Officially, Murer’s pole was mistaken for a disqualified participant’s pole, and for this, she has received a former apology from Beijing in 2008. 😢 In a 2009 interview by Murer’s team, however, they suspected that the pole was lost perhaps intentionally due to possible interference. If you ask me, who knows. All I know is that it would be devastating to lose all your efforts due to mistake not made by yourself. 🙌🏻
@@JL-fx2cd that's the funny thing about China. Half the time it happened because they suck. The other half of the time it happened because they did it on purpose. 100% of the time you lose. 100% of the time China win.
@@HootNannyput a top class runner in flip flops and then demand him run at top speed. Give a football player a deflated football and demand him kick the ball perfectly into the goal. Thats your logic.
@@HootNanny The poles actually mean everything. The elasticity, size and a bunch of other things of your specific pole that you train with every day are custom made for you. It screws you completely to have to use someone else’s pole. Don't say stuff you know nothing about plz.
@HootNanny theres something very wrong with you. if someone takes your stuff and then gives you faulty low quality to use as a replacement. thats YOUR LOGIC.
The logistical nightmare would make rescheduling actually impossible. Everything is run on the schedule so you can run a little late but otherwise you cancel the whole thing.
They don't cheat, nearly all the cheats in the Olympics that was in Russia was due to officials and not the athletes Also Chinese officials did this not russia
@@knudskoubo1090 That is such a braindead argument trying to be misleading considering cases of russian doping are not only much more frequent but also more recent. Every country has had doping scandals, however russia is one of the highest on the list...
@@ihavetowait90daystochangem8 'one of the highest on the listt'... USA is of course number 1... USA athletes have the best doping in the world and is organised on a high level...
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
Equipment doesn't evaporate, teleport or sprout legs and walk away. Someone picked it up and took it somewhere else. That never happens by accident. And the fact that officials were responsible for supervising the competitors' equipment managed to let this happen unnoticed and unreported proves that this is intentional sabotage done with the full knowledge and approval of the officiating staff.
I'm Brazilian, I was 9 when this happened, and I remember being so angry because she had so much potential for a golden medal. It was a big deal here in Brazil, especially because we had to wake up in the middle of the night to watch the competitions, so we were all sleep deprived and angry at the same time. My P.E. teacher had made my classmates and I watch the whole Olympics, so each one of us could do a project about one sport that we learned and couldn't be repeated from the other classmates, but with this whole situation happening we pretty much lost focus for a while. Because of that, this sabotage is forever engraved in my memory to a point of just a glimpse of Fabiana Murer's was enough to know what the video was gonna to be about and to make me angry all over again.
I'll give you one better. During one of the summer Olympics Matt Emmons, who was favored to win a gold at 3 position rifle had his rifle vandalized with a screwdriver. All competitors rifles were locked up in the same room and someone got access to the room and sabotaged his rifle. If I remember right he borrowed one of the female competitors rifles and he either shot Gold or Silver with it. Not sure on the medal color.
Yes they took it intentionally to frame the Russians... Do you think that the Russians would be so stupid to hide a stolen pole in their own equipment closet?
@@Bulldawg491 It definitely was as I’m sure she had her pole before competition. Now it’s her turn and it’s magically gone? Not to mention she was a high athlete who a lot came to support…how can they miss putting her pole in the cubbies when I’m sure thorough checking is involved to make sure everyone’s pole is there.
I was there, as an athlete. Cameras, volunteers, “volunteers” and security, were everywhere. It was wild. No way someone didn’t see it, but did they understand what they witnessed? Probably not. Even if a camera caught it, the story is “I thought it was from a disqualified competitor and took it out.”
@@Flawless.x The real irony is that its usually those "white guys" that don't have to cheat in competition to win. I wonder why that is, perhaps its just coincidence.
@maximisatwat Exactly. No poles should be removed from the field. They should all have to remain right there out in the open. The only people who should be allowed to interact with the poles during a match should be the athlete or their coach. Have an extra official seated there for the match to supervise.
@@frankthewrench340she probably would’ve won. The poles aren’t the exact same. Different masses, center of gravities, length, girth, elasticity. She got used to HER pole. It’s like if someone randomly switched your sensitivity settings in a game.
Nothing at the Olympics - in 2012, she was punted in the quarterfinals and a herniated disc in 2016 made a failed qualification in Rio her last recorded competition - she did win various competitions and her greatest achievement seems to have been a 2011 World Championship win. She also had a 2010 Indoor World Championship win - I don't know if those are bigger than the World Championships. While she did have other bad showings, her normal performance at that time in her career seems to be 0.2-0.3m higher than how she performed in Beijing so...
@@Edi_J There's not a lot of reason to assume it was intentional. The Russian was the reigning record holder at 0.34m above the Brazilian's career best to-date and would go on to set another record while the Brazilian would never get closer than 0.2m of the title. She finished 6th in the World Championship and 3rd in the World Indoor Championship that year - not nothing but not "this is the person I need to sabotage". Also, someone else said that there was a different vaulter who was disqualified and the claim was that the officials confused the poles for the two athletes. Without a compelling motive, I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt here.
The Olympic committee or judges should have postponed the whole damn competition until they found that pole. Camera feeds should have been checked, staff should have been questioned, and the audience should have been informed that they would have to wait to see the rest of the competition, because someone stole or hid that pole.
In Asian games 2023, they tried their dirty game against Olympics Javelin Gold Medalist Neeraj Chopra. They didn't count his best throw(first attempt). In response he threw an even longer throw and won the gold.
I obviously don't know anything about this sport, but shouldn't the pole be standardised? I'm pretty sure we can engineer a pole with consistent performance.
@TUDORMARCU16 Not a pole vaulter, but used to be a capable open water swimmer, and was involved with other sports teams. What you say is kinda true, but even if a pole is standardised when first used, sports equipment will wear differently. Each athlete at this level trains their skills to muscle memory, and their equment will wear with that approach. Over time, the athletes become used to their equipment, and they generally get better results with familiar items. You could argue that it would be more fair if everyone used a new pole in competition, but it would also be more costly, and the feats achieved would likely become less impressive, cutting viewership and sponsors. It might also increase injuries. All that is assuming all poles are made identical, but there are differences between poles of different brands, weights, and composition, which one becomes the standard? Rules and inspections, combined with better security at important events should keep things fair, but still let athletes match themselves and their equipment well.
An example I think may apply are ballet dancers pointe shoes. Mass produced, but everyone has their own ways and methods to break them in. Also being GRP, the materials the poles are made from are not homogenous, so whilst they are made in a uniform manner they will be idiosyncratic, on top of that consider the mental/superstitious factor for top athletes discovering their equipment has been taken/tampered with.
There were SO Many cheating scandals in the bejing Olympics. The British team was told to go vegetarian as there were meats tampered with that would force a failed drugs test found delivered to team villages int he 2 weeks before the comp
I remember visiting Beijing in 1993 and seeing signs everywhere stating Beijing Olympics 2000 as if that should force the Olympics committee to hold it in Beijing. Fortunately, they didn't.
All the people and cameras out there and nothing was revealed 😞 The poles are placed in designated holders, like a locker but without a door or locking mechanism. If it was a mistake for a bad one? It was the only one removed, nobody informed them that it was a problem nor reported it, it was expected prior to being placed in the pole holder and how convenient the poles that everyone can use were even in poorer condition that day and where did they find her pole at? Why did nobody speak up and said hey I removed a pole earlier and placed it over here?
Dieter Pohl conducted a poll in Warsaw, asking 1 out of every 10th Pole he met, how to spell pole. His answers are stored in a vault. It's called the Pohl Pole pole poll vault.
@paulgannon7749 you Sir, have done your parents proud, you school proud, your town/city proud, your country proud and your continent proud. Take a bow Sir! 🤣🤣🤣
People who don’t pole vault really have no idea how crucial your pole is in this world event. I was doing a state qualifier my sophomore year and was on track to qualify, but day of had a complication to where I wasn’t allowed to use that pole. Ended up not even placing
It's just like any other personal sports equipment, of course different gear last minute will throw people off especially when competing at the highest level. It's demeaning to think people wouldn't understand if they haven't pole vaulted.
I used to pole vault. Having the right pole that you're used to using is a huge deal. I get that you should be able to use anything, but it does make a huge difference in performance Edit: 848 likes so far! Nice! Thank you guys for all the likes, comments, and questions!😁 really didn't expect it lol.
Using a different pole can be devastating. She and her coaches fault for not watching her pole. As a former pole vaulter, I switched poles in HS, on the advice of a college coach, and I took 3rd vs a sure 1st place at the state meet
They can't and they won't She was given a choice to dq herself out or use another pole. She chosen the latter hence she consented to perform. She will just blame the equipment if she failed, and this issue wouldn't surface if she did jumped well. Lesson learned, it's not to trust no one, but to always carry an extra pole. She should assume her one pole can break down.
@@Blitzkit you can bring 5 into the comp, they have minute differences to account for surface, weather, heat, that sort of thing and yiu select the pole you want to use and that's locked in at that point. The fact that THE pole she selected wasn't there is HUGE. The fact she wasn't able to jump with an unknown pole that wasn't hers that was essentially here have this one we have laying around.... Is a huge problem
Exactly😊 What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
@@Ian-mj4ptThat's not how it works, both are them are clearly being sabotage since no one who risk to hide it in their own locker since there's a possibility that someone will look for it. This is the same when you stole someone phone, like why would u even put the phone in your bag when someone can look at it.
Yes because "you can't guarantee their safety" or simply because you are russophobes, Isinbaeva is the greatest female jumper in history, Brazilian wasn't even a candidate for a medal.
Oh yeah when this poor brasilian girl ended at 4.55, and Isinbaeva at 5.03 height.... Sure she could win gold, if not missing pole, with her best result in career 4.85, sure, bad russians, must be banned, cuz they are better and watching competition become boring
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
You are not entirely right, they are still participating, just under non country organisations, without allowing display ruzzian symbolics, but in the ruzzia they are still regarded as ruzzian athletes, and in case of win, still used as pride reasons, boosting ideology of the current regiment... They have to be banned fully, by passport...
At the Beijing Olympics in 2008, Brazilian pole-vaulter Fabiana Murer would have been a good bet to challenge world record-holder Elena Isinbayeva - that is, if Chinese track-and-field officials hadn’t lost Murer’s pole. Murer entered the competition at 4.45 and was set to attempt 4.55. But the pole she uses for that height was missing. Poles vary in length and flexibility and vaulters select one depending on the height they are jumping, the weather conditions and how many jumps they have already completed. Murer brought 10 poles to the Bird’s Nest arena, but when she went to retrieve the one ideal for 4.55 she found - to her shock - it was missing. After searching frantically and futilely, a visibly upset Murer was forced to skip 4.55 and go to the next height. She failed three times at 4.65 meters, a mark well below her best - and ended up being bounced out the competition in 10th place.
No one was challenging Isinbayeva that year in July that year she broke the WR at 2 events 5.03 and 5.04m then broke it at the Olympics a few weeks later to 5.05m and won all 3 of the Diamond League events before the olympics where all the best in the world compete.
If you recall, at the Moscow Olympics during track and field, the Russians would open up the giant doors at either end of the stadium to give their athletes the wind advantage then close them for the other competitors...they have form. Have them turn up by all means because their antics are always entertaining....just don't allow them to compete.
Pretty sure all the drugs might indicate “form” too. For a country which systematically drugs 15y/o figure skaters in 2022, opening doors and stealing poles is considered perfectly reasonable behaviour…
@@toto-yf8tc wouldn’t know, and if they do and get caught, I assume they get banned because that’s what has happened previously. This video is about Brazil, Russia and China though, so not understanding why the US has been brought up?
@@toto-yf8tcyou rlly can’t there’s a bunch of shit that’s banned and athletes get screened regularly. Thousands of careers have been ruined bc of drugging/exposure.
@@alyssahartweckjohnson7989if you say that is not possible, then you have zero ideas of what is going on in sports 😂😂😂 . Ask any athlete if they would do a monthly analysis for 1 year.... you will be surprised that none will agree. The check that they do is 2 months and 1 month before, wile the stay the rest of 8 months split in 2 cicles of juice.
No one at the time was winning against Yelena, so let's not even go there. If Russian officials would have orchestrated something similar it would be Jen Suhr's poles that went missing, because she was the only semi legitimate competition and Yelena still cleared 25 cm more than her in that final. That in itself is an astronomical achievement, Isinbayeva was in a league of her own.
Guess what? A Russian, Svetlana Feofanova, won the bronze medal. Perhaps the Russian cheating was to help ensure that Feofanova got to the medal stand, not necessarily to ensure that Isinbayeva won the gold.
@@johnward2998 Yeah, yeah..... It's always cheating when Russians win, isn't it. Yelena was winning regardless of the circumstances, she's the all time greatest, Feofanova was almost guaranteed a medal since she was amongst the best 3 in the world for years beforehand. So let's cut the crap, someone from the organizational team misplaced her poles by accident, end of story.
@@petesmart1983 You do know that the only reason Russian athletes get caught is the current geopolitical situation. Every professional athlete, in every sport, from EVERY country uses substances ( many of them unrightfully banned) to get a competitive advantage. And FYI, Yelena is the all time greatest, no one has reached anywhere bear 5,05 with or without doping and I'm sure the pharmacological know-how has increased ×100 since she was active. So the b*tches now can only worship at her shrine because she was a phenomenon in her sport.
Beijing? Then they did it intentionally. Similar thing happened to Indian sprinter by the officials there. They yielded when their act was called out with evidence by the Indian officials.
@@Jasper77 When even the Olympics turn racist. Is it Russian athletes who invaded Ukraine? Then what's the reason to punish them, other than the fact that they are Russian?
@@darkfoxxbunyipoh just eat shot Russians always Play dirty and sabotage others in sports and then have fucking attitude when others are pointing at their cheating
@@Aderrol_yeah sure, someone just said something about the one in moscow where organizers gave advantage to their runners, so I feel as if Russia is trying to make their country win to feel superior here
@@zz4562Sometimes we need to use common sense, why would u even put something you stole on your own thing when there's a possibility that they will find it in there, especially she's a player so which means she's a suspect in hididng it just like how other players is.
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
Bruh whatever country took it definitely didn't store it in their own locker. I think it wasn't the Russians, they would've put it in Brazil's own locker to avoid suspicions. Someone probably tried to blame them.
lol Chinese aren’t even in the top 10, however there’s 3 Russians in top 10. Why would China sabotage one Russia just to let the other one win. What’s more likely 😂
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
This is just as bad as the vault being 5cm too low in the Sydney Olympics. What the heck is going on with these officials? Seems like more stuff is happening every year, and they screw up a log of things. The pole does sound like it was stolen, though.
would you put a stolen thing into your locker? Isinbaeva would've easily win without all these shenanigas. Unless there was a potential #2, that could become #1 after a scandal and it wasn't this brazilian athlete with all respect. It's so easy to manipulate people...
@@dmitrychirkov4206the usual russian mind gymnastics, to bend the obvious. Everywhere someone always trying to frame russians, right? it’s not like they have a culture of cheating and stealing. In russian culture - successful crime is not a crime
The Russian athlete jumped 5m05 Fabiana Murer the Brazilian pole vaulter, cleared 4.85 meters at the 2010 Ostrava Golden Spike competition. This is her personal best jump height ever. In this competition she ended up in 10th. The silver medalist was a US athlete who jumped 4m80 You don't snatch something and hide it where you can be incrimidated... so someone stole the pole, someone with reasons for it.
That’s how it read also. The missing pole just happened to be in the Russian’s storage area, someone who wouldn’t have any benefit from the putting a competitor down?
The only person who actually benefited from that was the American silver medalist, and the Russian and Brazilian girl have the same coach and have a great relationship with each other. And the Russian althlete jumped 30 centimeters higher than the Brazilian athletes best. It’s hilarious how everyone blames the Russians when the only person who benefited was the American silver medalist
It was taken by the officials and placed next to the russian contestants', for the exact reason you made this video, to cast blame on the russian athlete
You can't cheat world records dumb....oh wait, a name sounding like Lance Armstrong came to my mind... you're right... "cheater faking whole life " award to American.. big surprise
Kind of sounds like when the Olympics were held in Russia and during the javelin throw competition, big windows were opened to influence the performance of competitors to favor Russia's athlete
They found pole in russian locker room. Year surely right. This is exactly what car thieves do, they park stolen cars in front of their house and leave their phone number, full legal name and address on the windshield.
Officially, Murer’s pole was mistaken for a disqualified participant’s pole, and for this, she has received a former apology from Beijing in 2008. 😢
In a 2009 interview by Murer’s team, however, they suspected that the pole was lost perhaps intentionally due to possible interference.
If you ask me, who knows. All I know is that it would be devastating to lose all your efforts due to mistake not made by yourself. 🙌🏻
What do you lot expect? Russia & China…pffsss
Hahahah
Was MISTAKINGLY? come on u can't be that naive..?
I'm sorry she would've done better but she wouldn't have beaten Isenbeyeva
@@JL-fx2cd that's the funny thing about China. Half the time it happened because they suck. The other half of the time it happened because they did it on purpose.
100% of the time you lose.
100% of the time China win.
It needs to be said that Murer wasn't just a "strong competitor" she was the number 2 in the world and possibly the only real threat to Isimbaeva
That part
@@HootNannyput a top class runner in flip flops and then demand him run at top speed.
Give a football player a deflated football and demand him kick the ball perfectly into the goal.
Thats your logic.
@@HootNanny The poles actually mean everything. The elasticity, size and a bunch of other things of your specific pole that you train with every day are custom made for you. It screws you completely to have to use someone else’s pole. Don't say stuff you know nothing about plz.
@HootNanny theres something very wrong with you. if someone takes your stuff and then gives you faulty low quality to use as a replacement. thats YOUR LOGIC.
@HootNanny*you’re good
Let's call it as it as it is, it was taken. No Debate.
100% sabertague, so she would not win. That's So un sportsmanship
prove it
I don’t know why she’d bring one pole, though. It’s the OLYMPICS! And poles break.
it was taken like all the other IPtheft=Intellectual Property that ccp communists china steals...
Lmao you must bee a freaking genius to get that out of this video
If the organizer is responsible for the storage and availability of the equipment, then why can’t the competition be halted to do a major search?
because that would allow people to totally sabotage the whole olympics. The show must go on.
The logistical nightmare would make rescheduling actually impossible. Everything is run on the schedule so you can run a little late but otherwise you cancel the whole thing.
Sponsors...
I’m thinking that some type of insurance is needed then. $30 million for any lost or damaged equipment under the care of the organizer.
@@prst99insurance works by replacing your missing item 😂
Russian athletes cheating in the Olympics? That’s crazy and 100% unexpected.
They don't cheat, nearly all the cheats in the Olympics that was in Russia was due to officials and not the athletes
Also Chinese officials did this not russia
Sounds like the USA... They always use doping... Dont know of any US athlete that havent used doping
@@knudskoubo1090 That is such a braindead argument trying to be misleading considering cases of russian doping are not only much more frequent but also more recent. Every country has had doping scandals, however russia is one of the highest on the list...
@@ihavetowait90daystochangem8 'one of the highest on the listt'... USA is of course number 1... USA athletes have the best doping in the world and is organised on a high level...
@@knudskoubo1090 yikes, imagine being this misinformed. I hope you get better someday.
You’re telling me, that they mistakenly misplaced a literal 12 foot pole in the middle of an arena?
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
nope, russians just stole it. They are cheating constantly. Nothing changed since soviet times there. Pathetic nation.
Unbelievable.
🤣
In china…against a russian competitor.
Equipment doesn't evaporate, teleport or sprout legs and walk away. Someone picked it up and took it somewhere else. That never happens by accident. And the fact that officials were responsible for supervising the competitors' equipment managed to let this happen unnoticed and unreported proves that this is intentional sabotage done with the full knowledge and approval of the officiating staff.
My pole teleports
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found it
It never happens by accident?
It was an accident. A pole was supposed to be removed due to someone being disqualified however they removed the wrong pole.
it STEAL, Strategically Teleporting Equipment to Alternate Location...
Nobody is saying a pole just gets legs and evaporates. Accidents do happen though
I'm Brazilian, I was 9 when this happened, and I remember being so angry because she had so much potential for a golden medal. It was a big deal here in Brazil, especially because we had to wake up in the middle of the night to watch the competitions, so we were all sleep deprived and angry at the same time. My P.E. teacher had made my classmates and I watch the whole Olympics, so each one of us could do a project about one sport that we learned and couldn't be repeated from the other classmates, but with this whole situation happening we pretty much lost focus for a while.
Because of that, this sabotage is forever engraved in my memory to a point of just a glimpse of Fabiana Murer's was enough to know what the video was gonna to be about and to make me angry all over again.
I'll give you one better. During one of the summer Olympics Matt Emmons, who was favored to win a gold at 3 position rifle had his rifle vandalized with a screwdriver. All competitors rifles were locked up in the same room and someone got access to the room and sabotaged his rifle. If I remember right he borrowed one of the female competitors rifles and he either shot Gold or Silver with it. Not sure on the medal color.
That was no mistake, that was intentional af
Probably not even taken by the Russians, but someone wanting to stir trouble
Yes they took it intentionally to frame the Russians... Do you think that the Russians would be so stupid to hide a stolen pole in their own equipment closet?
It wasn’t
@@Bulldawg491 It definitely was as I’m sure she had her pole before competition. Now it’s her turn and it’s magically gone? Not to mention she was a high athlete who a lot came to support…how can they miss putting her pole in the cubbies when I’m sure thorough checking is involved to make sure everyone’s pole is there.
He is talking about the arrow pointing to the subscribe button
There are cameras everywhere, even back in 2008 something as important as the Olympics I'm sure would have had even a few areas under surveillance.
Exactly, they know who stole it, they just wanted to set up the Russians to look bad
Heavy censorship in China. You think they'd release the footage if it doesn't benefit their friend Russia?
I was there, as an athlete. Cameras, volunteers, “volunteers” and security, were everywhere. It was wild. No way someone didn’t see it, but did they understand what they witnessed? Probably not. Even if a camera caught it, the story is “I thought it was from a disqualified competitor and took it out.”
too bad it was bejing’s olympics…
Depends on how trustworthy the host nation is.
Beijing and Russia? What a surprise !
Coming from a white guy is ironic.
@@Flawless.xnot really lol the Chinese and Russians are known cheaters at sporting events
@@Flawless.x The real irony is that its usually those "white guys" that don't have to cheat in competition to win. I wonder why that is, perhaps its just coincidence.
@@Flawless.xMark is a common name for everyone tho. You sure you ain’t a bot?
@@reading6914 you're correcting me but not him? fix the issues from the roots.
Beijing was helping Moscow in these events 😂
Smells like sabotage.
Yeah, and then they placed the poles in another competitors storage as a smoke screen....
Oh that's a great song by The Beastie Boys.
@@TheSolidMidgetOfficialand a Black Sabbath album (sabotage)
It was found in the Russian storages. Ofc they took it. Russians cheat at everything.
yhh
That's ridiculous. There should be a rule that no pole be removed until the conclusion of the entire event, regardless of any disqualifications.
IT wasnt removed. It was hidden in a Russian's locker. I wonder if we can guess who stole it.
@maximisatwat Exactly. No poles should be removed from the field. They should all have to remain right there out in the open. The only people who should be allowed to interact with the poles during a match should be the athlete or their coach. Have an extra official seated there for the match to supervise.
Giggity giggity that's what she said LMFAO😅
@@jimbojimbo8 AHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@candacematson6773 that only works if the official isn't the one who takes it...
Russians trying to not cheat in international sport events (IMPOSSIBLE)
Them Russians sure know how to do things without doing anything. 😂😂
It was stolen. So who is the suspect. Yeah right.
Any of the other countries is the suspect 😊
IP Theft ccp communist china i assume...
Stolen in a special operation
Any of other countries, especially those with beef for both countries.
Amerissia
No footage of the CHEAT who stole it? They knew they would lose to her
YEs , just blame putian
because that is what the RF does@@boomshine7
*placed 10*
"If it wasnt for that ONE pole going missing, she would of won" 😂😂
@@frankthewrench340she probably would’ve won. The poles aren’t the exact same. Different masses, center of gravities, length, girth, elasticity. She got used to HER pole. It’s like if someone randomly switched your sensitivity settings in a game.
I'll never understand why you kids are so proud of being so ignorant and out of touch with reality@@frankthewrench340
Am I the only one who saw the arrow pointing on her bottom while saying "press the BUTTon..."?!
Russia cheating at the Olympics? No way!!
that is so sad, this is a once in a lifetime event for some people. i hope she went on to win something later on
Nothing at the Olympics - in 2012, she was punted in the quarterfinals and a herniated disc in 2016 made a failed qualification in Rio her last recorded competition - she did win various competitions and her greatest achievement seems to have been a 2011 World Championship win. She also had a 2010 Indoor World Championship win - I don't know if those are bigger than the World Championships.
While she did have other bad showings, her normal performance at that time in her career seems to be 0.2-0.3m higher than how she performed in Beijing so...
She actually od on heroin shortly after this due to the trauma
@@forgottenfamily And this is how Chinese-Russian "saving face" deal ruins lifetime of work for a dedicated girl.
@@Edi_J There's not a lot of reason to assume it was intentional. The Russian was the reigning record holder at 0.34m above the Brazilian's career best to-date and would go on to set another record while the Brazilian would never get closer than 0.2m of the title. She finished 6th in the World Championship and 3rd in the World Indoor Championship that year - not nothing but not "this is the person I need to sabotage".
Also, someone else said that there was a different vaulter who was disqualified and the claim was that the officials confused the poles for the two athletes. Without a compelling motive, I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt here.
@@Edi_J facts. These disgusting communist bedfellows are shameless.
The Olympic committee or judges should have postponed the whole damn competition until they found that pole. Camera feeds should have been checked, staff should have been questioned, and the audience should have been informed that they would have to wait to see the rest of the competition, because someone stole or hid that pole.
If it had been destroyed or removed from site, you have now extended the entire competition beyond the closing ceremony of the Paralympic games
Russians and trickery..to be expected.
so they found it in a locker belonging to the only threat in the competition.wtf who was the judges the tory party ?
It is China. There would literally have been cameras absolutely everywhere filming absolutely everything and being monitored in real time.
You really did know what you were doing when you said hit that subscribe button with that picture 😂😂😂😂😂
Sportsmanship gone out the window
Bro that arrow was NOT pointing to the subscribe button 😭
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I SAW THAT
And yet you wanted to smack that...
Subscribe button 😜
I WAS LIKE 'WTH BRO THAT AINT POINTING AT NO SUB BUTTON'💀
I was laughing so hard bro
I hit the dislike button just for that stupid comment by him. So desperate
Let's not pretend that there aren't millions of cameras all over the arena.
moral of the story/lesson: train with many different poles so you can get used to many different poles..no pun intended whatsoever
"ah yes, this pole with this name of one of the best competitors that hasnt gone yet? Gotcha"
Russians, immoral and cheating as always
It was reported the KGB were the golden medal winners for that olympics.
KGB is Belarusian not Russian.
@@volkenvolk3135KGB, FSB, FBI all the same shit
This aint the 60s anymore grandpa. They're rebranded as the FSB now.
@@Brslld same same but different
Black humor kinda funny😅😅
“Im nothing without my pole”
“Well maybe then you shouldn’t have it”
They "accidentally" misplaced the pole of their greatest challenger
In Asian games 2023, they tried their dirty game against Olympics Javelin Gold Medalist Neeraj Chopra.
They didn't count his best throw(first attempt).
In response he threw an even longer throw and won the gold.
Funny fake news and disinformation 🤡
Foreign Olympic registered Officials were appointed/assigned in officiating (eg. Judges, Umpires, Referees).
He probably put all the anger into his throw, but still used the great technique he surely had.
IOC certified Judges and Umpires comprised of Foreigners and Chinese .
India should've named the officials .
🤷
I used to pole vault. Using a pole you’re unfamiliar with really does throw everything off.
I obviously don't know anything about this sport, but shouldn't the pole be standardised?
I'm pretty sure we can engineer a pole with consistent performance.
@TUDORMARCU16
Not a pole vaulter, but used to be a capable open water swimmer, and was involved with other sports teams.
What you say is kinda true, but even if a pole is standardised when first used, sports equipment will wear differently. Each athlete at this level trains their skills to muscle memory, and their equment will wear with that approach. Over time, the athletes become used to their equipment, and they generally get better results with familiar items. You could argue that it would be more fair if everyone used a new pole in competition, but it would also be more costly, and the feats achieved would likely become less impressive, cutting viewership and sponsors. It might also increase injuries. All that is assuming all poles are made identical, but there are differences between poles of different brands, weights, and composition, which one becomes the standard? Rules and inspections, combined with better security at important events should keep things fair, but still let athletes match themselves and their equipment well.
Like how every professional baseball player's bat is custom made for them for optimal performance@daxhopkins7312
@@TUDORMARCU16 You can't standardize it for the same reason you can't standardize the human body...
An example I think may apply are ballet dancers pointe shoes. Mass produced, but everyone has their own ways and methods to break them in. Also being GRP, the materials the poles are made from are not homogenous, so whilst they are made in a uniform manner they will be idiosyncratic, on top of that consider the mental/superstitious factor for top athletes discovering their equipment has been taken/tampered with.
My equipment manager would’ve been fired on the spot
The moment you realize pro wrestling is more legit than the fucking Olympics
Taking a pole that belongs to another lady usually ends with a fight on Jerry Springer.
Underrated comment
I know where I'd hide the pole.
Springerrr
Jerry Jerry Jerry🤣
Thats such an obvious set up its ridiculous 😂
There were SO Many cheating scandals in the bejing Olympics.
The British team was told to go vegetarian as there were meats tampered with that would force a failed drugs test found delivered to team villages int he 2 weeks before the comp
I was thinking that cause the set up was too convenient.
I remember visiting Beijing in 1993 and seeing signs everywhere stating Beijing Olympics 2000 as if that should force the Olympics committee to hold it in Beijing. Fortunately, they didn't.
During the Bejing Olympics. China was also accused of sabotaging other athletes.
cheaters are disgusting and should be banned
Proof?
Yep, ban the Russians from everything. They can't win, so they cheat. That sounds like the republicans.
Oh well. Bye bye USA. Oops, are we supposed to ignore them?
Yelena Isinbayeva was banned from the Rio Olympic for doping.
Once a cheater always a cheater.
@@noone6037Oh stop. There is a reason Russia is banned from the Olympics and many other tournaments. State sponsored doping is a Russian thing.
"Hit the subscribe button"
Bro knew what he was doing
I thought the arrow was giving a hint about where the pole was found.
up- her ass?? XD@@michaelcowanmichaelcowan969
"No. No, i don't think I will..." ~ Captain America.
Did he died?
@@michaelcowanmichaelcowan969 nah
All the people and cameras out there and nothing was revealed 😞
The poles are placed in designated holders, like a locker but without a door or locking mechanism. If it was a mistake for a bad one? It was the only one removed, nobody informed them that it was a problem nor reported it, it was expected prior to being placed in the pole holder and how convenient the poles that everyone can use were even in poorer condition that day and where did they find her pole at? Why did nobody speak up and said hey I removed a pole earlier and placed it over here?
Why am I seeing so many shorts about things going wrong in the Olympics and Isimbaeva being at the center like what’d she do?
Dieter Pohl conducted a poll in Warsaw, asking 1 out of every 10th Pole he met, how to spell pole. His answers are stored in a vault. It's called the Pohl Pole pole poll vault.
I’m sorry about that… honestly, I found out that I made that mistake 4 seconds after uploading this video… it won’t happen again, I promise 🙌🏻
@@boebondno need to apologize. it was just kind of a fun joke. who knew there were so many ways to spell pole?
Is this specific to the North Pole, or do some Pole's have a preference towards the respective poles both North & South? 😂😂😂
@paulgannon7749 you Sir, have done your parents proud, you school proud, your town/city proud, your country proud and your continent proud. Take a bow Sir! 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
People who don’t pole vault really have no idea how crucial your pole is in this world event. I was doing a state qualifier my sophomore year and was on track to qualify, but day of had a complication to where I wasn’t allowed to use that pole. Ended up not even placing
I think pretty much everyone understands that without a pole, this sport is extremely complicated to be succesful in.
It's just like any other personal sports equipment, of course different gear last minute will throw people off especially when competing at the highest level. It's demeaning to think people wouldn't understand if they haven't pole vaulted.
And this is why russia got banned from the olympics
This is a serious debate and there is no place for pole jokes
Man these athletes are so fine
I used to pole vault. Having the right pole that you're used to using is a huge deal. I get that you should be able to use anything, but it does make a huge difference in performance
Edit: 848 likes so far! Nice! Thank you guys for all the likes, comments, and questions!😁 really didn't expect it lol.
As a fellow pole vaulter once, 100% agree
And she could still make some extremely good jumps with any pole it just so happens this was the Olympics so every advantage or disadvantage is huge
ok. as a chairman of YSCA, Youtbe Shorts Commenters Association, I agree and recommend this comment.
@@rahulmaron well thanks lol
@@dylanhernandez3131 facts
The arrow pointing at the butt was subtle 😂
I was looking for this comment
@@rishabhnoob8666 fucking same broooooo hahaha
Lol exactly what I noticed
Using a different pole can be devastating. She and her coaches fault for not watching her pole. As a former pole vaulter, I switched poles in HS, on the advice of a college coach, and I took 3rd vs a sure 1st place at the state meet
That's like having a bike change mid race and the seat is a little too high, stem too long, etc.
So sad after all that work and training
They should either let her redo with her pole. Or do a rematch with just the 2 of them.
It’s been 15 years, she’ll have had another chance at another olympics
They can't and they won't
She was given a choice to dq herself out or use another pole. She chosen the latter hence she consented to perform.
She will just blame the equipment if she failed, and this issue wouldn't surface if she did jumped well.
Lesson learned, it's not to trust no one, but to always carry an extra pole.
She should assume her one pole can break down.
Lmao what?
@@Blitzkit you can bring 5 into the comp, they have minute differences to account for surface, weather, heat, that sort of thing and yiu select the pole you want to use and that's locked in at that point.
The fact that THE pole she selected wasn't there is HUGE.
The fact she wasn't able to jump with an unknown pole that wasn't hers that was essentially here have this one we have laying around.... Is a huge problem
Next time, keep spare poles with your officials, so if it happens, you have others that have been kept safe.
which other sports require your specific equipment to be good at?
Wouldn't be the first time Russia has shown it's "love" for sportsmanship
Cringe. Wouldn't be the first time you hasn't tried to think a little.
someone mentioned Russia - well, everything is clear, they did it 🤡
Honk
Exactly😊 What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
Are you talking about all the doped American athletes... The list of them is endless
@@knudskoubo1090 Proofs and sources of the list? Please provide before gaslighting on the public...
@@knudskoubo1090 You talk like the Russians are unfamiliar with dope in the olympics lol
yes...we all must hit that "subscribe button" 😂🤣😂🤣
It was pointing at that womans butt too😭😂
@@user-mw5nk8ov1e thank you, Captain Obvious.
Ever notice the common theme behind all these scandal videos regarding the olympics. It normally always involves a Russian.
She should've gotten a new turn when her pole was found.
*after the event…
Sure bro
Nyet comrade...🫵@@hdkiller4816
You know the Russians wouldn’t have allowed it! They would have started screaming and throwing a tantrum
No matter how much later, fair is fair.
It’s not *just* the FEI that’s bad, it’s the entire Olympics
too much money and egos involved so things get manipulated. when i watched figure skating many years ago it was so blatant it was sickening
She should have laid on the landing pad and refused to move until her pole was found.
It wasn't theft, it was just a special borrowing operation.
Russians and stealing-in-order-to-win, name a more iconic duo.
Shorts and propaganda is a more iconic one
@@placeholder4988oh you commy 😂
@@placeholder4988 oh no putlers simp is crying
@@rottenkittenparvo you’re proving my point
Russians and war crimes
Sounds like it was strategically placed there, like, if she did hide the pole, why with her own suff??
Because they didn't expect them to search where the Russian was hiding it
@@Ian-mj4pt They aren't 5 year olds. If they are going to steal a piece of equipment they would not hide it with their own shit.
@@Ian-mj4ptThat's not how it works, both are them are clearly being sabotage since no one who risk to hide it in their own locker since there's a possibility that someone will look for it. This is the same when you stole someone phone, like why would u even put the phone in your bag when someone can look at it.
@@MinaTozaki-on9bb lets just ignore russias long standing practice or cheating and murder on foreign soil
dont drink the russian tea in london lol
@@Ian-mj4ptyour comment made my understand why propaganda works so well sometimes
So the pole of the #2 athlete was found in the locker reserved for the #1 athlete. What an amazing coincidence.
"Hit that subscribe button" 🫢
There's a reason why Russia is no longer allowed in the Olympics
Yes because "you can't guarantee their safety" or simply because you are russophobes, Isinbaeva is the greatest female jumper in history, Brazilian wasn't even a candidate for a medal.
Oh yeah when this poor brasilian girl ended at 4.55, and Isinbaeva at 5.03 height.... Sure she could win gold, if not missing pole, with her best result in career 4.85, sure, bad russians, must be banned, cuz they are better and watching competition become boring
Yeah of course, Russians stole the poll and then hid it by their stuff
How clever
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
You are not entirely right, they are still participating, just under non country organisations, without allowing display ruzzian symbolics, but in the ruzzia they are still regarded as ruzzian athletes, and in case of win, still used as pride reasons, boosting ideology of the current regiment...
They have to be banned fully, by passport...
At the Beijing Olympics in 2008, Brazilian pole-vaulter Fabiana Murer would have been a good bet to challenge world record-holder Elena Isinbayeva - that is, if Chinese track-and-field officials hadn’t lost Murer’s pole. Murer entered the competition at 4.45 and was set to attempt 4.55. But the pole she uses for that height was missing. Poles vary in length and flexibility and vaulters select one depending on the height they are jumping, the weather conditions and how many jumps they have already completed. Murer brought 10 poles to the Bird’s Nest arena, but when she went to retrieve the one ideal for 4.55 she found - to her shock - it was missing.
After searching frantically and futilely, a visibly upset Murer was forced to skip 4.55 and go to the next height. She failed three times at 4.65 meters, a mark well below her best - and ended up being bounced out the competition in 10th place.
No one was challenging Isinbayeva that year in July that year she broke the WR at 2 events 5.03 and 5.04m then broke it at the Olympics a few weeks later to 5.05m and won all 3 of the Diamond League events before the olympics where all the best in the world compete.
So basically the organizer screwed her over and booted her even though it's their fault her stuff was missing
KNOWING CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES AND ARE ALLIES
Shout out to Isimbaeva from Brazil.
She was robbed.
If you recall, at the Moscow Olympics during track and field, the Russians would open up the giant doors at either end of the stadium to give their athletes the wind advantage then close them for the other competitors...they have form.
Have them turn up by all means because their antics are always entertaining....just don't allow them to compete.
Pretty sure all the drugs might indicate “form” too. For a country which systematically drugs 15y/o figure skaters in 2022, opening doors and stealing poles is considered perfectly reasonable behaviour…
@@carolinedavis6557knowing the pro athletes in the US can take almost anything it is hilarious
@@toto-yf8tc wouldn’t know, and if they do and get caught, I assume they get banned because that’s what has happened previously. This video is about Brazil, Russia and China though, so not understanding why the US has been brought up?
@@toto-yf8tcyou rlly can’t there’s a bunch of shit that’s banned and athletes get screened regularly. Thousands of careers have been ruined bc of drugging/exposure.
@@alyssahartweckjohnson7989if you say that is not possible, then you have zero ideas of what is going on in sports 😂😂😂 . Ask any athlete if they would do a monthly analysis for 1 year.... you will be surprised that none will agree. The check that they do is 2 months and 1 month before, wile the stay the rest of 8 months split in 2 cicles of juice.
“Before I reveal where the poll was found…”
*arrow points at her ass! 😂😂😂😂😂
I wasn't the only one thinking then. Looking at the comments section not many did
lesson to be learned ladies, when you have a good pole, others will try to take it.
That subscribe button was already pressed in
All i needed to hear was "Beijing Olympics"
You are prejudiced and probably American
And in fierce competition with a Russian....
@@sigmundson It's basically like mentioning any arab country and workers rights in the same sentence
No one at the time was winning against Yelena, so let's not even go there. If Russian officials would have orchestrated something similar it would be Jen Suhr's poles that went missing, because she was the only semi legitimate competition and Yelena still cleared 25 cm more than her in that final. That in itself is an astronomical achievement, Isinbayeva was in a league of her own.
Guess what? A Russian, Svetlana Feofanova, won the bronze medal. Perhaps the Russian cheating was to help ensure that Feofanova got to the medal stand, not necessarily to ensure that Isinbayeva won the gold.
@@johnward2998 Yeah, yeah..... It's always cheating when Russians win, isn't it.
Yelena was winning regardless of the circumstances, she's the all time greatest, Feofanova was almost guaranteed a medal since she was amongst the best 3 in the world for years beforehand. So let's cut the crap, someone from the organizational team misplaced her poles by accident, end of story.
@@user-kl3sl5pp7g Ok Putin, we get it
You do know Yelena has basically been found to be doping and defended the state doping of her country. She was good cause she doped
@@petesmart1983 You do know that the only reason Russian athletes get caught is the current geopolitical situation. Every professional athlete, in every sport, from EVERY country uses substances ( many of them unrightfully banned) to get a competitive advantage.
And FYI, Yelena is the all time greatest, no one has reached anywhere bear 5,05 with or without doping and I'm sure the pharmacological know-how has increased ×100 since she was active. So the b*tches now can only worship at her shrine because she was a phenomenon in her sport.
Beijing? Then they did it intentionally. Similar thing happened to Indian sprinter by the officials there. They yielded when their act was called out with evidence by the Indian officials.
Bro new what he was doing when he directed the follow button to that one very specific spot on the screen
Russia playing dirty at the Olympics is a tale as old as time
The workers misplaced the pole, Russia had nothing to do with this
Like the US plays by the book.....
@@dimvots6729They do for the most part lol. Always with the whataboutism pretty pathetic if you ask me
@@Jasper77 When even the Olympics turn racist. Is it Russian athletes who invaded Ukraine? Then what's the reason to punish them, other than the fact that they are Russian?
@@darkfoxxbunyipoh just eat shot
Russians always Play dirty and sabotage others in sports and then have fucking attitude when others are pointing at their cheating
Russia cheating at the Olympics. Who would have guessed. 😮
It was misplaced by the organizers, Russia had nothing to do with it
@@Aderrol_yeah sure, someone just said something about the one in moscow where organizers gave advantage to their runners, so I feel as if Russia is trying to make their country win to feel superior here
@@Aderrol_ right... And the Boeing whistle blower really did commit suicide 😅
@@Aderrol_sure :D :D :D :D
@@zz4562Sometimes we need to use common sense, why would u even put something you stole on your own thing when there's a possibility that they will find it in there, especially she's a player so which means she's a suspect in hididng it just like how other players is.
Beijing OG was the best game event ever in the entire planet 🎉
Athletics has a large representation of gorgeous women
Russia messing with the Olympics is a classic past time.
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
Bruh whatever country took it definitely didn't store it in their own locker. I think it wasn't the Russians, they would've put it in Brazil's own locker to avoid suspicions. Someone probably tried to blame them.
at this time russia was conducting the biggest doping programme there has ever been. They were cheating in every way they could.
Well they probably weren't thinking that it's in the Russians locker.
They would only have easy access to their own storage area
Also it would have been found if it was in brazils locker
Brazilians really do get shafted in the olympics huh? This and Vanderlei Cordeiro de Lima will haunt me till the day i die
I would HIT that subscribe button for sure!!!!!
Not just Pole Vaulting ... MANY events had similar issues China should near every host the games again.
lol Chinese aren’t even in the top 10, however there’s 3 Russians in top 10. Why would China sabotage one Russia just to let the other one win. What’s more likely 😂
Never* and I could not agree more.
China should never be allowed to remove anything during any event.
@@patkessler4282 and what proof do you have?
Just wait till you see different countries also tamper with equipment 🫨
As soon as I heard Russia I was convinced. All I needed to hear
What would you expect from the ТerorisТ country like ruzzia, fare competition 🤣🤣👍👍 ruzzian only using the sport as a means of РropagandА and Вrainwash of the population, that they are superior, the best, and they are allowed to do anything they want with any country they want... Doesn't it remind Germany between 1935 and 1945?
You nazi or something?
Typical Soviet/Russian sportsmanship
This is just as bad as the vault being 5cm too low in the Sydney Olympics. What the heck is going on with these officials? Seems like more stuff is happening every year, and they screw up a log of things. The pole does sound like it was stolen, though.
Russains cheating? Get outta town.
Russians have nothing to do with it its the event organisers
would you put a stolen thing into your locker? Isinbaeva would've easily win without all these shenanigas. Unless there was a potential #2, that could become #1 after a scandal and it wasn't this brazilian athlete with all respect. It's so easy to manipulate people...
@@dmitrychirkov4206the usual russian mind gymnastics, to bend the obvious. Everywhere someone always trying to frame russians, right? it’s not like they have a culture of cheating and stealing. In russian culture - successful crime is not a crime
The Russian athlete jumped 5m05
Fabiana Murer the Brazilian pole vaulter, cleared 4.85 meters at the 2010 Ostrava Golden Spike competition. This is her personal best jump height ever. In this competition she ended up in 10th.
The silver medalist was a US athlete who jumped 4m80
You don't snatch something and hide it where you can be incrimidated... so someone stole the pole, someone with reasons for it.
sputniks stole it, they're not the smartest people in the world, quite the opposite
That’s how it read also. The missing pole just happened to be in the Russian’s storage area, someone who wouldn’t have any benefit from the putting a competitor down?
Well… Russia has a history of cheating the Olympics…
You don’t steal your neighbors car and put it in your own garage. It was stolen and planted to give Russia the blame.
The only person who actually benefited from that was the American silver medalist, and the Russian and Brazilian girl have the same coach and have a great relationship with each other. And the Russian althlete jumped 30 centimeters higher than the Brazilian athletes best. It’s hilarious how everyone blames the Russians when the only person who benefited was the American silver medalist
Thank goodness it was only a pole, miss placing Novichok would have been harder to hide
Don't forget that Yelena and Maurer were sponsored by Nike
It was taken by the officials and placed next to the russian contestants', for the exact reason you made this video, to cast blame on the russian athlete
Big surprise the russian's cheated at the olympics?!?!?!
We both already know they are gonna cheat this year at the Paris games as well😡😡😡😡
You can't cheat world records dumb....oh wait, a name sounding like Lance Armstrong came to my mind... you're right... "cheater faking whole life " award to American.. big surprise
I blame the Americans
They are doing this things
Kind of sounds like when the Olympics were held in Russia and during the javelin throw competition, big windows were opened to influence the performance of competitors to favor Russia's athlete
Yeah Imagine someone stole your bowling ball for the Tournament.
They found pole in russian locker room. Year surely right. This is exactly what car thieves do, they park stolen cars in front of their house and leave their phone number, full legal name and address on the windshield.