Great deep dive and especially liked how you included measurements of everything! I've had my Fusion for about 3 weeks now and absolutely love it! Vids like this one are few and far between so much appreciate the time you took on this one. Big fan now of channel! The Redcat has definitely gone nuclear!
I've been interested in this particular RC crawler. I've watched several reviews, tests, etc., and I love this truck. The value for what you get is unbelievable! It will complement my tracked TRX4 perfectly!
@@TheShopMiniRChi I have the red cat 1/10th scale ridge runner and I have done a bunch of mods to it and I have this jump when I give it throttle forward and reverse why does it do that and how do I get it to stop, without breaking my bank account? I’ve done things to make it better and it’s running great . I do things a little at a time you know when I see things on your channel. I replace the drive line front and rear on my 1/8 scale red cat ascent cuz they were plastic and it does ad a little more weight to the bottom of it, and put my battery up front above the front wheels to give it a little more weight up front so it don’t flip over backwards so much. It has a little platform up there to put whatever you want on there. I’m planning to get done different tires and wheels on it next, and maybe some brass disk brakes and some brass hex deals for the wheels to set on, well you know what I mean. lol!! Anyway I love how deep you go with your videos cuz I earn a lot from that. I wouldn’t have known to take apart the covers on all the diffs and portals and check for grease if I haven’t had watched your videos. Well take care and I’ll be waiting to hear from you on that jumping forward on my bigger truck I was telling you about ok 10-4 over and out. ……… Brian.
@@brianferguson7466 if your truck is lurching forward, it could be binding some where or you might need to tune your esc. Or you might need to adjust things in your remote (throttle curve or just plain calibrating your throttle end points.) Is it brushed or brushless ?
Glad I could help! It's a fantastic truck. Be sure to show him the video so he can be better informed about it. And yeah, we are lucky to have some awesome scenery!
Another great deep dive Ken! Big fan my man, keep up the good work! I think my favorite thing is just how clean and well put together everything is! Definitely glad I purchased this beast! "The Redcat has gone nuclear!"
Love the video because you took it deep down and explored and explained everything about the truck. I bought one but haven't tested yet high hopes for it
Open diffs on the rear are better for turning radius. The rear wheels experience a greater difference in RPM while cornering than the front two wheels.
I keep saying your deep dives are good. keep them going; these are the only thorough ones I can ever find. Things I'd love to discuss: does the CMS with that geometry and the lowered motor really perform better than the soa you could get with the original ascent that you can also add a fusion to? is it still a reverse mullet? is that panhard preventing driver side full compression compared to passenger?
So, I dont have the original ascent, so I dont know if the 4 link w/ SOA is better than this setup. I assume it would be slightly better with the weight of the servo on the axle. But, depending on the cop rules or class, you would get more points for going CMS... some also just prefer the "scale" aspect of CMS Adding the Fusion SE is $80, plus what ever it costs to 4 link and convert to SOA. Its all portals if that's what you are asking about the "reverse mullet". No straight axle so no mullet. The panhard doesn't touch at all. You get full compression
Thanks Ken! Sure wish Redcat would do this rig but at SCX24 scale!!!! IMO, Axial and others schit the bed with 1/24th RTR's because they were leaning too far to toy grade. This looks to perform very well enough that it could be taken to a local comp or fun crawl gathering and not be useless. Nothing dissuades folks more than disappointment and not being able to joint in the fun without being and expert or rich. The SCX24 is just to compromised. 24th scale is such an awesome, take everywhere size and run inside the home to boot. Should be so much more than it is. Fingers crossed Redcat jumps in and breathes new life into 24th scale!
@@TheShopMiniRCYep. I just find the SCX24 size to be a good size. Some others are a fair big bigger and aren't as nice to run on a course made for the SCX24's. I worry "1/18th" is going to knock 1/24th out and it's going to fade away.
Man your videos are incredible especially someone new to the hobby like myself!! I have watched so much of your content Man quick question im new to this rc stuff literally couple weeks 🙏🏽 been looking at all your videos!! I just got the new ascent fusion got injora aluminum beadlocks and im gonna be running the stock tires that come on the ascent they are 4.75 OD and i got both silicone inserts from injora the blues and greens Now i cant decide what combo to do or should i just run the timtins witch are basically the prolines knockoffs in all 4 wheels Also heard of people running the silicone soft greens up front and the blue inserts in rear Based on Weight bias of the vehicle is 60F/40R So i dont know what u think will work better in my particular setup soft silicone greens,medium blues or the dual stage timtins foams ????
Hilarious, I am about to post a video showing the new Injora inserts on my fcx10 tomorrow or Saturday. I went with the super softs in front and softs in rear. The inserts are fantastic. Also, huge thanks for the compliments. I am humbled and honored that they have helped you out!!
@@TheShopMiniRC thanks buddy u also helped me so much on my first little crawler the fms scx18 lc80 Have u heard anything good on the Injora comp pins ? Or the krakens ?? Thinking about leving the stock tires and wheels and on the ascent and doing a separate setup with the injora comp pins running green silicone inserts and injora bead locks Also what u mainly recommended I tighten or lock tight or double check on my ascent fusion?? Thanms buddy your so helpful man I would ship u my fusion just so u could do everything u did to yours man and i would pay u jajajaj
I’m just waiting for mine 🇬🇧 from Redcat just landed airport London 🇬🇧 Probably the first one over here, a lot of people here put of by the taxes and shipping, so will be rare over here. How many do you think they will make all together going off the Gen8 special addition?
Here is an 850 3s: amzn.to/3JiILWI and a 1500 3s: amzn.to/3U0TQ3w. If you are trying to do Hard Lines, use the 850 (smaller and lighter), if you plan on trailing a little, 1500. ;-) Also I added the links to the video description.
@@waynoo774 it could. You could always put the internal springs inside the shocks to limit their travel. Is there a reason you would want to move them down a hole?
Funny enough.. this literally happened on Easter Sunday. I was letting some of the nephews bash it around a tad and sure enough, driveshaft came out and it was the pinion .
@TheShopMiniRC man, that sucks, too. I was lucky enough to get the heads up from a few posts and a video I saw before mine even arrived, so I was definitely on top of those Loctite points. Thankfully, I I caught those, or I'm sure mine would be out for a while, being all that is on backorder 😅
I regret buying the overhyped first one. Needing a lot more investment to be any good. Not being cheap at the start for sure as needing to import one. With this one out only a few months after that… I feel robbed as a customer and regret my buy even more. Won’t be jumping on any new redcat again in the future. Dotnt mind spending my hard earned money on my hobbies. However this should have been the first and only one. Redcat should have done there homework first time around.
I totally disagree. The first ascent is still fantastic for the price. Companies are ALWAYS releasing new and improved versions of products. If this frustrates you then the hobby is likely not going to be for you. It’s constantly evolving and there is always “the next new thing”.
@@TheShopMiniRC I totally disagree. First, payed way more then its US release price to get one. Second. No, rc companies for sure do not always bring improved versions from the same car. And when, not a few months after first release. Hope more CZcamsrs and sellers get a bit more critical on free stuff they receive for “testing/free advertising”. Or sell. Probably most of them won’t. People need to stay aware of that. I forgot.
@@franktl3423 what? Getting review product has nothing to do with what I am saying. Companies constantly make new products. Especially the smaller, more aggressively growing companies. Do you get upset when you buy a new tv and then 3 months later a better one comes out? What about computer parts? RC is the same. This new ascent is an improved version. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t be so mad. Also, just because you paid more than the MSRP doesn’t mean the truck is bad. You chose to pay an inflated price and that’s not the truck or the companies fault. Also whether I got this truck “for free” or paid for it, my opinion is the same. Of note, I put probably 7-8 hours of work into this video… soooo pretty sure even if I didn’t pay for this truck, it wasn’t “free”
I can understand your frustration, Frank. It is disheartening when that happens. But Ken is also correct. It happens with all products. We roll the dice. Sometimes we win, sometimes we don't. And for companies, it's a balance game. Bring out a product and hit a lower price point so more folks can enter the hobby at least. And when you are a beginner, it can be hard to just jump right into going full mod-o-rama without having enough time and experience to go with it. But it's also smart business to come out with 'advanced' versions of models. Give those with a bit more budget to step up right away and jump a section of the learning curve, regarding working on knowledge. Also gives those that are experienced an option to buy something that will be closer to their level of abilities, but they don't want yet another project to spend their finite hours in the day on. This is where Axial and other 1/24th scale companies F'd up. SCX24 scale rigs are all for the most part, not very capable and need quite a few mod's and dollars thrown at them. Not good for a total new guy. They should have actually done light Redcat has done and came out with an 'Advanced' RTR so there was a choice. I'm not really super into the wrenching side of the hobby, so an already reasonably capable RTR is going to appeal to people like me that see the value in paying a bit more for a rig that is actually ready to keep up with friends right out of the box. I will agree, however, with you that disappointing customers by coming out with a 'better' version only a hand full of months later is dangerous for the reasons you expressed. IMO, better to introduce both at the same time and give a broader customer base a choice that suits their budget or wants. BUT often the accounting dept or greedy CEO's call the shots. They want to launch as soon as a product is ready (or not ready as we've seen so many times with RC stuff!) So the 'basic' Accent was likely ready to go and got the shove. And I see that logic as well. They got bills to pay and aren't multi-billion dollar companies, so things can be tight. Best advice would be either build up you're rig and enjoy it as a unique to you build to be proud of. Or sell it to fund a new Fusion or something else. But don't stress yourself about it. Not worth the negative health points! ;) Best wishes! Bert the Weldor
Fair enough! But I will say, the frame is very ridged. Carbon fiber is super light and very strong. You also see carbon fiber in high end sports cars. ;)
Great deep dive and especially liked how you included measurements of everything! I've had my Fusion for about 3 weeks now and absolutely love it! Vids like this one are few and far between so much appreciate the time you took on this one. Big fan now of channel! The Redcat has definitely gone nuclear!
Thanks a ton! We put a LOT of work into our videos. I hope you continue to watch.
I've been interested in this particular RC crawler. I've watched several reviews, tests, etc., and I love this truck. The value for what you get is unbelievable! It will complement my tracked TRX4 perfectly!
100%
@@TheShopMiniRChi I have the red cat 1/10th scale ridge runner and I have done a bunch of mods to it and I have this jump when I give it throttle forward and reverse why does it do that and how do I get it to stop, without breaking my bank account? I’ve done things to make it better and it’s running great . I do things a little at a time you know when I see things on your channel. I replace the drive line front and rear on my 1/8 scale red cat ascent cuz they were plastic and it does ad a little more weight to the bottom of it, and put my battery up front above the front wheels to give it a little more weight up front so it don’t flip over backwards so much. It has a little platform up there to put whatever you want on there. I’m planning to get done different tires and wheels on it next, and maybe some brass disk brakes and some brass hex deals for the wheels to set on, well you know what I mean. lol!! Anyway I love how deep you go with your videos cuz I earn a lot from that. I wouldn’t have known to take apart the covers on all the diffs and portals and check for grease if I haven’t had watched your videos. Well take care and I’ll be waiting to hear from you on that jumping forward on my bigger truck I was telling you about ok 10-4 over and out. ……… Brian.
@@brianferguson7466 if your truck is lurching forward, it could be binding some where or you might need to tune your esc. Or you might need to adjust things in your remote (throttle curve or just plain calibrating your throttle end points.)
Is it brushed or brushless ?
Ty for the review 👍🏻, my spouse is/was interested in this rc... At the end I was more mesmerized by the landscape/scenery; what a beautiful area ❤️
Glad I could help! It's a fantastic truck. Be sure to show him the video so he can be better informed about it. And yeah, we are lucky to have some awesome scenery!
@@TheShopMiniRC I sent it/shared it thru fb messages. Lol
Great details on PRE-use prep!Trying to decide what crawler to buy(total NUBEE here).Thanks alot!🤔👍✌🇨🇦
No problem 👍
Another great deep dive Ken! Big fan my man, keep up the good work! I think my favorite thing is just how clean and well put together everything is! Definitely glad I purchased this beast! "The Redcat has gone nuclear!"
It’s soooooo clean. Thanks for watching the whole video ;)
Always really appreciate your content!
I wonder when someone is going to cut up an Ascent 18 body to look like this one..?
Some have already in our Redcat ascent 18 Facebook group.
@@TheShopMiniRC oh nice, I'll have to check that out.
I've been thinking about getting a body to chop up, maybe pinch the front too.
Hey loved this vid on the fusion I just got mine! I just ran those same lines yesterday in a comp at RRE!
Thanks for all your info!
Thanks a ton for watching. I hope you're loving yours too!
Open front diff to turn, locked up to climb. Redcat has gone Nuclear! What a release! I'm seeing a red ascent body on top or to add the bed.
Personally, i like the bedless look!
Love the video because you took it deep down and explored and explained everything about the truck. I bought one but haven't tested yet high hopes for it
Glad you enjoyed the video! You’re gonna love it!
1:04:50 Thanks for risking it to bring us this footage. Definently a sketchy place, I've taken a fall or two there.
The redcat has gone nuclear. ⚠️
Thanks a ton for watching till the end. Def have to be careful up there.
Bro your videos cost me sooooo much damn money. Lol. You Def sell it.
I’m just tryin to show cool shit.
Love the truck so far from what I have seen it is almost comp ready other than a few mods/ upgrades
It’s a blast for sure!!!
First class review 👍🏻
Thanks a ton for the compliment.
Open diffs on the rear are better for turning radius. The rear wheels experience a greater difference in RPM while cornering than the front two wheels.
makes sense, kinda what we were thinkin'!
Open front diff to turn, locked to climb, though with overdrive on RC rigs and/or dig... locked up turns fine
@@samuelmeigs yeah. I understand all that. The question was just “is it better to un lock the front diff or the rear diff fir better steering”
I keep saying your deep dives are good. keep them going; these are the only thorough ones I can ever find.
Things I'd love to discuss: does the CMS with that geometry and the lowered motor really perform better than the soa you could get with the original ascent that you can also add a fusion to?
is it still a reverse mullet? is that panhard preventing driver side full compression compared to passenger?
So, I dont have the original ascent, so I dont know if the 4 link w/ SOA is better than this setup. I assume it would be slightly better with the weight of the servo on the axle. But, depending on the cop rules or class, you would get more points for going CMS... some also just prefer the "scale" aspect of CMS
Adding the Fusion SE is $80, plus what ever it costs to 4 link and convert to SOA.
Its all portals if that's what you are asking about the "reverse mullet". No straight axle so no mullet. The panhard doesn't touch at all. You get full compression
Wait.. whaaa… this isn’t a mini rig? This is sweet tho. Redcat is owning 2024 so far with their recent releases imho.
I know I know!!! lol. Just too good to not show! ;)
Thanks Ken! Sure wish Redcat would do this rig but at SCX24 scale!!!! IMO, Axial and others schit the bed with 1/24th RTR's because they were leaning too far to toy grade. This looks to perform very well enough that it could be taken to a local comp or fun crawl gathering and not be useless. Nothing dissuades folks more than disappointment and not being able to joint in the fun without being and expert or rich. The SCX24 is just to compromised. 24th scale is such an awesome, take everywhere size and run inside the home to boot. Should be so much more than it is. Fingers crossed Redcat jumps in and breathes new life into 24th scale!
100% hoping something similar comes out at the 24 or 18 (Id prefer a 24). Furitek tries to make some higher end RTRs.
@@TheShopMiniRCAnd hopefully at, as I call it, "SCX24 scale", not the rather oversized "1:24" some manufacturers do. Fingers crossed!
@@wingnutbert9685 I mean, to be fair, even the scx24 is 1/20-1/22
@@TheShopMiniRCYep. I just find the SCX24 size to be a good size. Some others are a fair big bigger and aren't as nice to run on a course made for the SCX24's. I worry "1/18th" is going to knock 1/24th out and it's going to fade away.
@@wingnutbert9685 I agree. I wish all the minis were 1/20 to 1/24 size.
I think everyone went for the descent when that came out and got lots of loot in to it only a phew reviews out at the min
It’s good.
Man your videos are incredible especially someone new to the hobby like myself!! I have watched so much of your content
Man quick question im new to this rc stuff literally couple weeks 🙏🏽
been looking at all your videos!!
I just got the new ascent fusion got injora aluminum beadlocks and im gonna be running the stock tires that come on the ascent they are 4.75 OD and i got both silicone inserts from injora the blues and greens
Now i cant decide what combo to do or should i just run the timtins witch are basically the prolines knockoffs in all 4 wheels
Also heard of people running the silicone soft greens up front and the blue inserts in rear
Based on Weight bias of the vehicle is 60F/40R
So i dont know what u think will work better in my particular setup soft silicone greens,medium blues or the dual stage timtins foams ????
Hilarious, I am about to post a video showing the new Injora inserts on my fcx10 tomorrow or Saturday. I went with the super softs in front and softs in rear.
The inserts are fantastic.
Also, huge thanks for the compliments. I am humbled and honored that they have helped you out!!
@@TheShopMiniRC thanks buddy u also helped me so much on my first little crawler the fms scx18 lc80
Have u heard anything good on the Injora comp pins ? Or the krakens ??
Thinking about leving the stock tires and wheels and on the ascent and doing a separate setup with the injora comp pins running green silicone inserts and injora bead locks
Also what u mainly recommended I tighten or lock tight or double check on my ascent fusion??
Thanms buddy your so helpful man
I would ship u my fusion just so u could do everything u did to yours man and i would pay u jajajaj
Or the kraken claws from injora
I’m just waiting for mine 🇬🇧 from Redcat just landed airport London 🇬🇧 Probably the first one over here, a lot of people here put of by the taxes and shipping, so will be rare over here.
How many do you think they will make all together going off the Gen8 special addition?
I’m getting trill beadlocks 2 black 2 blue when back in stock
No idea of the production numbers. You’re definitely going to love it though!!!
Well Ken, you're pretty fortunate. It looks to me like there is no shortage of places to crawl
I indeed am. But I did live in FL for 17 years and there def aren’t a lot of good places to crawl there.
Oops!NUCLEAR !😁👍✌🇨🇦
Hahaha thanks a ton for watching the whole video!
What battery do you reccomend ? I just bought truck and will be here in a few days. Need to find the right battery for it.
Here is an 850 3s: amzn.to/3JiILWI and a 1500 3s: amzn.to/3U0TQ3w. If you are trying to do Hard Lines, use the 850 (smaller and lighter), if you plan on trailing a little, 1500. ;-)
Also I added the links to the video description.
What would it do if you moved the rear shock down a whole on the shock tower ?
Raise the truck some.
Would it course the back to lift up much on a descent?
As you can probably tell I’m a newbie 😆
@@waynoo774 it’s all good! We all were at one point.
@@waynoo774 it could. You could always put the internal springs inside the shocks to limit their travel.
Is there a reason you would want to move them down a hole?
Be sure to Loctite the shite out of the axle pinion gears, as well. Been seeing many of those backing out...
Funny enough.. this literally happened on Easter Sunday. I was letting some of the nephews bash it around a tad and sure enough, driveshaft came out and it was the pinion .
@TheShopMiniRC man, that sucks, too. I was lucky enough to get the heads up from a few posts and a video I saw before mine even arrived, so I was definitely on top of those Loctite points.
Thankfully, I I caught those, or I'm sure mine would be out for a while, being all that is on backorder 😅
@@OkieDokieBoi well, thankfully nothing actually broke, just the screw in the pinion backed out. Simple open up and loctite and put back.
@@TheShopMiniRC yessir, definitely not to bad a deal
Is Redcat a USA company? We cant get them in the UK....grumble
It is a us company. :-/ sorry it’s hard to get. Maybe ask a local hobby store if they can special order one?
Are you from Co? Looks very familiar where u are
I sure am! That’s Red Rocks Elementary. ;)
Yessir! Hope to see you around one day!
I regret buying the overhyped first one. Needing a lot more investment to be any good.
Not being cheap at the start for sure as needing to import one. With this one out only a few months after that…
I feel robbed as a customer and regret my buy even more. Won’t be jumping on any new redcat again in the future.
Dotnt mind spending my hard earned money on my hobbies. However this should have been the first and only one.
Redcat should have done there homework first time around.
I totally disagree. The first ascent is still fantastic for the price. Companies are ALWAYS releasing new and improved versions of products. If this frustrates you then the hobby is likely not going to be for you. It’s constantly evolving and there is always “the next new thing”.
@@TheShopMiniRC I totally disagree. First, payed way more then its US release price to get one.
Second. No, rc companies for sure do not always bring improved versions from the same car. And when, not a few months after first release.
Hope more CZcamsrs and sellers get a bit more critical on free stuff they receive for “testing/free advertising”. Or sell.
Probably most of them won’t. People need to stay aware of that. I forgot.
@@franktl3423 what? Getting review product has nothing to do with what I am saying.
Companies constantly make new products. Especially the smaller, more aggressively growing companies. Do you get upset when you buy a new tv and then 3 months later a better one comes out? What about computer parts? RC is the same.
This new ascent is an improved version. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t be so mad.
Also, just because you paid more than the MSRP doesn’t mean the truck is bad. You chose to pay an inflated price and that’s not the truck or the companies fault.
Also whether I got this truck “for free” or paid for it, my opinion is the same. Of note, I put probably 7-8 hours of work into this video… soooo pretty sure even if I didn’t pay for this truck, it wasn’t “free”
I can understand your frustration, Frank. It is disheartening when that happens. But Ken is also correct. It happens with all products. We roll the dice. Sometimes we win, sometimes we don't. And for companies, it's a balance game. Bring out a product and hit a lower price point so more folks can enter the hobby at least. And when you are a beginner, it can be hard to just jump right into going full mod-o-rama without having enough time and experience to go with it. But it's also smart business to come out with 'advanced' versions of models. Give those with a bit more budget to step up right away and jump a section of the learning curve, regarding working on knowledge. Also gives those that are experienced an option to buy something that will be closer to their level of abilities, but they don't want yet another project to spend their finite hours in the day on. This is where Axial and other 1/24th scale companies F'd up. SCX24 scale rigs are all for the most part, not very capable and need quite a few mod's and dollars thrown at them. Not good for a total new guy. They should have actually done light Redcat has done and came out with an 'Advanced' RTR so there was a choice. I'm not really super into the wrenching side of the hobby, so an already reasonably capable RTR is going to appeal to people like me that see the value in paying a bit more for a rig that is actually ready to keep up with friends right out of the box.
I will agree, however, with you that disappointing customers by coming out with a 'better' version only a hand full of months later is dangerous for the reasons you expressed. IMO, better to introduce both at the same time and give a broader customer base a choice that suits their budget or wants. BUT often the accounting dept or greedy CEO's call the shots. They want to launch as soon as a product is ready (or not ready as we've seen so many times with RC stuff!) So the 'basic' Accent was likely ready to go and got the shove. And I see that logic as well. They got bills to pay and aren't multi-billion dollar companies, so things can be tight.
Best advice would be either build up you're rig and enjoy it as a unique to you build to be proud of. Or sell it to fund a new Fusion or something else. But don't stress yourself about it. Not worth the negative health points! ;)
Best wishes!
Bert the Weldor
@@wingnutbert9685 great opinion sir!
Looks cool, but nit a fan of carbon fiber frames. Like that c channel or machined aluminum. Carbon reminds me of drones or aircraft. Just saying...
Fair enough! But I will say, the frame is very ridged. Carbon fiber is super light and very strong. You also see carbon fiber in high end sports cars. ;)