Clever title goes here! Kathril vs Myrel vs Moira Safana

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Komentáře • 96

  • @TenPace
    @TenPace Před rokem +41

    Oh man I love dungeon decks, watching Mat pop off was just magical.

  • @josephmitchell6077
    @josephmitchell6077 Před rokem +7

    The background commanders are heavily slept on imo.

  • @dreddbolt
    @dreddbolt Před rokem +3

    Dungeon decks can really rock the house down. I've had Varis (Silverymoon Ranger) mono-green featuring decent elf support and Ellywick Tumblestrum (not exactly elf ball, but Ezuri puts in work), but I recently sleeved up Safana (Calimport Cutthroat)//Guild Artisan, and it supercharges the treasures, especially with Xorn and Revel in Riches.

  • @HelloWorld-ei2go
    @HelloWorld-ei2go Před rokem +22

    Amazing game. That initiative deck looks sick

  • @bigspagheti4119
    @bigspagheti4119 Před rokem +6

    As a Kathril player, playing buried alive and NOT giving him every single keyword with those three hurt me. With some more experience with the commander or deck tuning, I could definitely see a win coming from that turn alone. Also, as far as your closing statement about reanimation in the deck? Its a nice subtheme, but as you said with the dungeon deck, building around your gimmick tends to be better.

  • @gypsieking3280
    @gypsieking3280 Před rokem +6

    Brutal to finally cast Kathril only to get taken out. That Dungeon deck is nice.

  • @Psychotic6
    @Psychotic6 Před rokem +3

    Wow, that Safana is probably the best dungeon deck i've seen so far!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Před rokem +55

    Bringing Kathril out and not being able to attack right away, being a complete waste... this is why I hate the fact that Ikoria never created haste counters.

    • @Onattamato
      @Onattamato Před rokem +9

      That's why when I built Kathril I had all sorts of ways to grant haste/flash him on someone's end step. Savage Summoning is pretty sweet for that.

    • @jl9363
      @jl9363 Před rokem +4

      ​@@lout-p8372 yaaa, haste is not one of the keywords Kathril can get from its etb trigger. ..sorry.

    • @Zeromus5555
      @Zeromus5555 Před rokem +5

      There's lots of ways to give him Kathril but ya, missed opportunity.

    • @alfonsopeniche5084
      @alfonsopeniche5084 Před rokem +3

      That's why I built tayam instead, more combo potential

    • @fenixmeaney6170
      @fenixmeaney6170 Před rokem +2

      ​@@alfonsopeniche5084 I built both, plus yannik and nikara
      That precon gave me 3 decks

  • @Lykrast
    @Lykrast Před rokem +5

    I was really curious about how Moira would work since I got the Dihada precon, and I'm very happy to see her in action!

  • @christophexie144
    @christophexie144 Před rokem +13

    at 9:46 , Ayara is still phase out, i think Eric keeps Ayara after Farewell. :/

  • @patykaarplegos6282
    @patykaarplegos6282 Před rokem +4

    Love seeing kathril. One of my buddies runs it and it can be nasty. Try Helm of the host in the deck if you haven't got it, makes it a huge problem if it has lifelink and indestructible

  • @P4nzerk93
    @P4nzerk93 Před rokem +1

    I don´t like they way my dungeons of death precon (Sefris of the hidden ways) turned out to be as its mostly chasing ventures and playing high cmc creatures from my graveyard with sefris triggers. Most of the big creatures I have don´t have a common theme so its mostly random big stuff and there is no common theme. The safana initiative looks so fun and it costs about 15 euros to convert the dungeons of death into a safana deck so im happy it worked so well here.

  • @ThePretzelBread
    @ThePretzelBread Před rokem +1

    I've been working on a Safana deck for a while so I'm excited to get some ideas!

  • @BobbyBev95
    @BobbyBev95 Před rokem +2

    Wow, Safana was so awesome. Super cool dungeon and initiative build!

  • @iPhoneeditor
    @iPhoneeditor Před rokem +6

    I built a dungeon deck this week with Hama Pashar, Ruin Seeker and it has some absolutely ridiculous turns doubling (or even tripling) the room effects, especially with mass blinks. Built the deck on a budget of $50 and it's just crazy fun and hits way above it's weight class. Of all the dungeons, the initiative/undercity are especially good. There's a reason white plume adventurer recently got banned in Legacy!

    • @felipearaujodominici3057
      @felipearaujodominici3057 Před rokem

      Would you care to share your decklist, by any chance? 😊

    • @dess8815
      @dess8815 Před rokem

      I did the same I just built her yesterday and my God cloning the Angel dude who ventures off every non token creatures etb is insane the deck just refuses to stop making value lol

    • @iPhoneeditor
      @iPhoneeditor Před rokem

      @@dess8815 Radiant Solar goes HARD. Just gotta mind that if you finish the undercity and the next trigger is a "venture into the dungeon" and not a "take the initiative" you'll have to go into one of the AFR dungeons. I tend to use tomb of annihilation as a group slug at that point and it's a quick dungeon allowing me to get back to the undercity fast.

    • @dess8815
      @dess8815 Před rokem

      @@iPhoneeditor your kinder than me I just dive into mad mage for even more value and another chance to hit a clone or flicker spell or a creature with initiative so that I can keep that value train rolling by the way do you run brago in your deck I find he's a monster when he gets a single trigger off

    • @iPhoneeditor
      @iPhoneeditor Před rokem

      @@dess8815 yep! I have a couple of mass flickers including his ability. It's nuts when he hits. Might give the mad mage dungeon more of a go and see how I like it.

  • @Tongarism
    @Tongarism Před rokem +1

    As someone who built Rilsa Rael not too long ago this video makes me happy. Had a win the other day where I cast a kicked Rite of Replication on Tomb of Horrors Adventurer and then followed that up by casting Phantasmal Image as my second spell. So many dungeon triggers. It consistently performs above its weight class considering how cheap most of the deck is. The ability to swap out the commander for Safana is just icing on the cake.

  • @dustinjolly9769
    @dustinjolly9769 Před rokem +3

    1 minute squad, let's go!

  • @Murgledoo
    @Murgledoo Před rokem +1

    My Safana/Dungeon Delver deck is my favorite deck that I’ve built in a long time. Glad to see her get some play time!

  • @faerie7dragon
    @faerie7dragon Před rokem +2

    Iniative is a way I could encourage people to attack... Sweet deck, Matt.

    • @thetemp7858
      @thetemp7858 Před rokem +2

      Thank you :)

    • @Unstocable
      @Unstocable Před rokem

      Thought of that as soon as I saw this game and now I'm the proud owner of a budgeted version of Matt's list.

  • @Onattamato
    @Onattamato Před rokem +3

    I built Kathril, but ended up taking him apart. Still haven't found my Abzan commander, I'm hoping Thitrog will fit that bill.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar Před rokem

      I'm on a similar boat after retiring my Karador. I've been considering Ixhel.

    • @Canadian33
      @Canadian33 Před rokem

      My Kathril build is a beast. Not super high powered, but it can definitely slap

    • @Onattamato
      @Onattamato Před rokem

      @@Canadian33 Mine either durdled and did jack shit or I got Super Ultra Mega Kathril and just bodied the rest of the table.

    • @backpackhermit
      @backpackhermit Před rokem

      My Tayam, luminous Enigma 3 mana or less deck is my absolute favourite abzan deck ever. Yall should try him out.

  • @varityboba67
    @varityboba67 Před rokem +2

    the wojak soldier and the spooky skellys haha, man i love dungeon delve decks, so much flavour and I like how theyre almost never the archenemy.

  • @blaineallen5297
    @blaineallen5297 Před rokem +3

    Lol why the 2 players keep attacling each other while the player with 60 life sits unharmed lol

    • @t.g.7973
      @t.g.7973 Před rokem +1

      That baffled me as well!

  • @afspeellijstnaruto
    @afspeellijstnaruto Před rokem +3

    Both my rogue dungeon deck led by Rilsa Rael (mostly initiative actually) and my Sefris deck are quite strong actually, and they play completely differerent from each other.
    Sefris = dungeon focus + Graveyard
    Rilsa / Safana (I can switch) = initiative + aggro
    Those dungeons are, in my eyes, free value. And once you finished one, the next few dungeons will be easier for some reason. With Sefris i have managed to run one dungeon 4 time in one turn. And that without Acerak + rooftopstorm. With the latter not being in the deck.
    Also, Kathril is amazing. One of my stronger deck simply due to the amount of graveyard tutors. One BBog and it's over though.

  • @MM-lv7iy
    @MM-lv7iy Před rokem +4

    Know-it-all comment goes here!

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před rokem +4

      Generic apology and promise of doing better (but will likely end up forgetting)!

  • @middknight5202
    @middknight5202 Před rokem

    He also played two lands the turn he cracked the pack. Damn I really liked this game but the misplays hurt so bad

  • @Prisma0000
    @Prisma0000 Před rokem

    Dungeon decks are super fun, great game!

  • @Karmic_Guide
    @Karmic_Guide Před rokem

    Man, the initiative slaps! Love to see dungeon decks

  • @gjones9356
    @gjones9356 Před rokem

    Why is Matt’s dungeon delver card pulsating with the blue in the lower right of its art? Is that a reflection of a light on the foil or something?

  • @germanysmith7752
    @germanysmith7752 Před rokem +1

    How did he play dungeoneer pack that turn? Dungeon descent ETB tapped unless he has the alchemy version. 😅 only other land he had was Dimir aqueduct 🤔

    • @thetemp7858
      @thetemp7858 Před rokem

      I had this deck for like months and I just realised it entered tapped, might remove it from my deck juste because of that, thanks for pointing that out. Also my mistake. (Imagine it's a rogue's passage lmao)

    • @germanysmith7752
      @germanysmith7752 Před rokem +1

      @@thetemp7858 😅idt it was malicious and honestly it’s such a niche card in real time I probably wouldn’t of thought twice but ik there was a reason I hated the card if it came untapped I think it’d be a staple in a lot of decks.. awesome deck none the less

    • @binaanvari1745
      @binaanvari1745 Před rokem

      i kept rewatching this part and was like, what?

  • @MajuGen
    @MajuGen Před rokem +2

    Game Review time:
    "He's not playing the best cards in those colors"
    *Rite of replication and two Praetors*
    Sir how high is your bar for 'best'?

  • @ImperialVersian
    @ImperialVersian Před rokem

    2:59 How did Eric cast Ayara with a land that doesn't generate black mana?

  • @germanyjones2700
    @germanyjones2700 Před rokem

    Daaaamn building the heck outta safana, love that kind of deck. Not running all the dimir staples but all the best cards for that deck like Andrew said.

  • @NT_Escanor
    @NT_Escanor Před rokem

    Title game on point!

  • @newtpondskipper
    @newtpondskipper Před rokem +1

    That dungeon deck was awesome.

  • @middknight5202
    @middknight5202 Před rokem

    Dungeon land comes in tapped he only had aquaduct untapped...

  • @rrraaa32124
    @rrraaa32124 Před rokem

    Was there a reason why you played turn one forest instead of turn one snarl? Just wondering because you mentioned it as a lucky forest

  • @Creature8087
    @Creature8087 Před rokem +1

    Oh lord this makes me almost wanna go this form for dungeons instead of sefris but I love my sefris dungeon engines.

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto Před rokem +1

      I got both Sefris and Rilsa Rael (sometimes I swap for the background due in the Video)
      Sefirs and Rilsa play completely different.
      My 2 cents: Play dimir rogue tribal with initiative, so not focus too hard on the other dungeons like you do with Sefris
      Also, it's super budget friendly to play dimir inititive.

  • @flonaise
    @flonaise Před rokem +1

    Counter spell time my dudes playmate... Need....

    • @thetemp7858
      @thetemp7858 Před rokem

      drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ImweDGl1cy-_EcNcLSuXZiE_zvRn19tn
      Here you go, standard size custom playmat on InkedGaming.

  • @mjharding1984
    @mjharding1984 Před rokem +1

    10/10 dad joke

  • @flaminglimbz
    @flaminglimbz Před rokem

    Man I really want that undercity tracker for my Imoen dungeons' deck, that looks sweet.

  • @harryangel4307
    @harryangel4307 Před rokem +1

    Why is this game dom vs 3? XD

  • @Rabbit3
    @Rabbit3 Před rokem

    Great title 👍

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Před rokem +1

    10:47 Did Mat forget he still had the initiative?
    Anyway, loved that initiative deck. I'm currently building Kamiz with dungeons & monarch, and that's the exact kind of craziness I expect from it.

    • @TheMrShinanigins
      @TheMrShinanigins Před rokem +1

      If I remember the game correctly, he did remember it, it just wasn't narrated?

  • @middknight5202
    @middknight5202 Před rokem

    Mat cast a 3 drop with only two mana

  • @cashkujak7986
    @cashkujak7986 Před rokem

    Can someone please tell me where i can get the playmat Mat uses in this video?

    • @thetemp7858
      @thetemp7858 Před rokem +1

      drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ImweDGl1cy-_EcNcLSuXZiE_zvRn19tn
      Here you go, standard size custom playmat on InkedGaming.

  • @kevinkennedy-8606
    @kevinkennedy-8606 Před rokem

    Andrew why didn’t u swing with ur hasty vigilant lifelinker may I ask? U had that game probably if u gained some life back

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před rokem +1

      What time stamp? If it's Kathril, he doesn't actually gain a haste counter.

    • @kevinkennedy-8606
      @kevinkennedy-8606 Před rokem

      @@MTGMuddstah oops my bad thought he did. I was really worried for a second lol. Great game

  • @oscarandrade2747
    @oscarandrade2747 Před rokem

    where are the red cards :(

  • @Zeromus5555
    @Zeromus5555 Před rokem

    Wtf does WIP mean? I'd like to see your Kathril list...

    • @cjm8836
      @cjm8836 Před rokem

      Work in progress... So presumably it's constantly being changed up.

  • @romannugent7759
    @romannugent7759 Před rokem +1

    Love your content!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, first comment!🤗

  • @mvargasmoran
    @mvargasmoran Před 3 měsíci

    Looks like Myrel does a whole lot of nothing

  • @7someone
    @7someone Před rokem

    Some people are being a bit hasty in their comments.

  • @prowessbjj3764
    @prowessbjj3764 Před rokem

    Wouldn't Kathril have also had haste?

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar Před rokem +2

      Haste was left out of the keyword counter party, and Kathril doesn't list haste as an ability it can get a counter from.

    • @prowessbjj3764
      @prowessbjj3764 Před rokem

      @@DarkEinherjar I guess I should read the card better. Thanks for the correction.

  • @noahjaffe3094
    @noahjaffe3094 Před rokem +1

    Initiative is no joke

  • @jackinthebox1993
    @jackinthebox1993 Před rokem

    I'm sorry, but on turn 9 when you casted buried alive, you could have picked any 3 creatures you wanted and you didn't pick one with haste?

    • @thumper3662
      @thumper3662 Před rokem +1

      Kathril can’t have haste

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar Před rokem +1

      Akroma, Angel of Wrath, had haste. However, haste counters are not a thing, so Kathril can't have it by itself.

  • @Zeromus5555
    @Zeromus5555 Před rokem

    Seems like you have too much ramp in your Kathril. You weren't doing a whole lot...