Savate Chasse VS Karate Side Kick
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2023
- Today I have a few special guests, Professor Nicolas Saignac, @SenseiSeth and @KARATEbyJesse join me talking about side kicks!
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Hard to beat a live class, he had us moving the full 4+ hours
Love your work Kevin. Savate has fascinated me for years being that I love kicks 😊
@@channelofpublicationis really hard to find savate schools better online than nothing
watching jesse bring someone to their knees with just his legs whilst casually talking is nuts
low key think jesse doesn't like kevin.
He is so sharp on his form!!
@@mesa577 Not funny, and definitely not true.
@@KevinLeeVlog where is this dojo located?
@@mesa577idk he just sounds kinda tired
“Touching without being touched” as a fundamental principle especially makes a lot of sense as savate evolved out of sword dueling, as you can’t exactly afford to trade blows with a sword for too long
The vocabulary of escrime is also used as the hit by the point of a rapier is called "touché" which means touched.
It is the coolest thing in the world to me that all my favorite martial arts youtubers I've followed separately for years are now in a Superfriends League and collaborating with each other and furthering the cultivation of martial arts together every week. MORE TEAM-UPS, PLEASE!!!
Let me assemble everyone together soon!
Avengers assemble
0:40 - Jesse's side kick
2:25 - Nicolas's side kick
4:15 - Sparring
5:05 - Seth's side kick
8:15 - Savate concepts
A fantastic crossover. You're the man, Kevin.
Thank you!!
Glad to see how similar savate and karate; plus Jesse’s cameo here is always a great opportunity to get more info
Thank you!!
I love the level of detail from each instructor gives in this.
Thank you!
That Jesse guy, even when he's under the weather, his movement is still sharp.
Yessss!
According to a Jesse's video, okinawan karate high kicks were strongly influenced by french sailors arriving to the Island in early 1900's when they demonstrated Savate to natives martial artists
not sailors. The french army
@@leplombier3272french navy
@@leplombier3272 how do you think the french army arrived in Japan ? by foot ?
@@nicolaspeigne1429Yes, they marched on the sea floor like the undead pirates in PoTC: CoTBP.
Sheesh! Kev is becoming the ultimate martial arts warrior learning from Jesse, Seth, and Prof. Nic, and learnin how to use it in "da streetz" with Icy Mike!
Thank you 🙏
Creating my ultimate form 🤣😂
Such a great video, well put together, great concepts and all around interesting content. Thank you Kevin for this fantastic piece of work 👊🏼
This is awesome! I love these collabs comparing different points of view on similar techniques.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for another great video. Having other experts from different styles as your guests deepens our understanding of martial arts.
Thank you!!
Thank you 🙏
Bill "Superfoot" Wallace talked about using the sidekick to control distance and to make the targeting decision based on how the opponent reacts when you life the knee. (Hope I'm paraphrasing that right.) Jesse did a great interview with him.
Jesse's bounce counter sidekick sort of reminds me of the way some people use the oblique kick in Wing Chun to intercept and break the posture at the knee.
I would love to collaborate with Bill Wallace!
Love these videos with guests, Jessie is so crazy to watch!
Very interesting, thanks for sharing this Kevin.
I also watched Sensei Seth's "I Tried Savate (french shoe fighting)" just some minutes before. And I do remember the vid from Jesse Enkamp about the influence of Savate in Karate.
You guys rock!
for sure this includes Professor Nicolas Saignac!
Thank you for these insights!
Thank you 🙏
Thank you!!!
Sensei Seth's "about the same, right?" Got me in shambles. What a goof.
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Such a good dive into savate and it's features.
Definitely thought provoking.
Wow nice video. It’s a shame arts like Savate and Sanda don’t get that much love? I always admire them.
Jesse’s low chamber kicks are fluid and strong👍🏾. Very similar to TWC chamber kicks, up rooting or breaking the foundation with chamber kicking is very effective when performed properly. Details in some of the Wooden dummy sets.
Oh man. What a treat. I never miss an opportunity to train with Prof Nicolas.
It would be cool to learn savate.
The instructor seems like a cool dude ☺️.
Professor Nicolas is truly amazing! You should go check him out!!
Great video Kevin 🙂. After watching yours and Seth's videos I definitely want to take a Savate class in person. Also thanks for the link I'll check it Professor Nicolas ☺️
Awesome!! Thank you!
Savate kicks with the foot, if kicking the head it’s ok, but if you are kicking the leg or body, it is stronger to flex the foot and aim with the shin.
But savate has shoes on their feet :)
Would be nice you showing more Wing chun kicks, kevin. Amazing content as always
Seth threw a Turning Back Kick there. Heel up, toes down..
you should do videos about kyokushin tricky kicks brazilian kick interrogation point kick, andy hug kakato and tornado kick and mawashi kaiten do gueri but great video
Listening to him was a lot like hearing Bruce Lee to me. Waiting for part 2 already.
Part 2 is gonna be amazing plus more tutorials!
Seth's side kick = a back kick 😂
It was Cool seeing you in the upstate the other day bro
Thank you!! It’s great seeing everyone again!
LOL I totally thought it was part of the class for everyone to wear all black until Seth said that! LOL
Awesome!
Glad to see you are all fans of the best Rugby team in the world, the All Blacks 🇳🇿
Hey Kevin, out of curiosity, what glove color/level of Savate are you?
Currently Yellow glove.
You WARRIOR'S are bringing all the arts back into "ONE ART". The same kicks Jessie Sensei was doing, are also done in Wing Chun. They are called Chi Gerk(Leg Sensitivity), similar to chi sau(Arm/Hand Sensitivity).
Yeah! A lot of Savate low kicks are similar to Wing Chun kicks
The difference between European kickboxing art and karate is the purpose of their application. The initial savate was a brutal boxing incl kicking technique, wich is an art of fencing without a weapon. The purpose of karate was self defense, avoiding a long contact with an opponent (ikken hissatsu - 1 blow, 1 kill). After karate was implemented in Japan, there was a lack of this long contact, which was not spectacular for the audience. And we have today an art of fencing where karate techniques are being used. These techniques have a light contact with the ground and use a long distance for initial fighting (the old ones used a full contact with the ground and a close combat range). So the pure karate is different from so called sports karate. And people should understand the real purpose of each martial art and not blame its techniques, what “will work on the street and what won’t”, because street fights are exaggerated in ppl minds (I can say it as a street fighter in the 90’s, based on traditional Shotokan karate and boxing) and there will work that technique, wich you can perfectly do. Yeah, and you should strike first, when you only feel, that the opponent wants to attack you.
Great video. Holy shit...so much knowledge here.
Thank you!!
Hold up--is Kevin Taiwanese-American? I thought he was from HK for some reason!! Man, there are not many of us out there. I can't believe there is another Taiwanese-American youtuber! Kevin is the second that I know of, the other guy has a tech/history channel.
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@@KevinLeeVlog Where did you get that cool shirt? Now I feel like I need to represent, too!
14 seconds in and sensie seth already said hi mom and then wiped his nose and put the booger on his shorts! Love it! Haha
Honestly though great video kevin. Love the content!
Hahaha!! I was trying to figure out what he was saying! Thank you for pointing it out!! 😂😂😂
I like that you're all friends :)
Great vid
Thank you!!!
Around 1:30 I know thats why Im so excited to see him as a contender for USDC as well as Ranton
8:28 I said in Seth's video I say here, maybe is something similar/enfluenced by Fencing (or sword fencing in general) I see the same in Karate the "parry and hit" if random articles on the Internet are true (we know internet don't lie /s) if Karate was used agaisnt some weapon wield person of deflect and hit would make sense, creating this weird connection and explaining similar technics since we are limited by biomechanics, if we have similar point you end with similar results.
We can add the fact of cultural influence other them sword figthing and fencing is the cloathing, Europens would have a more ruged footware from old styles of pointer shoes and toe reinforced working boots and Japan (you can call me a stupid xeno swine if I am wrong) for some period the footware was more limited to simpler and even barefooted so focusing more in the sole of foot and "hard" parts of it and not in the "shoe" as a weapon
Cheers Kevin. ☘️
Jesse can be pretty intimidating wow
I know right?
That's a true Karateka for you hahaha
Savate has really good moves for managing space plus the cane fighting
As a JKdmD guy, the sport karate side kick is most like a JKD one. I like the karate one and the savate in. I admit Ive done Some little Savate training over the years especially with the chase. But I do think Inprefer it iver the Karate because uts more fluid. The Karate one is a great self defense tool though. Really like it
Karate kicks come from Northen white crane, not Savate. Similar kicks but, not from each other. Same thing how Capoeria has some similar kicks, but isn't from either.
"Using your enemies weight to add to your kick" I call this "antlering" use your limb like a high speed antler to meet the charge. Or using your elbows like "bull horns" and add your body hop momentum or enemies momentum to your bulls horn elbow.
Great point!!!
I like to see professor Nicolas Saignac ⚜
Thank you 🙏
Sweet!
Is it too much to ask for y'all to spar, savate style, to the Indiana Jones theme song?
i love savate yo !!!
Me too!!
Same here 🙏🔥🥊
Damn those low kicks would be amazing to see in a mma fight. Especially the back one
I agree!!
Jon Jones does this all ready
So does Victor Henry
Nic has such great knowledge. I don't think that Kevin or Seth understood (at least in this video) how much Nic has to offer. They are not anywhere near his level of expertise. This was the yellow belt version of what he has to offer. Or in Savate, the Blue Glove ranking. It is a beginner level. Niolas Saignac is an expert and a full contact champion in Savate. He is extremely skilled in Savate and kickboxing. Please look him up and train with him at any opportunity.
Professor Nick is truly amazing and I am fully aware of that! I have been training with him since 2014 and I am still amazed by his skills!
Karete Jesse chopping legs down like trees.
IcyMike’s watching this like “you made a whole video on something that doesn’t work.”
Fr fr
I should had drag him to this seminar 😂
So how you feel about karate
Savate seems to be to Kicking what Boxing is to Punching. I would love to see it against Muay Thai,it can neutralize their kicking technique.
Yep! I agree!
@@KevinLeeVlog
There is a english sport called Shin Kicking,or Purring,you may find interesting,at least in concept.
People have wondered how Buakaw would fare such context.
Jess voice sounds so much deeper😅 without his Mic
waiting till kevin sees this comment...
( good collab bro❤❤)
I see it now! Thank you!
@@KevinLeeVlog no,thank you!
with how much jesse talks historical technique and high concept martial arts, it's easy to forget that he's the real deal, when he applies it so smoothly it's always a bit shocking
The first movements is very wing chun
I agree!!!
A shame not to see Jesse fight in One Championship in both Muay Thai and kickboxing rules! Miss the old days of K-1 Grand Prix.
Shoes off the mat kevin shoes are not allowed on the mat
Typically yes, but those are Savate training shoes. They are made for trainings on the mat. Lol
Gi flapping sound ASMR
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Noto che sono venuti fuori dei concetti che sono alla base delle strategie del Jeet Kune Do
Guro Dan Inosanto told me that Bruce Lee also blended Savate into JKD.
@@KevinLeeVlog yeah! I heard that too in one of his interviews 👍🏻
I think Savate is them peoples that use their foot like a fist? :p
Trying to 🙏
Jesse is has Crispy technique
too bad Jesse didn't come with you. that would have been something
I would have loved that 🙏
Next time!!!
Is he French?
Definitely. The accent is French. ( I’m too)
Professor Nicolas? Yes! He was also a former French Cup champion.
Yes, very French
@@savateonline🤣🤣
Ancestralement le karaté n'avait pas coup de pied, ils se sont inspiré de la savate justement
Karate originally means Chinese hands the meaning has changed for obvious reasons, Karate Father It's Shaolin Kung Fu so Karate kicks come from Shaolin not Savate.
That is actually not confirmed. While Karate did take a lot of it's weapon and hand techniques from Chinese martial arts (not just Shaoling Kung Fu but some other Chinese styles as well) the high kicks (specifically the high ones) seem to come from Savate, Jesse has done a video about it. Plus the Southern Kung Fu styles didn't have high kicks either
Now then, to my knowledge, Karate did have some low kicks before taking stuff from Savate, those may as well come from China. Just like the Souther Kung Fu styles. Karate was mostly about weapon fighting and close quarters combat, not a lot of high kicking in that, right?
Okinawan Karate did some times use high kicks. Those probably were from China, but they weren't being taught in Japan (to my knowledge)
Yup that's true.
Thank you for your excellent content. It seems that 3 types of side kicks exist. Another version is the one of Jeet Kun Do czcams.com/video/Ok3sF-qd8Gg/video.html
Thank you!! According to my teacher, Guro Dan Inosanto. Bruce Lee implement a lot of Savate kicks into Jeet Kune Do.
Jesse said that with no sources at all. I love both martial arts but that a false information . Jesse want to discredit Japanese influence in many videos . In fact japanese army took the the " defense a 4coins (4 corner defence)" from savate but this system dont contain any circular movement . Actually GOJO RYU did bring mawashi before shotokan
In what other videos does he discredit any influence?
I do agree with you though his video was awful, especially the part when he's taking the French military,the wiki he uses for a source does not even mention savate and makes a ton of other assumptions or mistakes.
@@eagle162 the one with "tyson doing Karate" , the one with the kali eskrima , and others .. the video of jesse has no source at all and he deleted one of my comment in december 2020 .
@@eagle162 indeed the french military did influence the Japanese Army woth their training . But not in the sense of Jesse . They adopted "La defense a 4 coins"(4 corners defence) from the bataillon of joinville who used the savate . But in this method hasnt circular strikes .. the kata of Jap Army was inspired by that but with their one techniques. Oss
so weird hearing jesse speak out of character lol
Just a friendly reminder that Jesse Enkamp has ZERO evidence to back up "Karate took kicks from Savate" claim. High kicks in Karate most likely developed at the university karate clubs since they were really into sparring.
There is evidence tho (you could still be right, but it does seem like they come from Savate)