How Much Money Do Physiotherapists Actually Make? (Honest Physical Therapist Salary)
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Does this qualify as oversharing? I hope not, mostly because I wish someone would have overshared with me before I was a PT.
Money can be awkward to talk about! Many people in all sorts of different professions simply aren't comfortable talking about how much money they make because it feels taboo.
Here's the problem though: if nobody talks about how much money they make, how are the future professionals of tomorrow supposed to make informed career decisions?
When I was becoming a PT, I didn't really have any idea of how much money Phyisotherapists earned. I just knew it was in healthcare and was considered a "good" job, so I assumed it would be alright (you know what happens when we assume, right).
My hope is that this video can be the voice for you that I never had, honestly sharing how much money someone specifically makes as a Physiotherapist, and giving you an idea of what you can expect in different areas of the profession.
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Jonah is a Canadian Physiotherapist who works with a primarily outpatient orthopaedic population at a clinic in his home town of Sudbury, Ontario. He completed his Master's of Physical Therapy at the University of Toronto, with his Bachelors of Sciences specialized in Human Kinetics coming from The University of Ottawa. He is also considered by his parents, fiancee and dogs to be a pretty cool guy.
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Let's Go Jonah! Love the video! Very useful!!
Thanks a lot Zach! Great to hear from you and glad the video was useful :)
Intriguing. I am considering a re-qualification to a PT in my home-country in EU and this was quite insightful information, including the comments. Thanks.
i graduated in australia 1 year ago, when i first graduated i was on a fixed salary as i hadnt built up my caseload, my base rate was 70k and bonuses added on it equalled up to 85k roughly, once i built up my caseload to the point where i new i would see enough patients i went on commision.
After 1 year im currently earning $120,00 aud annually which is around 110,00 canadian dollars thats on a 40 percent commission model seeing around 80-100 patients a week, when looking for a job id recommend avoiding practices that work on negative commission so if you dont make enough one month to make commission you can still get your base rate but still make commission the next month instead of paying back the difference if that makes sense. The best practices to work at are ones that have 1-3 physios max, that way you can also ensure majority of the time you will be fully booked.
Interesting model! The negative commission is a setup I haven't seen before in a Canadian practice. Sounds like it would work out pretty well for the clinicians. Thanks for sharing!
Sorry for the late reply can you share some more
Bcoz I really see a lot of people complaining abt the physio salary in aus for the work the do
What’s your best advice to make sure you start strong I’m passionate about physio but the cost of living in Australia and the physio salary is swaying me away
Personally I’m very optimistic and see if you are provided as a new grad with a decent salary and some sort of commission plus bonus then you can make some amazing money
Please share your thoughts im very new thank you
Thank you , this was so helpful!
You are so welcome! Glad to hear it was helpful!
I’ve recently started to consider physiotherapist as a career path as i’m at the end of my high school years but as a Korean living in Korea the pay for physiotherapists is so low that the average earining is like 40,000 dollars a year cuz the health care system is very cheap in Korea (but this also means cost of living is cheaper than in the states) and its not allowed for physiotherapists to open a clinic here (obviously the top 1~5% earn a lot but that’s hard to become) so I’ve been looking for physiotherapist earnings in other countries that i could possibly go to and work there if i choose this career path and this video helped a lot thanks!
Glad this was helpful for you!
Thanks for sharing on the situation with PT in a different country, always interesting to hear about how different the profession/income can be from place to place. Best of luck if you end up branching out to other countries!
The average income of a physical therapist in Jordan is $5,000 per year🤣
Why do we, physical therapists, receive a low salary number compared to dentists, nurses, and even the rest of the medical system, even though the number of years of study is six?
Ahhhh a good question. There’s a few things at work here.
I think important to remember in discussions like this is that salary is not dictated by years of school. There's a bit of a feeling in healthcare that it is because highly specialized providers often earn higher salaries, but this isn't always the case.
Healthcare is a business at the end of the day (unfortunately). Salaries and the flow of money are determined by the value of service of goods provided (cost per visit or items sold), and the volume of how much is provided (# of patients).
The main reason PTs earn less salary is our services are less valued (visits are cheaper either privately or allocated by hospital). Now, why this is the case could be quite a long discussion, so let's leave that for today. To try and combat this many PT clinics turn to increasing patient volume (more visits per day) but this generally leads to poorer quality care and higher rates of clinician burnout.
All in all, PTs make lower salaries because their services earn less money when compared to other professionals. It's unfortunate and disappointing when you consider it takes 6 years of expensive schooling to get into the profession, but such is the state of affairs today.
1. How much tax deducted from that salary?
2. Are the benefits are same for foreign student?
1. I went back and looked at that year, there were about $25000 in deductions from tax and employee contributions
2. Not sure which benefits you mean, but any structure of pay would likely be the same regardless of training location
@@aphysionamedjonah benefits in the sense that , are foreign students getting same salary and facilities as the regular students ?
@ompatel1320 ahhh ok thanks for clarifying!
So as an international student at a Canadian school, the same benefits and opportunities are provided. Once you attend a Canadian school, you're essentially treated as a Canadian student.
Now if your PT schooling is from outside Canada, you will be unable to practice in Canada until passing through the Canadian licensing process. I get asked about this process a lot, so might be time to make a video on it once I figure out how to balance time as a parent more!
Now, once licensed as a Canadian PT, all job opportunities are MEANT to be equal. I saw meant because unconscious bias and prejudice still exists, so will it always be that way in practice....sadly probably not.
Hope this helps!
@@aphysionamedjonah I have got to know that there is one exam PCE to clarify , for the licensing purposes. But don’t know the other procedure . If you can get to know please make a video on it. If possible . 😊
@ompatel1320 will do! In the meantime you can find more info here:
alliancept.org/internationally-trained/
Not the easiest read but everything you need to know should be there!
Do you think it is worth it to go to school for a DPT if you have a full-ride scholarship? I am a veteran and my benefits will pay for the entire program.
Great question. At the end of the day, "Worth it" always comes down to personal preference and feelings.
It sounds like with those things working in your favour you'd be able to exit school with less debt than the average student, which is obviously a good thing.
In the end though, whether or not it would be worth it depends on personal expectations and goals for your career, as well as your day to day occupation. If you haven't already, spending some time getting practical experience exposed to physical therapy would likely help you to understand if this job is going to be worth it yo you+
Good video
Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for checking out the channel!
Please make a video for perfusionist?
Hey! As in a video on how much perfusionsists make as a salary? That is something I could look into, but don't have any practical experience with!
Hi my friend, thank you so much for the video.
I have some questions I would be appreciated if you can answer them.
I just graduated from high school and I want to study kinesiology, and my goal is to become a physiotherapist in Ontario .
First of all do you think the physiotherapy schools in Ontario really care what university you had your undergrads degree from ( your bachelor)
Second of I really try to figure out the actual salary of a physiotherapist, and now I am stuck between become a physiotherapist or chiropractor.
If you experience, do you think which one would make more generally and how much different do they have moneywise.
And which one is better in your opinion .
And, how hard it is to enter the physiotherapy school in Canada and what they are really looking for. Is it tomorrow your GPA or is it more volunteer works?
And if there is any exam like MCAT?
And Leslie, do you think you see is the best major to become a physiotherapist?
I would really appreciate if you could answer these question. Thank you.
Alright let's answer some questions!
1. No PT schools aren't picky about where your undergrad comes from. What they care about in the admissions process is if you have the pre-requisites, what your GPA is, and what kind of experience/background you have in the PT world.
2. Hopefully this video gave you a good idea of what salary to expect in Canada! PT vs. Chiro can be pretty similar in an outpatient setting, so not sure if salary is the best way to determine which is better for you. I'd probably think more about which profession/style of thinking you resonate with more since the money is quite similar.
3. PT school is quite difficult to get into. Their main focus is GPA, period. After GPA has been considered then they do look at volunteer works and standardized testing (CASPER), but the main differentiator (for better or for worse) is absolutely GPA.
4. While you can become a PT with just about any degree while taking the pre-requisities in sciences/anatomy, I do tend to think that kinesiology/human kinetics is a really good background in human movement and sciences. Specifically a HK/kin degree that has a science focus, I took the BScHK (bachelor of sciences with specialization in human kinetics) degree at uOttawa.
Thanks for the questions and hope this was helpful!
@@aphysionamedjonah thank you so much. I appreciate your time and effort for answering this long questions.
I got my answer for lot of my questions for now. After I got to the program I may have more questions; I appreciate if you can help me in the future as well.
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If dpt from the US gets a job in Canada with their doctor degree, do you think the salary would be increased ?
Possibly, but not necessarily! I could see being able to negotiate a better contract if you could sell that education/experience to a clinic owner for higher pay, but the DPT doesn't inherently mean that the salary would be increased if that makes sense.
I have commerce background from high school then i completed bachelor in commerce from India , i am permanent resident in Canada . I want to compeltely switch my career into physiotherapist . Could you help me in this .
Hi there, wow that is quite the upcoming switch you're seeking!
If you want to get more into this, send me an email through the email address I have listed on my channel.
Given your background education experience, it's definitely going to be quite the process that's required to get to PT, but if it's something you're passionate about it would definitely be possible. It is likely to be quite the lengthy process though, just as fair warning ahead of starting things in that direction.
This is very helpful. Thanks for sharing! I am curious about all the positions a physio can have in a hospital setting. I have heard it takes a long time to build seniority enough to have more diverse opportunities (beyond basic mobilization etc.)
Hi Tess, great question!
This may be different based on region, but I'll speak to the situations that I'm aware of. When it comes to complexity of treatment, generally that has more to do with what region of the hospital you're working on.
Within a given floor, it's not that the senior physios take on more responsibility compared to the junior PTs. The complexity of treatments is all based on what the caseload for the given floor is.
Getting a position on a floor with the caseload you're interested in can take some time, but generally within a few years you should be able to get a position in a region that has a caseload you're interested.
Hope this helps!
so do you recommend me to take a pce exam and become a pt in canada or not as the salaries you talk about in the video do you think that these salaries will make me live a good life or not?
Oof well that is a loaded question.
I think the decision to go the PT route is very much up to you! Only you can determine how much income you feel as though you need to live a "good" life. My goal here is to help give you an expectation of what this profession can provide in terms of income when working as an employee.
Personally, I've obviously made my own decision about the profession as I'm still a part of it!
this is the most convincing answer i have ever seen and i hope to be a pt
in canada@@aphysionamedjonah
Can i go ur country for mbbs.. I am from Bangladesh... How much. Money need
So if i have done bachelor of physitherapy from India, would i be able to work as physical therapist assistant without passing the licence exam, after moving immediately to Canada?? And what is the salary i should expect as a physical therapist assistant??
Hi there, thanks for the question!
Because Physical Therapist Assistant is not a protected term, it is definitely possible to get a job as a PTA in Canada without passing any licensing equivalences (to the best of my knowledge that is).
Starting salaries will vary, but I would expect something in the $18-25/hour range depending on the location. Hope this helps!
@@aphysionamedjonah thanks for the reply
40/hr is that the base pay or your treatments?
Good question, that's my pay regardless of treatments. When you're on an hourly salary, it stays the same no matter how many or how few treatments you do!
Thinking on going to canada now…. 😅Here ( where I live and study, aka Portugal) in the first 5 years pos graduation we earn about 20000 euros per year ( and im being generous 🙃)
Well as a country we welcome newcomers :) haha.
I will say in terms of equivalencies it can be difficult to get a full PT license in Canada when you've been trained internationally. There are a couple exams/requirements that ate only offered a couple times a year. They're also quite expensive unfortunately.
Thanks for checking out the channel! Let me know if you have any questions about canadian PT in the future :)
Do you have mpt
Yes, I have an MScPT degree that I got from the University of Toronto! That's a Master's of Science clinically focused on Physical Therapy.
Let's get this bread!
This is literally my favourite saying these days
Can we use the dr prefix in front of our name 👀
I think you can if you have DPT
Only if you have a DPT, which is the type of schooling provided in the U.S.A. In Canada, our programs are an MScPT, which means that because it is a Master's program we cannot use the Doctor title. Good question though!
Would the salary increase with an accredited doctorate in PT?
Thanks for doing the video, you've done a great job.
After pheseotherepy course in India can I come Canada for a job?
Hi Gulshan, thanks for the question!
Internationally trained PTs can move to Canada and work, but you will only be able to work as a PT once you pass licensing exams for the region of Canada you live in.
We've had a lot of turbulence with this testing recently, but essentially you need to pass a written exam, and a practical exam to become a PT that can work in Canada. Up until you receive that result, my understanding is that you will not be able to work as a PT. I am not an expert in this area though, so I do recommend looking into this more if it's something you are seriously interested in!
after 2 years experience physiotherapy salary in canada per month
Hi Shoaib, based on the numbers I used in the video, BEFORE applicable taxes an estimate of a monthly salary could be around $6000 canadian. This would lead to somewhere around a $4000 monthly after tax take home. Hope this helps!
@@aphysionamedjonahdoes $4000 monthly equate to a good living life.
I live in uk with £1600 or approx $1900 dollars and the cost of living isn’t great so we struggle with a £1600 monthly wage
Hello sir what is the salary of.mpt in neuro in cmaada per month
Great question!
Specialties don't change the income of PTs in Canada all that specifically, so the salary of a Neurological focused PT in Canada vs. Orthopedic focused is not going to be immensely different in most cases. So with that in mind, a starting neuro PT in a clinic or hospital, would make pretty much the same as the monthly totals I brought up in the video. The same advances in salary would be expected to occur throughout their career as well.
Hope this helps!