The Kulture Study: STAYC 'Cheeky Icy Thang' MV

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Komentáře • 213

  • @sseraph777
    @sseraph777 Před měsícem +677

    a lot of people didnt get this one, but the girlypops ate it uppp. This whole album is fantastic, exactly what we needed and expected from StayC !!

    • @katiekawaii
      @katiekawaii Před měsícem +69

      That's kind of the way it always goes with them. They do something innovative, people have a knee-jerk reaction, and then they come to realize "oh, wait, that was actually amazing."

    • @talianiwa
      @talianiwa Před měsícem

      @@katiekawaiiyuppp!!

    • @veerakatariina2851
      @veerakatariina2851 Před měsícem +7

      It’s stayc or STAYC please write it correctly since it’s an acronym :)

    • @OceanChild728
      @OceanChild728 Před měsícem +14

      People who didn't like this song are usually the ones that are into very predictable music, if it was for them, we would never listen to something innovative.

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      ​@@veerakatariina2851it's STAYC girls it's going down bruh

  • @AXSofHFDS
    @AXSofHFDS Před měsícem +141

    this song is too smart for the casual kpop fan.

  • @BLINKGreenTeaAddict
    @BLINKGreenTeaAddict Před měsícem +297

    It's a grower. I didn't like it at first but now stuck in my head...cheeky icy thang...cheecy icy thang...

    • @J450U
      @J450U Před měsícem +1

      frr for mee

    • @lifeofrangcil
      @lifeofrangcil Před měsícem +1

      samee

    • @rianaynflo
      @rianaynflo Před měsícem +1

      sameee

    • @inawairuz87
      @inawairuz87 Před měsícem +1

      Haha we are in the same boat!!🤭

    • @hers6694
      @hers6694 Před 29 dny +1

      For me it’s the Isa’s chorus SPECIFICALLY that got me hooked😭 idk how I wasn’t already appreciating her vocal, but this literally opened up something in me

  • @lukedorney3933
    @lukedorney3933 Před měsícem +236

    if you get it, YOU GET IT

  • @eplecor
    @eplecor Před měsícem +130

    Music producer here…I think the reason the second chorus hits is because of the unorthodox song structure. As you mentioned, it’s a really long build to it, so not only are you anticipating it, but also already familiar with it the second time. The first time you kind of don’t know what’s going on and the second time it clicks. I don’t know if it’s by design (if so, genius) but I fucking love it.

  • @markkostecki4558
    @markkostecki4558 Před měsícem +325

    When BEP makes a song that makes you go “it’s good I think but really different” you just know youll be calling it genius in a week. Fr tho

    • @BLINKGreenTeaAddict
      @BLINKGreenTeaAddict Před měsícem +5

      I agree!!!

    • @katiekawaii
      @katiekawaii Před měsícem +5

      Always!

    • @reesereyes6986
      @reesereyes6986 Před měsícem +8

      that's true. it's so odd sometimes you'll have to keep listening to it. It's a trap. 😂

    • @eucabusas
      @eucabusas Před měsícem

      100% true. Didn't like the song at first particularly the 'ringa ma ding dong' line. Sounded like a lazy kpop songwriting to me but oh my god a few days after is just what I needed to listen to it on repeat!

  • @MiloCantTalk
    @MiloCantTalk Před měsícem +277

    They were warning us for like a month before it dropped, they were like "we are doing something DIFFERENT, a DIFFERENT sound, something you DON'T hear much in kpop" and I mean they were right

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem +3

      I think all of the girl groups are doing something different and fun

    • @zaman3399
      @zaman3399 Před měsícem +7

      @@DUNGSTA not all, i hear one of the group doing same like their successor.

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      @@zaman3399 they all have their own fun songs. Trust me bruh...

    • @tessie4698
      @tessie4698 Před měsícem +5

      @@DUNGSTA yes but a lot follow similiar styles and there's nothing wrong with that, the point is stayc really were preparing the listeners when they said this, they already knew it could come off oddly to the public

    • @liamcrowl8579
      @liamcrowl8579 Před měsícem

      @@zaman3399bm sneak

  • @user-ahksjakd
    @user-ahksjakd Před měsícem +156

    one of their best tt idgaf

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      Ain't no way

    • @user-id3qj8ks6g
      @user-id3qj8ks6g Před měsícem +12

      @@DUNGSTAwell atleast it’s better than teddy bear and bubble but that’s not exactly a tall order

    • @jamztheworld12
      @jamztheworld12 Před měsícem +2

      i seriously agree

    • @boodish
      @boodish Před měsícem

      fr

  • @ujungwjsn
    @ujungwjsn Před měsícem +84

    I LOVED IT ON THE FIRST LISTEN AND NOT MANY CAN SAY THATTTTT

  • @luvityinourcosmos
    @luvityinourcosmos Před měsícem +123

    I wasn’t sure about it at first but now I love it!! also fun fact: the “meow” sound in the song is actually seeun!

    • @giogioares5674
      @giogioares5674 Před měsícem +19

      girly got tortured to do it for hours and for several sessions lmfao

    • @jjbbswith
      @jjbbswith Před měsícem +9

      OMG YES SHE AND YOON PRACTICED IT TOGETHOR HAHAH

  • @cierralake
    @cierralake Před měsícem +72

    I agree, I really love Isa’s vocal tone singing the second chorus. For me, how bright her tone is really fits the vibe of the song and brings out the chorus more than the first time you hear it.

  • @talianiwa
    @talianiwa Před měsícem +48

    so sad so many people didn’t like this!! funky ass song that i think deserves a lot more recognition for how fun it is :)

  • @joaorodrigues7993
    @joaorodrigues7993 Před měsícem +115

    people hated it when it came out and i understand why people wouldn't like it, but it's so stayc and i immediately loved it. It's on the shorter side and honestly i don't mind it cause i think it would be too repetitive and boring if it went on for too long.
    Think it's a bit "underwhelming" considering its the title for their 1st studio album, but honestly i think it may be one of their best titles (but for me Run2U is still at the top)

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem +1

      I'll Be There bruh

    • @joaorodrigues7993
      @joaorodrigues7993 Před měsícem

      @@DUNGSTA i said title tracks

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      @@joaorodrigues7993 bruh over SO BAD?!

    • @joaorodrigues7993
      @joaorodrigues7993 Před měsícem +6

      @@DUNGSTA dude it's MY opinion, get over it lmao

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem +1

      @@joaorodrigues7993 it's literally the greatest debut song of all time!

  • @Not_Mady_
    @Not_Mady_ Před měsícem +47

    The song gives me 'RUN2U' vibes lowkey 😭

    • @blaccore
      @blaccore Před měsícem +5

      its like 'RUN2U's little sister

    • @winisning
      @winisning Před měsícem +3

      Run2u evil twin

  • @jshell
    @jshell Před měsícem +52

    It's killer. I've been aware of StayC but haven't ever really checked them out. But I can't get this out of my head. I love the song. I love the video. I really like the album. They really grabbed my attention.

    • @veerakatariina2851
      @veerakatariina2851 Před měsícem +4

      It’s stayc or STAYC please write it correctly since it’s an acronym :)

    • @jshell
      @jshell Před měsícem

      @@veerakatariina2851 sorry I’m new to them

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem +1

      Bruh they're like one of the best girl groups ever. You can even meet them at KCON LA!

    • @mellowmead
      @mellowmead Před měsícem

      Oh you have an amazing discography ahead of you, so excited for you ❤

  • @insomnia583
    @insomnia583 Před měsícem +53

    This song is so fun. I feel like i fell in a rainbow🌈⭐️

  • @JemuzuDatsWho
    @JemuzuDatsWho Před měsícem +50

    I know everyone is calling it different, but this just feels like a return to form for them to me... and it's absolutely fabulous.

    • @tessie4698
      @tessie4698 Před měsícem +9

      fr, i feel like this is different in terms of other current releases but the track itself feels very stayc to me

  • @SWITHVOCALS
    @SWITHVOCALS Před měsícem +34

    RISKY RING A RING DING DONG

    • @blaccore
      @blaccore Před měsícem +6

      i LOVE the chorus IM COOL AS ICE

  • @viki7268
    @viki7268 Před měsícem +15

    I love how the instrumental doesn't let up! It's so addictive and keeps you bumping. I love fast-paced songs that take you on a ride throughout the entire thing. Feels like the adrenaline rush you get from playing at the arcade

  • @Rosie-gd2mn
    @Rosie-gd2mn Před měsícem +8

    I feel like classically trained musicians definitely appreciate this song!

  • @beloutre4499
    @beloutre4499 Před měsícem +10

    What i really like in this song is how their voices were treated, in a way were each of them have a distinct sound, and so even if the chorus is the exact same, it feels completely different. Along with the sound "design" (the choice of instruments) this is, for me, what makes this song sooo good !

  • @antitititi-fragilefragile
    @antitititi-fragilefragile Před měsícem +57

    The most STAYC TT yet

  • @brucemico612
    @brucemico612 Před měsícem +9

    the girls that get it GET IT! love this song of STAYC!

  • @rkceron
    @rkceron Před měsícem +7

    Maybe the second prechorus sounds different because Sieun and Yoon are always the chorus singers in all of title tracks, and in that part they were the ones singing the second prechorus

  • @snowballglobe5176
    @snowballglobe5176 Před měsícem +21

    Along with Aespa, Dreamcatcher, NMIXX, and Kiss of Life, this is definitely my fav song of the year so far. It just got in my head and it hasn't left yet it's so catchy and so fun and im obsessed with the chorus

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem +1

      Bruh just pick one. Who's winning album of the year group of the year?

    • @user-oo5xn8uh6c
      @user-oo5xn8uh6c Před měsícem

      let's not forget artms 🩷

  • @lonestarseoul
    @lonestarseoul Před měsícem +8

    It took me a couple listens to get it, but once I did I was HOOKED. As a Run2U enthusiast I am really happy they have gone back to that sound. The cuter stuff, like Bubble and Teddy Bear, is great but I just love when they do stuff like So Bad and Run2U. It feels so quintessentially Stayc!

  • @sammy5146
    @sammy5146 Před měsícem +8

    I think this is the most enjoyable title track of STAYC, also the most addictive in my case. It's been a while since your last reaction to STAYC❤

  • @redeutteok1
    @redeutteok1 Před měsícem +5

    It’s an innovative music which i live for!

  • @jeonsstars
    @jeonsstars Před měsícem +17

    They really popped off this comeback. love the vid!!!

  • @juIiamachine
    @juIiamachine Před měsícem +6

    I absolutely love it! It’s like more fun and girly version of Run2U, my favourite title track along with Stereotype

  • @Ivanna051198
    @Ivanna051198 Před měsícem +9

    This whole album is a MASTERPIECE!

  • @eduqloo
    @eduqloo Před měsícem +5

    anna wintour said camp and stacy delivered 🫦🫦

  • @NiclasKPop
    @NiclasKPop Před měsícem +6

    A title track for the people of culture!

  • @andreapalladino1060
    @andreapalladino1060 Před měsícem +3

    To me it feels like a 2nd gen song and I love it. I can hear the early T-ara sound and the Brown Eyed Girls - Abracadabra voice distortion

  • @serbukmomogi
    @serbukmomogi Před měsícem +9

    I'm glad so many people agree that this song is actually good if u give it a time, it might not be the best title track from them but it's definitely not a bad song at all (+the album was a banger. as always.)

  • @sieunloversclub
    @sieunloversclub Před měsícem +6

    It's definitely the best title from STAYC

  • @user-qf3rd5qx4x
    @user-qf3rd5qx4x Před měsícem +2

    real music lovers get it and im glad to see

  • @el6700
    @el6700 Před měsícem +3

    It’s a grower, loved it after repeat on Spotify ❤

  • @oneshot-gm9fw
    @oneshot-gm9fw Před měsícem +9

    I had been Waiting for this stayc release for awhile. And in a scene where aespa new jeans and le sserafim have already released music recently. This tt was an amazing way to stand out and not sound the same. Love this songs energy

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      Can they even crush aespa? 🤔

    • @topzki47
      @topzki47 Před měsícem

      @@DUNGSTA”haha” 😂

  • @ohmyjuliaaa
    @ohmyjuliaaa Před měsícem +4

    It's easily in my top 3 tt from them.

  • @tulip135
    @tulip135 Před měsícem +49

    personally i thought this was a much better comeback than teddy bear and bubble, not sure why people are hating when it's literally their first good title release since run2u

    • @kcamui__
      @kcamui__ Před měsícem +20

      tbf, korea performance-wise, teddy bear and bubble were one of the hits and most replayed ones and i can see why. it has the usual stayc style of being bubbly, fun, and lighthearted while not having much complicated instrumentals and that seems to be what korea likes a lot.
      despite that, i could say that stayc still never missed a single title track since debut and they've always been bangers with different styles. they're offering us something different everytime that will surely fit everyone's liking.

    • @AverageMelody
      @AverageMelody Před měsícem +18

      i will not accept this teddy bear slander. and beautiful monster too

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem +19

      The disrespect for Beautiful Monster is unreal...

    • @damnigotitimiconic9209
      @damnigotitimiconic9209 Před měsícem +1

      I'm sorry but beautiful monster is clearly not a bad title track....

    • @jamztheworld12
      @jamztheworld12 Před měsícem

      i love all of their title tracks (except beautiful monster tbh) but cheeky icy thang is seriously good

  • @berryjens
    @berryjens Před měsícem +1

    i LOVE LOVE this song.. definitely one of my faves this yearr

  • @lily_bookmark
    @lily_bookmark Před měsícem +4

    idk why everyone (at least on pannchoa) hates it?????
    I LOVE IT from the first listen!!!!!
    as unique n good as RUN 2 U 😻😻😻

  • @Lunédiary-9
    @Lunédiary-9 Před měsícem +2

    The whole album is amazing ❤

  • @gelobongs
    @gelobongs Před měsícem +2

    I love Cheesy Icy Thang so much too! Like it on the first listen, and just kept falling in love with it the more I listen to it.

  • @BABYMONSTER_RAMI_RORA_AHYEON
    @BABYMONSTER_RAMI_RORA_AHYEON Před měsícem +3

    OMG !!! STAYC !!!

  • @reesereyes6986
    @reesereyes6986 Před měsícem +2

    Was waiting for your STAYC reaction for so long! 😁 Finally, it's here. ❤

  • @RORA_AHYEON_RAMI_BABYMONSTER
    @RORA_AHYEON_RAMI_BABYMONSTER Před měsícem +2

    Yes !! STAYC !!!! 😄

  • @jforkink1581
    @jforkink1581 Před měsícem +1

    I don't get how people don't like it. Cheeky icy thing is soooo StayC

  • @Gowonmother
    @Gowonmother Před měsícem +1

    Since one of my friend pointed out that it sounds like a splatoon hero mode song I cant unhear it- but it’s just so so good StayC did that again

  • @Marky.Valdez
    @Marky.Valdez Před měsícem +7

    Big difference for me between the two choruses were the lyrics. The second chorus had more English. Don’t know why, but I def noticed. However, I felt the first chorus sounded better 😭

    • @harithhakimi6868
      @harithhakimi6868 Před měsícem +4

      Ikr the way sieun say “bartender” make the chorus more boom

    • @zara7302
      @zara7302 Před měsícem

      @@harithhakimi6868isn’t that part the pre chorus?

  • @ceoofkpop
    @ceoofkpop Před měsícem +1

    I loved this song on first listen, it’s such a banger. STAYC DOES NOT MISS 🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @Pdidit09
    @Pdidit09 Před měsícem +3

    🦊JUST 🐯SLAYC 🐩 DOING🐱 SLAYC 🐶THANGS 🐰...Metamorphic indeed

  • @IrmaGonzalez
    @IrmaGonzalez Před měsícem +4

    Been waiting for this oneee

  • @winisning
    @winisning Před měsícem +1

    I’m so glad somebody likes cheeky icy thang as much as I do

  • @oyCZAR
    @oyCZAR Před měsícem +1

    This is my jam!

  • @NeedForMotivationn
    @NeedForMotivationn Před měsícem +2

    This album is AOTY for me rn. I had no skips and enjoyed all of them. I especially liked Beauty Bomb

  • @grace.christina
    @grace.christina Před měsícem +1

    I love this song it’s so camp and unlike majority of other kpop releases currently. Like it’s giving T-ARA.
    I think the second chorus hits harder for you because you’re expecting it, whereas the first chorus comes on pretty early in the song so you aren’t sure if it’s a chorus or not. The members delivery too, Seeun has a softer tone than Sieun and there’s more English in the second chorus which is more common in kpop choruses

  • @SpeedNglx
    @SpeedNglx Před měsícem +2

    a BANGER 🔥

  • @mikodiane8547
    @mikodiane8547 Před měsícem +3

    I wish you'd react to the whole album esp 1 thing because the b sides are so good

  • @AverageMelody
    @AverageMelody Před měsícem +3

    when the title track was first revealed, i reaaaally wasn't sure how to feel about it. but like they said, don't judge a book by it's cover. this is amazing. it's wacky and weird but it's so pleasing to the ears
    also the album, 10/10. if your album of the previous decade was BTOB - Brother Act, STAYC - Metamorphic might be the album of this decade.
    I heard a lot of people not liking Gummy Bear though which is a bummer as it is literally my top 1 stayc song ever

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      Bruh what about aespa's Armageddon?!

    • @AverageMelody
      @AverageMelody Před měsícem

      @@DUNGSTA I don't know, i haven't heard it yet

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      @@AverageMelody what are you waiting for?!

  • @jabbydanielquezon6979
    @jabbydanielquezon6979 Před měsícem +2

    I think the structure is similar to ASAP where the prechorus didn’t feel like a prechorus at first but it did feel like it after while

  • @jasminebrown4201
    @jasminebrown4201 Před měsícem +3

    the girls that get it GET ITTTTT i dont understand the hate ;(

  • @jace9702
    @jace9702 Před měsícem

    been waiting for this reaction!! thank you so much for a positive review on Cheeky Icy Thang

  • @kristinayushko1960
    @kristinayushko1960 Před 10 hodinami

    Still waiting for album review - this thing is fenomenal!

  • @brucemico612
    @brucemico612 Před měsícem +1

    surprisingly good title track from STAYC! slayc for sureeeee

  • @heenjiners
    @heenjiners Před 29 dny

    i admit its not my fav title from them but at the same time its so undeniably stayc

  • @kabakmarlon8609
    @kabakmarlon8609 Před měsícem +1

    bro you look so young ... nice haircut... good to see you back

  • @LePsychicSidekick
    @LePsychicSidekick Před měsícem +6

    This song is so perfect for the casual kpop fan. It comes off unassuming but its perfect for easy listening and looping in the background.
    This is exactly how I feel with April's "Oh my Mistake", because that song ended up being my most streamed kpop song few years back.

  • @lauduran3178
    @lauduran3178 Před měsícem +1

    Love this song so muuuuch!! ❤

  • @soobler
    @soobler Před měsícem +1

    this song is for smart people fr.. u need to GET it to really get it ykwim

  • @leastselfawarepotassium
    @leastselfawarepotassium Před měsícem +1

    Such an amazing song. Anything out of the ordinary doesn’t seem to do well these days so will be interested to see how it is seen long term.

  • @attilakanalas7407
    @attilakanalas7407 Před měsícem +2

    I think the difference its the pre choruses lyrics, and the second pre-chorus hits harder. I GO EASY ON ICE THO! ❄️🍦

  • @RORA_AHYEON_RAMI_BABYMONSTER
    @RORA_AHYEON_RAMI_BABYMONSTER Před měsícem +1

    STAYC ??!! Heck yeah !!!

  • @denypratama3658
    @denypratama3658 Před měsícem +1

    The song is definetely a grower... I am not a fan on first listen, but you know it definetely addicting whenever it comes on the shuffle. and I ended up enjoyinng it....
    But it just, it just need bridge, or something longer before the ending pose...
    but the whole album slaps. so mmany different sounds and styles.

  • @naurrr
    @naurrr Před měsícem

    this song is so addicting. I'm mad that it's not a minute longer

  • @moodyangel
    @moodyangel Před 13 dny

    It’s soooo fun. It’s like a sassy shot of espresso.

  • @Casquillo8520
    @Casquillo8520 Před měsícem

    Was waiting for this reaction

  • @jumanak4750
    @jumanak4750 Před 4 dny

    The mv looks like a mashup of all previous Twice mvs, you can see the inspo there

  • @environmentaly7894
    @environmentaly7894 Před měsícem +4

    I got it 1st listen its soooooo cunty but so short

  • @alexishcodealexishernandez2356

    Están jugando con nuestras mentes !!! 😅❤

  • @starrynightmp3
    @starrynightmp3 Před měsícem

    you’re so right

  • @zara7302
    @zara7302 Před měsícem +3

    the main difference with the 2 choruses i also realised straightaway is definitely isa’s BRIGHTER tone compared to sieun? i also feel like it’s way louder than sieuns chorus

  • @reeflective
    @reeflective Před měsícem

    AHHH IVE MISSED UR STAYC VIDS

  • @sstrawberryangel
    @sstrawberryangel Před měsícem

    i love how it literally never stops, non-stop bop

  • @varudulc
    @varudulc Před měsícem

    THIS BECAME AN INSTANT FAVORITE FOR ME

  • @Alena-cq1ze
    @Alena-cq1ze Před měsícem

    I wasn't sure at the first watch, but upon pd's second listen, I got it.

  • @teukuilhamrabbani2964
    @teukuilhamrabbani2964 Před měsícem

    "RUN 2 U" was my favorite song of theirs so far. This is the fun version of "Run 2 U"

  • @amargurung9091
    @amargurung9091 Před měsícem +2

    For me its not even on top 3 in this album lol, i dont know if i have to be happy or sad lol
    My top tt by them
    1- so bad
    2- asap
    3- beautiful monster
    4- run2u
    5- stereotype
    6- cheeky icy thang
    7- poppy
    8- lit
    9- bubble
    10- teddy bear
    Fav song
    Love fool
    Complex
    Twenty
    Ill be there
    These all are first, love fool might be my fav

  • @alypixxie
    @alypixxie Před měsícem +3

    pd i need you to do some kiss of life reactions please~ at the very least you should do sticky since it was just released

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před měsícem

      Too much twerking bruh

  • @vannessjimenez4696
    @vannessjimenez4696 Před měsícem

    IM SO HAPPY, I THOUGHT YOU FORGOT ABOUT THEM😭😭😭😭

  • @pannatat.k6542
    @pannatat.k6542 Před měsícem

    my most favorite stayc's song lol

  • @STAYCBias
    @STAYCBias Před měsícem +1

    Baby monster forever dreamcatcher justice please I begging you!!!! 🙏 🙏

  • @lily_bookmark
    @lily_bookmark Před měsícem +1

    from Aespa, NMIXX, to StayC today's top gg are full of talents!!!!

  • @6012reasol
    @6012reasol Před měsícem

    i clicked on the video not expecting to like the song, i got to the first chorus still not liking it, then before i realised it i was bopping along!!! it’s such a bouncy fun sound and it immediately stuck in my head after only listening a couple times

  • @sandywawaw
    @sandywawaw Před měsícem +2

    Next DREAMCATCHER - JUSTICE 🙂

  • @mans5676
    @mans5676 Před měsícem

    TBH Seeun and Sumin are singing the pre chorus , Same with sieun and yoon. Sieun sings the first chorus and isa sings the 2nd one

  • @yato5917
    @yato5917 Před 7 dny

    aside from master BEP, I don't know any other producers that makes RETRO music sound this good
    oh wait, 250 comes close

  • @SinVVV
    @SinVVV Před měsícem

    The momentum and the reason the second chorus feels different is because the overall production of the song is very static (as opposed to being dynamic), so your ears (brain) literally haven't gotten used to the fact that its the chorus you're listening to until the second time around.
    You can tell that this song is not going to be popular because its not mainstream enough and its very different from their previous stuff. Its too bad cause the song actually bangs, although it is a grower for some.

  • @JazzyPuppyB
    @JazzyPuppyB Před 26 dny

    Im so mad i didnt listen to this cause i hated the title but its a certified bop for sure