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- Kirk Cousins explains drafting another QB is "more the norm than the exception," which leads Mike Florio and Chris Simms to discuss why they aren’t convinced he saw that move coming. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #NFL
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How Kirk Cousins found out Falcons were drafting Michael Penix Jr. | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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To me it seems like worst case for cousins is he gets 100 million to sit on the bench. Sign me up for that deal any day of the week
Florio looking out for the feelings of the obscenely wealthy.
He won't sit, he would in all likelihood lift his no trade clause. And either requests a trade or the Falcons give Kirk permission to seek a trade.
Florio is literally beating the skeleton of a horse.
I need this all off season. Why would you want to take away from my enjoyment of this?
hahaha.
lol! Cry me a river, whaaa....whaaa...give me a kleenex, please, whaaa....lol
@@amagnificentmess5743 are you imitating a crying baby?
Because Florio is a huge Vikings fan and wanted Kirk back.
The only thing I can think of. Is the Falcons loved Penix and were afraid they couldn't pick another QB as good as him in future year's
the only thing i can think of is that the owner forced the gm and the coach to sign cousins... they didnt want cousins and fell in love with penix in the process...., so lets find a way to persuade Blank, rationalize the pick so that he would be ok with it.
Bingo !! 🎯. If they see Penix as a future star and perennial pro bowl qb, then you take him if your qb is 36 conking off an injury. Just because you suck doesn’t guarantee a pro bowl qb will be available when you pick , you could get a Pickett or an ej Manuel , or a Zach Wilson when you’re on the board. You never know how it will all stack up .
ITs not rocket science, Pennix was a top QB prospect and he slid in their eyes. ITs the QB position. You don't pass on that. Packers have shown it and have had franchise QB play going of for 30 years now. Other organization are scared to show the same but FAlcons are showing they aren't.
@@Slimkidd730 you just might be right. They figured they will be pretty good the next 2 years. Might be picking in the 20s instead of 8
@@Slimkidd730 exactly, all this drama is a waste of time IMO. Cousins isn't even that good!
Dude, Florio.....WE GET IT!!!! You sure this isnt a vikings podcast?
Florio still on the same subject 😂😂😂
Florio and Rich Eisen keep squaking about the same thing. I guess it's the only thing to talk about this offseason.
@@midknightfalconfan I guess it is attracting viewership, but it is annoying. And I’m a falcons fan LMAO
@@midknightfalconfanwhat about all the Atlanta radio stations? They won’t give it a rest either
And here you are 😂
I lowkey only click for the comments😂😂😂
Kirk has guaranteed 100 million, soooo he is in the BEST position possible !!!!
If it pans out for the Falcons it will make me laugh because of the histrionics we have seen over the pick. Falcons don't owe Cousins anything, they already giving him $100mln (coming off an injury at 36), and Kirk is man enough to deal with it, he''ll be fine, and I could imagine him and Penix getting on very well. Was it weird? - yes. Is it definitely stupid - no, we have to see.
It would be a lot more weird if Kirk was 30 and injury free.
I'll deal with 100 million guaranteed. Poor Kirk😪
3:32 i like the dog analogy from Mike, but as someone who has done this the younger dog usually brings the older dog back to life a little. Maybe Atlanta is hoping Penix lights a fire under Cousins.
Both dogs are new to this family, so the analogy doesn’t apply!!
Give it a rest. They signed Cousins and drafted Penix. We get it. Let’s just see how it plays out.
The only reason they drafted Penix is so they have a quarterback on Tuesday.
And if Cousins gets hurt, Penix will make the team a lot better. Your comment about Penix was flat disrespectful. Packers are happy they drafted Love high!!
it probably only cost the packers a Superbowl or two but hey, maybe Jordan Love will get them one.
All well and good, but Love has GB by the nuts for a big contract only playing 1 year ..
Hilarious that this drives Mike crazy that they are not lining up with his narrative.
It's called being a professional.
STOP trying to make trouble.
They’re never gonna stop talking about this are they?
Bro. This story is played. Just shut it down for the summer.
Oh hell nah. I need to be entertained by this all off season
It's just getting started.
Will you guys give this a rest. I think we've heard your opinion enough
I want more.
Why are you bothering to watch?
Kirk’s interview saying he joined the falcons bc the HC, mgmt, Owner and team were all in the same page will forever be incredibly funny.
So kirk says he has no problem w the pick but you still want to ride the narrative 🤦🏼♂️
Penix will bring Big Energy, whether he takes the field or not. This is a narrow minded take. Watching the Falcons will be fun now. I'm more excited to see it with Penix on the sidelines.
Chris Right? Simms Right?
Neither
Play the drinking game whenever Simms says "right." You'd be blitzed in about 3 minutes, right?
People STILL can’t get Dantonio’s name right lmao
It’s not rocket science they didn’t want another pat Mahone problem to happen. The current FO liked Mahomes were going to draft him but the chiefs jumped them knowing they were going to draft him. So they didn’t let anyone know so it didn’t get out they liked him and a team like the Vikings or raiders then jump them
I'm on the Falcon's side here, but I am enjoying Kirko getting rugpulled lmao.
He FLEECED Minnesota, then jumped for money and because wanted a comfy 4 years 180 mil. If Cousins wanted to win, he'd take a team-friendly Brady type deal somewhere. He wanted a long-term, high paying deal.
But drafting Penix shows that Atlanta is probably gonna dump him after 2 years lol.
Depends on Kirk's recovery and how well Penix play if Kirk isn't ready. Kirk might be done in 1 yr, but he is well rewarded though.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Kirks agent is already exploring potential future trade scenarios for his client. The bottom line is that this is the absolute last thing that Cousins wanted, the Falcons head coach and brass are trying their best to smooth it out. But this is a genuine QB controversy, and they created it.
Florio just can’t let it go. Even Simms is annoyed.
As a raider fan I’m pissed
Let's cut them a break, this is notoriously the toughest weeks of the year to come up with something to talk about. I feel em
They didn’t even like it when the falcons sign Kirk they just don’t like the falcons
Cousins doesn't have anything to worry about. Penix should worry about making the team.
The pick improved there qb room thus it improved the team
When you can have 2 QB's on the field at once, then yes. Otherwise, no.
The man has 1 playoff wins! 1 playoff wins! He ain't the one and never will be! He should thank the good Lord for his good fortune.
Are y’all still talking about this??🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Y’all act like you’re paying the contract. He’s getting 90 million guaranteed who cares if his feelings are hurt?
Not just these guys. All the Atlanta radio shows are still on about it. If I were you I’d just buckle up cause this isn’t going away until the season starts
Mike florio has made more videos hating on the falcons more than all his other videos combined
How long until Florio mentions somebody not working on Tuesdays?
Over/under 5 minutes.
Word leaked out that the only offer Kirk got was for 80 million dollars from the Raiders, however Kirk's agent told the Falcons that the offer was for 150 million. That's when the Falcons came back with 180 million. Arthur Blank was so mad when he found out, he told his staff to draft Pennix. Don't know if it's true but it does make sense.
Cousins was the most expensive smokescreen ever.
And it workerd, ATL got their QB for the next 15 years and can also win now, now that they have a MVP top 10 QB.
@@Slimkidd730 Atlanta outplayed and outsmarted themselves is what happened
@@srobeck77 Yall folks don't understand the modern game THEY LITERALLY SURED UP THE QB POSITION FOR THE BARE MINIMUM NEXT 12 YEARS!!!! How is this stupid?
Florio definitely still mad Cousins left his beloved Vikings. Straight bias outlook and emotion driven argument SMH
@@jamilmccall6553 o hes just purely entertained by it all, like the rest of us
Florio disrespects Stafford insinuating that Kirk D Cousins has the same amount of ability. Florio disrespects the Rams by insinuating that the Falcons can even get to a superbowl
I love that are still people who want to come in and support the Falcons drafting Penix and using all sorts of mental gymnastics. “Kirk’s 36.”, “He’s coming off a serious injury.”, “He’s only had one playoff win his whole career.”
Then why the hell did your team sign him, especially for (at least) $100m, when he’s, in your mind, just a bridge QB?
There’s only two scenarios that explain why the Falcons drafted Penix.
1. They had always planned to draft a QB in the first round in 2024. If true, then signing Cousins to that contract would be the dumbest decision they could have possibly made.
2. Like how Florio and Simms said: they wanted Daniels, realized they couldn’t get him, pivoted to Kirk, tried out Penix and like what they saw, panicked and reached for him with the 8th pick in fear of another team like Minnesota or Denver for LV drafting him. Still a dumb decision because they should have just made their focus in drafting one of the QBs that could have been available at #8. Seems like they were just flying by the seat of their pants.
❤way to go Kirk! Professional!
Fact: Vikes told Kirk they will draft his replacement. He didn't want to stick around. Nowhere to run now in Atlanta. Additionally, thanks to Kirk letting everyone know about tampering, Falcons will lose some draft picks next year. 😂
What has kirk done?
Nothing he stood in front of a mic and said this is more normal than not.
Get paid! And paid and paid again. 😂
So if Kirk plays well for the next 2 or three years, Penix has to wait until he's 26 or 27 to begin his career. Don't feel sorry for millionaires but the one I come closest to in this situation is Penix.
This is similar in some ways to when the Packers picked Jordan Love. In reality I think it worked out and it was a good call but Rodgers wanted out of Green Bay after that. But right now if I could have Love or Rodgers I’d take Love mostly due to age and salary. Rodgers is a great passer but ultimately he won’t help the Jets really. Rodgers is probably gone after this season. Meanwhile the Packers are looking like they’ll make some noise with Jordan.
They could have told cousins they are drafting 20 QB’s and he would have went. They offered way more money and security than Minnesota.
Every player is in competition for their job every day of their career. This is not really a story.
Lmao Kirk is the most expensive bridge QB in history. 😂😂
Hes always been a brige QB.. NObody thinks of him as a franchise guy..
I wish these so call sports talk host just let go they just mad because the select the QB at number 8 Falcons out smarter them
If kirk cousins wanted to win a superbowl, he should have stayed in Minnesota
The Falcons' decision was illogical, but the bigger issue at play is the pay gap between the QB position and everything else in the NFL.
Yeah, the water boy should make the $50M per year too. Makes perfect sense.
He chose to leave. $100M guaranteed. Deal with it and finish out the contract you signed. I’ll be pissed and take $100M. 😂
I realize you need to cover something in off season. Enough with click bate
I agree - if the Falcons made a mistake it was taking Cousins over Minshew. But, at the time they didn’t know they would like Penix so much or take him at 8. That has been established by Fontenot.
This is unconventional, but its not catastrophe. 9.6% of cap this year. 15% of cap next year. After that, percentages say Cousins will retire or be traded, if he wants to play. The cap hit is marginal in 2026 and 2027. Penix will be playing at the start of 2026, at the latest. In the meantime, if Cousins can’t play or can’t play up to his previous standard they have a QB to rely on.
Can we move on now?
Kirk’s cap hit is 60 mil this year. That alone is WAY more than 9% of the cap. Throw in Penix’s salary and they’ve gotta be the highest in the league.
@@Ninja_Skillz Wrong. His salary this year is about $67 million. That is not the cap. The cap hit is just 9.6% of the total cap (that is from OvertheCap). The cap hit next year is 15%. His combined average salary for 2024 and 2025 is $45 million a year, which is 8th largest (so far) for active QB’s. It will be about 10th largest once Dak Prescott and one or two others are extended.
Nope, it's not in the contract that says cannot pick a top 10 quarterback. You guys are making up your own rules. Adapt and stop crying a river. This is such old news. You're not shelling out the money, the owner has a say, not someone who hasn't put a penny in the contract. Lol!
I’m wondering lol did they lose money when the falcons chose Penix ? lol
This the norm cousins says hmmm well that never happened for 6 years with the vikes
Florio is missing the point. He's all wrapped up in Cousins being sold on Atlanta and then being backstabbed. He got 100 million guaranteed to come to Atlanta. Hes an aging 36 year old (in August '24) coming off an Achilles tear. Look what happened to Ryan in Atlanta. He hit 36 and was done. The Falcons remember that. Plus Cousins hasnt won a damn thing. He's a good QB but he cant single handedly lift a team. The Falcons were smart to draft the heir apparent . So what if Penix sits for 1 or 2 years and LEARNS. So what if Penix is 24 now. The Falcons have an insurance policy for 1-2 years if Cousins is bad or gets hurt. Cousins will be the starter at Atlanta i think for 2 years max and thats if he's healthy and good. Plus the Falcons probably going to get whacked for tampering and wont be able to procur a high level QB in the next couple years especially if they improve. Florio keeps harping about the money this 67 million. Ok the Falcons overpaid this year but werent going to get a decent starting caliber QB for less than 30 million. The cap hit is way less the next 2 years and Falcons can cut or trade him if need be.
Do you think the Packers wish they would’ve picked a receiver like Rogers I’m sure would have wanted, or are they happy they have Jordan Love now? Also, it’s only one draft pick. Hit on another pick. Oh , and Florio, still think the Jags are moving to London?? 😂
At some point who gives a crap. The guys is an employee, he’s well paid, so who cares.
The logic of the pick was sound in a couple ways. Shouldn't have a Top 15 pick when they do need a replacement to draft a QB that's done what only he and Mahomes have done in college. Then of course, why does anyone with half a football brain expect Cousins to make a minimum of 34 out of 34 regular season starts over the next 2 years? I'd be shocked if he at the very least doesn't miss a game here, a few games there. Then what if he reinjures the Achilles? Just cash it in, say we'll use our next years Top 10 to find somebody?
Most teams chuggin along, lose their starter are effed. There are exceptions, but they call them exceptions because they are...exceptions.
Atlanta did Kirk wrong
Kirk's Charlie Brown karma belongs in the Hall of Fame
The media is trying it's hardest to make this a thing. Why though? Just let it go already. I hope Kirk keep giving the media a stiff arm on the matter. It's over already... Move on
Chris how hard is this to underatand for you!? Mike i can undrrstand, but hes aging the roater is full of atars with contracys coming, hes coming off injury... this aint hard...at all
They’re mad they won’t be able to see Penix play this year if cousins stays healthy. This is not a bad pick. And they also disregard the next 3-4 picks falcons had were all dlinemen they collectively may have more impact than drafting one pass rusher in the top 8. I’ll b honest the pick that we should have gotten scrutinized for was taking Kyle pitts over Micah parsons. But everyone loved us taking KP at 4 lol.
BO Nix going 12th should be the bigger story.. lol
They still mad
Dear god just let it go
100% willing to bear my soul for $400,000,000.
Could it have been smoother? Sure.
Don’t weep for the dude that is going to retire as the highest paid player in NFL history.
Funny a “stud” pass rusher didn’t go in this draft till what 14/15 and even then he has “injury history”. This pick was clearly for this future. Almost the rest of the draft was defensive line😂 Rah created multi sack guys in LA & we still have Grady Onyamata and now like 8 2-4 round pass rushers on the roster and the offseason ain’t over yet.
And Kirk will get over his feelings 😂 with that 100 mil. Swear these guys be making up bs pre draft stories and allegations
Cousins is mature man. Florio? Not so much
Nice subtitle: “More the norm than the EXPECTATION” uhh what?! Do you mean “exception?”
Must be letting Simms write the subtitles. 🤣
cousins should have known his entire lackluster career that he’s a glorified overcompensated bridge qb and any team will look to upgrade longterm when the opportunity pops up.
The vikings except the clueless hc, were praying cousins would leave, and now the falcons wisely potentionally got their future franchise qb.
cousins seems to be a bright guy who understand patterns.
Hey cousins, the falcons paid for a somewhat competitive team qb, now has their future, which you know no team angling for an eventual deep playoff team can get there with you as qb.
When your former hc has to tell you to throw the football, then it’s clear you have a ceiling.
Bank heisting Kirk.
As Cousins limps around ... the team drafts a quarterback / How is this shocking?
And why would anybody care what Cousins thinks he's made $300,000,000.00 dollars and won a playoff game or two
....and while limping around, offered a monster fully guaranteed/no trade clause contract by Atlanta. Pure genius move, wait no, absolute comedy is what it is.
@@srobeck77 100 mill guaranteed is normal for good QB. Its 50 a year.....Hell Daniel Jones makes 45 a year.. lol
Cousins is solid but coming off a season ending injury. With all the qb injuries last yr this could just be preparing for the what if.
With that about of doubt, it's almost as though a fully guaranteed contract shouldnt have been offered in the first place....
Raheem Morris passed on a DARNOLD to draft GOFF when he already had STAFFORD. Huh? Dumbest move in NFL history!
I just really like to know why this makes you so angry. Cause you are angry at the falcons. This is personal feelings at its best
He wants cousins on his Vikings
Week 13 WhoreRio. Keep that same energy and be sure to bust out the old Tamper Tampon excuse when you’re all out of options and reality sets in. Hating on another small market team who hasn’t won anything is WILD bro😂
Kirko is fragile. He does not want to be challenged. He left MN. cuz they were open with him and told him they were drafting his replacement.
man get tf overrrrr it 🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽
They drafted him to keep em from The Saints...lol sad
Kirk isnt on Alex Smith level
Kirk reminds me of like Alex Smith or Matt Ryan
What? Kirk is better than AleX Smith
Yeah, Alex Smith and Cousins were nearly League MVP/Superbowl MVP in the same year like Matt...@@johnlewandoski1645
You beating a dead horse now. Juust stop with this. It's a business and a business decision out of his control. It's about money and winning and Kirk knows no matter it's out of his control. As a business Falcons know that once an athlete is injured they are never 100% of what they previously were anytime soon. And injuries of this time takes more than a year to completely heal. He is still going thru rehab at this point too. Anyone that's ever had a hamstring tear can tell you as an athlete the side effects last longer than a year, much less this injury more serious. The best thing Atlanta Falcons could do is secure the most NFL ready QB to lockdown the QB ever being a question anymore. Let it go. Don't cry because Penix did not go to the Vikings, Mike ...let it go...it's a dead issue. I had already seen Kirk Cousins as "damaged goods" and ATL paid way too much for him. Kirk got his money no matter if he never starts a game for ATL, got paid more than he is worth as damaged goods. Cousins goes down we are screwed again. GREAT DECISION TERRY AND STAFF !!!
My dad is a lying POS!
- Chris Simms
So tired of hearing about this shit! Kirk has won 1 playoff game in his career
Kirko will be dealt next year. The contract SCREAMS that! 🤯
except no one will want a 37 year old QB with that salary
Yt asked me to rate your comment. 😂😂
@@gone4days956 he’ll cost $33 mill next year with outs to cut him year 3 or 4. ATL essentially buying a draft pick for him next year, while giving rookie time to watch a pro prepare for games. Only way Kirko can’t get dealt, is if he plays poorly. Which is definitely a possibility.
@@daviddidder3781 Now that you have Penix, would you rather have Kirk and his contract or no Kirk and a ton of cap space to get more free agents? If you say you still want kirk your lying.
@@gone4days956 should have NEVER signed Kirko! I’m a Vikings fan. ATL bid against themselves to boot. Would have been signed Hunter and drafting Penix. However, when looking at the contract, Kirko will be dealt at end of year.
😂😂😂 THE SAGA CONTINUES.
It’s the circle of life for when the red skins did that bs to RG3 in the draft.. drafting 2 QBs in the top 3 rounds. It just some wierd payback lol.
I disagree Penix is going to be Great! ATL is doing what the Eagles Always do make sure you QB2 is ready.And Kirk is a 2 year deal
He had major 4 season ending surgeries in college alone....ya cant wait to see the Vegas betting odds on his first NFL major injury.
@@srobeck77 Hanst been injured in 2 yrs..
SMH, spent hours of content on this and cousins doesn’t give him the response he wants so it’s stay tuned it coming lol
This man Florio is so hurt. Cousins will be great for two years and then Pennix will step in Year 3. Little guaranteed money in year three ($10M)
FFS these guys have some HATE for this move. Its kinda sad.
I loved this move. Pure, unadulterated, disaster in progress type of entertainment by the Falcons
Cousins has done nothing his entire career. He should feel blessed that teams were dumb enough to give him so much money.
silverling is that in a few years the Falcons can get out of Kirk's contract and open up alot of cap space for free agents!
Bro just bored asf at this point! How long we gone keep talking about my falcons making the best move to progress our franchise ? Go buy a Kirk jersey since it’s topic EVERYYYYYYDAYYYYYYY
Kirk has never really done anything accept make a shitload of money. Even in college russ beat him EVERY TIME it was a big game. Good luck even winning your division.
Florio still sounding more and more like a salty ex. There was no piece in the draft that was going to make ATL drastically better. Quit with the 180 mil dollars for an aging QB, we all know its only 2 years. Blank isnt getting any younger and if ATL has to deal with another Mariota/Ridder situation after Kirk is done for a couple of years, I would take Penix again.
Poor Kirk we’ll burry you out back behind the barn don’t worry
Cousins is done, Falcons wasted their money on his injured mediocre ass!!!!
Karma's a bitch. Christian boy Kirk pandered with Atlanta and then assisted pandering with a WR from Chicago I believe. Oh well Kirkie boy. Yes I'm a Viking fan
Also I'll talk ABOUT the ELEPHANT in the Room. This is Atlanta! No City needs a black quarterback or black star more than the Falcons. They can't sell that stadium out. They need a QB like Michael Vick was back in the day 2 excite that City. That's the uncomfortable TRUTH that you guys don't understand
Racist remarks by you is the actual "uncomfortable TRUTH that you dont understand". Also spits in the face of Martin Luther King too: "“Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.”
@@srobeck77 Hes right though. Atl is the black capital of the U.S.
If a Cuban QB got drafted by the Dolphins to be their future starter it would be magical in the same way.
@@mrgannon wheres the white capital at?
@@srobeck77 Salt Lake City
@@mrgannon wheres the asian capital? I wanna go there since they are the richest race in america today and see how they live
JJ McCarthy isn’t going to help the Vikings this year either I doubt he beats Sam Darnold for the starting job. So there you go, Florio, your Vikings are stupid too.
Darnold is on a 1yr, $10mil contract. He is only there for this year. Cousins got 4yrs with $100mil guaranteed. Falcons can't just move on from him next year without a Russell Wilson level dead cap hit.