Sony BRAVIA 9 Review: this or the Best OLED TVs in 2024?
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Hi FOMO, please doing battle QN900D vs Bravia 9
Sony A95L is still the best tv out there. In my opinion.
Hi Fomo!: Iâm coming from a 75â Sony Z9D that I couldnât bring with me when I moved out of my parentâs house to another state. Are the 85â Hisense U8N and the 85â TCL 2024 QM8 good options? or should I save up and wait to get the 77â Sony A95L, the 85â Bravia 9 or the 83â LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I donât game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for replying!
@@lpromer4796 I would say to save up and get the Sony A95L. If you can. Itâs a very expensive tv.
@@WildWildDev G4 dethroned it sry, it brings out even more 3D depth, gets brighter and punchier and it has even better clarity. However yes A95L is far superior over the Bravia 9
There's no perfect TV but I think it's fair to say Bravia 9 is truly remarkable progress for MiniLED. Sony sprinkled magic dust on the backlight masterdrive (increase in zones and 22 bit precision) and it is just wonderful!
All this to do a 50% brighter picture over OLED. And still small highlights unfortunately dimmer. đ€·ââïž much easier with self emissive pixels. Canât believe they donât offer 97â. They offer poor x90L but not their flagship.
Sony rests on their laurels as a company but when they decide to innovate they definitely come out swinging, I don't think anyone expected a TV that looks almost as good as a $30k mastering monitor and trades blows with OLED in dark room performance.
@@Mike-jm5wt they can do indeed but Iâm afraid they will lose the game. TCL is smashing in mini led space and with bigger better models available will definitely overtake that space. Whereas Samsung and LG already get close in processing to Sony, close enough that usually big price disparity doesnât justify the difference. There will be only die hard Sony fans. I can see Sony selling its business down the line.
@@whitecrowuk575 sony will sell TVs even if profit isn't good, think of how valuable it is to have that Sony logo in front of people day in and day out. Also if the Chinese brands get too good watch governments suddenly label them as CCP spyware like they did to Huawei
The Bravia 9 is literally going to shock the world. It's going to win the King of TV's shootout this year (beating out both OLED and QD-OLED TVs) and that's going to make people heads explode all over the world! Yeah, I just saw it for the first time today and it's THAT good. You won't even believe it when you see it.
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Excellent choice of TVs for this comparison/evaluation! Look forward to watching!
I just received my new Bravia 9 yesterday and absolutely love it â€Iâm a SONY man and always get the new model. I havenât messed with the settings yet but thank you for the recommendations. Love ur videos đ
Do you have the A95L if you are a Sony man! How does the B9 compare?
@@gosman949 hah. same question! again! :)
Im curious how it compares to the Z9K in luminance and brightness, which is still a carry over this year.
@@AnythingGoesJoJoBravia 9 has better local dimming with close to 0 blooming. The Z9K does have significant blooming
Have been a longtime fan of Sony myself, having had 3 landmark Sony TVs between 1989 & the Sony OLED we still have now, including a 35" Sony 198 lb. tabletop CRT MONSTER that the TV review magazines, in late 1997 & early 1998, were calling the best TV for squeezing the most picture quality out of the then NEW video format: DVD.
I'm excited. My 85 inch B9 arrives next Monday. Your review will help me set it up.
Enjoy! Can you tell me how the uniformity is? DSE main culprit
I have it already, it's great except be prepared for blooming. There absolutely is blooming and it's worse than the TV I just replaced, my 2018 Samsung Q8FN with only 40 dimming zones. Samsung at the time was prioritizing blooming control over everything so highlights were not spectacular however there was absolutely no blooming on this q8fn. Black level is insanely good and I prefer this kind of an algorithm. The Bravia 9 prioritizes blindingly bright highlights over blooming control and it really shows, I see quite a bit of blooming which is disappointing. That said it's not terrible.
@@armylrs2391 ty for the information. Why not go lg g4?
@@TonyDAngelo-ot7ny I've owned WOLED - an A80K and C3 and I did not like either of them. I do not like how WOLED uses a white subpixel. I find it gives the image an inescapable blue push along with diluted looking color production. They also have terrible brightness stability. I like HDR and QLED provides a much more impressive HDR experience. I considered buying a Samsung QD-OLED, but they also have bad brightness stability and no OLED has impressive peak brightness despite the deceptive marketing in that regard.
Every mini led TV will have blooming.
Best less than 17 minute video of all time! Your discussion covers the most important attributes of these very nice premium TVs. Thank you for being the great partner you are, and for your support to the video industry.
Hi Robert!, Iâm coming from a 75â Sony Z9D that I couldnât bring with me when I moved to another State (I left it in my parentâs house). Do you think the 85â Hisense U8N or the 85â TCL 2024 QM8 will be somehow in the same level as the Sony Z9D or should I just save up and wait to get the 85â Bravia 9 or the 85â LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and some shows, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month in my living room. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for your advice! đđœ
I asked fomo I similar question a while back . Ashamed to admit I ignored his advice and bought a sony xr85x95j. Mainly use tv for football and movies, had to return tv ( dse & vignette) got 77inch lg c1 and never looked back.
Even on this video you can see grey area on pan video ( Lucy army of d) the panel lottery is so much harder with large led tvs , and that's exactly what fomo originally told me.
@@iansteventon4221 oh wow! Thanks for the info!
Great work like always. What settings do you have the S95D on please?
Very impressed, short and to the point, thanks FOMO. 1 question, why are we not seeing comparisons to the qn95d?
Bravia 9 is crazy expensive in the UK., the 65 inches not available, while the 75 inches is considerably more expensive than in the US. As a result it is going to be out of reach for me and the majority of video enthusiasts. Sonyâs marketing policy is alienating its own potential customers, congratulations Sony!
no 65 in Australia either.
Mate the uk fn sucks ! Everything is priced ridiculous! Does my heed in seeing the prices in usa .
The 85 inch B9 is only 500 quid more than the 75 inch.
@@bustercolin7507 wait for a sale next year mate. I paid ÂŁ3300 for my 77inch c1 , put it up for sale at ÂŁ1250 - these bigger tvs are hard to shift both private and in store here in uk .
Great video, all information in a compact 15 minutes video. Thanks! I went with the S95D, replacing my old KS9590 LED. Love it! Never had such a clean panel before -with zero banding!
what about that matt screen?
@@gosman949 I like the matte coating! It looks kinda classy and itâs easy on the eyes to watch things during daylight.
Hell yeah, bring it on.
Still waiting for my 75" BRAVIA 9đ
I have the 75 inch Bravia 9. you will absolutely love it. My only regret is that I didnât get the 85 inch.
I have the 75" Bravia 9 and I absolutely love it! Best TV I've ever owned, and funny enough not the most expensive. I love it so much more than any OLED I've ever had, including the A95L!
@@vacguy77 what the? Really. Better than the A95L? How is the sound on the Bravia9 compared to the A95L?
@@gosman949 wanna know the same thing as you... is the sound on bravia9 really better then on the A95L?
@@vacguy77 how would you compare the bravia 9 with the A95L? in what ways is the bravia 9 superior to the A95L in your opinion?
Bravia 9 looks awesome, I think that's my next TV. Thanks for the review, FOMO.
Bravia 9 seems really nice!
I seriously considering coming back to LCD from oled TV in the future!
Hi Fomo, thanks for another video you always hand out great content, but a quick question for you, Iâm using the Sony 85j model but interested in the Bravia 9 or the Sony 98â I use a lot for films and streaming no games, which one should I get, this tv is for three years max, looking for 110 minimum Next thanks Oz
Great video. What about Sony A95l?
Love the videos, just wish there was bookmarking of the sections
Fomo, if you adjust black level and/or gama on the QM8 does the clouding get any better?
Iâm a LG CX owner and have been looking at the S90D as a replacement, I went to Best Buy to look at OLEDs, walked over to Sony to check out the A80L & A95L, and was blown away by the Bravia 9 that was next to the Sony OLEDs. I never thought Iâd leave OLED. If you havenât seen it in person, please do. Itâs REALLY good. Now Iâm researching Bravia 9.
To everyone that thinks LCD canât be as good as OLED, listen to this guy. The B9 is amazing. Iâm glad more people are starting to realize it.
My grandmother just picked up the G4, sheâs loving it
Close too oled and no burn in yeah bravia 9.
I'm impressed with the B9 when you increased your camera exposure on that star scene. It has near OLED black detail. IRL the lifted black on the QM8 wouldn't be that noticeable though.
75â Bravia 9 will be my basement tv! :)
Basement TV, might wanna OLED instead
@@natemekis3959 Was thinking that but the B9 gets to 95% of OLED blacks but gives you brightness and dynamic range impact that OLEDS just canât match.
Iâm thinking the Bravia9 is gonna blind you in the basement and you wonât even be able to appreciate the highlights but let the community know how it worked out
@@natemekis3959 You make a very good point. You really think a lot of the brightness would be wasted in a basement setting? Wouldnât it still however have more hdr impact than an OLED? Or, are you saying since it would be in a basement setting without having to worry about sunlight that OLED would be plenty bright?
Iâd probably be blown away by the 77â Bravia 8. I donât wanna spend $5K for the A95L. What would you get for a basement? I do love Sonys processing.
Thanks for asking. I certainly donât want to tell you what to do or be a know-it-all, but I watch a LG B7 at night/pitch dark besides the tv of course. I keep the brightness down. That infinite contrast will be what gives the image a 3D âwetâ pop. Nothing beats oled it the dark. Bright living room Bravia9 all day. If you love Sony processing which I hear it great, A80L 77 or 83. Bravia8 is not a big enough leap for the money. But if you got the cash LG G4 sounds like it has great improved processing and the brightness if you want that hdr pop. Iâm waiting til G4 or S90D come into my money range. Cheers.
Hurts my feelings a bit to know that the Bravia 9 costs 1000 USD less in the States compared to where I live, but after this video I am convinced that it will be worth every single dime.
I just pulled the plug on the 75 inch one.
I don't think I have seen this much hype for a Sony TV ever.
same i got the exact same size coming tomorrow and im excited
Great video
Bravia 9 looks great. Im happy with my Sony A95K for now and Iâll look into Bravia 9 sometime in the future.
Thank you FOMO! I would love to see a Bravia 9 and Samsung 900D comparison!
A calibrated 85" Z9K Owner from V.E. One thing that really sticks out to me is the cost ... the 85" B nearly half the cost of the Z9K. What size TV's were used in your review? Gotta say the old standby continues to hold true and that is what is the light environment where the TV is depends on what TV tech to go with. Both techs improve year by year that in real life viewing it comes down to one's personal preference. Those torture test comparisons are coming to the point of splitting hairs. Great Review. T.Y. đđ
Im really curious how the Z9K compares to the Bravia 9...Bravia 9 hits 2500 nits? But the Z9K already benn hitting close to 4000 nits
Hi Fomo!: Iâm coming from a 75â Sony Z9D that I couldnât bring it with me when I moved from TX back to CA (I left it in my parentâs house). Do you think the 85â Hisense U8N or the 85â TCL 2024 QM8 will be somehow in the same level as the Sony Z9D being that the Z9D is a 7 year old technology? or should I save up and wait to get the 77â Sony A95L, the 85â Bravia 9 or the 83â LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I donât game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for your advice! đđœ
Iâm coming from a 75â Sony Z9D that I couldnât bring with me when I moved out of my parentâs house to another state. Are the 85â Hisense U8N and the 85â TCL 2024 QM8 good options? or should I save up and wait to get the 77â Sony A95L, the 85â Bravia 9 or the 83â LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I donât game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for replying!
Thank you for going through the comparisons. Mini LED tech is getting closer to OLED though not surpassing it. Looking forward to the 98" size comparisons, btw, what ever happened to the Hisense U9N and UX releases?
Talkin 98" Bravia would be awesome with more than 85"
Not for me, i cant afford itđ
While I am quite happy to see manufacturers improving their LCD and OLED TVs year over year, I think we have long arrived at the point, where the quality of the content is holding things back for more than the quality of the Display. Pretty much the same thing as what we can see in terms of Audio. We have all these nice standards and formats, HDR, 4K60 or 4K120 with high clarity, brightness, contrast and everything, but frequently get HDR capped at less than 500nits or even SDR in an HDR container. Hollywood clings to 24p, thus destroying most of the advantages of 4K or even 1080p as soon as movement is involved or adds artificial "digital grain" etc.
On the audio side, we are seeing Atmos mixes without actual object based audio, just static 7.1.2 or at most 7.1.4 and very little Surround Sound, let alone Heigt effects. In terms of Music, we get all kinds of high-resolution containers with the audio often having the potential of exceeding what humans can hear by several orders of magnitude but the actual recording being dynamically compressed, badly recorded, mushy and not even using the available bandwidth of something like a good old Audio CD.
So yes, modern TVs, AVRs and Speakers are great, but the Content industry is way behind most of the time. Sorry for ranting...đ§ââïž
Iâve been saying this for years. Buying $5,000 tvs is stupid when the content itself will almost never justify that. Thereâs a reason almost all modern tvs look great when you watch Demo footage and footage from HDR Demo channels on CZcams. Then you watch Netflix and other content a d it never matches that. Then you have a lot of directors you think the world looks dark and drab and no tv is going to make that content look better. Look at how Some scenes in Game of Thrones are shot, where itâs so dark you canât see anything. A $5,000 fake â4,000 Nitâ tv isnât going to do much better than a $800 1,000 Nit TV.
LG G4 with QD-oled panel is my dream TV. Love that LG G4 motion.
The A95L is available and is a better TV if you really want oled.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 still overpriced and last year's processor.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 Sounds good, do you have a link to the 83" version?
â@@alsayedfakhri4597No 83 for me sadly on the a95l
That tv already exists its called the Sony A95L
What are the sizes of these tvs?
Are they all 65"?
Itâs impressive Iâll say if Iâm ever in a situation where the living room has a ton of light coming in in the tv. Itâs nice knowing there are oled alternatives ready.
Hey, FOMO!
Since the largest set our mantle area can support is 55", would you suggest going with the A95L over the Bravia 7?
Side-lit living room, too.
A95L smashes the b7. You're comparing the top of the line QD OLED to a mid-range LED TV
In many scenes the bravia 9 colors looked closest to the monitor .
Thanks FOMO.
Nice review! Please make the review of Bravia 9 85 inches, It is supposedly better than the 65 and 75 because it has a greater number of zones and more contrast, and will be much closer to oled contrast.
Thanks!
Sony Bravia 9 &8 I bought both of them from value electronics. Thank you Robert for your advice. It worked out very well for me. Please buy from value electronics.
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â@valueelectronics9390 do you know how long the Bravia 9 is on sale for?
@@CaBdosdos Looks like Sony has permanently lowered the prices on all screen sizes of the BRAVIA 9 QD MiniLED TV, 85" 4,799, 75" $3,499, 65" 2,999. with free Nationwide delivery, and we have promotions on all of Sony's perfectly matched audio and headphone products with very nice bundle discounts.
I'm still a touch skeptical, but I have to say I was impressed by the colors of the Bravia 9. It was clearly better in that youtube TV tennis match.
In terms of colours, Sony's TV's usually knocks it out of the park. I bought a ZF9 master series TV back in 2019 and now I can only buy Sony TV's because no other TV is capable of matching the colours of a Sony TV (and they look the most true to life to me). I'm not a Sony fanboy, I don't even have a PS5. I had their first wireless earbuds with noise cancelling, but did not opt to get a new Sony one because they tend to have battery issues (I don't know what it is with Sony and trash batteries. All of their earbuds have battery durability issues and their wireless controllers also all have battery durability issues).
It was in vivid. Hence the colors were being pushed hard. But wasnât shown TCL, which would match it or surpass it (it is brighter).
Read up on quantum dots but the short version is they convert led light into pure white which then gets filtered by the lcd layer to create all the colors, but because the white is so pure the resulting colors are far more vibrant compared to non QD light sources.
â@@whitecrowuk575no TCL advocate has ever answered my question on longevity. I buy a TV to last 10 years, will a tcl be as good in 8 to 10 years of heavy usage? My Sony have always lasted 10 years at still a quality colour and picture.
I am guessing that you never clocked that FOMO had the Sony in vivid mode to try and make it appear more pimped out than it actually is?
FOMO - you should be way better than this. We don't want clickbait - give us accurate reviews sir, you can't claim anything is better whilst completely pimping out both the product and your camera settings.
If you are going to make wild claims - give us the data that backs it all up.
OLED trying to be brighter mini led trying to have perfect blackđ
The LG just looks so good.
B9 is now down by 1000 for a few hours in Australia, I just caught the flash sale of 10% discount and made the order of 85â
Excellent stuff, it would be nice if you could compare the power consumption at sdr (same brightness ) (what people watch 90% of the time) of these tv. It would be a great reference for people who live in places with very high power prices.
Power usage is FAR lower on LCD TVs with Mini-LED back-lights than with similar size OLEDs! For example, about any model 65" LCD TV with Mini-LED back-lighting sold today, uses UNDER half the power at the same brightness level that any 65" OLED uses. OLEDs have NEVER been efficient in utilizing electrical power to produce a given level of brightness. A 2019 model Sony 77" A9G OLED we use in our basement theater room, has a maximum power use rating that's OVER 2 TIMES the maximum rated power usage of the 2014 Sharp 80" LCD TV (without Mini-LEDs) that I gave to a friend in Sept 2022, as we replaced the Sharp with Samsung's 85" QN90B LCD with Mini-LED back-lights.
@@mrb0775 wow, I knew oleds were inefficient, but I thought it would not be that different to LEDs due to transmission losses through LCD screen. I always wanted to upgrade to qdoled, but now I am thinking otherwise.
Great service that Value Electronics has! Would Robert know of someone in Toronto or London Ontario with such services to testing the TV for uniformity etc,plus the calibration? Yall are lucky to have him in the US.
Letâs Go Fomo!! I hope you also show content in there cinema and gaming mode with dynamic tone mapping on. Most reviewers only show Prof Mode with Static / HGIG.
I watch in a dark, light controlled room, but my budget just isn't there yet for a 77" OLED. Was really planning for an upgrade for my 65X950G in 2024 but may have to wait a year. I don't want to have to settle for blooming.
Get the samsung x90d is the best qd oled value for money the s95d is a bit bright but the rest is similar.
1/3 the price,
YES, i am willing to compromise.
TCL it is.
Some people go out and eat a piece of chicken leg while other people have lobster, buy what you can afford that is the way.
TCL is a Gamechanger so is the Bravia 9
Itâs brighter with slightly worse processing. 30% more over B9 for 98â, in few months itâll be on par with Sony.
Lg has good contrast in a dim lit room. Does that apply to mla as well? Just like qd oled tinted panel when light hits the panel.
What about seeing numbers measuring Contrast off the panels in dimly lit room aswell? And also measuring contrast of colorful scenes without any black and how miniled measures and how it looks to human eyes.
Oleds don't have high nits at full screen compared to leds. And I want to know if that full screen makes a difference in contrast and 3d pop.
It should since glassless 3d tv are super bright to make the image pop and 3d. So miniled should be a better compromise between 3d tv and oleds.
So in that case i should be buying miniled oreven just led, since most content I watch don't even have perfect blacks or much shadow detail. And with led I would be getting more contrast with brightness. And blooming doesn't even bother me compared to a dim and flat picture.
Only thing putting me off the sony is the grey shadowing on the edges of the screen with army of the dead and lucy. Other 2 tvs are clean , the lcd tv seems to have a grey patch when camera pans ? Why ?
How does the bravia 9 compare to a QN95D ?
I really prefer the Bravia 9 cause I just love Sonys processing.
I mean I kno the oled is the best but the mini ledâs is damn close and is brighter and has deep blacks and thereâs no worries about burn in Iâd rather have a tv thatâs bright that I can adjust then a dark tv that canât get bright enough đ€·đœââïž
Sony B9
Hello guys, do you guys have any recommendation what tv to get if I do not want to face earc/audio issues? It seems Samsung is very bad and even the a95l has earc problems. I mean wtf is this? Thousands for a tv and only problems. It seems that lg tv having lesser issues but they seem to have problems too...
Hi, i bought TCL 98C755 but it had very bad picture specially in streaming platforms, so is it because it's not OLED or QLED or what? Thanks
I'll be honest I'm too poor for any of those so I went with the LG C3.. 65-inch.
But im loving it. It will be my TV for the next 5yrs easy
Saying also that you can only see it in direct comparison because they are all so good is an important piece of information since at home if you are not in a store no one can compare side by side m. And then itâs up to your own preferences and what you feel your tv is lacking
I promise this is the last time I spam this comment haha... Next livestream where you have the TVs all up, can we see the QM851 compared with the HX3110 with the following changes? Black Level at 48 and/or Gamma at 2.3. Like I posted in the live chat, I think that gets you closer to reference with a bit less clouding/blooming based on some feedback AVS users have posted and my own experience with previous QM850 firmware.
Side by sides mean absolutely nothing - especially the subjective and quite frankly wild way that FOMO chooses to illustrate differences in products. Take them all with a large pinch of salt as so many variables come in to play.
how the Bravia 9 compare the tcl X955?
So you compared a Bravia 9 that someone had done a calibration on with an out-of-the-box QM8?
I know it's a difficult thing to measure and comment on but one of the most important things for me is the quality control of the tv. How bad is the dse at 85 inch? For us folks in other countries who don't have access to Robert to do quality control we have to play the panel lottery and I just had a terrible experience getting a 85 inch screen replaced due to extreme dse, I hope to never have to deal with that again.
Hey buddyđ
The most important thing to myself ( having bought and returned the terrible sony 85x95j) is DSE & vignetting. Please add this to the reviews, its really important if you watch sports.
Have you considered doing a comparison between pc monitor panels like the new OLED Samsung G8 G80SD and existing 27 inch MiniLED monitors to see which performs better?
Gaming monitors are their own beast because gamers either prioritize latency and frame rates (expensive 360hz OLED) or HDR impact (miniLED). Generally, OLED wins if youâre willing to pay the price. I personally prefer QDOLED for uniformity and color saturation because Iâm fine with its current latency and refresh rate
Look up d - Solace in Scrutinyđ. He did that exact G8 to ASUS mini LED side by side comprising . The result is -- Shocking !!!! đđ
So are ADS Pro panels only available in 75" and larger?
I know the Sony B9 85" is the only one to use it, while the HiSense uses it for its U8N 75".
I wish manufacturers put more effort into 48" and 55" sets and we saw these newer generation panels used for these sizes.
The B7 55" having such poor viewing angles is unacceptable. Sounds like I need to look at the A95L 55"
You said the G4's oled tech is a generation behind. By that, do you mean that it is not QD-OLED? I thought it had the newest WRGB panel tech
I want to know the best for the money 80+ inches preferably around 100" for this year
Where is the frame-by-frame comparison between the TCL QM851g and the Sony Bravia 9?
Still having it itâs worth to say that the QD OLED A 95 L is still a master series and still within its category a popular TV. Even though the newest and latest comparisons is part of your job as reviewer. Because people who bought it at release and saved up money might feel like ohhh so this means itâs replacing every other model
Itâs business. Of course theyâll tell you the newer is better. New doesnât always mean better.
I got my B9 few weeks ago, but there is brighten spot on the screen that is about 8" wide shape like a jelly bean located on the center left side of the screen. Contacted Sony and for three days worth of correspondent they determine it is "working within specs". I can't stand it, cause I can see it in dark scenes. So I am returning it back to Sony (bought directly). I have the LG G4 on order now.
Im really curious to see how the Bravia 9 compares to the Z9K, the Z series has been known to hit 4000 nits without clipping.
I agree that would be cool to see how the Bravia 9 can match up with Z9K in terms of raw luminance output
Bravia 8 vs a80l?
Well, the Bravia 9 to me looks like the best TV on the market for video viewing.... mainly because the colours just seem to be the most accurate for most part. It's basically closest to the reference monitor in like 95% of the cases.
I did read about some 'bad' things related to gaming. But that was mainly from 1 source and just a few guys. Supposedly the response time is like 17-18 ms even in gaming mode when playing at 60 fps... which is only slightly better than my 2018 Z9F and far worse than some of Sony's own TV's from recent years. Well, it isn't a dealbreaker since I don't play competitively anyhow, but it is something to keep in mind at least (ideally it's something they can improve with a software update perhaps if the issue is caused by lack of software optimisation for gaming).
Its response time at 60hz or 60FPS is double that of 120hz
@@JLT3ch I meant input lag. But it is a bit on the high side for a modern TV (still good though I guess).
You have up to $5000 to spend on a set. What do YOU buy fomo?
Led over oled always the peak brightness on sony brightness preferred tvs is too good to go for an oled
In terms of 2023 models, which is better the x90l or x93L? I know you awarded the x90l your best for most people. But would the mini led from Sony be better? Of course the xrclear processor comes into play too. Thanks
I'll answer, x93l at 85" otherwise if buying a smaller size TV save some money and get the 90l with xr clear. I love my x95k but it's only a bit better than my 900e which was regular led FALD like the 90l.
@@Mike-jm5wt from what Iâve read while the x95k and x93L are 99% similar, they did do something different with the algorithm for the 93. I would assume itâs marginally better than the x95k albeit even though it may be a small amount. The size in question is 65â
@@zackbutler950 initially the x93l and x95k had software differences but I've received multiple firmware updates that have given me all the same features that were previously exclusive to the x93l so I'm convinced at this point in time they are basically the same TV. With that said I also have the 65" which is an inferior panel to what they put in the 85", so I think the difference between a 65" x90l is small compared to a 65" x93l/x95k, mini led is mostly a power saving feature in these models it's the bravia 9 that has turned it into an actual high performance backlight system.
X93L a lot better black levels
@@Jodez23 not that much better, zone count is still low so the leds being "mini" doesn't make the blacks blacker. The problem with the x95k and x93l is that the native contrast ratio on the panel is poor, around 2,000:1. My x900e had a 6,000 iirc native contrast ratio so these new panels Sony is buying suck, they need local dimming to fix the poor panel performance.
Wondering how low level banding was? Like in game of thrones?
Why compare to lesser brands? Makes sense to compare to a95l
"Lesser brands"đ Stop smoking đŹ bad stuff.
@@ADISTOD3MUS the moment he realizes the G4 wins TV of the year at the shootout he realizes the Sony dominance is over.
Now if Sony would only make a 100"(or 98) version of the Bravia 9
I hate that they only make 98-inch sizes or higher for a mid-range TV.
I'd take infinite contrast over brightness any day of the week. These OLEDs came a long way. G4 with MLA is extremely bright TV. Still the Bravia 9 is very impressive for a mini led technology
Ok, the B9 is ridiculously good
Do you think $4800 is the price for a while? Or could go down further with all the great competition?
Wait for fall/winter. I'll bet it hits the high 3k area by then. I'm waiting to buy it at around that price.
The Black Friday price on the 85â X95L was $4299. So expect the same for the 85â Bravia 9
I'm confused. What did FOMO like the best?
What does it matter, the aim of the video is not for you to be a follower and buy what someone like but to look at the strength and weakness of each tech and decide whatrs best for you.
@@user-oq6sc1qm4j do you know as much as your doctor for whatever specialist you go to? No, I don't think so. FOMO breathes this stuff everyday. He has the experience and the eyes. Yes, we do want his opinion.
He purposely didnât say. The G4 is the tv of the year barely just making it over the A95L. Those are the facts.
@@Wileytiger-el6pu says who?
@@Wileytiger-el6pu The G4 cannot be superior to the A95L because of its inferior white light tech to make things bright which will dilute the color as the tv gets brighter. The A95L QD oled uses OD color which remains bright at high brightness levels.
Samsung got a better panel, but LG has a better image processor. Actually I believe Samsung has a better chip too, but doesnât have the software power. Sony has 8,000 LEDs, but Sony could not control 8,000 dimming zone yet. But Sony should be able to do that in next year or two.
Will the 2024 qm8 be in the comparison?
Yea i believe so and i can't wait like to see which is better bravia 9 or 2024 qm8
@@Kaijaron Sad that we can't compare with the TCL flagship since the B9 is the miniled flagship for Sony.
The real flagship is not for sale in the US. In China it is called the X11H.
It did make an appearance.
@@spyofborg TCL TV's in China are 1 year ahead of the rest of the world so you will get the X11H in the US next year under a different name.
@@rkeith7766 I know, I live in China :) But since the X11H is online for sale online and not in a store, I haven't seen how it performance vs the QM851G.
TCL qm851 gets my money soon
LG G4's price is dropping dramatically, it's already lower than Bravia 9, sony need to reconsider the price, LCD higher than OLED is not right! If Sony can not drop the price lower than OLED, I will consider LG G4. In terms of price, it's now actually G4 challenges Bravia 9.
Not in canada lol
Not in my country either. B9 cheaper than G4.
Is down by $1300 in Australia for a 65 inch
In uk both 77â Samsung and LG 40% cheaper than 85â b9
@@whitecrowuk575 40% wow that awesome. I got 65 inch G4 $4294 with 4yrs extra warranty..... usually $5700ish
If viewing angles were better Iâd get get it for my bright room
You'll have to keep in mind that the viewing angle issue is greatly magnified by the camera. When you're in-person you'd at best barely notice it in the black bars from those angles if that.
That thing cost like my first and second car.
Not worth it . Next year something came out already beating this
@@Yoga_Tv_buying You'll be waiting forever if you keep waiting on the next best thing. Figure out your needs, assess if you need it now or later, access price then go from there
Sony tv is still king of kings...đđđđđ
I am still want G4 price the only thing that has me looking at the Bravia 9
What about DSE on the Sony? That's why I got a QD-Oled, perfect uniformity!
wat it DSE and DTM ?
@@heikoklose84 DSE = dirty screen effect, the clouding and blotchiness that plagues LCD TVs. I assume DTM = dynamic tone mapping. DTM Off - TV uses a static table to map the input brightness of a picture to the real output brightness it is capable of rather than the static meta data provided by the content. Static meta data mostly tells the screen the minimal and maximal peak brightness of the whole movie / TV show episode.
DTM On - The TV tries to guess what output brightness would look the best on a per scene level based on both the input brightness, the static meta data as well as by analyzing the scene.
@@boomerscs9193 Thank your!
was fĂŒr ein Oled haben Sie sich geholt?@@boomerscs9193
Love my bravia 9. But the thing I cant stand about any motion editting is the terrible DSE around images at times. I wouldnt even mind the soap opera effect if it didnt alter the image with DSE so badly. I upgraded from an 8 year old Samsung, and it hasn't improved much in 8 years.
People buying these top tv's, are u still buying extra smart box for apps like apple tv 4k box?
I still use my Apple TV 4K 3rd gen with my B9 75â. Works like a charm.
I did test in 1080p Streaming and a lot USB 1080p bit content,,, I was able to get the TCL QM851 to look Flawless with much less SHADOWING and BLOOMING, BUT manly Shadow = DOWN ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, HRD 4K - FOMO has it right THO
So, do you wish you had the Bravia over the QM8? I'm trying to compare everything to the QM8 before pulling the trigger on it.
@@hutchrt0596 I got the G4 TCL 65 inch B9 75 inch. I will be setting up the B9 this weekend with friends. I don't have an answer totally. BUT from what I have got out of THE TCL is nothing but AWESOME as...... the off angle viewing is about 25 dg maximum..... then you loose little bits of everything slowly.... To be honest I could return the B9 but won't. In Australia đŠđș the B9 75inch to the TCL qm851 65 inch ... PRICE is 2.5 x the cost. Australia đŠđș doesn't do the 65 in B9. They marked it very sneekerly ... Go TCL you will save and be very happy đ đ
If you can get the B9 cheep at 65 inch I would get that or the TCL
@@bungalowtomcat1 I want to upgrade from my TCL 55" original R6. It has gone strong for many years and honestly still doesn't need replacing, it's just fomo of the next best thing now because I know technology has changed so much. I don't mind getting A. 65-in, but anything more than that wouldn't even deserve to be in my small living room. And they don't make 55-in anything of high quality anymore. LOL. Hisense does make their high-end one in a 55-in, but I've decided on the qma. Honestly, if they end up dropping the older model qma at a price that's ridiculous, I may still choose it over the new one just because I know the benefits are great but they're not worth it if I can get this thing for $700 or less for last year's QM8. I did hear this year's 7 is as good as last year's QM8........but I really need confirmation of that.
@@bungalowtomcat1 tcl processing is crap
@@Forthepeople21 ow yeh the SONY have excellent Processing đ đ
Factoring everything in, going with bravia 9
Brilliant. Appreciate you showing the names of the movies. That you are reviewing. Canât wait for the future. To order actors clothes online, gps coordinates of where a image was taken, being able to zoom with others while enjoying the same movie, being able to smell the experience in the movie , room temp controlled by movie scene and 4d without glasses. LOL
Where is the A95L vs B9, my point is Sony is trying to maximize profits by pushing reviewers to push B9, A95L still the best TV
Not for me it wasn't. I returned my A95L after 4 days. It may be the brightest OLED, but nowhere near bright enough for me. The Bravia 9 blows the A95L out of the water as far as I'm concerned!
News flash, not everyone is an OLED fanboy
â@Mike-jm5wt It's weird how OLED fans/fanboys are literally everywhere trying to defend OLED. I have a QD-OLED and I'm officially over OLED. This shit is not bright enough and ABL is a no go.
@@DV-ou1yu I think it's because most of them are video gamers and those are some of the most toxic people on the internet whereas LED owners are usually not gamers but rather movie lovers and regular human beings with children and wives and windows in their homes
@Mike-jm5wt Yea, that's a pretty bad take lol I'm a gamer and I do not like OLED like I thought I would, but then again I have a life too and don't have any interest defending a product lol.
I think the best way to put it is they are tech snobs who hate light for some reason or are losers wbo waste time trying to tell you why their preference is king
The 85inch B9 is my King of HDR TVs this year. Iâve never seen anything like it.
Yhea!