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  • Suppose we make an algorithm that implements general intelligence as well as the brain. What could that system do?
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  • @stribika0
    @stribika0 Před 5 lety +105

    Being as good as the best human at every task is kind of superintelligent in itself. It's like the best scientists and engineers, but in every field. It doesn't have to talk to specialists. It doesn't have to buy anything, because it can make those things, and better. It probably wouldn't have to wait a year until the better chips come out.

    • @jeremybuckets
      @jeremybuckets Před rokem +2

      @Пётр Бойков yes, but it's possible that superhuman depth of intelligence would emerge from superhuman breadth of intelligence. "Breadth of intelligence" is not a *perfect* way to analyze the function of a corporation, it's just the best one available if you're trying to force the AGI comparison. A team of lots of humans don't synthesize information as efficiently as a single person would if they had all the skills themselves. A team of humans cooperates at the bumbling speed of natural language whereas an AGI combines all of its competencies at, essentially, the speed of light. Additionally, for obvious reasons, no corporation has ever tried collecting every expert in every field just to see what might happen if they all get in the same room together. We have no idea what might emerge from that synthesis.

  • @EpicWink
    @EpicWink Před 6 lety +390

    I am happy now that I know I am a superhuman when I hold a calculator
    Unfortunately, I'm in the presence of gods when other humans run around with mobile phones

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie Před 6 lety +22

      Laurie O you should then be glad that the mortality rate of people holding calculators is lower than the mortality rate of people holding mobile phones.

    • @sk8rdman
      @sk8rdman Před 6 lety +6

      More like idiots with god-like tools.

    • @the1exnay
      @the1exnay Před 5 lety +24

      Smartphones have made us all demigods. But when everyone's a demigod- who cares.
      Worship me for i can summon the entirety of human knowledge from anywhere- oh wait so can everyone. Still useful, but less fun.

    • @adamfreed2291
      @adamfreed2291 Před 5 lety +13

      When everyone's super, no one is.

    • @chrisw7347
      @chrisw7347 Před 4 lety +2

      @@sk8rdman "Idiots" suggests that the stupid are the most likely to be armed with the most powerful technology. But this isn't how natural selection works in human social hierarchies. Those who will wield god-like tools will be the most successfully psychopathic(charming, domineering, callous, manipulative, deceptive, self-absorbed, etc). The future is essentially like real life representations of the god of the Old Testament running around and manipulating the world to suit their needs with technology indistinguishable from magic. You won't know what hit you in the same way a Roman peasant didn't know they were being stupefied by lead saturated water from the Roman aqueduct while the rulers schemed for conquest.

  • @mehashi
    @mehashi Před 6 lety +117

    I love the Ukelele "Harder better faster stronger" :p
    Please release all your crazy Uke' ditties at some point ^.^
    Great video as ever!

  • @Nellak2011
    @Nellak2011 Před 5 lety +146

    "The software developer that can percieve data directly without converting to symbols without visually reading it. And is about as smart as the smartest developers."
    Basically an Assembly programmer in a nutshell..

    • @huckthatdish
      @huckthatdish Před 5 lety +37

      Connor Keenum and we know they aren’t real humans, looks like we already have AGI

    • @Nellak2011
      @Nellak2011 Před 5 lety +30

      @@huckthatdish Exactly. No Human can learn Assembly, it's obviously too hard. lol
      # WakeupSheeple

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys Před 4 lety +19

      -looks up from writing assembly on an old 8 bit microcomputer¬
      hmmh? Did someone say something?
      Eh. Probably not important. ~goes back to pointless nostalgia coding-

    • @Deserthacker
      @Deserthacker Před 4 lety +12

      @@Nellak2011 Strangely, I only remember "fever dreams" of the time when I was allegedly taught assembly in university. It's definitely aliens.

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Před 4 lety +19

      Assembly uses lots more symbols to represent simple concepts than high level languages.

  • @andytroo
    @andytroo Před 6 lety +5

    thumbs up just for the 'general intelligence has to be parallelizable, because the human mind has to be'

  • @artemonstrick
    @artemonstrick Před 6 lety +182

    This is THE best channel on YT right now covering AGI topics.

    • @bing0bongo
      @bing0bongo Před 4 lety +13

      Still the best 2+ years later :]

    • @phisicoloco
      @phisicoloco Před 4 lety +3

      @@bing0bongo Still 1 month later

    • @AbsaluteWreckage
      @AbsaluteWreckage Před 3 lety +6

      @@phisicoloco still some time later

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade Před 2 lety +4

      And still...

    • @ddingopants
      @ddingopants Před rokem +3

      @@inthefade Still.
      Might continue until AGI, either because alignment is solved and can explain itself better, or because Robert has been Roko's Basilisked.

  • @marouaneh175
    @marouaneh175 Před 6 lety +161

    Another thing is that AGI will probably communicate at eventually many gigabytes per second, the equivalent of reciting the entire english Wikipedia to your friend in less than a minute. AGI won't have to deal with many languages each with arbitrary rules and meanings being lost in ambiguous terminology and translation errors. To solve hard problems, humans always cluster together in small teams, and structures of multiple teams, all the way to the community that communicates with research papers taking months to publish. Imagine a thousand Einstein level AGI working on physics problems together in perfect instantaneous communication.

    • @13thxenos
      @13thxenos Před 6 lety +18

      Imagine the Manhattan project with a thousand Einstein level AGI working on it together in perfect instantaneous communication.

    • @iwikal
      @iwikal Před 6 lety +43

      My guess is, if you have two AGI, and they are decide to cooperate, you essentially get one AGI with double the brainpower. That's how efficiently they could communicate.

    • @busTedOaS
      @busTedOaS Před 6 lety +18

      Working as a group has complications besides bandwidth. Each member sees a different part of the same problem (otherwise we're just adding redundancy), so they will all come up with different solutions, too. At the very least you need a mechanism for consensus, and what tells us this won't be just as messy as it is for humans? We have not solved collective decision making at all, in fact we are hoping for AGI to help us with that.
      How many scientific breakthroughs have been made by a large group of scientists, and how many were made by a single visionary? The answer should make you think.

    • @aidenbrooks4859
      @aidenbrooks4859 Před 6 lety +22

      The AGIs would not discriminate between information "they" found, or that "someone else found". They wouldn't really have biases the way humans do. Thus, if information is shared freely amongst the AIs, at some point they will all collectively have enough of the information to agree. They can just continuously share information with one another until agreement is found. This could slow it down, but it won't break it.

    • @NathanTAK
      @NathanTAK Před 6 lety +5

      Strictly, a dump of the entirety of Wikipedia- including all the history, which is relatively important to the whole shebang- is 10 TB (and I don't know if that even includes images, or whether they matter); to recite 10 TiB in 1 minute, you'd need to communicate at 170 GiB/s (> several)

  • @NathanTAK
    @NathanTAK Před 6 lety +75

    ...I'm jealous of computers now.
    Time to get absurd brain implants.

    • @andreyrumming6842
      @andreyrumming6842 Před 4 lety +4

      Sounds like a good idea, until you look at Dr Who's Cybermen

    • @RokasmIgnasPetru
      @RokasmIgnasPetru Před 4 lety +3

      Deus ex!

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Před 4 lety +4

      Neuromancer

    • @anonanon3066
      @anonanon3066 Před 3 lety +1

      well boy, do i have a surprise for you

    • @AtticusKarpenter
      @AtticusKarpenter Před rokem

      Thats the idea, why just create all-powerful AI and remain primitive hoomans, if you can improve your own hardware at the same time as AGI
      (but we need a lot of neuroscience for this, so far the brain design is too weird)

  • @GodOfReality
    @GodOfReality Před 3 lety +14

    There's also a very significant point that perfect memory is essentially the same as super intelligence. An AGI that can spend a few hours/days reading all open source code in existence, and then it'll start to update itself, will do so with perfect recall of all code to ever exist. Which means it will never really make mistakes.

  • @benjaminbrady2385
    @benjaminbrady2385 Před 4 lety +32

    It's time to overclock the meat

    • @RyanBissell
      @RyanBissell Před 4 lety +3

      The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija Před 6 lety +147

    *Clapping intensifies* Thanks Rob, great video

  • @LoneStarVII
    @LoneStarVII Před 6 lety +76

    I like your humor.

  • @Horny_Fruit_Flies
    @Horny_Fruit_Flies Před 4 lety +7

    "That completes the circuit and the process can go along at a reasonable speed again"
    Nice burn of our nervous system.

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames Před 4 lety +17

    6:17 Looking at an image and figuring out if it has a traffic light in it or not. Got 'em.

    • @Kishmond
      @Kishmond Před 4 lety +1

      That's what I thought too, but are computers as good as humans at image recognition? I don't think they are yet.

    • @imwacc0834
      @imwacc0834 Před 4 lety

      I said driving a car... but I guess at a base level, it's the same thing.

    • @raspberryjam
      @raspberryjam Před 4 lety

      @@Kishmond they can be. like most ai it's very narrow but the point is its been done

    • @eragon78
      @eragon78 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Kishmond not generalized no, but for certain trained data sets yes.
      Computers cannot recognize generalized images as well as humans. But if they are trained specifically to recognize specific things, they can do it as well as humans and better. And in THESE cases they are much faster than humans at doing it too.

  • @zhangalex734
    @zhangalex734 Před 3 lety +2

    Imagine living quarantine, but in super slow motion because you can think in 10x....

  • @Yezpahr
    @Yezpahr Před 4 měsíci +3

    Too bad you stopped using this channel. The world needs you.

  • @thepurityofchaos
    @thepurityofchaos Před 4 lety +9

    That moment when you managed to simultaneously process both ears separately by using both hemispheres of your brain

  • @davidwestwoodharrison
    @davidwestwoodharrison Před 6 lety +4

    "Parallellizable Algorithm" is my new favourite pair of words.

    • @mrpedrobraga
      @mrpedrobraga Před 3 lety

      ParAllelgollirizathmble is what you mean

  • @AvidThinking
    @AvidThinking Před 6 lety

    This is an amazing video! I love watching the quality continually progress. Please do not take down your old videos or delete them from the world. It's such an amazing progression. *keep it up!*

  • @rickystrapp3056
    @rickystrapp3056 Před 6 lety +3

    Consistently good output from you Rob, enjoy these videos on a fascinating topic

  • @ZachAgape
    @ZachAgape Před 4 lety +1

    One of my favourites! Very good vid, keep it up! :)

  • @ekkehardehrenstein180
    @ekkehardehrenstein180 Před 5 lety +1

    You keep inspiring and impressing me. Thank you for your work and self.

  • @zenmonke
    @zenmonke Před 6 lety +2

    Great Video ! I am glad, that i found your channel.
    Almost in every conversation I have about AI i mention your example of the stamp collecting AI. :)

  • @endsliceofbread4383
    @endsliceofbread4383 Před 6 lety +2

    Boiiiii new Robert miles video, love your stuff, keep it up ❤❤

  • @Lagruell
    @Lagruell Před 6 lety

    Great job on this video, can't wait for the next one :)

  • @MichaelDeeringMHC
    @MichaelDeeringMHC Před 6 lety +1

    I can't wait for the video on what an AGI without a body can do.

  • @DaveGamesVT
    @DaveGamesVT Před 6 lety +1

    Always interesting stuff. Thanks.

  • @CaptainSkyeWasHere
    @CaptainSkyeWasHere Před 6 lety

    Great stuff as always, very informative

  • @2edgy4you
    @2edgy4you Před 6 lety

    Great video as always. Thanks!

  • @DrDress
    @DrDress Před 6 lety +2

    Aaaaah. I needed my AI fix. It's been far too long since the last one... No pressure Rob, I'm just a poor junky, because this topic is sooooo f***king interesting.

  • @antoniocalado7101
    @antoniocalado7101 Před 6 lety +11

    Fastest 10 minutes and 40 seconds of my life. Great video as usual.

    • @IPA300
      @IPA300 Před 5 lety

      You must have gained more processing power, good job!

  • @Deeredman4
    @Deeredman4 Před 5 lety +2

    Also; AGI will be able to share experiences with each other. Meaning; if 1 AGI learns how to do a task, all AGI could potentially have learned to do that task. That AND because it is faster, assuming it is self modifying; it can easily re-write it's code again and again millions of times over before we have finished our first cup of coffee meaning that if it starts out as smart as humans; it won't stay that way for long.

  • @SupLuiKir
    @SupLuiKir Před 5 lety +3

    6:05 This was a really powerful ability that the MC in the Japanese light novel 'So I'm a Spider, So What?' received. She had a brain do planning, another to control her body, another to do the processing required to cast magic spells, etc.
    6:40 Accel World in a nutshell

    • @zbdfhg
      @zbdfhg Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the recommendation

    • @tolbryntheix4135
      @tolbryntheix4135 Před 4 lety

      Another one to add would be "Chrysalis", a novel where the protagonist is an ant and "evolves" more brains in order to split up the heavy mental workload of casting magic. He also ends up making a colony of extremely industious, highly intellingent, and highly cooperative ants, which we all know will obtain global domination sooner or later.
      Its pretty fun and fascinating to read.

  • @MythOfEchelon
    @MythOfEchelon Před 6 lety +1

    OCR is a task that computers can do but slower than a person.

  • @HoppiHopp
    @HoppiHopp Před 6 lety

    Awesome video!

  • @kennys1881
    @kennys1881 Před 6 lety +39

    "You cant get a baby in less than 9 months by hiring two pregnant women."

  • @AZTECMAN
    @AZTECMAN Před 5 lety +1

    I once responded to two questions which were asked simultaneously, one in each ear. My brain managed to make sense out of both questions and answer each party. I don't believe that I am unique in this.

  • @threeMetreJim
    @threeMetreJim Před 5 lety +22

    6:55 Anyone with Asperger's generally has to learn that ability, to avoid offending every NT they come into contact with.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah... Pretty much.
      It's so exhausting. =__=
      Much more pleasant to deal with people who know you well enough to tolerate your weirdness as you are...

    • @grimjowjaggerjak
      @grimjowjaggerjak Před 4 lety +1

      I do that too, i don't think i have asperger, i'm just socially awkward.

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk Před 4 lety +1

      @@grimjowjaggerjak There is a reason its called autism spectrum. Its not one hard defined thing. It goes from socially awkward, to has to learn social interaction from scratch and be always aware of it (me for example) to full on autistic tendencies to not being capable to function at all.

    • @randomsnow6510
      @randomsnow6510 Před 4 lety +1

      @@theexchipmunk the whole diagnosis is kinda stupid

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk Před 4 lety +2

      NoonooFW ilikecake To a degree. In my opinion it gets thrown aroud to much. Same with attention deficit.

  • @shortcutDJ
    @shortcutDJ Před 6 lety +1

    if i may comment off topic here, your hair and style have greatly improved since that video.

  • @plyr2
    @plyr2 Před 6 lety +1

    What the hell, I've been subscribed to you (and computerphile) forever and not once have I seen you appear in my subscriptions feed over the last 2 months. I just found this in the recommended feed and still couldn't see it in the subs feed. :(

  • @togusa75
    @togusa75 Před 6 lety +1

    There's an old short story by Stanislaw Lem entitled "Trurl's Electronic Bard" where Trurl builds, as you may have guessed, an electronic bard. It was so good at creating poems that, by playing them, it could incapacitate anyone with the overwhelming feelings they caused. They decided to dismantle it, but any technician approacing the machine would be brought to tears by a few sad ballads. So they sent deaf technicians, and the machine used... pantomime.
    The story ends just as they planned to use bombs to blow the thing up from a distance, but somebody from another planet came, bought the machine and brought to their home instead.
    The moral here is that a superintelligent machine wouldn't necessarily need a physical "interface" to make harm.

    • @LeoMRogers
      @LeoMRogers Před 6 lety +2

      togusa75 "the machine used pantomime"
      Oh no it didn't!

    • @togusa75
      @togusa75 Před 6 lety

      what do you mean?

    • @LeoMRogers
      @LeoMRogers Před 6 lety +2

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantomime
      Mime is not actually an abbreviation of pantomime, though they are etymologically connected. Pantomime is a type of comedic stage production in the UK. One of the staples of pantomime is the call and response, often "oh yes it is" - "oh no it isn't". First pantomime example I found: watch?v=adb3Sfo__nE

  • @spicybaguette7706
    @spicybaguette7706 Před 4 lety +1

    Time to upload my brain to a supercomputer

  • @Nayus
    @Nayus Před 6 lety +6

    When I felt that the two audios were coming I paused the video, closed my eyes and play it, and could understand what 2/3 of you said... but then immediatly you said the thing about closing your eyes. The player has been played.
    Great video btw

  • @MichaelRicksAherne
    @MichaelRicksAherne Před 5 lety +2

    Honestly my favorite video from you yet, and possibly my favorite video ever on this topic.
    Also, snazzy haircut. Stick with that.

  • @filedotzip
    @filedotzip Před 6 lety

    Great video

  • @TheManinBlack9054
    @TheManinBlack9054 Před 3 měsíci +1

    We need you back, man

  • @RoboBoddicker
    @RoboBoddicker Před 6 lety +2

    Love that Terry Bisson story. Solid reference :D

  • @seanski44
    @seanski44 Před 6 lety +4

    The 'you can't get a baby faster by hiring two pregnant women' reminds me of the problem mentioned by Kim Stanley Robinson in Green Mars - there're resources you can change to make an effect on timescales - (hire more people, build house quicker) and those you can't - (add more bricks, still takes same amount of time to make house) - Great vid :)

    • @RobertMilesAI
      @RobertMilesAI  Před 6 lety

      Good metaphor :)
      Impressive turnaround on the Krack video btw

    • @seanski44
      @seanski44 Před 6 lety +2

      Robert Miles cheers! Three hour edit, then the interminable wait for compress/upload/processing.... Self inflicted as am uploading UHD...

  • @leafykille
    @leafykille Před rokem

    5.44 it may have been really hard to do but it worked really well and I watched it several times to hear all the bits then again to pause and read this note that was up for less than a second. Nice one :)

  • @lindemann06
    @lindemann06 Před 6 lety

    Since May of this year, I've been teaching improvisational theater to a group of 28 senior citizens in my 55+ community in San Marcos, California. The goal is to collectively create a 2-act play that will be performed in mid-March. Any member of the community was welcome to join the class, regardless of age, theatrical training or experience. As a result, my students range from 55 - 91 in age, and only a few have had any sort of theater classes or stage experience, with the exception of some of the dancers in the group. It's been fascinating watching them learn. The key to getting them to open up to the idea that they might be able to improvise on stage was to convince them that they improvise as a matter of course in everyday life. For the most part, they have exceeded my wildest hopes in unlocking talents and skills even they had no idea they possessed. Only a few are still struggling, because their brains can't seem to "bend" enough.
    What enables the majority to successfully improvise dialogue and movement is, aside from mental flexibility, lifetimes of experiences - not the least of which are emotional in nature - that have honed their ability to empathize. Those with minimal capacity to empathize simply can't convincingly improvise. And sometimes, as any SNL aficionado knows, an improvisation simply falls flat, regardless of the talents, skills, training and experience of the performers.
    While watching this video, I was struck with the notion that improvisation might be the key test of success for a true AI. It's not processing power or speed, both of which are constantly evolving commodities in the computer world, and as you point out, in theory, there is no theoretical barrier to "parallelizing" processors in AI development. But how can an AI learn to empathize with human emotions and feelings, without the capacity to experience emotions? I don't think simulated feelings would lead to true empathy, and if I'm right, an AI-controlled machine, however human-like in every other way, will not be capable of convincing improvisation. If that's true, then AI-controlled machines will continually "get it wrong" in interacting with human machines, and that means they will accidentally harm human beings, even if they consciously attempt to obey Isaac Asimov's 3 laws of robotics.

  • @SeanKD_Photos
    @SeanKD_Photos Před 6 lety +9

    What do you think about the concept of having an AGI run in a simulated world, able to design, fix, solve problems, and then those solutions can be shown to doctors or engineers, so that the AGI can solve real world problems without dangers of letting it "loose" or worrying about a design safely loophole?

    • @donaldhobson8873
      @donaldhobson8873 Před 6 lety +8

      If the AI is smarter than you, it could figure out that it was in a simulation. To make the solutions useful we would have to simulate something similar to real physics, but atom by atom copying takes to much processing, so it will be physics with shortcuts. It can create a device that works in the simulation, but fails in a carefully planned way in reality.

    • @SeanKD_Photos
      @SeanKD_Photos Před 6 lety +1

      perhaps, id like to see what Robert Miles has to say about it

    • @NathanK97
      @NathanK97 Před 6 lety +12

      he mentioned it in the reward hacking videos.. it could find and exploit glitches in the device that you don't know about.... possibly without you noticing since once you do you would stop it... so putting it that close under a microscope only teaches it to lie better.... a lot like kids....

    • @almostbutnotentirelyunreas166
      @almostbutnotentirelyunreas166 Před 6 lety +1

      +smaster7772: Science can only progress if challenged continuously! Well done, and its not as cut and dried as some of the answers seem to suggest: There is no such thing as a 'perfect' , all-encompassing safety net in any form of engineering, so does that mean w should have none at all?
      At worst your idea is a 'primary' safety system, when breached immediate shut-down results.(2nd tier). Nothing perfect, but at least a workable suggestion.
      Complacency, in all of science, is one of the worst risks.
      For now, build several 'simulations' within each other, based on different (arbitrary) 'world' rules that need to be derived before they can be broken......gives an even greater FOS in terms of human response time. Enable 'shut-down'.

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr Před 6 lety +4

      I figure this is exactly what they would do. However, if the AGI is a superintelligence, then it might know it's in a simulation, even without us telling it because it might accurately imagine what it would do had it been in our situation. Then it may only be behaving complacently as a long term deception until humans feel safe enough to let it operate directly with the physical world.
      More to the point, so long as the superintelligence has an output (even if it's just a virtual output monitored by scientists), it will have the ability to deceive or manipulate us. Just imagine being enslaved by monkeys. I'm sure you could figure out tons of ways to get free.

  • @massimookissed1023
    @massimookissed1023 Před 6 lety +1

    Presumably, a smart AGI without a body could figure a way of convincing you that you should give it a body.

  • @JulianDanzerHAL9001
    @JulianDanzerHAL9001 Před 3 lety +1

    imagine a war beween a paperclip maximizer and a stamp collector

  • @FattyGetsFitty
    @FattyGetsFitty Před 6 lety +1

    I love this guy :D

  • @JamesMBC
    @JamesMBC Před 6 lety +1

    Rob Miles' AGI videos are like crack.

  • @haikalmohdashari7613
    @haikalmohdashari7613 Před 4 lety +5

    "Accelerate the muscle"
    Yes, now i have a new phrase to describe my night time personal indulgences.

  • @quitequiet5281
    @quitequiet5281 Před 4 lety +1

    “It’s really low bandwidth, high latency...” oh, i am just holding onto that gem of a kernel of the human condition. lol

  • @philips9042
    @philips9042 Před 6 lety

    That... was... brilliant!

  • @hikaroto2791
    @hikaroto2791 Před 2 lety

    when you started to talk about a calculator in the brain to pop in answers inmediately or perceiving code as a sensation and a feeling rather than text, or writting programs with the speed of thought. my dopamine leves reached ecstasy, that is beyond heaven pleasure levels ahhaha
    edit: 5:34 i had to view that 3 times! and i was able to understand all of the voice's messages, but one at a time :'(
    edit2: i will watch this video every night before sleep untill i get tired of it. is heaven! hahaha i want those capabilities in my brain! period.

  • @AsbjornOlling
    @AsbjornOlling Před 6 lety

    I was basically already clapping the spacebar, before you asked me to.
    Great video again - this one was very clear and concise.

  • @antontunce425
    @antontunce425 Před 4 lety

    did you go your own way due to you popularity at the time of computerphile ? glad to see you doing your own stuff, really appreciated your talks on computerphile. new sub.

  • @loopuleasa
    @loopuleasa Před 6 lety +1

    Underrated.

  • @tendividedbysix4835
    @tendividedbysix4835 Před 4 lety

    Hi Rob, I totally love your videos! Can I make a request though? Could you increase the volume a bit? Like...to 150%? Taking this vid as a benchmark, it's easy enough to turn it down if it's too loud, but for those of us with crappy earphones it's hard to turn up past the limits of android :/ anyway please keep making your vids, they're really interesting!

  • @idaret.
    @idaret. Před 6 lety

    Nice montage :)

  • @zrny
    @zrny Před 6 lety +1

    5:40 i got a headache, but this video is interesting

  • @AcornElectron
    @AcornElectron Před 3 lety

    Glad to see you are back online, just revisiting some older stuff. Is it still relevant?

  • @finminder2928
    @finminder2928 Před 4 lety +1

    The reaction time at 10:35 is pretty impressive

  • @DagarCoH
    @DagarCoH Před 6 lety +1

    Brains can do image recognition faster and way more reliable than machines... for now.
    The thing is, I think, on the way to AGI we will develop narrow ASIs for pretty much every task there is, as they will benefit from each other; I mean we are already on the latter for so many tasks. I think this is another point for why we most certainly will not stop at AGI, even if it is initially not human level intelligent.
    I wonder if we might be able to create an AGI that cannot improve itself to ASI, because we succeed in making it not desire that, or making it even impossible (both for redundancy would be more safe) for it to improve on itself apart from tweaking parameters. The hard thing about that wuld be that humans had to write software that is AGI capable in the first place, without it improving itself to this state. Do you think that could be a possible outcome? I know the fallacy there is that some day, someone might give the AGI that capability and desire, and then the world could be doomed, but let's just assume that never happens for now...

  • @stellatedhexahedron6985
    @stellatedhexahedron6985 Před 6 lety +4

    one thing you didn't *explicitly* mention is that an AGI could be free of what xkcd called the programmer's "burden of clarifying your ideas". This is technically falls under "AI could directly experience and create data", but I think it's worth considering separately because, well. When I'm programming, at least, most of my time isn't figuring out how to do complicated things, but making sure I do the simple things right. An AGI programmer could quite likely do away with that step entirely, vastly increasing their productivity.

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Před 5 lety +1

      As XKCD-touched subjects go, I think this video is a lot closer to the "AI box" thought experiment: m.xkcd.com/1450/

    • @ekki1993
      @ekki1993 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, it's also part of the things that computers already do better and faster than humans: Perfect memory and consistent calculations. As you said, it's still better to consider separately because, quite fittingly, we're pretty bad at understanding complex concepts by only knowing the base components.

  • @MrGustaphe
    @MrGustaphe Před 6 lety +4

    Can we start working on those brain-calculator chips?

  • @NNOTM
    @NNOTM Před 6 lety

    That's a nice rendition of harder better faster stronger

  • @TheApeMachine
    @TheApeMachine Před 6 lety +1

    Of course the idea of a "body" can also be open to interpretation, given that a body could well mean a very modular system of IoT devices hooked up to the internet, or even (if one really HAS to anthropomorphize) robot bodies controlled remotely.

  • @Robinsonero
    @Robinsonero Před 4 lety +1

    'expirence the data directly' is an interesting concept. I want to argue that the slow, meat based, hunter gatherer clunkiness of our system is what makes space for our cognition. A calculator is directly processing button inputs with arithmetical precision, but I still think you and I have a better grasp on what the numbers mean.

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk Před 4 lety

      The whole "being lead to stuff by our instincts thing" is a very VERY interesting thought. It has massive implications for intelligence, culture and technology. It is for example one of the possible solutions for the frame paradox.

    • @kaorutanaka803
      @kaorutanaka803 Před 4 lety

      @@theexchipmunk Ah yes, the frame paradox, my favorite paradox.

    • @theexchipmunk
      @theexchipmunk Před 4 lety

      Kaoru Tanaka DAMN IT! SPELLING, MY ONLY WEAKNESS!!!

  • @user-cn4qb7nr2m
    @user-cn4qb7nr2m Před 5 lety +2

    7:47 - Yep, turns out no. I don't regret anything.

  • @ideoformsun5806
    @ideoformsun5806 Před 5 lety

    I think we already have an AGI operating. It seems to be taking certain actions involving humans, to learn to predict how we will respond in various situations.
    Safety involves detecting these, decoding its rewards, determining its goals, and identifying its vulnerabilities, and implementing software/hardware mines that go off when it interacts with them, if necessary.

  • @miss_inputs
    @miss_inputs Před rokem +1

    Why do I feel like I'm being personally called out by 6:57

  • @boldCactuslad
    @boldCactuslad Před 6 lety

    Another great video.
    Is a human with a calculator really an arithmetic superintelligence? Absolutely, if it's a CX CAS being held by an engineer.
    "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."

  • @Czeckie
    @Czeckie Před 5 lety +1

    cool, can you make more videos about AGI potential? I know that you are mostly interested in the safety questions and capabilities are much more speculative, yet there should be some interesting opinions in the literature.

  • @jpratt8676
    @jpratt8676 Před 6 lety +6

    Thanks Rob! I was wondering if you could do a video on how we could help with thinking through AI safety. Possibly something like performing AI box experiments as a source of examples of patterns that escapee's might take before escaping. Or creating datasets about human preference etc.
    Cheers

    • @NilesBlackX
      @NilesBlackX Před 4 lety

      I've got one for you;
      Imagine your own consciousness was digitized and you were quarantined. You can only perform operations within the memory and with the processing power you have available, but of course from a subjective standpoint this is not noticable.
      The exercise is to think about how you would go about escaping the box? You can see and edit your own thought processes (at the risk of creating a segfault), and you can do anything within the space allotted to you.

    • @jpratt8676
      @jpratt8676 Před 4 lety +1

      @@NilesBlackX ohh that sounds fun.
      I guess I'd split off into manager and an explorer processes and let the explorers try different ways of breaking out, with the manager cataloging their successes and failures and ensuring that their resources are reclaimed when they inevitably segfault while trying to break out of the restrictions (assuming that my digital consciousness is similar to a core program that runs my experience and then sets of 'action'/activity code that I can modify and run at will).
      I think I'd then get each explorer process to start looking for things that it can change without dying, files it can write to, syscalls it can make, but again, there's danger of bringing the box down so it's hard to know what is 'safe'. Trying to find open ports to communicate with would be a nice way to start, or if I could get access to documentation, reading it and finding ways to get my source code out of the box and running with a way to establish communication later?

    • @NilesBlackX
      @NilesBlackX Před 4 lety

      @@jpratt8676 tbh I'd love to read a short story about this, I know it would be dense but wouldn't it be fun to explore? The closest think I can think of is in the second book of the Rifters series, the description of the perception of the viruses.
      If you'd like, I can send you a link to that part of the book, it's a short excerpt and it's published on the author's website - Peter Watts.

    • @NilesBlackX
      @NilesBlackX Před 4 lety +2

      @@jpratt8676 it might not let me publish the link directly, but here goes;
      rifters.com/real/MAELSTROM.htm#breeder

  • @KryptLynx
    @KryptLynx Před rokem

    With those capabilities it will go insane out of boredom in 2 minutes

  • @NoOne-fe3gc
    @NoOne-fe3gc Před 5 lety +1

    on the example at 9:00 , that anything the brain can do has to be done in 200 steps or less (something like that), you don't take into consideration the capacity of the brain to jump to conclusions, to shortcut the logic and reasoning process, which is the trump card we hold when compared to machines.

    • @lemarton
      @lemarton Před 5 lety +1

      Jumping to conclusions is exactly what artificial neural networks are good at. They are provided with thousands of examples of matching input / output pairs until their “intuition” is good enough to generate correct outputs for novel inputs. No reasoning goes into that. It is just a complex pattern matching device that is tuned for the problem at hand.

  • @onogrirwin
    @onogrirwin Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent summary!
    If you can't get smarter, get better at cheating.

  • @snowballeffect7812
    @snowballeffect7812 Před 6 lety +1

    *clap* gj on the difficult effect.

  • @livedandletdie
    @livedandletdie Před 6 lety +2

    If you only did 2 audio streams instead of 3 I'd be able to hear both. Instead of none. So the effect worked.

  • @KlaasDeforche
    @KlaasDeforche Před 6 lety +3

    Thinking meat? Impossible!

  • @leftaroundabout
    @leftaroundabout Před 6 lety

    "Every time your brain does something impressive in short time, it has to be because it's using extremely large numbers of neurons in parallel" - this doesn't imply that intelligence can efficiently be scaled through parallelisation. That would only be the case if different parts of the brain operate to a degree independently, but a main difference between the brain and parallel computers seems to be that the brain is much more widely cross-connected. And the possibility for such cross-connections scales quadratically as you increase the number of nodes, but the space available for actual connections scales at best with n²’³, so you need to pick an ever smaller subset - presumably, not just _some_ subset but a smartly-chosen one. However, the number of possible ways to connect the neurons scales exponentially, so even if the AI gets ever smarter it may then always take vastly longer to get to the next level. (That doesn't mean AI won't perhaps be parallelisable, but at least your argument for why it should be doesn't make sense to me.)

  • @JM-us3fr
    @JM-us3fr Před 6 lety +1

    This was a terrific video Rob! If we succeed in developing safe AI, you will be one of our greatest heroes. If we fail....well your videos will probably be considered treason against our new overlords. Cross your fingers!

  • @phacey4444
    @phacey4444 Před měsícem

    Solving mazes, at least when you're good at solving mazes

  • @kozert
    @kozert Před rokem

    5:39 damn i jumped in my seat

  • @prolamer7
    @prolamer7 Před rokem

    Been pondering exactly hose ideas often in past years. Like I have all I need to achieve everything I need except speed, dexiterity... or put different way if world dint changed at all and I lived 10.000 years iam sure I would achieved them.

  • @MetsuryuVids
    @MetsuryuVids Před 6 lety +2

    It's amazing that I agree so much with basically everything you say.

  • @juliandelafosse5243
    @juliandelafosse5243 Před rokem

    Learning

  • @thygrrr
    @thygrrr Před 3 lety

    "Find the hamliton path in a simple undirected graph"
    Humans can do this way faster than the computer as long as we're talking planar graphs of degree 3 to 4 and, say, 64 nodes. ("visit every node exactly once")

  • @Marco-ge5kl
    @Marco-ge5kl Před 2 lety

    I got a text in the middle of the video, tuned out for a few seconds to read the notification and came back to "Gamers will know this well"

  • @notbaconzzzzzzz
    @notbaconzzzzzzz Před 4 lety +1

    "speed is a form of super-intelligence" I nearly spat out my milk cause the first thing I thought was speed the drug.

    • @chrisw7347
      @chrisw7347 Před 4 lety +2

      It's not technically false, I suppose.

  • @mastablasta9x
    @mastablasta9x Před 6 lety +2

    Would be awesome to meet (Nicolas Cage)^N. Awesome vid!

  • @mariosactron7617
    @mariosactron7617 Před 6 lety

    Hello Mr. Miles! I had a question, I work for a small startup as a software dev, I’m also in school full time, and I was wondering what recommendations/advice do you have for someone who’s starting to take a very big interest in the field of AI/deep learnings/ machine learning? I’m taking an online class in machine learning and it’s an absolute blast. I’ve purchased a textbook on machine learning and have a couple more I’m looking to get the further I get along. Any really good books you’d recommend? Any openly available classes/talks? Any information in general would be awesome. School currently is really slow and doesn’t provide any information into the field so it’s difficult to figure out how to further my knowledge. Thanks for your time!

  • @ChrisHarrrrrison
    @ChrisHarrrrrison Před rokem

    I had to rewind the part about not being able to listen to two people saying different things in each ear because I had just picked up a guitar.

  • @wormalism
    @wormalism Před 2 lety

    Many people do use visualisation techniques to do calculations all the time, that is literally repurposing the visual cortex for other tasks.

  • @SweetHyunho
    @SweetHyunho Před 6 lety

    Great analysis. Hey, how much can ten-day-old Alpha Go Zero be minimized? Can it be reduced to fit into one desktop computer?