I also have the edge and have done a total of 3 runs in them; a relaxed progressive 10k, a 30k training run and a 1/2 marathon race. I'm not sure why a lot of testers believe they are more suited to the 1/2 and below, I had no issues with these over 30k' and the stability felt better than the Adios Pro 3's they replaced. Can't recommend them enough.
That’s great to hear and thanks for taking the time to share. Quite a lot of podium finishers in recent marathons have been wearing the Asics so you must be right there. Great to hear you are having such a positive experience with them too 🫡
luckily i just bought Edge Paris for my race trainer. i decided bought the Edge Paris after receiving many positive comments. The color yellow is so cool.
@@redscap17 you’ll love them, ran in them this morning and they seem to get even more responsive after about 50k of use. Great colour too, I think we will have a white colourway soon after the Olympics finishing. 🫶🏻
@@timo7641 I’m yet to try the Kayano. Have you tried out the new Superblast 2 already? I was thinking of getting a pair of those for long runs but currently sold out in my UK size 10
@@Runningonthemind tried the superblast 1 and I agree with other reviewer that its more like a Sky Paris type of shoe, the one that is more suitable for midfoot and forefoot type striker, for heel strike I definitely chose Gel Nimbus (tried the Nimbus 25, Kayano is also good for me because I have overpronation issue, but the shoe is quite heavy for me, almost feel like a firmer yet heavy Hoka Skyward X)
Nothing to do with high cadence vs lower cadence. It's all about what you do when to increase pace. Does your cadence increase (edge) or does your stride length increase (sky)
Interesting and thanks for the feedback. Honestly I love both and if only one of them existed then I’d be perfectly happy also. It’s just great to have so many excellent options for racing in 👍
@@RonnyC98 Wow I have completely the opposite experience. The Edge takes pressure off my Achilles the Sky keeps me more on the rear of the foot which increases stress on my Achilles.
Have both shoes and I love lightweight shoes. I’ve found the Paris to be very good but requires fast speed to activate the foam for bounce and spring. The Alpha’s can be activated at slightly slower speeds, which make it more accessible for me. I love both of them but the Aplha is still king for me.
@@skywalk3x great feedback, I agree with you that ASICS does need a bit more of a push whereas the Nike are super comfortable at all speeds. Thanks for taking the time to comment 🫡
I’ve seen in some videos that edge works better in 5k/10k paces and sky for half/full marathon pace as they’re firmer than sky and the sky being too squishy when being pushed at 5k/10k pace. Nevertheless I ordered both and expecting them to be delivered this week. Might sell/return whichever I dont like.
I think you are right there. There is a lot more give especially in the forefoot with the more curved plate in the edge. I think the sky is stiffer but also very bouncy. If you prefer the Alphafly over the Vapor it’s likely you will prefer the sky and other way around if you prefer the Vapor 👍
Thanks for the Review! I'm also considering between the Alphaflys, vaporflys, the asics or perhaps the hoka rocket for my upcoming marathon. I've also been seeing some of the new On shoes. Looking forward to your future reviews
Thank you, I appreciate it. They are all amazing trainers, such small margins in them all as they are all so good. My opinion would be for a full marathon the Alphafly maybe the slightly better option for the distance as they are more bouncy and the zoom x foam holds up really well for that long distance. However I think the Asics will be amazing too. If you can, try a few on to see what you feel suits your foot better. All the best for the marathon 💪
Love the metaspeed but too firm for me after a half marathon. Great shoe for a half and under. I still prefer the Vaporfly for a full marathon as it’s softer for that reason and the better foot lockdown. The Alphafly 3 just felt too soft in the heel when I got tired. I also felt like most of the weight is in the pods so it felt heavier after a long run.
I have to agree about over half marathon, it’s what I mentioned later in the video. Did you try the Alphafly 3 or was that the 2s - the reason I ask is I agree with your comment on those for the Alphafly 2 but think they’ve improved it a lot in the 3s?
For the first time an explanation that goes beyond the "Cadence vs Stride". As someone thar enjoys rocker running shoes, the Edge may be the one that suits me better.
@@vitinho36 thank you, I really appreciate that comment and glad you found it helpful. Definitely the rocker is stronger on the edge so I’d say for sure it would suit you better. It’s a great shoe - only additional thing I’d say since making the video is that I’ve had a very slight ache in my left ankle after running in these at tempo+ pace.. more likely to do with my balance but just letting you know. Enjoy if you do get them 🫡
@@Runningonthemind I have only done a 14 Mile tempo/marathon pace in them. I do love them BUT had a slight sorenss in 1 of my toes on only 1 foot, went away after a day or two. The plate seems extra rigid in these new Edge Paris. Heel also a tad sore but went away as well. Have you tried them for a longer run like over 16-18m yet? would love to hear your experince or update? thanks much!
@@vitinho36 thank you, I’m so grateful for the kindness. Although I’ve done several reviews recently, I created the channel predominantly to highlight the links between running and good mental health and strong mindset - hence the name running on the mind. I value every interaction and hope you enjoy the content. Have a nice day! 🫡
@@ericwj7 interesting you got some slight aches as I did too and I’m think you are right, the stiff plate and the firmer ride is likely the reason, but I guess the pay off is the amazing spring from the rocker than gives such a fantastic transition through the stride. I’ve not yet been over 10m in them but will in the not too distant future so will share my thoughts for sure when I do. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts 🫡
@@13lars very cool. They are both awesome that’s for sure, and I think edge v sky is personal choice on how they feel. Tbh, I think whichever anybody tries first will be the one they love as both will feel and perform great 👍
I tried both and prefer the Edge and kept them. I prefer the forefoot feel in the Edge. Forget the whole cadence Vs stride argument. Sky is bouncier but the Edge rolls you through your stride better imo. Anything up to half marathon I love them. I'm 97kg for some perspective.
Several fast marathon runners in my local club (~2:25 to 2:45) have made the switch From Nikes to the Edge Paris and only swear by them now. I read that the heel was a bit unstable though and since my running technique is really raw I'm not sure this is for me (I'm using Endorphin Pro 3 at the moment).
I’m not surprised at that, I also know some elite runners that have also done the same. I’ve found the heel to be just as stable as the Nike Vaporfly for sure, in my opinion for so actually. How do you find the Endorphin? I’ve not run in them yet, but would like to give them a go.
@@Runningonthemind Endorphin Pro 3 and Pro 4 are more racing cruiser in the sense they're not as snappy as the Nikes and are very stable. So if you're looking for a less aggressive carbon plated racing shoes for a marathon with a more traditional built it is a good alternative. For shorter distances it might not be dynamic enough for some. I tried the Hoka Rocket X2 the other day and I might actually buy them for shorter distances if I can find them on discount.
Thanks for the information that’s really helpful. The rocket 2 is highly regarded as I’m sure you know. A few running influencers that I know swear by them and think they are superior to all other supers. So many choices 😂
@@gnarly8888 ah thank you. I am more passionate about the running and mental health side of the channel but enjoy sharing my thoughts and experiences with the accessories that I use in the journey. Thank you for the kindness 🙏
@@paulmulks 😂 that is a true story.. although have you run in the Alphafly 2 before? It’s like your feet giving you a 100 person round of applause every step 😂😂
@Runningonthemind I have the Alphafly v1, I didn't get the v2 because I didn't like the changes Nike made, however I run a race with someone wearing the Alphafly v2 and I can absolutely agree with what you just said 😂
😂 I never got the 1’s but wish I did, they are still a lot of very good marathon runners favs. The 3s are nearer the 1’s, but I also really liked the 2s and have several pairs still.
I have all 3 shoes compared in this. I ran a 2:47 marathon in the AF3 for my first marathon. Since that race I purchased the edge Paris and have done about 70ks in them on the track in training on speed days. I gotta be honest I MUCH MUCH prefer the Alphafly 3 between the two. I also think the Alphafly 2 might be the worst shoe I’ve ever worn (blisters everywhere) so I nearly passed on the 3 and I’m so happy I didn’t. Perhaps I’m more of a sky guy than an edge guy. Both are awesome shoes, but I’ll reach for the AF3 on race day as of now.
Great feedback, thanks for taking the time. I think I prefer the feel and ride in the AF3, but just feel the turn over and pop is a little better in the Asics. Honestly, I’d be happy only having any one of these but great to get feedback from somebody who has experience at marathon distance in all these. Amazing time by the way, super impressive 👏👏
@@13lars I’ve personally never run in them, so would reserve any judgement I’m sorry to say. But my friend Aubrey who runs his channel @Aubrey_Running knows Puma really well and he would have likely reviewed these on his channel in the past. He would also respond quickly if you asked him the question specifically I’m sure. Go check him out and let him know I recommended you to go see him.
@@amirzenga5723 in a single run, or lifetime? It’s good for marathon (although better for half in my opinion. Lifetime, several hundred miles so long as you only run on tarmac and roads.
@@Reasonwalker1 great to know thank you. More and more race winners are wearing the Metaspeed Paris. Seems to be decently available once again on Asics but they have stopped the original colour for some reason which I really liked.
For sure, AF maybe slightly bigger as they have the slightly extended foam at the back of the heal, but the fit is pretty much exactly the same in my UK size 10
Great video 👍 Anyone any thoughts how they compare to endorphin elites over marathon distance. Elites more stable iam guessing than asics.. could be an option to the alphafly 3 when they start reducing the rrp due to elite 2 launch.
Thank you. It’s really interesting you say that as I was looking at the elites yesterday to give them a try. For the reasons you mentioned. I am also thinking of getting a pair of the NB supercomp elite V4 but I hear they are prone to heel slip. My friend who’s a shoe reviewer on TY is telling me to get Hoka Rocket 2 but I’m just not a fan of Hoka. Will decide today which to go
@@Runningonthemind what I liked about the elites on paper was the front rocker being a front foot Stricker. I've not run in them but tried them on. Plenty of room in the toe box good fit for me cushioned & supportive. Unless your elite you will need support as the marathon goes into the last 8 miles and I also suffer with the odd Achilles niggle so the 8mm drop seemed ideal. Some reviews say they are to firm but I believe reviews should give them approx 40 miles to soften up. My adios pro3 prime strung x2 along with other were so much softer after this period than out of the box.👍
@@TheMf51y thanks so much for this, really great info. Interesting you’ve got the prime strung x2 - love the look of them but wonder if it’s just too expensive for the weight? Do you find they feel less heavy because of the energy return of the 2 carbon plates?
@@Runningonthemind I picked up the prime strung x2 for £150 and the elites for £170. I've got 90 days before I would have to return the elites unworn so not using them yet still undecided. The Prime are a very good shoe to have in a rotation. I am not sure if they are worth the rrp hard to say but if you want to do long runs easy at 8.30/mile and efforts at 7.00/mile or less they are amazing. I think they would roll the same as the endorphin elites. The weight on the flat isn't noticeable. They're no good for easy/long runs slower than 8.30/mile they just dont work. I use Boston 12 s for anything easy slower than 8.30 / mile.
@@oneschance 😂 we usually say it without the “eee” at the end, but I got told off by my American friends for the British way, so tried the 🇺🇸 way this time 🫡
I also have the edge and have done a total of 3 runs in them; a relaxed progressive 10k, a 30k training run and a 1/2 marathon race. I'm not sure why a lot of testers believe they are more suited to the 1/2 and below, I had no issues with these over 30k' and the stability felt better than the Adios Pro 3's they replaced. Can't recommend them enough.
That’s great to hear and thanks for taking the time to share. Quite a lot of podium finishers in recent marathons have been wearing the Asics so you must be right there. Great to hear you are having such a positive experience with them too 🫡
luckily i just bought Edge Paris for my race trainer. i decided bought the Edge Paris after receiving many positive comments. The color yellow is so cool.
@@redscap17 you’ll love them, ran in them this morning and they seem to get even more responsive after about 50k of use. Great colour too, I think we will have a white colourway soon after the Olympics finishing. 🫶🏻
Amazing video! Thank you so much. Just got my sky Paris yesterday. Already such an amazing shoe
Thanks so much, appreciate the kind words. You’ll enjoy them for many miles that’s for sure 🫶🏻
for Edge type Asics I reckon the Gel Kayano/Gel-Nimbus are preferred for longrun/daily trainer compared to the Superblast/Novablast
@@timo7641 I’m yet to try the Kayano. Have you tried out the new Superblast 2 already? I was thinking of getting a pair of those for long runs but currently sold out in my UK size 10
@@Runningonthemind tried the superblast 1 and I agree with other reviewer that its more like a Sky Paris type of shoe, the one that is more suitable for midfoot and forefoot type striker, for heel strike I definitely chose Gel Nimbus (tried the Nimbus 25, Kayano is also good for me because I have overpronation issue, but the shoe is quite heavy for me, almost feel like a firmer yet heavy Hoka Skyward X)
@@timo7641 great information, thanks so much for this, helpful for me but others also. 🫡
Nothing to do with high cadence vs lower cadence.
It's all about what you do when to increase pace. Does your cadence increase (edge) or does your stride length increase (sky)
@@Shakenjoke agreed although to be fair, both are likely to increase when you increase pace. Which don’t prefer out of the two options?
I have both in the exact colours. Edge Paris with the lower drop puts more strain on Achilles while Alphafly 3 on the knees but not too bad
Interesting and thanks for the feedback. Honestly I love both and if only one of them existed then I’d be perfectly happy also. It’s just great to have so many excellent options for racing in 👍
@@RonnyC98 Wow I have completely the opposite experience. The Edge takes pressure off my Achilles the Sky keeps me more on the rear of the foot which increases stress on my Achilles.
Have both shoes and I love lightweight shoes. I’ve found the Paris to be very good but requires fast speed to activate the foam for bounce and spring. The Alpha’s can be activated at slightly slower speeds, which make it more accessible for me. I love both of them but the Aplha is still king for me.
@@skywalk3x great feedback, I agree with you that ASICS does need a bit more of a push whereas the Nike are super comfortable at all speeds. Thanks for taking the time to comment 🫡
@@Runningonthemind your very welcome!
I’ve seen in some videos that edge works better in 5k/10k paces and sky for half/full marathon pace as they’re firmer than sky and the sky being too squishy when being pushed at 5k/10k pace. Nevertheless I ordered both and expecting them to be delivered this week. Might sell/return whichever I dont like.
I think you are right there. There is a lot more give especially in the forefoot with the more curved plate in the edge. I think the sky is stiffer but also very bouncy. If you prefer the Alphafly over the Vapor it’s likely you will prefer the sky and other way around if you prefer the Vapor 👍
Thanks for the Review! I'm also considering between the Alphaflys, vaporflys, the asics or perhaps the hoka rocket for my upcoming marathon. I've also been seeing some of the new On shoes. Looking forward to your future reviews
Thank you, I appreciate it. They are all amazing trainers, such small margins in them all as they are all so good. My opinion would be for a full marathon the Alphafly maybe the slightly better option for the distance as they are more bouncy and the zoom x foam holds up really well for that long distance. However I think the Asics will be amazing too. If you can, try a few on to see what you feel suits your foot better. All the best for the marathon 💪
Love the metaspeed but too firm for me after a half marathon. Great shoe for a half and under. I still prefer the Vaporfly for a full marathon as it’s softer for that reason and the better foot lockdown. The Alphafly 3 just felt too soft in the heel when I got tired. I also felt like most of the weight is in the pods so it felt heavier after a long run.
I have to agree about over half marathon, it’s what I mentioned later in the video. Did you try the Alphafly 3 or was that the 2s - the reason I ask is I agree with your comment on those for the Alphafly 2 but think they’ve improved it a lot in the 3s?
For the first time an explanation that goes beyond the "Cadence vs Stride".
As someone thar enjoys rocker running shoes, the Edge may be the one that suits me better.
@@vitinho36 thank you, I really appreciate that comment and glad you found it helpful. Definitely the rocker is stronger on the edge so I’d say for sure it would suit you better. It’s a great shoe - only additional thing I’d say since making the video is that I’ve had a very slight ache in my left ankle after running in these at tempo+ pace.. more likely to do with my balance but just letting you know. Enjoy if you do get them 🫡
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@@Runningonthemind I have only done a 14 Mile tempo/marathon pace in them. I do love them BUT had a slight sorenss in 1 of my toes on only 1 foot, went away after a day or two. The plate seems extra rigid in these new Edge Paris. Heel also a tad sore but went away as well. Have you tried them for a longer run like over 16-18m yet? would love to hear your experince or update? thanks much!
@@vitinho36 thank you, I’m so grateful for the kindness. Although I’ve done several reviews recently, I created the channel predominantly to highlight the links between running and good mental health and strong mindset - hence the name running on the mind. I value every interaction and hope you enjoy the content. Have a nice day! 🫡
@@ericwj7 interesting you got some slight aches as I did too and I’m think you are right, the stiff plate and the firmer ride is likely the reason, but I guess the pay off is the amazing spring from the rocker than gives such a fantastic transition through the stride. I’ve not yet been over 10m in them but will in the not too distant future so will share my thoughts for sure when I do. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts 🫡
I liked the sky slightly better than edge. More bounce. My case ce is around 170
Cadence
@@13lars very cool. They are both awesome that’s for sure, and I think edge v sky is personal choice on how they feel. Tbh, I think whichever anybody tries first will be the one they love as both will feel and perform great 👍
I tried both and prefer the Edge and kept them. I prefer the forefoot feel in the Edge. Forget the whole cadence Vs stride argument. Sky is bouncier but the Edge rolls you through your stride better imo. Anything up to half marathon I love them. I'm 97kg for some perspective.
Several fast marathon runners in my local club (~2:25 to 2:45) have made the switch From Nikes to the Edge Paris and only swear by them now. I read that the heel was a bit unstable though and since my running technique is really raw I'm not sure this is for me (I'm using Endorphin Pro 3 at the moment).
I’m not surprised at that, I also know some elite runners that have also done the same. I’ve found the heel to be just as stable as the Nike Vaporfly for sure, in my opinion for so actually. How do you find the Endorphin? I’ve not run in them yet, but would like to give them a go.
@@Runningonthemind Endorphin Pro 3 and Pro 4 are more racing cruiser in the sense they're not as snappy as the Nikes and are very stable. So if you're looking for a less aggressive carbon plated racing shoes for a marathon with a more traditional built it is a good alternative. For shorter distances it might not be dynamic enough for some. I tried the Hoka Rocket X2 the other day and I might actually buy them for shorter distances if I can find them on discount.
Thanks for the information that’s really helpful. The rocket 2 is highly regarded as I’m sure you know. A few running influencers that I know swear by them and think they are superior to all other supers. So many choices 😂
Good review. I'm sure that your channel will do well.
@@gnarly8888 ah thank you. I am more passionate about the running and mental health side of the channel but enjoy sharing my thoughts and experiences with the accessories that I use in the journey. Thank you for the kindness 🙏
I love my Edge Paris but my god they are loud when running in them! You can hear me coming from a mile away haha
@@paulmulks 😂 that is a true story.. although have you run in the Alphafly 2 before? It’s like your feet giving you a 100 person round of applause every step 😂😂
@Runningonthemind I have the Alphafly v1, I didn't get the v2 because I didn't like the changes Nike made, however I run a race with someone wearing the Alphafly v2 and I can absolutely agree with what you just said 😂
😂 I never got the 1’s but wish I did, they are still a lot of very good marathon runners favs. The 3s are nearer the 1’s, but I also really liked the 2s and have several pairs still.
I have all 3 shoes compared in this. I ran a 2:47 marathon in the AF3 for my first marathon. Since that race I purchased the edge Paris and have done about 70ks in them on the track in training on speed days.
I gotta be honest I MUCH MUCH prefer the Alphafly 3 between the two. I also think the Alphafly 2 might be the worst shoe I’ve ever worn (blisters everywhere) so I nearly passed on the 3 and I’m so happy I didn’t. Perhaps I’m more of a sky guy than an edge guy. Both are awesome shoes, but I’ll reach for the AF3 on race day as of now.
Great feedback, thanks for taking the time. I think I prefer the feel and ride in the AF3, but just feel the turn over and pop is a little better in the Asics. Honestly, I’d be happy only having any one of these but great to get feedback from somebody who has experience at marathon distance in all these. Amazing time by the way, super impressive 👏👏
Thoughts about Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3?
@@13lars I’ve personally never run in them, so would reserve any judgement I’m sorry to say. But my friend Aubrey who runs his channel @Aubrey_Running knows Puma really well and he would have likely reviewed these on his channel in the past. He would also respond quickly if you asked him the question specifically I’m sure. Go check him out and let him know I recommended you to go see him.
I tried both the Alphafly 3 and the Puma DNE 3. The differences are minimal. Both are great
How many miles can this shoe hold in good conditions ?
@@amirzenga5723 in a single run, or lifetime? It’s good for marathon (although better for half in my opinion. Lifetime, several hundred miles so long as you only run on tarmac and roads.
@@Runningonthemind thank you for the clarification
To be fair not many people are talkong about the Edge. Most are talking about the Sky.
Agreed - although I think some of that was because the sky was easier to get hold of. Both are sold out again I believe 😩
@@Runningonthemind yes I'm sure that was the reason. The new colour is strangely still freely available on the UK website.
@@Fozzee.1970also on the US website.
Past month most Australia podium asics elite runner wear Edge Paris. In Japan and my country as well. Not sure what are you talking about.
@@Reasonwalker1 great to know thank you. More and more race winners are wearing the Metaspeed Paris. Seems to be decently available once again on Asics but they have stopped the original colour for some reason which I really liked.
would you say that length wise theyre the same with the af3’s?
For sure, AF maybe slightly bigger as they have the slightly extended foam at the back of the heal, but the fit is pretty much exactly the same in my UK size 10
I like the alphaflys better.
That’s fair, I think they are both amazing 🤩
Great video 👍 Anyone any thoughts how they compare to endorphin elites over marathon distance. Elites more stable iam guessing than asics.. could be an option to the alphafly 3 when they start reducing the rrp due to elite 2 launch.
Thank you. It’s really interesting you say that as I was looking at the elites yesterday to give them a try. For the reasons you mentioned. I am also thinking of getting a pair of the NB supercomp elite V4 but I hear they are prone to heel slip. My friend who’s a shoe reviewer on TY is telling me to get Hoka Rocket 2 but I’m just not a fan of Hoka. Will decide today which to go
@@Runningonthemind what I liked about the elites on paper was the front rocker being a front foot Stricker. I've not run in them but tried them on. Plenty of room in the toe box good fit for me cushioned & supportive. Unless your elite you will need support as the marathon goes into the last 8 miles and I also suffer with the odd Achilles niggle so the 8mm drop seemed ideal. Some reviews say they are to firm but I believe reviews should give them approx 40 miles to soften up. My adios pro3 prime strung x2 along with other were so much softer after this period than out of the box.👍
@@TheMf51y thanks so much for this, really great info. Interesting you’ve got the prime strung x2 - love the look of them but wonder if it’s just too expensive for the weight? Do you find they feel less heavy because of the energy return of the 2 carbon plates?
@@Runningonthemind I picked up the prime strung x2 for £150 and the elites for £170. I've got 90 days before I would have to return the elites unworn so not using them yet still undecided. The Prime are a very good shoe to have in a rotation. I am not sure if they are worth the rrp hard to say but if you want to do long runs easy at 8.30/mile and efforts at 7.00/mile or less they are amazing. I think they would roll the same as the endorphin elites. The weight on the flat isn't noticeable. They're no good for easy/long runs slower than 8.30/mile they just dont work. I use Boston 12 s for anything easy slower than 8.30 / mile.
Do the British pronounce Nike for the shoes in the same way they pronounce Nike for the character in Greek mythology. Asking as an 🇺🇸
@@oneschance 😂 we usually say it without the “eee” at the end, but I got told off by my American friends for the British way, so tried the 🇺🇸 way this time 🫡
@@Runningonthemind by the way, good review
@@oneschance very kind, thanks 🙏