Mario and Luigi Partners in Time Minimum Kill Challenge
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2021
- Science fiction has always told me that killing someone in the past will drastically change the future, so today I'm trying to avoid that by killing as few enemies as possible.
Watch as I go clinically insane trying to minimize kills in the second installment of the Mario & Luigi series.
Music used:
Remix of boss theme by TC Music: • Crisis of The Red and ...
Remix of Younger Princess Shroob battle theme by TC Music: • Princess Shroob Battle...
Remix of Elder Princess Shroob battle theme by The Noble Demon: • Mario & Luigi: Partner...
The full run was streamed to my twitch channel www.twitch.tv/callenderman
Be sure to check it out if you want to see future challenge runs live - Hry
Bowser´s Inside Story is on it´s way!!! Script and voiceover are finished, now onto editing. Due to certain circumstances I can't say for sure how long the video will take, but I'm gonna try as hard as I can to get it out by the end of May. Thanks to everyone who has stuck around so far!!!
Could be interesting to do these challenges for paper mario games.
@@AmericanCatlover2.0 I have considered it, but it’s much harder considering you can’t dodge every attack like you can in m&l
@@CallenderMan True, at least the thousand year door has the superguard and super paper mario is a 2d/3d platformer.
Did you equip the challenge shell two spice things up with BIS? I did a min kill run with the shell and it was fun if not brutal
@@june9914 I had it on for a while, but eventually got rid of it because it got a little too ridiculous.
Fun fact: The American version of Partners in Time is actually harder. Mainly the bosses have considerably more HP making them damage sponges especially since most boss fights in this game has a gimmick that restricts damage to a specific phase/form/attack/etc.
No tish sherlock.
I couldnt even beat it
Maybe that’s why I couldn’t beat it as a kid lol
if I ever play this game, I'm getting the UK version
they got more HP but less DEF asaik!
I guess what dafawfulizar was true
5:38 surprisingly enough, you can also use Ice Flowers on Kamek as well. if he ever gets debuffed, and then splits, only the real one will show the debuffs.
5:56 I stand corrected. you do know about this. Nice
1:06 oh by the way, you can actually die to both Baby Bowser and Shrooboid Brat tutorial battles so it does eliminate 2 kills. I only knew about this when I was playing a hard mode rom hack of Partners in time ( I streamed it on my Twitch channel, uploaded to my CZcams). However, the only way to do that, is to fail every single attack and dodge. Now, I don't know if it is still possible in the OG game, but that might eliminate an enemy or 2.
Oh, that’s actually good to know
Shrooboid brat isn't a tutorial boss. You're thinking of junior shrooboid.
@@Jaydove2387 yeah... my bad. but that green Luigi shroob-boi can kill you.
Not possible in the vanilla game. Baby Bowser leaves you at 3 HP since it is programed to automatically end after 5 turns, and Junior Shrooboid leaves you at 2 HP.
@@kornelbut dang. But if you mod the game to give it a hard mode, and have Mario lose the battle, it actually counts as a win.
I did a run very similar to this a few years back, and red shells and flowers are BUSTED. Once you unock flowers, you can just absolutely BLAST through the entire game, and a ton of the bosses are weak to ice too.
I destroyed the shield around Younger Princess Shroob and then managed to keep a red shell combo going for long enough to defeat her in that one turn.
If you want your run to be extra hellish, try making it so only Baby Luigi can gain experience, by making him the only character alive when gaining experience (once you obtain him of course). You would be surprised how little it changes the run.
rather fitting you finished the area with the leetspeek bros. with 1,337 coins.
Never noticed that!
6:53 supposedly if you use Ice Flowers on the Eggs in Sunnycides boss fight, it does more damage to the eggs than other attacks. and can take out multiple at a time. Although that was probably the hard mode hack added onto my game, I believe it might be the same in the OG. The Eggs only have around 30 HP.
29 to be exact
This is giving me the motivation to complete my old minimalist run (including not using any items).
And allowing glitches.
I basically gave up because I started struggling with doing gate skip again after failing to avoid an enemy, and then the fear of the final bosses, knowing it would likely take hours of perfect gameplay to kill them.
I did originally consider a minimalist playthrough as you described, but then I realized that I want to keep at least SOME of my sanity, so I decided against it.
the interesting part about Elder Shrooboid is that when doing say a low-level, no items(Bros items are excluded cuz they're literally required, and Mrs Thwomp is the only chance you have to farm them), no equipment+no badges, Stache only run of Mario and Luigi Partner in time, which's called "Nerve-Mode" is:
Elder Shrooboid's Spin attack, I noticed that Elder Shrooboid's spin attack will either:
1. take exactly 4 counter-attack hits to stop
2. take more than 4, which, if so, and it more often than not, will happen, will be completely impossible to avoid, which can force a reset
that fights essentially a pretty big rng check, which's really surprising considering how easy it usually would be.
I like how its actually more dangerous because of its spin-to-win attack being potentially an unavoidable attack.
Luigi at level 18 will survive Elder Shrooboid's phase 1 spin-to-win attack if its POW is down via Ice Flower, but only that 1 time.
the part I found neat bout the current run I'm doing of Nerve Mode Challenge is Mrs. Thwomp is the only time you have to stock up on green shells and ice flowers, which you absolutely need to do, otherwise its a softlock.
as Green Shell's the only real damaging item, Ice Flower's utility and you have to preserve the infinite duration bros items as much as possible
I can absolutely confirm, having beaten this, that Level 23 for all 4 of da bros is the absolute sweet-spot for this nerve-mode challenge due to Pit's level scaling.
at level 19 I can also confirm you can beat Elder Princess Shroob's 1st phase only. 2nd phase is what I deem impossible at level 19 or lower without a TAS, since the damage to her foot is far too low and her 3-leg sweep can become unavoidable. meaning you'll just lose when that happens.
I remember doing a no equipment run of this game and it was tough but fun all the way up to shroob castle, where every enemy one shot me. I gave up after about halfway through the castle though ahaha. Grats on the run! I'm looking forward to immediately watching your BiS run!
Dude thank you so much really i was stuck in the elder princess shroob fight but i used the equips u used for the final fight and i did it really easily thank you so much you just got yourself a new subscriber
Glad you were able to do it! I remember having a lot of trouble on that fight when I first played it. Younger me is probably looking at me with envy considering I did it with low stats XD
@@CallenderMan i was struggling a lot with my old strategy. I just used Luigi to spam healing items and stat raising items and pretty much only attacked with Mario. As a result (since Mario has the lower defensive stats) Mario died all the time and i couldn't even damage the elder princess shroob a lot because i had to use luigi's turn to heal mario, then it was the princess shroob's turn, then mario died AGAIN and it just kept going like that
@@CallenderMan lol also i insisted on using red shells all the time cuz i managed to defeat the younger princess shroob in a single turn with it. I wasted a lot of turns using red shells while the elder one wouldn't even get hit ( and the ones i did hit, i couldn't keep it up for long enough for the damage to be worth the turn )
I wish THIS game was remade instead of BiS. I know they probably remade that game instead because it probably costed WAY less resources and its a lot more popular. But maaan, PiT needed a remake the most out of every M&L game
This video is funny, I enjoy your humor :)
I subscribed to you 👍
If glitches were used, the counter could've been lower by almost half of the kills
Dude! This was an awesome video with some high quality editing, hope ya get more new subscribers than just me!
Thanks a lot! I definitely take my time editing these, I don't want my stuff to be rushed.
Thanks for your videos, someone's doing justice to these games for once in awhile...
I'm a bit embarrassed to say this is the only game of the trilogy I barely managed to beat back when I had my DSiXL 😅
I got suck on some puzzle with SS in the ice palace because I sucked at playing with the keyboard and mGBA, and couldn't finish the final battle of BIS because I couldn't eat evil dark spider fawdul consistently, my X key was probably broken...
Props for using MelonDS!
Well edited video, hope you'll get more attention
Thanks, I do try t take my time when editing these
Oh man I feel bad for you having to beat elder princess shroob with such a low level I played through this game grinding every enemy in sight and that fight still took me an hour probably one of the most difficult fights in video game history
bro this man deserves subscribers man hella underrated
Yay, more Mario and Luigi gameplay challanges!
Found this video and am now subscribed
Thanks! I plan on doing many more of these in the future (including one in the works right now).
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I've actually done this challenge on the PAL version a few years ago, only difference is that most endgame bosses have waaay less HP and that I forced myself to up only speed on level ups which is pretty much the most useless stat in the game. I have planned on doing this with every game and I have already done this on Bowser's Inside Story (the gear in end game is ridiculous if you optimize it, Mario in that run hit as hard as it would in my normal playthrough). I have attempted this on Paper Jam but I don't want to now, turns out if you enter a battle during a toad mission you can't run from it, at least from what I remember of it. All the other games should be fine though, not looking towards Dream Team because that one is going to be brutal.
Stashe is surprisingly good for the babies if you level it up and equip lucky badges on them. You can get smth like 20% lucky chance (about 30% with the Lucky A badge) if you have 60+ in your stashe stat, which is amazing for multi hit moves like the Trampoline.
@@bobbuilder625 yeah stache is actually quite good, people just assume it's worse than straight dmg so they don't put points and gear towards it.
tbh you're really underrated keep up the content
Honestly I really agree with you
This is my favorite game the video is amazing good job!
This channel is very underrated
Thanks :)
Yes, extremely underrated! It is so good.
lmao this is how I used to play this game as a kid because I was scared of fighting enemies. I somehow made it to princess shroob with mario and luigi at like level 17 and about 75 health each. I still have this save file and while it is technically possible to beat, my inventory has so few bros items that even getting to the second shroob fight takes 45 minutes lol.
Really gave me flashbacks of trying to side-step enemies in the overworld and spamming jumps on boss fights.
I'm surprised that you reached level 17, I fought basically every enemy in the game besides the shroob castle enemies and reached the end at level 14 and around 50 health
I've recently tried to do that challenge but I was playing on the european version but there few differences I have noticed from my experience
- Mrs. Thwomp was to me the 2nd worst boss of the game since she has "630 hp" but for some reason she never died, I spent almost 2 hours to defeat her and I've probably made her losing around 2000 hp (I seriously don't understand that boss works)
- All the 3 princess shroob fights are immuned to Ice Flowers so they were totally useless. I took finally to me near about 7 hours to beat these 3 fights.
And for some reasons Pocket Chomp is to me very more powerful than the trampoline (making Trampoline the weakest attack).
However, despite boss having less health than in US version, some stats are rearranged, the worst being on the final boss the foot having 500 hp instead of 400 and 350 instead of 200 for the tentacles (meaning that tentacles barely were absent, which was a pain)
Princess Shroob's shield bubble has 15 hits.
Do the Baby Bowser and Junior Shrooboid fights in the tutorial count as kills, even though they didn't die?
You only have 100 subs why? This is TOP TIER CONTENT
You now just got one more :)
@@icyshrooms8502 Thanks a lot!
1. Didn't you SAVE the Leet hammer bros? (-2)
2. Kamek never actually dies (-1)
3. The Bowsers never truly die no matter how many times (-3)
If you watch part 1 of the superstar saga video, I explain what constitutes a kill. It's a mario game, so very few people actually die.
@@CallenderMan fair enough I'll go watch that
Technically though, some fight in the game like baby and and adult bowser or ms thwomp don’t die after being defeated
So I also did this run (on my CZcams channel sorry self plug) and one issue that I’m surprised you never mentioned or maybe you just never had the issue was coin management. When I got to the final boss, I never had nearly enough coins to get through it so I actually went back to toad town and actually did the money glitch.
For those who don’t know, the money glitch is where you sell all your items except one expensive gear piece and then have 99 mushrooms in your inventory (or just the cheapest item). Then you sell the gear piece and then you can frame perfectly press A right after you get the coins and the game will allow you to sell mushrooms at the same price you were selling the gear piece.
I had to use that for the final boss to beat it. But coin management throughout the playthrough was really tough. Did you experience this problem at all?
I never actually had a lot of money problems in this game. You get a lot of money and gear just from blocks lying around the world, so I didn’t end up having to buy much.
Now, superstar saga, on the other hand…
@@CallenderMan I will have to try superstar saga. In your BiS playthrough, did you allow yourself to go after beans?
For me the Trampolines are better than the Copy Flowers.
The trampoline gets too fast to handle for me quicker than copy flowers does, which is why I prefer copy flowers.
a more valid strategy to killing Shroob commander is to equip the shroom pants and mushroom slacks from toad town, then sell everything you have besides your strongest bro moves and buy as many mushrooms as possible, the shroom pants and mushroom slacks give the wearer more pow for every mushroom based item in your inventory, mushrooms, mushroom drops, and 1-UPs and all their variants add to this counter, I don't know what the actual multiplier is for a max stack of every shroom, but it can result in killing the final boss in just 2 turns at level 22, so that would have made this much easier
That's not true, at least in US version, both of those pants give 0 pow. I tested the difference between no equipment and wearing shroom slacks on US version and it's the same damage.
@@TheMistermastermario I might have had the description of the equipment wrong, because I played the game again recently and the description was that the less mushroom you had, the more damage you do. Also I don't think the stats appear in the equipment menu and its an "in battle" difference. Unless being able to deal almost 500 damage with them equipped to the final boss is a bug, I still beg to differ. I might have the wrong equipment in mind, though, as the previous game had a badge with the effect instead of clothing.
@@DERPINATOR9999 That's the Risk Badge, which makes you do up to 3x damage depending on how many mushrooms you have. This is the highest damage multiplier you can get from badges in the whole game, but you need 0 mushrooms to get that much.
@@TheMistermastermario Ok, minor error on my part, thanks for staying cool about all this.
God I remeber I did this cuz I was scared of fighting enemies for whatever reason. Only difference I only upgraded stache cuz I saw crit chance and makes things cheaper. I was a dumb child
Star Hell and Star Heaven
6:12 people who don't know what that v word means; DO NOT LOOK IT UP IF YOU'RE YOUNG (12+)! if you are 12 or older, you can look at "read more" in my comment to get a vague explanation.
creatures eating other creatures, but not like normal eating like most animals
you are so underrated
Was that reference about Fry?
Indeed it was
I watched this video for the 12th time now (still not boring) :)
The reference was futurama
Ding ding ding, we have a winner
im going to sub and like so this video can blow up
Just a few days ago I did the same challenge (Low-Level challenge) and my strategy revolved entirely around giving Mario the Dire-POW badge (about a 2.5x damage multiplier on 1/4 hp) and stockpiling on Bros. Items (mainly Red Shells, Copy Flowers and Mix Flowers).
Ended up with everyone level 15 (only upgraded POW each level)
Funny note: I almost died on the final dodge challenge against Bowser and I didn't save before that, so if I died I had to redo both Princess Shroobs all over again (played on US copy, the one where Elder Princess Shroob has 8000 HP on the final fight)
If illusions don't count, neither should battles where the opponent survives in the cutscene.
I played pretty fast and loose with the rules in this, but future videos will have a rigid definition for what constitutes a kill
Wait wait wait the hammer bros in the vim factory shouldn’t be counted cuz they didn’t actually die in the overworld
Same with ms. Thwomp
And Baby bows amd bowsers
Yeah i know, i was unclear about what counts as a kill. It’ll be a lot more clear in the Bowser’s Inside Story video (whenever i get around to finishing it)
can u maybe give me the downoad link for the emulator and rom?
The emulator is the visualboyadvance and you can just look up "mario and luigi superstar saga rom" to find the rom.
@@CallenderMan thx btw keep this content up man maybe try doing bowsers inside story minimum kill run next maybe
I doing on emulator and like to battle each enemy in area lol
Bros items i use if more then 1 enemy if needed
Cool
shroob castle took 2 hours and elder princess shroob took 1 hour to beat on the first try i hate shroob castle
Can you do this with bowsers inside story please
I already did the gameplay for it, so the video should be out by the end of the year. There’s another challenge video that’s coming in the next couple weeks, too.
@@CallenderMan are you also going to do this challenge with dream team and paper jam
@@miloseal25 yeah, but those games are significantly longer, especially dream team, so I’ll probably have a few other challenge videos in between
@@CallenderMan OK cool this series deserves more support its so good there need to be more Mario and luigi challenges
@@CallenderMan Will both the Bowser kill count and M&L Kill count be separated? So like:
"Bowser Kill Count: (X number)"
"Mario & Luigi Kill count: (X number)"
Or will these kill counts be together?
i hate him
i have bad memories of that awful fawful... not a pun but its litterly his name
What?
So a speedrun lol?
hello there
Hi
pls do longer videos its way too short it should be like a hour
I guess you'll be happy to know that the Bowser's Inside Story video is gonna be like 40 minutes
Bad pun
Which one, I make many of them 😁
I love it when this game gets some love 🤩
Honestly, same. This was one of the first games that I had ever played and it's still one of my favorites
I take maximum kill challenge lol
Rip headphone users, this guy screams way too much
This guy should stop using the racist voice for sure
Racist voice?