from time to time. Comparing G-D emotions to humans is a limiting example Its more proper to think that G-D portrays what the nation deserve through their action, making them feel what is required to be done through their emotions. When G-D is angry means that His nation action is not inline with His will because of their bad actions. When they repent, G-D is merciful. Therefore G-D is not emotional and change from time to time. Its only that human action at certain time deserve specific treatment from Him depending on their actions at a time. When they sin, they deserve his anger more than anything else. When they repent, they deserve his mercy more than anything else. Thats my understanding how Quran portrays the LORD toward His creation. Salam/Shalom
@@agadirand4four347 I believe my statement stands. God isn't ignorant, but He can suffer loss and grieve. His justice must prevail His mercy eventually.
@@agadirand4four347 if your God fits into the box in your mind, it isn't a God. Sorry, buddy. My God is all things because nothing exists without Him. I'll pray for you :)
@@agadirand4four347 You have said it. My God WAS crushed and pierced and died a criminals death so that I may live with Him in eternal life. Have a lovely day
@@agadirand4four347 You will stand for your idle words before the Holiest of Holies, but there is yet time for you to repent. I'll pray for your heart to soften, enjoy some salt from my Lord in the mean time.
With all due respect uncle, I don't feel you fully answered the question. If God knew ahead of time that the Jews would worship the golden calf PLUS he knew Moses would pray to God, then God had nothing to reconsider, he already had the punishment for the Israelite predetermined. You only reconsider things when you have been given new knowledge or ways of thinking but God already has maximum knowledge so there is no way for him to reconsider things.
That is the same problem, how is it possible that you people cannot see it. If God is perfect then he doesn't reconsider things. You reconsider things because you are human but God is perfect an all powerful, meaning necessarily that God knows present past and future in advance. Reconsider is like saying "well I am doing this but, wait a minute, I may be wrong so I will reconsider what i am doing". That never happens to God because he knows in advance what is going to happen and that is why his plan is perfect there is no need for any reconsideration. Again trying to fit an unlimited consciousness in the way of thinking of a mortal human. How is it possible that you "men of intellect" cannot see this, is really disappointing how people really don't use their logic propriety..
What about the tower of Babel? Who made lucifer to sin? Why falllen angels? He could destroy all of them and to create some sort of A.I. or robots but no. He let satan alive....why? Many questions.......maybe there are some rules that even GOD can't break. We don't know all. But i know that 5 churches prayed for my mother in-law (she had 2 strokes) to live and she is still alive. The doctors told my whife that she will surely die. So God can reconsinder a judgement for someone...it is called Grace of God (or mercy).
@@onlyway4280 🥱you are like a kinder garden kid trying to talk about quantum physics hahaha. Do you have any proof that the Tower of Babel existed? or that Lucifer exists or even fallen angels? How can you be so sure of that? and you are using that as proof. If god is all powerful of course there are no rules god cannot break its so obvious, is in the words all powerful, you are not even trying men. To think that your prayers save you mother is like saying: Well, god was going to let you mother die but because you prayed for it not to be so, God changed his mind because he though your idea is better than his. OMG is obvious god knew since the beginning what he was going to do and what was necessary for your mother to experience, you cannot surprise God with a better plan than his. You guys are really impossible hahaha
@@andresortega4343 so GOD can make a rock so big and so heavy that even HIM cannot move it? (What kind of GOD will contradict Himself?) I don't think you understand the idee of knowing the FUTURE. For Ex. Tomorow will be sunny and i know that, but chinese army can send some jets to seed the clouds to make artificial rain. So tomorow will rain. What is the real future? Sunny or rain? don't say that GOD saw into the FUTURE the take of, of those plane, and HE knew that tomorow will rain. (we can choose). Future can be changed, history no! One of the Rules that GOD can't break is our FREE will. So i can decide to kill myself or to drink 10l of Votka or to travel from Romania to Jordan or to go in Saudi Mecca and shout loud "Allah is a man made god". (maybe they will kill me) i don't think GOD will save me but HE can intervine and cancel my flight or block my entrence into Mecca, but i can find alternative. GOD is perfect, yes, but HE is Holly and Just too....so why i don't see today milions of deaths on the news? (We all sin against HIM, disobey HIM). Knowing the Future is not like knowing the Past. Yes you can predict the Future based on our past behaviour but again the Future can be changed. And God is full of Mercy/Grace too, HE can see into our Future and know that one day we are going to do what is Right ("ne vom cai", lamentar, repent) or we can continue to please our mortal body.....and in that case we can grieve GOD bcz HE Loves us and HIS creation too much and we destroy ourselfs by not doing the will of DominiDeus.
What ever spin you put on it . It still makes god look imperfect. He made Saul then reconsidered. he was going to punish but reconsidered. He rethought he rehashed or he changed his mind. These are all signs of imperfect thought and wanting to redo something or do it over or changing your Mind like my bad let me re think this.
From human perspective, there is nothing wrong with thinking that G-d reconsiders or even changes His mind. Why else would we pray? The whole reason we pray is so that G-d does what we ask Him.
@@blessedishashemtheg-dofisr7397 When God said I regret the day I made saul, in the Bible it shows that he did something and want to go back and change it or reconsider it. For God to repent or regret or reconsider is a sign of imperfection. He wished he could go back to the day he made Saul and change it. This is a sign of imperfection.when God makes a final decision it is perfectly so.
@@shahabdurrasheed762 it doesn't say he wishes that he didn't create Saul. He reconsidered, simply means he decided to put someone else as king in place of Saul. Also when G-d reconsidered having created man, it means He decided to destroy humanity.
@@blessedishashemtheg-dofisr7397 if reconsidered the day he made Saul it is still imperfection. It would imply that my decision on that day was and imperfect one. He looked back on that day he made Saul and reconsidered it . He thought back to that day and realizied his decision was an imperfect one. No good anyway you spin it. To make a clear decision and the reconsider it is imperfection.
@@blessedishashemtheg-dofisr7397 if I pray and G-D change His mind, that tells me He doesn't have an original plan for me when He brought me in to this world with out my will. And doesn't G-D answer me according to His will but not mine ?! So there goes my free will.
Reconsider doesn't seem correct. Seems that more appropriate would be became angry then had mercy or pity when the people repented. These are confirmed attributes of Allah in the scriptures of Al Islam
I always ask the same questions now myself.Well it would seem that god/Allah ect ect is a sadistic,callous-minded ,deplorable entity.Why make us,to then destroy us,because of things,which he has allowed us to do Seems pretty foolish to me.
because it's a test god intentionally destroys people to test them if they would still believe in Allah(swt) even after being so much hurt, Allah(swt) wants you to draw closer to him and he does that by hurting you so you can rely on him to be healed again
@emir Even though I respect your comment you along with the rest of us have no valid evidence of this it's what you 'Believe' not what you truly "Know" to be certain because none of us, truly knows anything.
God does not reconsider because God does not make any errors. Only humans make errors, including errors of interpretation. God does not create anything in vain, that he would destroy it. In my opinion, you are misunderstanding the Torah. Shalom.
@@dannymonteiro33 I see several possibilities. In a symbolic/figurative reading, the LORD, being a name, may represent how the people of the time viewed God; so, it refers to God but having the characteristics given by the worldview and cultural context of that time. In a literal reading, the LORD may specifically represent one of the gods of the Ancient Near East, for example, Enki, who is known to have helped someone escape the flood, or it may represent Enlil, who is said to be responsible for destroying humanity with a flood, while the term elohim is used to represent different gods, especially, the one who was ruling at the time, Enlil, in this case. In Gen 6:6, the LORD would be Enlil, who wanted to destroy humanity. Of course, none of these gods were God.
@@dannymonteiro33 Note that by giving a name to the deity, it is possible to argue that the author of Genesis used the tetragramaton instead of the names of local mesopotamian deities, which would figure in the corresponding myth. For example, in ancient myths, the flood was caused by the god Enlil, while Enki was the god who saved Noah, who had however another name in the Akkadian or Babylonian flood stories, for all names in the bible are hebracized.
🤣🤣🤣 GOD IS THE SAME PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE. HE DOES NOT & NEVER WILL "CHANGE." GOD DIDN'T CHANGE HIS MIND. MOSES PRAYED WHICH GOD KNOWING EVERYTHING KNEW HE WOULD. WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE CHANGING GOD'S MIND, YOU'RE ONLY FOOLING YOURSELF. WHY? HE ALREADY KNOWS YOUR LIFE FROM THE CREATION OF TIME TIL YOUR DEATH... & YOU THINK YOUR PRAYERS CHANGES HIS MIND. HE KNEW HIS ANSWER BEFORE YOU PRAYED. IF YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN CHANGE HIS MIND, THAN YOU MUST BELIEVE YOU CAN MANIFEST THINGS AT WILL. 🤣
Thank for sharing this. God bless you my brother ❤️
Thank you and God bless
if God Regretted making man (Gensis 6:6 - And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart (ESV)), wouldnt that indicate that God messed up, and therefore is NOT perfect?
Regret Putting EvE In The Garden2 lol
Fantastic! Thank you, bless you.
@@agadirand4four347 No
Thank you! Very well said.
What is your view on who the sons of God are in Genesis 6? Also what is your view on who the sons of God are in the book of Job?
Dexter001 the Hebrew word Elohim does not always refer to G-d. Sometimes it refers to authority, judges, and leaders. This can be proven from Exodus 7:1 when G-d actually refers to Moses as an "Elohim" to pharoe. Therefore the "sons of Elohim" in Genesis 6 are the children of rulers of that generation. They started to marry women of ordinary people (sons of man). This is the opinion of Rashi. I haven't learned the book of Job too much, so I'm not sure what the context is there.
What translation is good for the tanakh? I don't know any Hebrew but I want to read it without Christian distortion to the meaning.
Any translation will automatically distort the meaning but u guess good place to start is
www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/63255/jewish/The-Bible-with-Rashi.htm
Salamun alaikum. Main thing is we believe in one creator. Thank you for your videos.
H A aleikum salam and thank you for your comment.
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What is allah "swt".
Can you tell us what belief/religion worship an ilah (god, in arabic) called allah "swt" before muhammad was born and created islam in the 7th century?
Thank you
Perfectly said.
Thant helps I’m teaching Sunday school.
I don't know how the word regret can be changed for reconsider in genesis 6:6. Furthermore the word "regret" does not befit god in anyway even with the example that was mentioned at the end. Regret isn't used as a idiom or as a phrase for anything else other than for its original meaning.
Thanks. I'm an English Christian Zionist. The better translation 'reconsider' does make more sense. The translation 'repent' made this verse a problem for me since the Lord is not a son of man that He need repent. Thanks for posting.
Did God predestine it of his own freewill and no influence upon his choices the very sin that caused him to regret that he made mankind? If he did predestine it then why is he regretting the outcome?
Thats my question as well.
How could it be the way we've been told, then you read and say to yourself ive been lied to.
@@agadirand4four347, thank you! Your input is much appreciated!
I like that you brought in the hebrew words for analysis, and i personally have no qualms with islam, i do feel it is being misused for a evil world domination plan to remove the ability for righteous men who wish to merely communicate with one and other.
We are all on a walk, whether we walk alone, or with others, is a choice we make personally. Its affects could be goog or bad, for that we have yet to see.
Yehushua would prefer we act peaceably.
Salamo alaykom, it's simple if God is perfect and all knownig .. the question is why God reconsider or regret? ( you did give silly example with all my respect , when a dad have baby he should be happy or sad ..) we are human not a God don't compare. I would like you to answer.
Keep in mind that God did make us in His image. This is not to say we look like Him, but we have the ability to reason and to have feelings/emotions. For example: God is a jealous God (exodus 20:5); is it wrong for God to desire our utmost respect? Does it make sense to assert that He can only desire respect from people He KNOWS will give it? No, because then instead of being a jealous God He would just be a God who expects what He planned. Another example: We read many times about the anger or wrath of God-is it proper for God to have negative emotions? Sure, for he is righteous. The mistake on our part is to assume either that God cannot mourn or “regret” or-more accurately-“reconsider” what He does just as God can be angry with man for sinning despite always having known man would sin against Him. Cheers.
@@judgedredd31 it was simple question. Can God make mistakes or not? No needs for explaining his feelings and our feelings.
@@judgedredd31 first error God made us in his own image so were in the image of God fatal mistake their buddy hes God i doubt there are people who look like him again a miss interpetation in revelation God made adam in hes own image meaning adam was a full grown person didnt go throw childhool
2.hhhhhh God having attributes like Anger doesnt make him less but reconsidering stuff in a sign of ignorant wich contradicts an all knowing nature
3. the simple fact is that crap is not from God in the first place and its an addition like the rest additions we find in the bible
@@sttof10 Of course God makes no mistakes, he is perfect. WE make mistakes, and OUR mistakes can anger God, and he is entitled to be righteously angered. You say "no need for explaining," but I sincerely don't think you understand all of it together so I am trying to connect the dots for you.
@@youneskhouloud2504 you are misinterpreting what "image of God is," that would be YOUR fatal mistake. I'm not sure if you're implying God made a fatal mistake by making us in His image or if you're implying that God only made Adam in His image, but no, skipping childhood does not equal "in His image." Next, your opinion is that "reconsidering stuff is a sign of ignorance," and that this "contradicts an all knowing nature." I assure you, God is not the one in error here, you are. Read the scriptures again but with more humility. No one else can do your thinking for you especially if you will not humble yourself first: the door would remain shut for you.
Thank you for Clarifying this. Muslim and Yahud(Jews), we know the Most High answers prayers of the righteous and that prayer intercedes the Lord’s plan if it was answered and be saved by it. The most high does not regret or could he be wrong on his plans nor could He be outsmarted by the Satan like the Christian Bible said.
The Christian Bible meaning the new testament never says that God was outsmarted. Not sure where you got that from. Just remember when you are wondering if Jesus is the messiah read Isaiah 53.
I think it peculiar that G-d would regret designing something so significant but is G-d still evolving, also learning? This is what Gen 6:6 suggests. Certainly the depth of human suffering and love could translate into energy that could be heartbreaking for G-d to experience. We intellectualise an idea but G-d is something far different to what we are able to rationally comprehend.
We personalise G-d to think he is like us but we are not like him at all, we just use ourselves as a reference point because that is what we know here and now. I know myself certainly that humanity in its present existential state, if I were G-d, would have regretted designing something so collectively floored, cruel, contradictory, malevolent and at best...an evolved worm... but in some there is still a glimmer of humanity that reflects what I would hope be a true reflection of G-d, but far too many are lost in what seems to be irredeemable evil.
With all respect the God that I know it’s a lovely God and It doesn’t matter how big your sin is God is a God of love if you come and ask for forgiveness he will forgive you and receive you with open arms not reconsider a punishment
there is a reason why the word repent is there, there is a fine line to draw to what is acceptable and justifiable , for not all sins are equal in weight
1 John 5:16
16If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he should ask the Most High, who will give life to those who commit this kind of sin. There is a sin that leads to death; I am not saying he should ask regarding that sin. 17All unrighteousness is sin, yet there is sin that does not lead to death.
Most importantly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ!
Though I believe in Jesus, but this enlightened me.
@@agadirand4four347 Wonderful my brother. What you have said sounds logical, but the thing is God's word is beyond our logic right.
So yes,
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What is the Bible?
Is it a book that has been corrupted by some of the false-religious people who existed during the 1st century and had no idea of what the Bible ever spoke about?
One thing I would assert is that, not a million people have ever known what the Bible is speaking about throughout the ages, 2000 years. Lakhs, yes, but I'm repeating this again, "Not a million people on this earth had yet known throughout the ages- what the Bible is, and what it speaks of.
So,
Is it a book that is being read by some people who religiously devote themselves to religion named Christianity?
Is it a book that speaks of a prophet according to Islam being made by people a God?
Bible, is the Word of God, and the Word of God is preserved as the cream above all the corruptions throughout all the generations where people corrupted Christianity.
The Bible speaks of the very God, who has a definite reason, purpose, and plan as He made all the heavens and the earth.
The Bible is the book that has been taken lightly by people and thought to be understood by people all around the world, by any person who reads it.
If I ask you, what would you say the Bible is speaking about?
How many times have you read the Bible? 5 times? Or 10? What have you understood from the Bible? What does it speak of?
@@agadirand4four347 I'm really sorry. I see this reply was posted a month ago. I believe hereafter, we will converse frequently
@@agadirand4four347 Good evening. I also was burdened to share one more thing. Jehovah repented, Jehovah felt sorry, He was sad due to the wrongdoings of His people.
Even when He judged His people, He judged with them loving compassion.
He felt sorry, Jesus felt sad when He judged and punished His people.
This is the love of a true father, an actual father, The Father.
A father when he scourges his son does not do it because of his anger or his ego, if he does so, he is not at all qualified to be a father, and also, it is not necessary for the father to express his love or the reason for the punishment after the son has been punished for his wrongdoing so that the son will understand the reason father has shown anger over him. Outwardly the father has shown anger, but intrinsically, it is only the father who knows what he has actually done out of sheer love and righteousness.
So, If he is a loving father, I mean it - "A Loving father", that father at no cost can touch his son at any point to avenge, but even in anger, that father has to give the wages of his son's punishment.
Jesus is not only the Father of His people, He is also the God of His people, the Lord of His people, their just Judge. Even His anger is righteous and just; He is the "Jealous God of His people whom he loves to the uttermost.
Though being righteous as a just Judge, as the God, as the Lord, as their Master and judging them, God did not be like a being not caring for their people after the judgment. The Lord was moved from the heart, felt sad, wept.
Only if we are put in that place we will understand the love of a true father.
I know in Islam, God is not a father, but when it comes to Christ, He is the Father of His people.
There is a reason for God to be the Father of His people. I'll share the reason in our further conversation. It is not that God has created us so that means He is the real Father, no. That certainly is not the reason. The reason for this is different.
As said, in our further conversation, my brother, we will discuss that.
@@agadirand4four347 You want to talk about the matter of God becoming a man, it is wonderful. But for our conversation now, that is not at all the topic we conversed at. So first, we will finish the first matter, then come to this my brother.
And about repenting, what do you mean by God repenting my brother?
Did you watch the video I mentioned through the link at my first reply?
I would ask you to see that as my reply. It is not very long, it is moderate.
Can quickly watch it if you play that at the speed of 1.2x.
If we keep talking about it over and over again, it won't be of any use.
So first, I would ask you to see them as my reply.
And yes, my intention is not to win a debate or an argument, I just would like to share with you the truth of the Bible as you are a Muslim and have understood the Bible commonly as all do.
@@agadirand4four347 brother how are you? I have more to speak about this matter.
Are you free?
here is a short answer free will is always a deciding factor that determine what the outcome would be, so then a question i would present to the one that dispute or is against this, that should the Most High close the womb? he can and should he? except again who are we to reply or speak against his ruling
Romans 9:20
Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against the Most High? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Luke 17:1
Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
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Thank you brother for the answer but I think another question will be raised by this answer: G-D unlike human is not limited by time or by emotions from time to time. Comparing G-D emotions to humans is a limiting example
Its more proper to think that G-D portrays what the nation deserve through their action, making them feel what is required to be done through their emotions. When G-D is angry means that His nation action is not inline with His will because of their bad actions. When they repent, G-D is merciful.
Therefore G-D is not emotional and change from time to time. Its only that human action at certain time deserve specific treatment from Him depending on their actions at a time.
When they sin, they deserve his anger more than anything else. When they repent, they deserve his mercy more than anything else.
Thats my understanding how Quran portrays the LORD toward His creation.
Salam/Shalom
I thought repent ment to change?
Regret is a luxury afforded to only the ignorant.
@@agadirand4four347 I believe my statement stands. God isn't ignorant, but He can suffer loss and grieve. His justice must prevail His mercy eventually.
@@agadirand4four347 if your God fits into the box in your mind, it isn't a God. Sorry, buddy. My God is all things because nothing exists without Him. I'll pray for you :)
@@agadirand4four347 You have said it. My God WAS crushed and pierced and died a criminals death so that I may live with Him in eternal life. Have a lovely day
@@agadirand4four347 You will stand for your idle words before the Holiest of Holies, but there is yet time for you to repent. I'll pray for your heart to soften, enjoy some salt from my Lord in the mean time.
@@agadirand4four347 I love my Lord. I need not fear Him if I remain obedient to His graceful instruction.
With all due respect uncle, I don't feel you fully answered the question. If God knew ahead of time that the Jews would worship the golden calf PLUS he knew Moses would pray to God, then God had nothing to reconsider, he already had the punishment for the Israelite predetermined. You only reconsider things when you have been given new knowledge or ways of thinking but God already has maximum knowledge so there is no way for him to reconsider things.
Or maybe freewill exists is a way we dont fully understand.
Thanks for god i am muslim
The lamb was sacrificed before the foundation, there’s no way God didn’t know
niphal in Hebrew means to lament.
Mental gymnastics.
I believe so many wrong translations from Hebrew!! I think reconsider is right one ❤ ❤ thanks
Sorry this definitely didn’t settle for me. God already knows the end
I'm a Christian but I sure love the Jews.
That is the same problem, how is it possible that you people cannot see it. If God is perfect then he doesn't reconsider things. You reconsider things because you are human but God is perfect an all powerful, meaning necessarily that God knows present past and future in advance. Reconsider is like saying "well I am doing this but, wait a minute, I may be wrong so I will reconsider what i am doing". That never happens to God because he knows in advance what is going to happen and that is why his plan is perfect there is no need for any reconsideration. Again trying to fit an unlimited consciousness in the way of thinking of a mortal human. How is it possible that you "men of intellect" cannot see this, is really disappointing how people really don't use their logic propriety..
What about the tower of Babel? Who made lucifer to sin? Why falllen angels? He could destroy all of them and to create some sort of A.I. or robots but no. He let satan alive....why? Many questions.......maybe there are some rules that even GOD can't break. We don't know all. But i know that 5 churches prayed for my mother in-law (she had 2 strokes) to live and she is still alive. The doctors told my whife that she will surely die. So God can reconsinder a judgement for someone...it is called Grace of God (or mercy).
@@onlyway4280 🥱you are like a kinder garden kid trying to talk about quantum physics hahaha. Do you have any proof that the Tower of Babel existed? or that Lucifer exists or even fallen angels? How can you be so sure of that? and you are using that as proof. If god is all powerful of course there are no rules god cannot break its so obvious, is in the words all powerful, you are not even trying men. To think that your prayers save you mother is like saying: Well, god was going to let you mother die but because you prayed for it not to be so, God changed his mind because he though your idea is better than his. OMG is obvious god knew since the beginning what he was going to do and what was necessary for your mother to experience, you cannot surprise God with a better plan than his. You guys are really impossible hahaha
@@andresortega4343 so GOD can make a rock so big and so heavy that even HIM cannot move it? (What kind of GOD will contradict Himself?) I don't think you understand the idee of knowing the FUTURE. For Ex. Tomorow will be sunny and i know that, but chinese army can send some jets to seed the clouds to make artificial rain. So tomorow will rain. What is the real future? Sunny or rain? don't say that GOD saw into the FUTURE the take of, of those plane, and HE knew that tomorow will rain. (we can choose). Future can be changed, history no! One of the Rules that GOD can't break is our FREE will. So i can decide to kill myself or to drink 10l of Votka or to travel from Romania to Jordan or to go in Saudi Mecca and shout loud "Allah is a man made god". (maybe they will kill me) i don't think GOD will save me but HE can intervine and cancel my flight or block my entrence into Mecca, but i can find alternative. GOD is perfect, yes, but HE is Holly and Just too....so why i don't see today milions of deaths on the news? (We all sin against HIM, disobey HIM). Knowing the Future is not like knowing the Past. Yes you can predict the Future based on our past behaviour but again the Future can be changed.
And God is full of Mercy/Grace too, HE can see into our Future and know that one day we are going to do what is Right ("ne vom cai", lamentar, repent) or we can continue to please our mortal body.....and in that case we can grieve GOD bcz HE Loves us and HIS creation too much and we destroy ourselfs by not doing the will of DominiDeus.
What ever spin you put on it . It still makes god look imperfect. He made Saul then reconsidered. he was going to punish but reconsidered. He rethought he rehashed or he changed his mind. These are all signs of imperfect thought and wanting to redo something or do it over or changing your Mind like my bad let me re think this.
From human perspective, there is nothing wrong with thinking that G-d reconsiders or even changes His mind. Why else would we pray? The whole reason we pray is so that G-d does what we ask Him.
@@blessedishashemtheg-dofisr7397 When God said I regret the day I made saul, in the Bible it shows that he did something and want to go back and change it or reconsider it. For God to repent or regret or reconsider is a sign of imperfection. He wished he could go back to the day he made Saul and change it. This is a sign of imperfection.when God makes a final decision it is perfectly so.
@@shahabdurrasheed762 it doesn't say he wishes that he didn't create Saul. He reconsidered, simply means he decided to put someone else as king in place of Saul. Also when G-d reconsidered having created man, it means He decided to destroy humanity.
@@blessedishashemtheg-dofisr7397 if reconsidered the day he made Saul it is still imperfection. It would imply that my decision on that day was and imperfect one. He looked back on that day he made Saul and reconsidered it . He thought back to that day and realizied his decision was an imperfect one. No good anyway you spin it. To make a clear decision and the reconsider it is imperfection.
@@blessedishashemtheg-dofisr7397 if I pray and G-D change His mind, that tells me He doesn't have an original plan for me when He brought me in to this world with out my will. And doesn't G-D answer me according to His will but not mine ?! So there goes my free will.
Why are most jewish white and children of jacob a sepreate
God dose not know sin!?
Reconsider doesn't seem correct. Seems that more appropriate would be became angry then had mercy or pity when the people repented. These are confirmed attributes of Allah in the scriptures of Al Islam
I always ask the same questions now myself.Well it would seem that god/Allah ect ect is a sadistic,callous-minded ,deplorable entity.Why make us,to then destroy us,because of things,which he has allowed us to do Seems pretty foolish to me.
I agree
because it's a test god intentionally destroys people to test them if they would still believe in Allah(swt) even after being so much hurt, Allah(swt) wants you to draw closer to him and he does that by hurting you so you can rely on him to be healed again
@emir
Even though I respect your comment
you along with the rest of us
have no valid evidence of this
it's what you 'Believe' not what you truly "Know" to be certain
because none of us,
truly knows anything.
God does not reconsider because God does not make any errors. Only humans make errors, including errors of interpretation. God does not create anything in vain, that he would destroy it. In my opinion, you are misunderstanding the Torah. Shalom.
Then explain that verse please.
@@dannymonteiro33
I see several possibilities. In a symbolic/figurative reading, the LORD, being a name, may represent how the people of the time viewed God; so, it refers to God but having the characteristics given by the worldview and cultural context of that time. In a literal reading, the LORD may specifically represent one of the gods of the Ancient Near East, for example, Enki, who is known to have helped someone escape the flood, or it may represent Enlil, who is said to be responsible for destroying humanity with a flood, while the term elohim is used to represent different gods, especially, the one who was ruling at the time, Enlil, in this case. In Gen 6:6, the LORD would be Enlil, who wanted to destroy humanity. Of course, none of these gods were God.
@@dannymonteiro33 Note that by giving a name to the deity, it is possible to argue that the author of Genesis used the tetragramaton instead of the names of local mesopotamian deities, which would figure in the corresponding myth. For example, in ancient myths, the flood was caused by the god Enlil, while Enki was the god who saved Noah, who had however another name in the Akkadian or Babylonian flood stories, for all names in the bible are hebracized.
Muslim??
I think God regretted because we got free will and he couldn't take it back.
That's funny
God in the Torah is not Omniscient compare to Quran. I'm proud to be Muslim.
Quran is fake, my friend
🤣🤣🤣 GOD IS THE SAME PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE. HE DOES NOT & NEVER WILL "CHANGE." GOD DIDN'T CHANGE HIS MIND. MOSES PRAYED WHICH GOD KNOWING EVERYTHING KNEW HE WOULD. WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE CHANGING GOD'S MIND, YOU'RE ONLY FOOLING YOURSELF. WHY? HE ALREADY KNOWS YOUR LIFE FROM THE CREATION OF TIME TIL YOUR DEATH... & YOU THINK YOUR PRAYERS CHANGES HIS MIND. HE KNEW HIS ANSWER BEFORE YOU PRAYED. IF YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN CHANGE HIS MIND, THAN YOU MUST BELIEVE YOU CAN MANIFEST THINGS AT WILL. 🤣
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