Front Porch Step - The Rise and Fall
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- čas přidán 26. 11. 2020
- Front Porch Step - The Rise and Fall
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Of musicians active in the 2010’s, it’s tough to find an act with a reputation as mixed and infamous as that of Jake McElfresh. Over time, his name has become synonymous with cancelled musicians and those who are a danger to the scene.
A glance at his wikipedia page will reveal a brief history of Front Porch Step as well as some of his “controversies”. But these scant few lines of text fail to showcase the depth and severity of his transgressions throughout his career.
So who is Jake McElfresh? And what made him fall so hard?
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Hello there my mates, I hope you have all been well. I wanted to take a second to thank you all. This year has been crazy and this channel has reached heights I didn't think we'd reach so fast. I know words only go so far, but from the bottom of my heart, just know how thankful I am for all of you.
-Nate
Twitter : @camerahat
What artist should I cover next in the series? -Nate
fredo disco
You :P
The way you call this a “series” is weird
@@smiileyfase how come?
@@NateTheMateForever if the purpose of this is to inform people then why are you asking people who they want you to “cover next”? at that point you’re telling people things they already know (or at least just putting more detail into the things they already know) while bringing up all this harmful weird stuff up again, when in reality many people just haven’t thought about this situation which is the way it should be. Like everyone knows this dude is hella “cancelled” what else is there to talk about.
“Rise and fall” is loosely translating to “Did weird stuff with underage girls”
Bro what... really??
“No one wanted to be in a band with him” potentially some foreshadowing there?
my thoughts exactly. In s hot topic interview he said those words exactly haha
Fr
Just maybe lol👀👀
@@NateTheMateForever that should be damning, he's from Ohio there were plenty of people getting into emo/pop punk bands at that time. He was probably just a douchey creep in general the whole time.
yeah my band’s been looking for a drummer but the only one i know is uh.. suspect at best. sure hope he doesn’t end up like this guy
I feel hella old that you had to describe what Warped Tour is
It’s sad haha
Same haha
same
Dude for real. I was at one of the ones he played it was the first time hearing him ngl I cried
Right 😅😅
"very, very brutally honest lyrics"
"you are the gum under my shoe"
Jake is a total incel 😂
Shoutout to the dude who called him out at Warped lmao
"Women under 18" .... we call those girls...
Its concerning how many stories like this there are in the scene. Really sucks...
Where there's power & money, there's often evil and corruption lurking just below the surface. Not always, but usually - and it's sad.
@Harry McNamara Right on. It's strange that these types of stories almost rarely unfold in mainstream music.
not just this scene. This is just one of the only scenes that cares enough to hold people accountable
@@LordOfDhara Yeah, very strange to me. I wonder if it's just because there's a lot of women in it? Idk though. Pop, hip-hop, electronic, and country have plenty too so IG in those scenes it's much more laid back. Then again, that recent Bassnectar incident got pretty damn bad.
@@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 r kelly, Michael Jackson, Melanie Martinez, Billie joe’s son, nothing but thieves, bring me the horizon, sixnine, xxxtentacion, Chris brown, David Bowie, Marilyn Manson, etc
I like these Rise & Fall episodes.
They remind me how shitty this scene is sometimes.
thanks Quentin!
@@NateTheMateForever Welcome!
@@beansfebreeze *shitty this scene is a lot of the time :/
@@beansfebreeze It’s not that this scene is particularly shitty. It’s that the fans in this scene have morals and stand up for them. We don’t allow rapists to get off easy. Look at rappers and rock n roll bands with loads of allegations. Nobody in those scenes talks about that shit.
The real worst part about this is, this kind of stuff always happens with artists who make emotional music or talk about things like mental illness, depression, anxiety and such. It's kind of scary if you think of it, how a lot of people put their trust on these artists because their music help them go through some real problems
Yeah, not everyone is perfect though. Jonny Craig still somehow has a fanbase and I'm pretty sure he hasn't changed very much.
Yikes, how about hip-hop artists like Gangstarr tho? Especially their song Moment Of Truth?
What's even worse is the bullshit religious facade he put up when the allegations came out. He was just like "Im getting better cause God saved me you can't judge me"
Yes this happens to often I cant say 100% but I'm pretty sure Adam Lazzara is a stand up guy. Also wanted to say it's really bad when you hit mega famous you can do way worse and its quickly forgotten for example Michael Jackson disgusting human but he is the King of Pop so ..
I usually find it’s often weak men who would call themselves feminist and project their morality down others throats on Twitter. I mean people are already doing it in the comments. Then blame the acts on “my anxiety and I’m depressed” when caught. The people who often yell or project the loudest of what they hate, usually are the ones doing it. Many of the reason I don’t buy into many of the moralistic claims these people think they believe. These aren’t jock types doing these acts. They’re mostly weak pathetic anxiety driven men who take an opportunity to place dominance on someone. I think the reason people project their morality so much on others is because it’s easy and allows those doing these horrible things the distraction from fixing themselves.
This is really the one artist where I have trouble separating him from his art. When it's one band member it's like "okay, but that isn't the whole band", but he literally is.
with stuff like Jank I can separate them but when their musical identity is so mirrored by continuing abuse, it’s nearly impossible to separate it.
McCafferty for me is hard to separate
Also, forget to mention that the hardcore band Stray From the Path wrote a song about him. It's called D.I.E.P.I.G
"hardcore"
@@SexyAssDanny4 fair enough
I will never forget when I met this douche at warped, I was a big fan of his and had been getting friends into his music for a bit. After watching his acoustic set i lined up at his merch table and was pumped to grab a shirt and talk to him. When it was my turn I picked out a shirt and as I'm pulling money out of my pocket I'm trying to say the typical your music helped me through rough times and i appreciate you spiel, he cuts me off mid sentence to say "The shirt is $20 not $15". I was well aware of that and was literally still hand deep in my pocket getting more money, he didn't even respond to what I said. The contrast of him being overly friendly with younger female fans in front of me compared to practically rushing me away is pretty creepy with the context.
“I have two daughters” is a really bad excuse for harbouring a predator, as a matter of fact it makes you look even WORSE
There’s no doubt he’s got issues and you can charge him with a crime but that’s bout it. All ppl are gonna need a job and I mean I’d hire prior felons. Felons need work to or they will end up at square one. I get he’s famous and that is said to be powerful. But again. Charge him with a crime or don’t. If not we’ll... off to warp tour Also as gross and unfortunate all this is. Dudes also allowed to play guitar until the moment he’s thrown in jail 🤷🏻♂️. I think he should continue to play music. He’s great at it. If I owned a record company I wouldn’t get rid of him. That’s just not how the world works nor should it. Alll ppl need work and I’d be happy to help anyone get and maintain a job. Now if he’s convicted of a crime he can do time. And when he’s out. Back to music. But instead of getting mad at him having a job just get upset nobody brought an end to his behavior by pressing charges and get mad at his behavior but not that he continues to play music
there is a guy with mental issues and the organizer had the last nail. he couldve just denied him the opportunity, and bury him, but he gave him the chance not only for playing, but for the guy to realize himself he wouldnt be able to be in that world anymore like he used to. imo, that was the whole point of letting him do that as therapy
This guy got Brand New'd hella bad. I enjoy his music, it just feels weird to enjoy knowing what he's done...
aha what's funny is, he actually got "cancelled" a couple years before BN. He really pioneered getting cancelled and ruining your career over the internet. A trailblazer you could say
@@NateTheMateForever True that mate, btw, it’s good to be subscribed to a creator with the same obscure music tastes as me ✌️ keep up with the content!
if anything Brand New got FPS-ed. Brand New was still a darling in the scene when this happened. Jesse just turned out to hiding a lot and that he wasn't a good dude.
@@joshhale9355 I thought Jesse said he had a sex addiction and went to therapy?
@@itsbekasaur but some of the fans were still wondering about how his victims still felt.
man, wtf. this dude was such a big inspiration of mine, for years i even covered his songs endlessly to help me through my shit times- i wish i never seen this vid 😭
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Es por esto que es importante separar el arte del artista.
I’ve heard about this guy. I read on Wikipedia on how he did/said some foul stuff to some minors. It put a big dent in his overall career.
i think it permanently ended things for him tbh. he can always release music, but he'll never reach the same level again
“Women under 18” G I R L S under 18 FFS
While I think it’s important to separate the art from the artists, there are certainly artists who will use their art to manipulate and abuse. Excellent video series, keep it up!!
I remember when this story was breaking years ago. The whole scene completely turned on this guy once these stories came out.
Yeah haha, I haven’t seen anything like it since. It’s insane how much the FPS situation blew up; especially in terms of mainstream coverage
@@NateTheMateForever I remember him being one of the first big abuser stories that led to plenty of others coming forward. Seemed like everything changed in just a couple months.
Love your content man! Thanks for covering these stories!
I remember Soupy from The Wonder Years making a public comment on either Twitter or Instagram back when all of this first started coming out that was basically the equivalent of, "Fuck you, we don't want you in our scene" to FPS. The whole scene sort of rallied around kicking him out ASAP.
It was easy to. Dude was a poser with shitty music from the get go. Never actually met anyone willing to admit they liked him when he was a thing.
I was a total fan girl from the very beginning until the fall. I saw the raw, sad boi personality and lyrics as humble and quirky. Turns out it was just manipulating sad boi projection and life long rejection. I don’t think his gram would approve of his actions.
I played in handguns on the pure noise tour and the highlight of that entire tour for me was seeing jake get beat the fuck up by a bunch of hardcore people and have to play the rest of the tour with a black eye.
Dude Handguns were my shit in high school. Thanks for the great music.
I need to see a video of that
Yikes
Lmao i think i met you while buying handguns record in a hot topic in ny state
king shit. miss you dudes killing it out there
Absolutely love this channel. Rise and fall is probably the best of it, but I seriously dig every vid
Never clicked clicked on a Nate The Mate video so fast
Appreciate ya Jess
Really such a sad fulfillment of the "warped tour act that is into underage girls" trope. I hate that this has happened enough for it to be a trope in the first place.
How often does it happen
@@AikiraBeats a lot. i can name at least 10 band members off the top of my head
I remember being in high school and my best friend telling me to listen to 'aware' during lunch and immediately could not stop listening to it, only for a few months later all this comes out. The same thing happened for me with Brand New and Mccaffery. It's unfortunate these stories are becoming more & more common but at least more light is being spread on the issue of sexual harassment, assault, etc.
I love these rise and fall series so much! Keep them going :)
These rise and fall videos are the best! I love your content!
Your videos have been a wonderful source of information in a scene I'm very interested in and inspired by. Keep up the wonderful content, and thank you Nate :)
Here it is! Been waiting for this!
I agree I like these "series" and makes me more of aware of what is happening. Keep it up! I really like your content.
The rise and fall stuff is what keeps me coming here
left out the part about him claiming christianity and refusing to apologise to the girls he manipulated. other than that, solid-ish video.
Ew. I'm not suprised he'd claim Christianity though.
"Aware" was such a good album too... bummer.
Sad story. Thanks for detailing what happened, I know the gist but it’s always nice to see these to understand the ins and outs even just a little better. I hope his victims are recovering well.
Amazing video as always Nate, much love dude hope you're well 💙
Thank you for covering this.
of course, Jocelyn. thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
Hope you good and safe
Great stuff man, keep em coming
Always love the videos!
Damn just came across his music and enjoyed it, wanted to check out more, when I saw your vid. What a ride
Another great video, keep up the good work nate! If you haven’t already you should do a video on Luke rockets from with confidence
This is one of my favorite pages to watch on CZcams!!
I love your videos man!! They’re rad
Been waiting for this one
I was never a major fan of his music, but I did love the track “Drown”. It’s a real shame to his big fans; I’m sure the majority of them are either disgusted or disappointed. Best wishes to those who suffered because of his actions.
When Kevin let him play the warped date, The Wonder Years added You're Not Salinger, Get Over to their set that day. "We're finding out some scummy fuck just threw it in a fifteen year old, I mean come on man, is that the life you want?"
You're legit one of my favorite channels. I'm surprised you haven't blown up yet. Keep up the good work! I'm sure all the hours of work will pay off big time in the future
thank you so much! I certainly hope so, I'd love to be able to create full time in the future. Something I'm working hard towards.
Nate the goat best believe daaaat
@@NateTheMateForever plz come back
I remember discovering him at the time, with "Drown". The comments of the video were still there. I loved the song and after some time, i came back to it. By that time comments were disabled and i realized that was his last work at the time, so i looked more info about him and ran into some of what you told in the video but very briefly. I still comeback to that song from time to time (months), and today your video was in the recommended section of the song.
Its sad to know all of this, he was really awful. I want to think he became awful for being lonely but it turns out that he had a girlfriend of his age, he knew what he was doing was wrong, he knew it could fucked up his whole career and he did it anyway. Cant feel sorry for someone like him, not saying i dont but i shouldnt, he dont deserve it.
Dont know if i could ever even listen to his song the same way again, sad day people.
Stoked for the lostprophets episode
Oh boy
The first 2 albums are still great and they were a band not Ian alone. Long live lostprophets 🙌🏻
Yeah, the music I can’t resist, especially their earlier material. I usually imagine somebody else singing the song rather than... y’know...
@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 I wish I could lol they're literally the only band where I can't separate the art from the artist. What he did was beyond sickening. I mean, that is a true monster. So gross and disgusting.
@@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 I remember the band and a journalist saying he started to act weird and his addictions took over his persona around days of the tour for the 3rd album. So I only listen to the first 2 and imagine the band split after the second. I skip the mental health issues boosted by heavy drug use Ian has
Love your videos man. Keep up the great work.
Great video Nate! I only discovered FPS recently on a playlist and really liked it, right up until I googled him a minute later.
oh no way! that's funny haha
Been there. Happened with jank for me
If you liked FPS don’t be upset. You can find any local musician playing emo songs when shows start that suck just as much. I swear every show I go to has some shitty local dude playing acoustic songs that are never good just like FPS. “I’m fat, no ones ever liked me because I suck at everything. Cry for me then we can cry together....” 🤮🤮🤮
Very informative and unbiased as always.
Tysm for this r&f.!! Love your content dude. My request would definitely be TylerCarter next..?
I’ll never forget the half assed apology he posted on Facebook before quitting and leaving the scene and just watching him get wrecked in the comments live. I really liked his music but just stopped listening as soon as everything about him came out.
I can't believe people defend him after all this. Say what you want about folk punk as a genre, but in comparison we are NOT this forgiving.
Bro thats a whole fact. You should see the comments under his videos now. People really talking bout what he did like it was a minor fucky wucky
@@rabbittz people will justify anything these days. I feel dirty listening to his music now. I hate that he's taken that from me.
@@susanmurphy2750 i used to be able to talk about how his music meant alot to me especially cause of what I was going through at the time but after that come out. I can't. It feels gross just think that I was comforted by a child predator
That was a really good video good job 😃
This one is very personal to me cause his album aware came out when I was feeling very depressed and going through alot of hard times, it felt like this cathartic experience that tackled directly alot of the stuff I was going through and I would find myself constantly listening to the album as a whole for a good month to the point where it became one of the only albums ive memorized the lyrics too. I was always looking foreword to how he might expand as an artist and was especially pleased by the direction his EP went with more produced music only for the harsh reality of how awful a person he was coming out shortly after, because of all that shit he pulled the album became tarnished to the point where those personal attachments feel dirty tied to a man like that. It ended up being the one of the few albums where I simply cant seperate the art from the artist due to how personal the album felt to him. It was an introspective album from an unfortunately very sick man and its impossible for me to shake that.
Havent listened to it since then, but despite my absolutely godawful memory, I still could sing the entirety of drown year right now even without hearing it in about half a decade
😣
Island of misfit boy, angle and demons, the day you took my good way still on repeat for me
I remember becoming a fan as soon as Aware came out. Shit, I was at the AZ date for Pure Noise Tour jamming during his set.
I've been able to "Separate the Artist from the Music" before. But I just could not listen to him anymore. I never honestly looked into the texts. Though after seeing this, I stand by how I still feel about him.
Actually had If I Tremble played during my wedding ceremony in 2014. Was gutted when I found out about his shenanigans and feel the day was kinda marred having his tune be part of what was a special day. F’ing dirty dude.
Literally found this band and was getting into them today and then this video pops up in my recommended
great video, nate
I swear, these thumbnails get progressively better as the video is up.
As an acoustic/emo/indie, whatever you call it musician, who writes and records and performs very similar things to these people who have been outed as being abusive, manipulative, or being inappropriate with underage fans, its downright embarrassing to us who who make art similar to them. Writing overly emotional acoustic songs about personal things is a way to cope with our experiences, but using it to cope in negative ways sets up this scene for a lot of stereotypes. I hope these survivors get the help they need in order to safely move on.
This happens in my local scene as well, which sucks. One of my bands photographers, who is underage (like most of our members, including me at the time) was groomed by an adult man who was in the band we opened for. It’s so sad seeing people with power, especially musicians, take advantage of people with their power.
IM SO TIRED OF THE RAIN
FALLING SOFLTY ON 15 YEAR OLDS
17:50 Jesus Christ even from the video the looks that guy got for saying that are terrifying. Crowd mentality is a scary thing
Yes...
Out of curiosity are you going to do a video on the new slaughter beach dawg record??? Loving the rise and fall series, lost prophets would be a good but very disturbing one to do
Dude stop introducing me to music this way
My old band played Warped Tour on the same stage as this guy. I got weird vibes from him. Anytime a young girl would talk to him, you could see his eyes change.
Every young girl was a target, not a human being. Homeboy is a predator, and I highly doubt he'll change.
What band were you in?
Do a episode of something about camping in alaska
I live here and camp every summer it’s pretty but a whole lotta mosquitos hahaha
Do one on the blood on the dance floor guy, The Drummer from Pierce the veil also.
the state champs, handguns, fps show was fantastic
Literally tired to sue someone for something only he did.. only he ruined his image. What an absolute narcissist.
Weirdo fumbled the bag smh 🤣
I literally just found this dude.....i missed all of this
N8 posts! Miss your uploads mate. \m/
i can separate the art from the artist to a certain extent, I'm ignorant when it comes to a lot of these musicians, so thanks Nate for providing actual reasons to not support someone besides just heresy and theories.
Never even heard of them but yk I'm gonna watch cuz its nate
1 minute in and im already mad
I am begging you to discuss pwr bttm next
I feel old because I was in highschool when all of this happened and I remember it was a big deal in the scene. A lot of local bands for months after that would always shout out saying fuck him during the shows
I literally just did a deep dive on him after one of your brand new videos.
Good Kev Lyman’s known to time and time again let shady artists continue to play his shows. He wouldn’t get his hands dirty until the criticism got too loud.
jeez 6 years ago, i remember him getting banned from the first (and only) warped i went too. time flies lmao
he looks like nickado avocado the gall of this man
Touring with this dude was the most punishing experience of my life
what’re the stories from that??
Tell more plz
I loved his music as a teen but honestly.... his music is the feeling of being absued by a high school boyfriend
Omg 😭💀
I hate to say it, but we now need a Beach Slang rise and fall episode
This ^
I used to ride the school bus with autumn. She lived in a house near my subdivision in Missouri.
This is all so bad. Anyone under 18 do not talk to anyone you don't know in real life. Especially if the claim they're from a band or something else you look up to. They'll take advantage of you for one and for two, there's no way of verifying if they are actually who they claim to be anyways. If someone is in a band or popular in social media, etc., they're abusing their position of power to talk with you and probably abuse you.
Great vid. It Answered a lot of my questions. For the love of god though, can you change that elevator music, please 🙏🥺
The music is killin me bro wtf
I jumped on this video so fast
me and my best friend fell in love with the album aware and each of those songs got us through freshman year of high school, its such a shame to see jake turn out this way its fkfkfjfbbddj its blegh
So weird, saw this video posted this morning, forgot about it and was at a record store today, bought a 45 inch record not knowing who Front porch step was, I got “Front Porch Step, Whole again” 45 inch started listening to it and was amazed at how good it was. I hope watching this doesn’t ruin a good artist for me😫
Have u turned the vinyl into a bowl yet?
I CALLED. 46. TIMES.
And you answered on the 47th.
-New Found Glory
Young people don't know what 'love' is. Growing up we called it 'puppy love', meaning it was all physical attraction and mutual narcissism. Most of the time, young love is dumb and loud, whirlwind passions, big talk and immature hearts and understandings.
When you don't win the genetic lotto, you carry a victim complex and you project it onto everyone, looking for confirmation in every action, word and even in silence. When nothing is wrong, you'll find something to BE wrong or you'll DO something wrong to sabotage what you're scared of. Today's generation thinks about themselves too much and they're BOMBARDED by input. Darkness seeks it's reflection constantly and to the defiled, all things are defiled.
textbook groomer acting like he is the victim. electric chair.
I'm so fuckin mad to know this guy is still making music
that part at 16:37 scared me hahah
do tyler carter next