How did this guy know so much about history? I know some things have been revised and he teetered on subjectivity at times, but he had such a phenomenal general knowledge that I don't know how I'd walk through the world in his shoes without thinking 95% of the people around me were ignorant peons.
They were studying in a university. You imagine that they came up with all of this on their own out of thin air? People take "ancient' knowledge and suit it for their own times and contemporaries, where it is often mistaken for their own rare genius, long after they are dead. True, they spent a great deal more time than most reading, thinking, and reflecting. The average person is not steeped in reason but neck deep in BS, and that is exactly where they want to be. Plenty do right well by it, socially and economically and they don't want their s - - t stirred.
Leahcim Olrac - Hegel had one grand system, he assigned one plot to history, and crammed everything into it, i.e., Plato did not see "subjective idea" - for Plato, the Ideals or Forms were objective - thus Aristotle would not have been able to "synthesise" Plato with Democritus' "objective matter". 1:12:31 It's easy when you stick to your guns and everything is transformed into fodder for your philosophy. You see religious dogmatists of all kinds - Christian, Islamic, Jewish - doing that also, as well as dogmatic materialist scientism. Hegel had his model, others have theirs. Hegel replaced God with Reason. What moves things behind the scenes and what eventually pans out. It's almost tautological. How far does Hegel's model help us today to predict the future? To define our ideals? To produce better political systems? I don't know. He seems to have been a man of his times. His star is descending. He doesn't have many followers or people who check what he said in making decisions. Unlike, let's say, Jesus with his more simple and direct message, who has more followers than ever - over 2.5 billion, 1/3 of the world's population. Complexity is not the criterion, effective transmutation towards something better is. "By their fruits ye shall know them." I wonder what Hegel would have made of the history of Russia after his death. 1860 - serfs freed in a very Christian Russia under the Tsar. 1917 - Bolshevik Revolution, atheistic, materialistic, state control economy, repressive, thought and travel restrictions. 1991 - Soviet Union collapsed, free enterprise returns, freedom to travel, Christianity flourishes again... Russia probably would have evolved to something like today even without the Soviet hiccup.
@@virvisquevir3320 you fucking idiot. How many places are you gonna copy and paste that trite garbage. Hey idiot, opinions are like assholes - everybody has one.
Hello. *Which book is this from?* (The Story of Philosopgy contails only "A Note on Hegel" [subsection in the chapter on Kant, almost an afterthought], so it's not that.) [Edit: I think I know now; it's from the final volume of The Story of Civilization.]
هذا كل ما اريد (( الاقامة )) معه لبقية حياتي ....كنت هناك دائما ...على تلك التخوم دائما ....(( سحابة اللامعرفة )) ...معرفة السحابة ....لاشيئ مما اسمعه في هذه (( المعابد )) غريب عن عقلي او قلبي ....ترى ،هل راتني تلك (( العين )) السرمدية في تطوافي الطويل ...المشي الطويل ...في الصحاري المتاخمة لمدينتي الصغيرة على مدى اربعين عاما كاملا ...ذلك انني بدات (( المشي )) مبكرا جدا ....ومامن شيئ في العالم استحق ان يكون بديلا او حتى شريكا في ذلك المشي الذهني ...مشي بالروح والجسد ....وتكرار الحضور امام السؤال ....اووه لم يكن ذلك هو الفلسفة بحصر المعنى ...لقد كان ايضا (( شهوة )) وكان امطارا من (( الحدوس )) والصور ...و (( العلامات )) ....ها انا على وشك ان اغضب من تخشب الابجدية ، وقد يدفعني الشطح الغاضب الى انها كانت ( مضاجعة لجسد العالم ) او ....ام انه العالم هو الذي ضاجعنا داخل معابد ومكتباب مزحومة بالمتخصصين في (( العهر المقدس )) ....
How could the hegelian Marx not see that humans cannot be in a planned economy as long as they are "becoming". Planned economies are antithesis of synthesis
I think he probably knew that somewhere in his mind. I tend to agree with Wolfgang Eckhardt that much of Marx's prescriptions were reactions to critiques by anarchists of the time whom he agreed with on most major positions; especially those which would lend towards a decentralized planning
Because Marx didn't believe in planned economies. A marxist society is by definition stateless. Marx was mainly a critic of capitalism, he didn't even like socialist "planned economy" ideas.
Amazing to think that this spot is now a four lane highway, although just a couple of meters into the rainforest either side of the highway is just like this even today. I have walked in this rainforest many times and I probably feel a similar awe to what Conrad Martens felt on that day so long ago. It is a beautiful place. Conrad Martens might not be as famous as some other painters, but his poetic appreciation of the Australian bush at that time is quite wonderful. A great Australian artist with a great heart for pioneer life.
The princes lived in their world the ordinary people same. You can't use intellectual theories on simple folk's. Lenin Trotsky intellectual theories, wernt understood by the serfs of backward heritage.
I wonder if Jefferson was influenced by Fichte. Fichte's suggestions for mandatory education for all, encouraging moral uniformity and a none to subtle state control of the individual soul sounds an awful lot like the system implemented by that cowardly slave raping yuppy Thomas Jefferson. A system which tells you how to think and live, all the while insisting that you are free, and should be grateful for this freedom they have provided for you. If so, then Fichte's ideas have had a direct impact on my life, on my soul, on all of ours. You see, friends, when we study history, especially the history of ideas and how these ideas have influenced our lives and institutions, we are not studying something aloof and separate from ourselves. Every individual will, within the system, is a reflection, a microcosm of the whole. To study history and philosophy is to study one's self, literally. Interesting that Fichte should start as an anarchist and evolve into a sort of totalitarian. The young Will Durant once embraced an anarchist interpretation of history, though he claimed to have outgrown it later on.
Roman Brown interesting indeed and he is not the only one.many people wanting freedom for themself seem to have some "subliminal" desire for order and authority.Just think of rousseau.
Jefferson was influenced by Rousseau - as most people still are (not knowingly of course; it is far more important to have detailed knowledge about factual merchandise, brands and public figures called 'celebrities'). To make 'Bildung'* mandatory is just a german notion of Fichtes time, a crude (yet oddly effective and thus sublime...) repulsion of the mandatory catechism, mandatory obediance to magistrates and the mandatory compulsion of every german prince to conscript his subjects for a career as cannon-fodder. *a.k.a. "education"
Roman Brown nah Jefferson just recognized that most people aren’t intelligent enough to be allowed to develop freely without an education ordered by better men. Without this system, they would degenerate the moral community they belong to without slowing down.
Leahcim Olrac - Hegel had one grand system, he assigned one plot to history, and crammed everything into it, i.e., Plato did not see "subjective idea" - for Plato, the Ideals or Forms were objective - thus Aristotle would not have been able to "synthesise" Plato with Democritus' "objective matter". 1:12:31 It's easy when you stick to your guns and everything is transformed into fodder for your philosophy. You see religious dogmatists of all kinds - Christian, Islamic, Jewish - doing that also, as well as dogmatic materialist scientism. Hegel had his model, others have theirs. Hegel replaced God with Reason. What moves things behind the scenes and what eventually pans out. It's almost tautological. How far does Hegel's model help us today to predict the future? To define our ideals? To produce better political systems? I don't know. He seems to have been a man of his times. His star is descending. He doesn't have many followers or people who check what he said in making decisions. Unlike, let's say, Jesus with his more simple and direct message, who has more followers than ever - over 2.5 billion, 1/3 of the world's population. Complexity is not the criterion, effective transmutation towards something better is. "By their fruits ye shall know them." I wonder what Hegel would have made of the history of Russia after his death. 1860 - serfs freed in a very Christian Russia under the Tsar. 1917 - Bolshevik Revolution, atheistic, materialistic, state control economy, repressive, thought and travel restrictions. 1991 - Soviet Union collapsed, free enterprise returns, freedom to travel, Christianity flourishes again... Russia probably would have evolved to something like today even without the Soviet hiccup.
@@zionistkid - Yes, you're right, Hegel was a fucking idiot. Or are you referring to yourself? Or perhaps Marx. You're not very articulate, are you? Oh, well, I guess some people are fucking idiots. Cheers!
01:17 Fichte: 1762-1814
08:01 The Philosopher (Fichte and Schelling)
30:30 Hegel (1770-1831)
23:39 Schelling
How did this guy know so much about history? I know some things have been revised and he teetered on subjectivity at times, but he had such a phenomenal general knowledge that I don't know how I'd walk through the world in his shoes without thinking 95% of the people around me were ignorant peons.
They were studying in a university. You imagine that they came up with all of this on their own out of thin air? People take "ancient' knowledge and suit it for their own times and contemporaries, where it is often mistaken for their own rare genius, long after they are dead. True, they spent a great deal more time than most reading, thinking, and reflecting. The average person is not steeped in reason but neck deep in BS, and that is exactly where they want to be. Plenty do right well by it, socially and economically and they don't want their s - - t stirred.
Leahcim Olrac - Hegel had one grand system, he assigned one plot to history, and crammed everything into it, i.e., Plato did not see "subjective idea" - for Plato, the Ideals or Forms were objective - thus Aristotle would not have been able to "synthesise" Plato with Democritus' "objective matter". 1:12:31
It's easy when you stick to your guns and everything is transformed into fodder for your philosophy. You see religious dogmatists of all kinds - Christian, Islamic, Jewish - doing that also, as well as dogmatic materialist scientism. Hegel had his model, others have theirs.
Hegel replaced God with Reason. What moves things behind the scenes and what eventually pans out. It's almost tautological.
How far does Hegel's model help us today to predict the future? To define our ideals? To produce better political systems?
I don't know.
He seems to have been a man of his times. His star is descending. He doesn't have many followers or people who check what he said in making decisions. Unlike, let's say, Jesus with his more simple and direct message, who has more followers than ever - over 2.5 billion, 1/3 of the world's population. Complexity is not the criterion, effective transmutation towards something better is. "By their fruits ye shall know them."
I wonder what Hegel would have made of the history of Russia after his death. 1860 - serfs freed in a very Christian Russia under the Tsar. 1917 - Bolshevik Revolution, atheistic, materialistic, state control economy, repressive, thought and travel restrictions. 1991 - Soviet Union collapsed, free enterprise returns, freedom to travel, Christianity flourishes again... Russia probably would have evolved to something like today even without the Soviet hiccup.
@@virvisquevir3320 you fucking idiot. How many places are you gonna copy and paste that trite garbage. Hey idiot, opinions are like assholes - everybody has one.
zionistkid - "Zionist Kid", LOL.
@@kenrichard4575 Herbert Spencer was a pretty unlearned dude when he came up with his philosophy although Heraclitus predates him.
Hello. *Which book is this from?* (The Story of Philosopgy contails only "A Note on Hegel" [subsection in the chapter on Kant, almost an afterthought], so it's not that.) [Edit: I think I know now; it's from the final volume of The Story of Civilization.]
The Story of Civilization, Volume 11
25:30
This goes hard af damn
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 55:44
هذا كل ما اريد (( الاقامة )) معه لبقية حياتي ....كنت هناك دائما ...على تلك التخوم دائما ....(( سحابة اللامعرفة )) ...معرفة السحابة ....لاشيئ مما اسمعه في هذه (( المعابد )) غريب عن عقلي او قلبي ....ترى ،هل راتني تلك (( العين )) السرمدية في تطوافي الطويل ...المشي الطويل ...في الصحاري المتاخمة لمدينتي الصغيرة على مدى اربعين عاما كاملا ...ذلك انني بدات (( المشي )) مبكرا جدا ....ومامن شيئ في العالم استحق ان يكون بديلا او حتى شريكا في ذلك المشي الذهني ...مشي بالروح والجسد ....وتكرار الحضور امام السؤال ....اووه لم يكن ذلك هو الفلسفة بحصر المعنى ...لقد كان ايضا (( شهوة )) وكان امطارا من (( الحدوس )) والصور ...و (( العلامات )) ....ها انا على وشك ان اغضب من تخشب الابجدية ، وقد يدفعني الشطح الغاضب الى انها كانت ( مضاجعة لجسد العالم ) او ....ام انه العالم هو الذي ضاجعنا داخل معابد ومكتباب مزحومة بالمتخصصين في (( العهر المقدس )) ....
Didn't the locals sweep this forest?
great upload. thanks
Thankyou for sharing
How could the hegelian Marx not see that humans cannot be in a planned economy as long as they are "becoming". Planned economies are antithesis of synthesis
Maybe he knew all that n was working on behalf of The Supreme Evil Being ?
#ThinkAboutIt
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I think he probably knew that somewhere in his mind. I tend to agree with Wolfgang Eckhardt that much of Marx's prescriptions were reactions to critiques by anarchists of the time whom he agreed with on most major positions; especially those which would lend towards a decentralized planning
Because Marx didn't believe in planned economies. A marxist society is by definition stateless. Marx was mainly a critic of capitalism, he didn't even like socialist "planned economy" ideas.
thanks for sharing
to beer or not to beer dhat is the question/ to drink's or not to drink dhat is the question?
Dauphin River First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦
Cold-nada! Anyone?
What's the name of the painting?
Shoot, I just asked. No response.... I like it too.
Conrad Martens, Forest, Cunningham's Gap, 1856, Watercolour on paper
Amazing to think that this spot is now a four lane highway, although just a couple of meters into the rainforest either side of the highway is just like this even today. I have walked in this rainforest many times and I probably feel a similar awe to what Conrad Martens felt on that day so long ago. It is a beautiful place. Conrad Martens might not be as famous as some other painters, but his poetic appreciation of the Australian bush at that time is quite wonderful. A great Australian artist with a great heart for pioneer life.
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@@tibormarkovic3637 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@25:05 ---- "how the hot blood runs through my veins..."
.." i love a plump bosom" the desire of the flesh overcame him :-)
Schelling was great
Hegel flagel magel splagel, craigel, bagel, stragel plalagel.
Very deep, very philosophical indeed.
23:40 SCHELLING 1775 - 1854
31:18 SKEPTIC'S PROGRESS
47:39 MIND
54:55 MORALITY, LAW, AND THE STATE
1:04:37 HISTORY
1:13:18 DEATH AND RETURN
What book is this from?
The Age of Napoleon, p. 197ff.
Philosophy For Dummies . Book 3.
love Durant but dude haters goin hate hegel
I think that was meant to critize Hegel and his followers?
Winnipeg Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦
Is German Philosophy a big thing
in Manitoba. ? I didn't get that
impression on my last visit.
The Guess Who
1:03:00
You cant pretend that youre aristotle if you dont have a set of categories
Yeah!!!!!
It is odd how much German philosophy reminds me of the philosophy which precedes Germany by one and a half millennia.
As in Greek philosophy?
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You silly Kant, you Kant do it.
The painting is a masterpiece by Dyck van Wyck titled " Manbearpig stalking village idiot ".
Are you serial?
@@MorusAlba1975 I'm superdoopersupersuper serial.
Which village is missing you ?
Ok, I see, I think, the idiot. Where's the owlbear?
"In the beginning was the LOGOS and the LOGOS was with God and the LOGOS was God." John 1:1
The princes lived in their world the ordinary people same. You can't use intellectual theories on simple folk's. Lenin Trotsky intellectual theories, wernt understood by the serfs of backward heritage.
They made an impression on the Czar ?
I wonder if Jefferson was influenced by Fichte. Fichte's suggestions for mandatory education for all, encouraging moral uniformity and a none to subtle state control of the individual soul sounds an awful lot like the system implemented by that cowardly slave raping yuppy Thomas Jefferson. A system which tells you how to think and live, all the while insisting that you are free, and should be grateful for this freedom they have provided for you. If so, then Fichte's ideas have had a direct impact on my life, on my soul, on all of ours. You see, friends, when we study history, especially the history of ideas and how these ideas have influenced our lives and institutions, we are not studying something aloof and separate from ourselves. Every individual will, within the system, is a reflection, a microcosm of the whole. To study history and philosophy is to study one's self, literally. Interesting that Fichte should start as an anarchist and evolve into a sort of totalitarian. The young Will Durant once embraced an anarchist interpretation of history, though he claimed to have outgrown it later on.
Fichte lacked faith in humanity.
Roman Brown interesting indeed and he is not the only one.many people wanting freedom for themself seem to have some "subliminal" desire for order and authority.Just think of rousseau.
Jefferson was influenced by Rousseau - as most people still are (not knowingly of course; it is far more important to have detailed knowledge about factual merchandise, brands and public figures called 'celebrities').
To make 'Bildung'* mandatory is just a german notion of Fichtes time, a crude (yet oddly effective and thus sublime...) repulsion of the mandatory catechism, mandatory obediance to magistrates and the mandatory compulsion of every german prince to conscript his subjects for a career as cannon-fodder.
*a.k.a. "education"
Roman Brown nah Jefferson just recognized that most people aren’t intelligent enough to be allowed to develop freely without an education ordered by better men. Without this system, they would degenerate the moral community they belong to without slowing down.
Fichte was not a pacifist.
Leahcim Olrac - Hegel had one grand system, he assigned one plot to history, and crammed everything into it, i.e., Plato did not see "subjective idea" - for Plato, the Ideals or Forms were objective - thus Aristotle would not have been able to "synthesise" Plato with Democritus' "objective matter". 1:12:31
It's easy when you stick to your guns and everything is transformed into fodder for your philosophy. You see religious dogmatists of all kinds - Christian, Islamic, Jewish - doing that also, as well as dogmatic materialist scientism. Hegel had his model, others have theirs.
Hegel replaced God with Reason. What moves things behind the scenes and what eventually pans out. It's almost tautological.
How far does Hegel's model help us today to predict the future? To define our ideals? To produce better political systems?
I don't know.
He seems to have been a man of his times. His star is descending. He doesn't have many followers or people who check what he said in making decisions. Unlike, let's say, Jesus with his more simple and direct message, who has more followers than ever - over 2.5 billion, 1/3 of the world's population. Complexity is not the criterion, effective transmutation towards something better is. "By their fruits ye shall know them."
I wonder what Hegel would have made of the history of Russia after his death. 1860 - serfs freed in a very Christian Russia under the Tsar. 1917 - Bolshevik Revolution, atheistic, materialistic, state control economy, repressive, thought and travel restrictions. 1991 - Soviet Union collapsed, free enterprise returns, freedom to travel, Christianity flourishes again... Russia probably would have evolved to something like today even without the Soviet hiccup.
fucking idiot
So life is a mystery like the madonna song?
Shut the fuck up keith
@@zionistkid - Yes, you're right, Hegel was a fucking idiot. Or are you referring to yourself? Or perhaps Marx. You're not very articulate, are you? Oh, well, I guess some people are fucking idiots. Cheers!
Franco-Prussian War 1870, WW1-1914. WW2-1939, your Philosophy is irrelevant
It would have been a wonderful correction to mankind if this trip of comedians had ever bothered to make a study of Chemistry. Idealist drivel !!!
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