Anyone Can Plaster?!!
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2017
- Do not be afraid to have a go!
With most of the loft conversion avoiding the need to plaster there were a couple of walls which needed a quick skim to get things ready to decorate.
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It is true that anyone can plaster, provided that they put the time an effort into working ut how to do it properly. I took a three week course and had pretty much got it down after the first week. Of course it takes years to learn all the secrets, and how to deal with all the strange problems that crop up. I worked briefly with a guy who had been doing it for 35 years, and his work was so awful that the woman fired him and had me finish, because she could see the night and day difference. The difference being that he didn't care, and that I do, not that I am some master plasterer.
I think you did a great job here! My only advice would be to always start from the top and work your way down, to work from one side to the other, and to not let the plaster dry as much in between coats. It's not a matter of timing, but of sensing when it's ready for the second coat, as drying time varies widely. Really old plaster can use as many as four or five coats of PVA in my experience, or it will dry too quickly, which may be what happened here. Even a seemingly uniform wall can dry very irregularly, so the PVA is an attempt to increase the unifomity of the drying period.
When do you put on the second coat? In my experience the first coat should still be wet to the touch, wet enough that your fingers and the trowel can still spread it, but not so wet that it leaves peaks where you touch it. It can be drier than this, but it makes it more difficult, though sometimes it's unavoidable on a large area, with a thirsty backing surface and a hot summer day. If it is too dry the second coat will not bond to the first, as if you are just applying a first coat to old dry plaster.
In terms of the finishing trowel, water is your friend, don't be afraid to get it everywhere, and just keep flattening/scraping it, letting it dry off a bit, then going again to flatten and smooth it. The finishing trowel should be done when the second coat feels cool but mostly dry, but you can still press into the plaster with a very firm finger. Any later than that and again it becomes difficult to get any of the plaster to mix with the water you are flicking onto it, which creates the sort of 'third coat' sludge filling in all the little imperfections.
As a plaster you have done a good job for a DIYer. You want to get your second coat on a bit faster and as your right handed start from the left as your trowel with naturally bend at the front the more you use it and will lose more line for you if you work from the left. Watched your videos for jobs that aren't my everyday job and really help me. Good work 👍
Yeah, you're right. Anyone can put it on (except not everyone can even do that) the trick is getting it to a good finish. And then getting the punter to pay you. I've never had a problem getting paid. The best tip I can give is pay a lot of money for your finishing trowel because that's your money maker. And look after it too.
Also, well done for having a go. I've had to reskim other so called plasterers work that wasn't a patch on what I'm seeing here. And they supposedly do it all day every day. Good on ya mate.
Iv done a fair bit of plastering for myself and family and it's a great idea to cover everything you can with old sheets or those plastic sheets you can buy for covering the floor when painting, also there great for containing the plaster dust when your plastering a room that doesn't have doors 😀 looks like your doing a great job in this video. I'm getting a van soon and I'm loving some of the conversion advice your giving too 👍
hi ya love ur vids, in my experiences with lime plaster it is a bugger to seal and is very high suction and you really need to seal it well with the pva or a primer. a tip to test the suction of a wall is flick water onto it with ur brush feel it with ur hand if it sucks in quickly and no water is on the surface its high suction if it runs down and feels wet to the touch its low suction pretty simple but some ppl just dont know. thats how i was taught. timings are very important. keep praticising on small walls u will be suprised how quick you get better and keep an eye on it by touch timing is key. also to get the plaster on ur trowel the technique is more about tipping the hawk to your trowel rather than trying to sort of pick it up with the trowel with the hawk at a too low angle and dont overload ur trowel this should help u make less mess but all about practice. a guy i would recommend looking up on here is Rwf 6607 awesome guy been plastering many years and happy to help diyers/begginers. he will give u some help if want some. hope my comments help and im not teaching how to suck eggs lol btw ive been subscribed for a while and the transformation of your home is excellent it shows ppl wot they can do if they put there mind to it 👍
Your vids are brilliant mate, i have just finished my house full renovation I wish I'd of seen your vids before would have made it a lot easier !!!! My plastering needed a lot of sanding down. Keep the tips coming pls.
Absolutely love your vids! The wife & I are doing a similar thing on an old farm house in Oxfordshire and have picked up a load of tips from you guys. Lime plastering all the way - and a bit of gypsum here and there too. Thanks a lot!
Love the t shirt...got one just like it.....good job on the plastering, proper job!
I think the message is, don't be scared to have a go! Great video as always. Looking forward to the spring and summer projects!
Absolutely! Best way to learn. Lots coming this year, just need to find the time!
Plastering looks so good my friend, I tried it many years ago and found it quite difficult,I'm doing up my sons house and need to get a
plasterer in,or try myself, but yours looks pretty good,well done ,
I can't stop watching your vids. They are great. I've just bought a Victorian house and can't wait to get my teeth into it like you have. By the way I'm a painter and decorator and wait until you have mist coated the plaster and fill out the trowel marks etc with gyproc easi fill. It's the white and green bag. It's a plasterers best friend.
Glad you like the channel. Yeah we do the same, have a bag of easifill here left from the ceiling. Hopefully it won't need too much!
A great standard of plastering for a novice, those skills would be envied by any amateur that has ever attempted to plaster anything. I often find when working on an older house know one expects perfection or things to ever go as planned so sometimes you just have to go with it. The wall looks great and even if there are a few areas you are no happy with to average person it will either be fantastic or it will be in keeping with the age of the house. With a light matt colour splashed on there even with loads of light coming through the velux windows you will not notice and others certainly won't.
We have a spare room where we have could not afford to get plastered at the time and where we were storing a lot of bits and bobs so thought not to bother. After removing the wood chip...ergh...we splashed some contemporary white around and left it as it was. The walls are pretty uneven and dinged in a few places which I notice and does bother me at times but know one else has ever noticed and in fact now we have furniture in there you certainly would struggle to notice. I suppose in some cases it can add to the character of the house and at worse it could provide a good source of conversation.
It took me 2 months to do research which included buying the tools. It took me 2 walls to get it to almost level 7, but on a small wall. You can definitely learn it, but you have to be very brave and get ready for hard work. As long as you do not do something crazy, you can skim the wall again. I did repair my two first walls with easy fill - just get easy fill runny and it will fill in the imperfections. Then do a couple of wet trowels over the areas with easy skim and a dry trowel and you will not even need to sand it. It does ad a lot of extra work, but you will fix your learning wall :) Once you do a wall perfect you will have a great sense of achievement. If you get systematic and with good system all will be easy with minimal mess. Area around my first wall looked like a big muddy puddle and I was covered with multi finish. With each wall there was less and less to clean. Remember keep the plaster wet with a spray bottle so you do not drag the trowel !!!
Well done, mate.
Having done some skimming on walls in the past, it's a tough gig. I'm a better plasterer than concreter, found that out the tough way last weekend!! Needless to say I've just picked up a few bags of self leveling cement to fix up my poor workmanship.
Love these videos, and appreciate the clever ways you solve problems.
I've done a fair wack of this too and it is not easy. You have done a fabulous job and hats off to you!! R & T
I always admire those who like to have a go themselves, you didn't do too bad there, you also managed to keep your working area clean which is hard to come by with some plasterers lol. Keep practising, friend!
This is by far the one job I am more than happy to let the pro's in on, especially on our high ceilings! That said it's always nice to know you can manage a wall or two when needed.
Great t shirt mate, Im going to do some skimming soon like you say in areas that light won't flood in and illuminate my lack of skill !! Top videos I'm glad am not the only one with a house in the renovation process
Good stuff! Your a braver man than I am to try that!
Got to be fair to you my friend that your plastering wasn’t too bad. Especially for a “beginner”, I say that politely. I just wanted to say that I am an absolute advocate of giving something a go and this is certainly one that isn’t for the faint hearted. You made it look easy, before I started being a professional plasterer I couldn’t even hold a hawk and trowel correctly, let alone getting a mix done correctly. You already displayed these. Brushing of the corners excellent too. I noticed your right handed which is what I would say 95% of spreads are. I’m left handed but learnt right handed. Keep it up. A couple of little tips to help your viewers and yourself if you wish.
1 general full bucket of water to 25kg, don’t over mix as it will cause the plaster to set faster. General rule is 20-25 minutes of life in the plaster bin before it picks up.
Start from left and work right (opposite if your left handed). Work from the top first down about half a meter/ 3/4 of a meter and then up. Immediately flatten. Apply second for traditional, we lay straight over the first coat immediately and then flatten.
Wait until it’s slightly tacky, 5-10 mins. Sponge it. Trowel straight away to remove sponge marks. Wait 10 mins and use a flex. Cleaning corners with your trowel and brush. Wait 20 mins for your final trowel, the polish. And wallah :)
I think you done a brilliant job and much better than my first ever attempt as well as some apprentices. Keep it up :)
Looks a good job. As you say, start with smaller areas before moving onto full walls and then ceilings. If someone can get the basics, a better finish and work method will definitely come with experience. A note on cleaning up, you should try using flexible buckets, wait until the remaining plaster has semi gone off and then break it out, the little bits left in the bucket will clean up easily. Removes the time pressure on washing up buckets and/or forgetting / getting there late and forever buying new ones.
I thinks its a cracking job . Well done
Was that pun intended?
Love that shirt!
Very useful video, thanks for sharing 👍
looks great! It's a real skill that is hard to master. Good to see you're going "solar" too.. haha
Looks like a good job to me! 👍
dear sir you are an absolute legend your way of explaining is so down to earth i have no other option but to subscribe i shall follow and learn and i thank you for having the balls to try things on our behalf star man
Have a look at: PLASTERING FORCE RWF 67. He looks at techniques and reviews plastering tool.
Personally, I think the beam thing is a good plan (I thought of something similar for a loft project and kind of wished I'd done it...)
Excellent videos,thanks
What is the best size van to have ? Want a lwb but do I get high roof or extra high ? Thanks
Look pretty cool how you have done that to the roof
Well done. Nice shirt.
Looks like a pro job to me, love the t-shirt too!
I'm pretty chuffed actually, it's not my strong point but now it's dry I don't think we will need to be hanging too many paintings up to cover it! :-)
I plastered a wall most is smooth however there are a few rough patches how come this has happened
That looks amazing man! I've been thinking of doing my own skim for a while now. How difficult are the edges around architrave etc?
Easier when they are off but not that hard. Just using a wet brush and working on the sides first works for me. It is the place where imperfections show up as hard to get in and around little bits.
Looked like an absolutely cracking job to me - no pun intended! :)
Nice work! Remember there is nothing that a bit of sanding and filling wont sort at decorating stage
U shouldn't sand plaster its a polished finish
Good effort just a bit of a tip for u in the future if u have the time try and block out any discrepancies on any area as even a 10mm hole can show through when painted it's good practice to also fill out any joints before u do your finish coats and scrim anything you might think will lead to a crack appearing 👍👍👍
Thank's for great tutorial video, keep posting please
Enlighten me please? I want to plasterboard all my ceiling and walls and I am not competent in plastering(never done before).
Would you advice to apply primer an drywalls and than to paint them or is still better to skim them?
Thank you for your answer.
Depends where you are and who's doing it. In teh UK it is common practice to board and skim, overall this gives a more durable finish but does rely on a plasterer. Otherwise drywall is more achievable as a DIY but can be quite time consuming and still needs a degree of skill to get nice. My usual advice is do all the prep and boarding and then have a pro do the skim.
Vadim Sirbu but if the boarding turns out to be bad get a pro to do that too we hate bad boarding and hate it when people say ahh the plasterer will get over that!! Have fun
Why is it important to complete screeding before bleedwater appear on the surface?
Have to agree with the man, anyone can plaster - it depends on what it looks like after lol - plastering is a fine art, and it takes lots of time to get it right
If it was a fine art it wouldn't be among the lowest compensated trades ..
@@cgavin1 thats down to penny pinching developers. They pay all trades low which is why they christened the trades, "crafts"! The starving artists are still here!
Iv been doing it for many years now it's really hard work and iv only just started to pick up the speed its deffo a art
Has anyone had issues putting multifinish over lime plaster before? In my flat even with three coats of PVA it seems as though the lime reacts with multifinish causing it to dry lumpy? I don't think it's my technique as I've done all of the plasterboard ceilings and they came out quite good
Nice top . I need one 😂
I am impressed, that plastering looks pretty good to me. It’s great that you have done it yourself, you have inspired me to try it myself.
Very good
Thanks
What's your recipe for the plaster? I'm in the states and It's hard enough to get ANY lime products, but we found a source for pure NHL and PHL limes. What aggregate can we use, sand? What's the water/lime/sand ratio?
Josh Targo this is gypsum plaster, you buy it in bags.not lime
so if you have no arms can you still plaster?
Looks pretty OK, don't think the average person will notice the marks & dinks when filled & painted
CAN YOU MAKE A "DIY BEGINNER PLASTERER TOOLS REQUIRED" VIDEO?
To be honest I wouldn't feel confident giving advice on plastering, I know enough to get by but that sort of video sounds like a magnet for trolls, or at least know it all's :-)
You can name the video - "Tools I use for Plastering - from DIY experience". No troll can troll that heading, hehehe. But honestly, being afraid of trolls is no good, we love your channel regardless.
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Looks good to me, You're Hired!!
You are right handed...... So you need to work left to right. A couple of dodgy spots at the end (Sand paper) But above all...... Not a bad job :-)
I got myself a marshalltown 11 inch trowel. Any wall I see I'm going to plaster the shit out of it.
In the future don't plaster gypsum over lime,,it will fall off and if a external wall it will cause damp issues.
It’s an internal wall and 70 years in and we have gypsum skims here that are stuck tight still. All external walls were restored back to lime for reasons you mentioned.
@@TheRestorationCouple I'm sure they are was just a heads up,,as a plasterer sometimes you can get away with it (if a customer insists) but can be a nightmare when it starts to peel off. Great channel wasn't trying to criticize and great first attempt at skimming as I've seen alot worse from so called trades 👍
I'm afraid it's like everything so people will be great others will never pick it up
Most plasterers on site don't bother with a 2nd coat lol£££££££
I realised how crap pva is after using sbr. Sbr is extremely water proof and the plaster sticks like shit to a blanket.
That was a disappointment at 4:30, I thought that you were going to do some silent juggling.
DEFINITELY one of my least favorite diy projects.
Not everyone can plaster that's a huge insult to us plasterers! As for your wall it's not bad if you skim an other walls start from the other side you're right handed so work left to right not right to left don't leave it as long between trowels usually only 15 mins is ample time but also add a little more water on your wet trowel and yes you was right about the cracked area it was because of it drying out too fast way to sort that is again splash the wall n trowel it but at same time don't leave it so long between trowels
mathew cowie sorry, not meant as an insult. Hence why the title is a question.?? Thanks for the tips. Don't worry, if you think you have it bad, try being a professional photographer for a living where every one with a smart phone tells me my job! 😀 TRC
Its not a huge insult... maybe to your ego..
You weren't born a plasterer were you? He doesn't mean it's easy, he just means anyone can learn, just like you did.
As a fellow plasterer I think you should calm down darling. He even says in the video that anyone can actually go through the process of plastering but doesn't mean it's a good finish. Nice effort mate
I have paid good money for lesser jobs than that, looks fine to me.
Easiest job going plastering a baby can do it
John British really? A baby? What do you do for a living?
you haven't got a clue its the hardest job on the building trade mate you wouldn't last a day, plus we haft to make good after all the other trades ie sparks, plumbers and diy'ers .
Pablo Salamanca Yeh plasterers and the decorators get all the shit putting all the crap work right from Sparkys, plumbers, joiners etc.
Properties built with lime products are usually designed to breath. Using plaster products undermine that design and no longer allow the building to breath. Restoration should be undertaken with lime products.
We use lime on our external walls however there is no reason why internal stud walls can't be gypsum. We have covered this in our previous videos. Also being a loft, breathable plaster would be a very bad idea especially on ceilings and increase risk of condensation.
Shave that shit off ffs.
Source: Fellow partition manager.
Too much boa bla
not everyone can plaster then lol
no scrim, you don't haft to cover screws that's just skimming get a proper plasterer been to many a disaster diy plastering jobs and cost them double
Wrong 😂😂
Anyone can spend all day plastering a 2 x 2 metre section badly. Yes.
Now have a go at a 30 square metre ceiling. It's a false economy.
Get good at what you do so you can afford to pay someone else to it for you better and quicker while your at work.
The title is an insult to a highly skilled professionals who spend a decade learning thier craft.
You need to listen to the video and read the title. We have paid plasterers for weeks to carry out work on the house. The question is can it be done DIY and my answer is yes but we would always use a pro to do full rooms and ceilings.
pay a pro like me self Jesus Christ
Carl Jones why?
Because most plasters love going on youtube and slagging people off for having a go themselves
that's so true mate..well said!
Are you religious? Strange name you have there.