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I chanced upon the works of Spinoza in a library when I was in my mid-twenties (many decades ago now). I recall thinking to myself, "this is it, this is what I've been searching for." My admiration has only grown over the years. I made a pilgrimage, of sorts, to The Hague in the mid-1980s to see Spinoza's statue --- the one Dr. Durant refers to at the end of this presentation. I believe that Spinoza came the closest to truth as anyone who's ever lived. His work is a coherent account of the universe and man's place within it; a system of thought based on reason, logic and, yes, plain common sense, without recourse to superstition, ancient myths and "holy" books. Not only was he a brilliant philosopher, he was, by all accounts, an exemplary human being. Ah, that there were more men like Spinoza walking this troubled orb.
This is might be my favorite Durant chapter about a single thinker. The very last sentence might be one of the most beautiful things a man could have ever said about another man. I wish I could describe it in a way that doesn't devolve into clichés, but it really is incredible the impact a life devoted to great thought can have.
Anything, in my experience by Will Durant, are so clear and concise, a joy to read or listen. Once again thank goodness for CZcams. Always makes my day.
CZcams comments never fail to disappoint me. Half the commenters, especially those hung up on the history of Judaism in the first *two* minutes, I accuse outright of not listening for more than *four* minutes themselves - I found the history spelled out in the beginning provided an important frame of reference for introducing the hero of this lecture. Spinoza is a wealth of understanding. I suspect it would take a lifetime to develop an adequate understanding of the Ethics, but the most rewarding sensations I have ever felt were earned only after extreme effort, so maybe that would be a life well spent. A heartfelt "thank you" to our humble uploader, and sheer graditute for Will Durant, who wrote the content being narrated.
He also wrote more forward writings, such as the emendation of the intellect and a short treatise on god, man and his wellbeing. Alot of people assume thinkers impenetrable. Instead of acquiring some grace and perspicasity into a thinker (also, a writers) work. Read around abit. Start from somewhere. Use your whole mind, you can do it. There's a whole world of ideas out there for you.
The cursory examination of anything and everything exacted by idiots, feed into the cauldron of the demise of mind in the destruction of the human race. Fuck them and the epistemological horse they rode in on.
When you "hang up" on Jewish civilization long enough (at least until you wheeze), you'll understand why Durant constructs his essay as he does. The Amsterdam colony was very mercantile but intellectual small-fry, shell-shocked refugees from the HRE (incl Habsburg Spain). The 16 year old genius should have grabbed at the deal. He stomped on the Stoic level of highest Jewish scholarship (& couldn't gotten very far into it by 16), and pranced out into the contemporary global society, cohabiting and comprising with it. Epicthetus and M.A. would have bellowed with laughter at his self-crucifixion, while charmed by some of his poetry. He would have fared much better if he had been raised in Istanbul.
Dear sir thank you for your efforts and patience in introducing one of the giants of philosophy and ethics to us and to me . Your well wisher Walid from kabul afghanistan
I was very impressed, in my youth, by the eloquence of this chapter, but today, 40 years later, I also see this as masterful, humorous and honest, having read quite a few summaries of Spinoza's life, all mostly negative (sadly). Thank you for the memories.
Sponiza is someone who I've been largely unfamiliar with, although I did know that his influence was monumental. But after knowing his life story, I think he more than even the most profound thinkers represent that reason doesn't fear investigation but embraces it.
Reason in geometrical form, which (IMHO) ends in a blind alley of unrelatablility. A broad generalization but one of my own big take aways of Spinoza's work. Oh, and he sounds a little authoritarian at times when we get past the evils church versus one.
A man that was able to travel between religions is a international mind,he is not jewish or anything else,He is a man, an intelectual,someone who takes the time to create a theory and he hands his thoughts to us and we inherit his way of thinking and if we agree with it or not,I am sure that we can not dismiss his entire reasoning,but nevertheless we remain thankful for he advocated for freedom of expression and fought those that try to restrain him,so there you have a great man,so I thank Will Durant for his presentation and Spinoza as he Existed and still is among us,if not so what are doing acknowledging his existence.Bear in mind he died young and was not able to finish his work .such is our loss.
Spinoza is very Jewish. He represents the best of the Jewish people....Jewishness at its essence is about the human experience. Judaism, the religion is a by product of Jewishness, The Jewish People. Einstein recognized this.
@@EinsteinKnowedIt I get that sense from this presentation. And to be fair, a lot of his core ideas seem to be way way way older, it's just that he reintroduced and reformed them in a time and place was entirely alien and tyrannical in another mode of thinking.
I've noticed, by looking at the comments on these videos and using Google Trends, that Durant is very popular in the Islamic world. I'm from America, Will's homeland, but that isn't where he is most well-known nowadays. Apparently Iran is where he is most popular, followed by Morocco, Pakistan, Egypt, and Iraq. I don't know why he is searched so much more in these places, maybe someone from the Islamic world can inform me. But it warms my heart that despite all our differences, we can come together and bond over this great man's writing and philosophy.
Superbe ! Especially he looks like is teaching in a sweet way! The best speaker forever ! He made the philosophy very understanding and interesting ! Bravo ☺️🌸🍀👏👏👏
I read the Durant series as a teen--wonderful to revisit them again in this .manner. Spinoza did indeed come from a tradition and culture which was similar to the west today, except he was reacting against a personal religious stronghold, whereas today it is more likely to be an institutional secularism that one must escape to be a freethinker.
Gatinha Bella that’s an interesting perspective though many believe the hostage taking of religious fundamentalism (among all religions) is still the greatest tyranny over the human mind.
@@noaheinstein2369 I think your point is the reason for Gatinha Bellas perspective for where in the west is this "religious fundamentalism" that is such a tyrant over the mind of Man but yet we do live in a world that all most demands that it's subjects think correctly and behave in accordance, this way of life kills free thinking just as the Theologians have done in days gone by. side note : Man wills to rule Man and will do so by all and any means.
Moortje Arkhorn I totally agree with much in your comment, but respectfully disagree in some ways. Yes there is some “mob rule” from the far left fringe and it must be challenged. But the overwhelming evidence indicates this same mob rule is much more abundant on the right and even from the middle. It’s overwhelming to live in the midst of Christian hegemony. There’s no other correct name for it than Christian hegemony. It controls the otherwise free minds of most Americans presently. It carries its own indoctrination of children and continues to reinforce this brainwashing so that science has an uphill climb to even penetrate the brain, much less offer logical thinking as a more valid approach to issues before us. This has made such laws as physics and gravity all but useless since most passionate Christians and Muslims ultimately reject these in favor of their own emotional comfort. Here I speak of scientific discoveries as evolution, or even the origin of the universe, and even minimal enlightenment regarding race, or homosexuality, or the role of women in family and culture.
So I read that Spinoza is the preferred Philosopher of Science, probably, as said at the beginning, because his foundations were in the kind of function-to-form that was interpreted as spiritual embodiment, actually a Math-mechanism Principle that fits universal mind in the universal body of Physics. So how perceived functionalisms are manifested in literature has natural dualistic mind-body alternatives according to the "nomenclatures" of the literary medium.., Philosophy. Substantiation, function cause-effect of time duration timing, modulated substance In-form-ation. It's a principle and theme. Well worth hearing Will Durant on Spinoza.
If he did how could he say Christopher Columbus discovered America? America has always been there. And people already lived there. We have to be very careful at what we take in.
@@truthsetsyoufree6581 Of course Columbus discovered America. No one understood the true contours of the world before he made his epic journey. The American Indians didn’t know another continent existed, neither did the Vikings who visited Newfoundland; nor did the Chinese, Africans, Persians, or anyone else, it was Columbus that brought that reality to humanity. That’s what it means to say he discovered America. It changed everything.
@@graterdeddly9527 They did what they had to do we do not have to pretend it is right nor it's the norm. You know this very well. Hypocrisy cannot get you to the truth. We are in deep troubles because we have been following the lowest minds of all time.
I found Spinoza through my teacher in 1970 and I’ve continued studying his Ethics on a daily basis. Also listening to this audio of Spinoza’s complete Ethics is my form of music. I love listening to the clarity and the truth of his ideas. Spinoza’s works has changed my life and what I’ve learned I share with my students… for more info go to … wayofspinoza.com
The essence of Judaism is the mystery of God creating Devil/Demon, and how to rationalize God's action, yet preserving his 'omnipotence'. Most Jewish Rabbis thought the devil more powerful than God himself, Jesus and Mohammad, both Jews opposed this, yet none found the rationale, until Hegel and his theory of the 'unity of opposites' that paved the way for modern science of the dark matter and dark energy with opposite properties, particles and anti-particles, matter and anti-matter... and on to hot and cold, male and female, up and down etc., yet he had no idea of anti-gravity or negative energy, such was the power of his theory of dialectics, that produced the brilliant theory of Godel. Based on the 'liar paradox', which incorporates the opposite within the proposition, resulting in incompleteness and undecidable theorems. There is nothing undecidable or incomplete about reality, discovered ingeniously by Turing, who solved the halting problem of computers, using 'self-reference' of the Turing machine mapped onto itself. The Standard Model of particle physics explains 'fine tuning' of the parameter space, resulting in the recently developed theory of self-organizing property of matter, enabling Hegel's 'universal spirit' (modern terminology is Intelligent Designer) , eliminate randomness/chance to deliver life and evolution with probability one.
Naimul Haq :: Troubling commentary because Jewish thought has never considered "the devil" or "demons" to be more powerful than God himself. Even the idea of hell, as Christians and Mohammedans like to think about it, isn't a Jewish construct. While Christianity and Islam make much of a devil, Judaism clearly puts the responsibility for one's actions on the individual. In general, it is unlikely that you would hear a rabbi say "the devil made you do it". Instead, you would likely be asked to examine yourself, your motives and actions. More importantly, the idea that Jewish thought, is or ever has been monolithic in nature, is a mistake. But what cannot be disputed is the following: Jewish thought provided the western world with most of what is good in it.
By far and away, above and beyond, one of my favourite neo-rationalist philosophers. I'm wondering just how much influence Spinoza and Leibniz had upon one another's ideas and works. Their thoughts, reasonings and writings follow on from one another with frightening lucidity, and do by such honest and thoughtful reasonings, go along way towards establishing necessarily eternal conceptions of a rational reality in and of itself. Oh to be a fly on the wall for the meetings of those two towering geniuses. Its no wonder people such as Einstein held Spinozian philosophical "idealism" in such high regard. If any were capable of transcending the chasm between the rational and empirical sciences, it had to be the aforementioned: they are for me, that place between the rock(an eternally hard and difficult place if ever there was), and the non-space attributed to existence in the monadology of Leibniz's mathematics. Genius writ large on both accounts. Reason without passion is dead! Or should that be death? I'm pre-supposing to label that by which any other name would lend itself to the empirical world view subscribed to en -mass by the scientific dictates of the "god is dead generation".... you can keep your Nietzschean nihilism for the damned mad and gods in waiting; for Hume's Locke and Newton's empirical worldview observations - on a position of ultimate truth - it can only ever really lend itself, to that which is sensible and less than virtuously intellectual. Give me GOD, give me Spinoza.
I could listen to Durant all day. Is that him speaking? Probably not. I'd like to know. But it's Durant's words, and he's so brilliantly articulate, such a polymath, and often witty. If you listen closely, he's a master of irony too.
"It has been the one song of those who lust after absolute power that the affairs of state be conducted in absolute secrecy." Like now, secrecy is itself a secret to many, and ignorance and powerlessness go unperceived - it's quite magic, albeit sick magic.
This is truly one of my favorite lectures (with that of The Philosophy of Voltaire). Thank you for sharing these enlightening lectures. I was wondering which translation of The Ethics you would recommend? Merci d'avance.
Is it just me getting lucky or are there no ads on this video? Anyway.. thank you CZcams, thank you uploader, thank you Grover Gardner, thank you Will Durant and thank you Baruch Spinoza for making life perfect for 1:55:18 ☺🌟
I wonder if Will was aware of the Kazars, and their conversion to Judaism around 800AD? They make up the majority of Jews worldwide and had no blood connection to Israel.
Ironically everything I object to in the culture you refer to is also what I objected to in religion. It seems you strike it down in one form and it returns in another. Tbh, I would prefer the church at this point because at least with them you had forgiveness. That idea seems alien to the modern self righteous progressive who is blatantly racist and sexist and so on, but has somehow gaslit the world into thinking that the only way to be any of those things is to disagree with them. But on the other hand, it really just looks like the classic divide and rule/conquer.
If only we were truly organized enough to pull that off, there might be a smidgen of truth to your pitiful whining, but alas, it's not a conspiracy against your point of view by progressive ogres. Just the movement of attitudes and time, call it evolution, for lack of a more accurate description. Democracy works like that sometimes. Rather than accuse people who disagree with your worldview of being more racist than you may actually be, perhaps you should examine your own views, and ask yourself why other citizens might find your conduct less than pristine. Of course, you're innocent of all of these reckless accusations, but why are you acting like a defensive, guilty man, if your heart is really so pure. Freudians might call your response a projection, rather than the pleadings of an innocent, misunderstood truth teller. Methinks thou protests too much...
*Baruch Espinosa OverAll seems to have been discredited by atheists and other unknown philosophers in my opinion* 10:56 am Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Sunday, 3 October 2021 Common Era or CE formerly known as Ano Domini or AD
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The mind trying to understand the mind is a fruitless endeavor. To get to truth you have to go beyond the mind, which means the elimination of the ego.
There is an organizing principle at work in the cosmos. Basically, there are three options for describing the origins of the universe; 1, Something from nothing, in the beginning was nothing then, it exploded. 2, Perpetual motion, the universe always was but never runs down. 3, Intelligent design, there was a designer involved in the creation of the universe. Each of these is equally unlikely so, we can start from each of them and look for meaningful ways to prefer one over the other. Our only option is a subjective conclusion based on subjective experience and I defy anyone to prove anything regarding the origins of the universe (unfalsifiable proof). It seems to me that this interface that we call the material world is an expression of the information it is constructed from. We commonly use a two dimensional interface when we access a computer but I don't think that will last much longer, at some point three dimensional interfaces will be the norm. This information system has transcendent properties like wetness and rigidity and so, we get consciousness at the extreme end of this hierarchy. Consciousness self organizes from the relationships that exist in the lower levels of of a nested hierarchy of behaviors that are seeking value. All living systems seek value regardless of what the truth happens to be. If you think about this for a moment, you have to admit that this is very strange. Meaning is constructed from the operation of exchanging truth for value. Approximations are useful in getting us close enough to the truth to extract value from it but really, because of levels of description in this information system, we can never completely describe anything, we have to round it off at some point and it is this rounding off that completes the process. This reminds me of the endless digits of Pi. All material expressions are constructed from a network of associations and are only reducible to some degree of resolution. If we are talking about information, then it is only reducible to some approximate explanation. The idea of a quantum random walk in state space says that every sufficiently complex event is statistically impossible and even though the probability space is very large, it is navigated and expressed, as I understand it, in a tree like structure or a fractal structure. This is a computational expression of the material world that looks very much like a display on a monitor. The decision engine is generating value. There is a bifurcation of the fitness into different dimensions and like the human brain which is said to have at least eleven dimensions, the dimensions are not constrained by a physical geometry, they are computational. Another way we can look at this would be to say that every behavior we can measure is constrained by a network of associations just like the nodes on the internet and the conservation laws become approximately true because of levels of description. With a digital display having few pixels, symmetries are common but there is very little meaning because the image is very course grained. As we reiterate and begin breaking the symmetry of the individual pixels (one pixel becomes four, ad infinitum...) an image will begin to appear. Time is related to the process of reiteration and truth is related to the symmetry, with meaning being related to the image created. We do not know where the symmetry or the reiterations come from but the image is emergent.
Stipulating that existence exists (otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion), we humans have discovered constants (pi is one) that cannot actually be quantified (because of the reduction to infinity or absurdity inherent in both math and words, i.e. logos) but that are inseparable from existence. Constants are good analogies for Spinoza's thought and extension (Substance) without which existence could not exist. Your understanding of 'true enough' is quite profound. As imperfect beings within the totality of existence, we are unable to express things perfectly, but our understanding is 'true enough' for us to 'know' 'truth' when we see it (evolution, architecture, music, emotions, nuclear bombs, etc.). I prefer to clarify Spinoza's terminology (although I think this is what he actually means) by saying that 'God or nature' is not the monad (totality), but the 'nature of nature', i.e. Substance, with its two attributes thought and extension, while the monad is Substance and Modes, the eternally changing totality. Substance is very much like the constants in nature that we have discovered: the 'nature of nature', or God, to use a loaded word to be sure, but a word as good as any other. All other concepts of 'God' (Father, Creator, Judge, Jealous Inflictor of Pain and Punishment) are false and lead only to errors. Luckily, we are still evolving. And when our species dies out (and it will), there will be others that might do a better job than we did.
Have you even read the Ethics. Mind and body are not necessary clear and distinct substances as much as they attributes of one of the same, extension and thought are attributes of the same, thus allowing for a science of psychology that doesnt diameteically oppose the incorporeal and corporeal. What you say is pretty much what Terence McKenna says but your version is more degraded and neurotic. Get yourself some mushrooms m8.
@@lukajung9051 The funny thing is, we are saying exactly the same thing. Read it again. For you to suggest that I am neurotic reflects your projection right back at you. Perhaps you could use the mushrooms, mate.
Spinoza represents the best of the Jewish people....Jewishness at its essence is about the human experience. Judaism, the religion is a byproduct of Jewishness, The Jewish People. Einstein recognized this.
Max you may be trying to be funny but the fact is a slave or a prisoner would understand spinoza quicker than a person who thinks we have absolute free will.
#youtubepremium #ic3 #googlecareers #youtubecreators this isn't really anything to do with Spinoza's philosophy. It just sounds smarter while doing the thing middle school kids learn not to do in an assigned plot summary. Some of this is blatantly wrong and live editing to cover it.
There is a mention around the 7:12 mark of an author called something along the lines of Hostai Crescas... I'm almost sure my spelling is wrong because whenever I type it into google, all I get is hotel recommendations. Does anyone know what correct spelling is? I'm going crazy trying to find more information on the guy. Thanks.
Spinoza was not an atheist. He believes in God. He was subtle in his admission of Him by definition (God-man) instead of by identification (Jesus: God on earth). My personal take on philosophy is that it's a wonderful means to hone our mind, but never to take it seriously as an ultimate guide to the civilization of man. DID ALL THESE PHILOSOPHIES EVER REALY IMPROVE HUMAN CONDITION?
The look at the juxtaposition of the butchery of medival christendom vs the empirical and rational ideals of the enlightenment and you might think otherwise
You don't understand Spinoza at all. He used the word 'god', but the meaning of the word for him was 'nature' or 'universe'. His pantheism was in no way similar to the personal god of the Abrahamic religions ... hence why he was ex-communicated.
@@canwelook I said he was not an "atheist". But neither did I say he believes in the Judeo-Christian God. He was a product of the enlightenment: most of them are either atheists or deists (like most of the founding fathers of America).
@whosays Spiniza's pantheism/deism IS atheism. His 'god' is NOT a personal god. It is merely another word for the totality of nature, or if you like, the universe. Nature is totally indifferent to the wishes or outcomes of you or I, or to anything else. It has no plan, no intent. An atheist by any other name is still an atheist.
Wonderful reading, but I thought magical practices were forbidden the Jewish people. The anathema against Spinoza (beginning at 15:07 in this reading) is definitely nothing but a literal curse.
Hold it he starts off about the Jews how they were so hard done by then goes on to say how rich they were? If they were hard done by they wouldn't be rich ?
You're conflating material wealth with social and cultural capital. What use is material wealth if everywhere you go, by virtue of your faith, you are under suspicion and nearly every 25 years the government of which you live beneath decides to sanction a Pogrom, a mass-exile, or simply through force confiscates your wealth?
God of Mandukya Upanishads is the god of Spinoza. Who is also the god of Einstein. God that Dawkins had no problem with. For those who wish to look into it ,Joseph Campbell on Brahman and swami sarvapriyananda on Mandukya Upanishads is the best bet. I learnt,painfully,most Hindus have no true picture of the highest teachings and are lost in rituals etc. Vedantic society of ramakrishna mission is the best explanation. Schopenhauer had observed that this teaching will overtake the west in the same manner that Greek ideas did Look into it.
@@markwilde5683 thanks. I did. So many wants to say the same thing but the amazing amount invested ( prestige wise) in materialistic explanation prevents going beyond the brain. Once it became accepted that civilisation means materialistic progress it inevitably leads to superiority complex and the bigotry,racism etc follows naturally maybe those Hindus are right. This is karma bhumi. We are here to work out our spiritual development. Step by step Anyway have a good life. Hurt no one. All is Brahman. You are god. Be happy. Go jolly
Not all religions are logical but, and I understand immediately that you're not well enough acquainted with the Bible, except the same alleged valid criticisms about it, Christianity is logical. Of course you might say that it isn't when you have a surface or even slightly more penetrating understanding of it, but upon the study of apologetics and a good understanding of Greek and Hebrew coupled with a studied perspective of the Bible allows you to realize that Chrslistianity is anything but absurd. I'm also under the impression that you don't exactly understand Spinoza's writing. He wasn't saying what you say he was saying.
Durant's incredibly myopic view and ill-informed of the Jewish diaspora ignores many facts. The Jews after the two viscous encounters with Rome, the 66-70 AD First Judeo-Roman War, followed by the 132-136 AD, Second Judeo-Roman War, were exiled by the Romans in some numbers, but MOST allowed to stay, and their desendents are still there, called the Palestinians. True, the destruction of the Second Temple in the First Judeo-Roman War, and of Jerusalem itself after the Second Judeo-Roman War (also called the Bar Kokhba revolt), left the Jewish population banned from entering the city and not settling within 10 miles of the city's outskirts, with the city destroyed and rebuilt as a Roman city called Aelia Capitolina (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aelia_Capitolina). The present day Jerusalem therefore reflects little of what the city was as Jesus would have known, not least because on this Roman Jerusalem, i.e. Aelia Capitolina, the Byzantines, the Arabs and Turks,i.e. Umayyads, Abbasids, Fatimids, Ayyubids, Mamluks and finally the Ottomans, each left their mark. The above mentioned ban on Jews the lasted nearly 600 years, meaning throughout the Christian Byzantine period. Only in 638 AD, after the Arab-Muslim conquest of the city were the Jews allowed to enter, live and worship in Jerusalem. For the rest of the period till the 20th century it had a mixed Muslim, Jewish and Christian population, and until as late as the 17th-18th centuries the Jews were in a slight majority. This is not surprising since most of the Palestinans were Jews and ARE direct descendents of Biblical Jews! It would be little known to people, and Durant certainly had no clue, that Islam saved Judaism & Jews, as this Jewish scholar explains: *HOW ISLAM SAVED THE JEWS -David Wasserstein* kavvanah.blog/2012/06/04/how-islam-saved-the-jews-david-wasserstein/ .. and this too is interesting: *So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews* ? The JC Essay May 24, 2012 15:56 www.thejc.com/comment/opinion/so-what-did-the-muslims-do-for-the-jews-1.33597 *Influence of Arabic and Islamic Philosophy on Judaic Thought* First published Mon Dec 10, 2007; substantive revision Fri May 6, 2016 plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-judaic/ Moreover, during the intellectual flowering of the Islamic Middle East, Muslims, Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians all worked together to form this 'Golden Age', otherwise it would not have existed! And *the legacy of Islamic thought in Maimonides lives on in Spinoza* ! Durant may have been erudite, but equally he was ignorant of much of Middle Eastern history!
It is hard, he did his best to explain "everything". My favorite little nugget is that according to Spinoza Substance has an infinite amount of attributes we only can perceive two, thought and extension (physical world). Lets assume that these other attributes that we can not perceive are other dimensions that have other physical laws. Spinoza claims that if we can learn everything about the two attributes that we can perceive, we can figure out the other attributes, that sounds fun.
13:47 Excommunication
35:45 The treatise on religion and the state
42:28 The improvement of the intellect
49:15 The ethics
53:07 Nature and God
thank you!
First read Durant in paperback at 16 in 1967. Lots of memories here.
Thank you for the time points! It s helpful!
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I chanced upon the works of Spinoza in a library when I was in my mid-twenties (many decades ago now). I recall thinking to myself, "this is it, this is what I've been searching for." My admiration has only grown over the years. I made a pilgrimage, of sorts, to The Hague in the mid-1980s to see Spinoza's statue --- the one Dr. Durant refers to at the end of this presentation. I believe that Spinoza came the closest to truth as anyone who's ever lived. His work is a coherent account of the universe and man's place within it; a system of thought based on reason, logic and, yes, plain common sense, without recourse to superstition, ancient myths and "holy" books. Not only was he a brilliant philosopher, he was, by all accounts, an exemplary human being. Ah, that there were more men like Spinoza walking this troubled orb.
Philosophy is a very difficult subject. It takes a lot of time and deep thinking to comprehend its ideas. Your video in some way help. ⛷⛷🪱🪱⛵⛵🤑🤑
Accidentally? You mistake your determinism for free will sir 😊
Yes. A proper window into ancient interpretation of eastern philosophy.
I had the exact same experience, good sir. Cheers
He is certainly an inspiration although Jesus is certianly the closest and absolute truth
This is might be my favorite Durant chapter about a single thinker. The very last sentence might be one of the most beautiful things a man could have ever said about another man. I wish I could describe it in a way that doesn't devolve into clichés, but it really is incredible the impact a life devoted to great thought can have.
Anything, in my experience by Will Durant, are so clear and concise, a joy to read or listen. Once again thank goodness for CZcams. Always makes my day.
Ok, except for the irritating regular mis-pronunciation of "im-pious".
I couldn't agree more, Sir.😊😊
Such a beautiful and erudite presentation of Spinoza's ideas. Gratitude to those who produced this. ❤
CZcams comments never fail to disappoint me. Half the commenters, especially those hung up on the history of Judaism in the first *two* minutes, I accuse outright of not listening for more than *four* minutes themselves - I found the history spelled out in the beginning provided an important frame of reference for introducing the hero of this lecture.
Spinoza is a wealth of understanding. I suspect it would take a lifetime to develop an adequate understanding of the Ethics, but the most rewarding sensations I have ever felt were earned only after extreme effort, so maybe that would be a life well spent.
A heartfelt "thank you" to our humble uploader, and sheer graditute for Will Durant, who wrote the content being narrated.
He also wrote more forward writings, such as the emendation of the intellect and a short treatise on god, man and his wellbeing. Alot of people assume thinkers impenetrable. Instead of acquiring some grace and perspicasity into a thinker (also, a writers) work. Read around abit. Start from somewhere. Use your whole mind, you can do it. There's a whole world of ideas out there for you.
The cursory examination of anything and everything exacted by idiots, feed into the cauldron of the demise of mind in the destruction of the human race. Fuck them and the epistemological horse they rode in on.
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When you "hang up" on Jewish civilization long enough (at least until you wheeze), you'll understand why Durant constructs his essay as he does. The Amsterdam colony was very mercantile but intellectual small-fry, shell-shocked refugees from the HRE (incl Habsburg Spain). The 16 year old genius should have grabbed at the deal. He stomped on the Stoic level of highest Jewish scholarship (& couldn't gotten very far into it by 16), and pranced out into the contemporary global society, cohabiting and comprising with it. Epicthetus and M.A. would have bellowed with laughter at his self-crucifixion, while charmed by some of his poetry. He would have fared much better if he had been raised in Istanbul.
Agreed. I read platos Phaedo 7 times and only in the seventh reading did the lights go on. Wow the ah ha moment was well worth the effort.
Dear sir thank you for your efforts and patience in introducing one of the giants of philosophy and ethics to us and to me . Your well wisher
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I was very impressed, in my youth, by the eloquence of this chapter, but today, 40 years later, I also see this as masterful, humorous and honest, having read quite a few summaries of Spinoza's life, all mostly negative (sadly). Thank you for the memories.
Will and Ariel Durant were and are a Treasure, forever to be probed for gems of intellect, to ponder and benefit from. God Bless them...
Thank you Rocky C! Will Durant is truly excellent breakfast listening. A most pleasurable way to start the day.
Thank you for this wonderful and contextualised history of Spinoza's life and work.
My Portuguese mothers side loves this mans ethics.👍 🍻 cheers.
Makes me want too aspire. Will & Ariel Durant, are brilliant historians
go for it! The world needs you.
Sponiza is someone who I've been largely unfamiliar with, although I did know that his influence was monumental. But after knowing his life story, I think he more than even the most profound thinkers represent that reason doesn't fear investigation but embraces it.
Reason in geometrical form, which (IMHO) ends in a blind alley of unrelatablility. A broad generalization but one of my own big take aways of Spinoza's work. Oh, and he sounds a little authoritarian at times when we get past the evils church versus one.
Thumbs up for the fantastic narration.
Grover Gardner's the man
Thumbs down for miserably repeating the erroneous pronunciation of "IM-pee-yus" instead of "im--PIOUS"
A man that was able to travel between religions is a international mind,he is not jewish or anything else,He is a man,
an intelectual,someone who takes the time to create a theory and he hands his thoughts to us and we inherit his way of
thinking and if we agree with it or not,I am sure that we can not dismiss his entire reasoning,but nevertheless we remain thankful for he advocated for freedom of expression and fought those that try to restrain him,so there you have a great man,so I thank Will Durant for his presentation and Spinoza as he Existed and still is among us,if not so what are doing acknowledging his existence.Bear in mind he died young and was not able to finish his work .such is our loss.
Laura Astudillo fuck off would ya?
sounds like a jew
Laura great points. I'd like to view spinoza as one who uncovered the truth rather than one who created a theory.
Spinoza is very Jewish. He represents the best of the Jewish people....Jewishness at its essence is about the human experience. Judaism, the religion is a by product of Jewishness, The Jewish People. Einstein recognized this.
@@EinsteinKnowedIt I get that sense from this presentation. And to be fair, a lot of his core ideas seem to be way way way older, it's just that he reintroduced and reformed them in a time and place was entirely alien and tyrannical in another mode of thinking.
I've noticed, by looking at the comments on these videos and using Google Trends, that Durant is very popular in the Islamic world. I'm from America, Will's homeland, but that isn't where he is most well-known nowadays. Apparently Iran is where he is most popular, followed by Morocco, Pakistan, Egypt, and Iraq. I don't know why he is searched so much more in these places, maybe someone from the Islamic world can inform me. But it warms my heart that despite all our differences, we can come together and bond over this great man's writing and philosophy.
Superbe ! Especially he looks like is teaching in a sweet way! The best speaker forever ! He made the philosophy very understanding and interesting ! Bravo ☺️🌸🍀👏👏👏
I guess commercials/ads were sooner or later inevitable? but they really do take away from the experience of listening to such a masterpiece…
I read the Durant series as a teen--wonderful to revisit them again in this .manner. Spinoza did indeed come from a tradition and culture which was similar to the west today, except he was reacting against a personal religious stronghold, whereas today it is more likely to be an institutional secularism that one must escape to be a freethinker.
Gatinha Bella that’s an interesting perspective though many believe the hostage taking of religious fundamentalism (among all religions) is still the greatest tyranny over the human mind.
@@noaheinstein2369 I think your point is the reason for Gatinha Bellas perspective for where in the west is this "religious fundamentalism" that is such a tyrant over the mind of Man but yet we do live in a world that all most demands that it's subjects think correctly and behave in accordance, this way of life kills free thinking just as the Theologians have done in days gone by. side note : Man wills to rule Man and will do so by all and any means.
Moortje Arkhorn I totally agree with much in your comment, but respectfully disagree in some ways. Yes there is some “mob rule” from the far left fringe and it must be challenged. But the overwhelming evidence indicates this same mob rule is much more abundant on the right and even from the middle. It’s overwhelming to live in the midst of Christian hegemony. There’s no other correct name for it than Christian hegemony. It controls the otherwise free minds of most Americans presently. It carries its own indoctrination of children and continues to reinforce this brainwashing so that science has an uphill climb to even penetrate the brain, much less offer logical thinking as a more valid approach to issues before us. This has made such laws as physics and gravity all but useless since most passionate Christians and Muslims ultimately reject these in favor of their own emotional comfort. Here I speak of scientific discoveries as evolution, or even the origin of the universe, and even minimal enlightenment regarding race, or homosexuality, or the role of women in family and culture.
Thank you for that. It bolsters me against the ignorant hordes that drag the heart and mind down into the abyss of dark ignorance.
Nothing secular about today.
Check out the Myth of Disenchantment by Jason Storm
wonderful people indeed.persecuted unjustly from the dawn of time.His parenta were portuguese which makes me proud.
Always persecuted with no fault of their own. Amazing. Rather, cursed by God for their corruption and spreading evil everywhere
So I read that Spinoza is the preferred Philosopher of Science, probably, as said at the beginning, because his foundations were in the kind of function-to-form that was interpreted as spiritual embodiment, actually a Math-mechanism Principle that fits universal mind in the universal body of Physics.
So how perceived functionalisms are manifested in literature has natural dualistic mind-body alternatives according to the "nomenclatures" of the literary medium.., Philosophy.
Substantiation, function cause-effect of time duration timing, modulated substance In-form-ation. It's a principle and theme.
Well worth hearing Will Durant on Spinoza.
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Will Durant is an increadably fun passtime. Stimulating yet not taxing.
I TOO LOVE HIM
Will Durant is a better philosopher writing history than most philosophers are writing philosophy.
I also find Durant to be a better historian writing philosophy than most historians are writing history. 🤓😉
If he did how could he say Christopher Columbus discovered America? America has always been there. And people already lived there. We have to be very careful at what we take in.
@@truthsetsyoufree6581 Of course Columbus discovered America. No one understood the true contours of the world before he made his epic journey. The American Indians didn’t know another continent existed, neither did the Vikings who visited Newfoundland; nor did the Chinese, Africans, Persians, or anyone else, it was Columbus that brought that reality to humanity. That’s what it means to say he discovered America. It changed everything.
@@graterdeddly9527 Let's be honest my friend.
@@graterdeddly9527 They did what they had to do we do not have to pretend it is right nor it's the norm. You know this very well. Hypocrisy cannot get you to the truth. We are in deep troubles because we have been following the lowest minds of all time.
I feel in love with philosophy_thanks to this Narator!!
amazing thank you for uploading this
Lovely voice and narrative....
THANKS A LOT @Rocky C for sharing this master class with the world 😄😄😄
I found Spinoza through my teacher in 1970 and I’ve continued studying his Ethics on a daily basis. Also listening to this audio of Spinoza’s complete Ethics is my form of music. I love listening to the clarity and the truth of his ideas. Spinoza’s works has changed my life and what I’ve learned I share with my students… for more info go to … wayofspinoza.com
Surprisingly modern, scientific and contributes to an understanding and appreciation of what Hegel declared 'universal spirit'.
The essence of Judaism is the mystery of God creating Devil/Demon, and how to rationalize God's action, yet preserving his 'omnipotence'. Most Jewish Rabbis thought the devil more powerful than God himself, Jesus and Mohammad, both Jews opposed this, yet none found the rationale, until Hegel and his theory of the 'unity of opposites' that paved the way for modern science of the dark matter and dark energy with opposite properties, particles and anti-particles, matter and anti-matter... and on to hot and cold, male and female, up and down etc., yet he had no idea of anti-gravity or negative energy, such was the power of his theory of dialectics, that produced the brilliant theory of Godel.
Based on the 'liar paradox', which incorporates the opposite within the proposition, resulting in incompleteness and undecidable theorems.
There is nothing undecidable or incomplete about reality, discovered ingeniously by Turing, who solved the halting problem of computers, using 'self-reference' of the Turing machine mapped onto itself.
The Standard Model of particle physics explains 'fine tuning' of the parameter space, resulting in the recently developed theory of self-organizing property of matter, enabling Hegel's 'universal spirit' (modern terminology is Intelligent Designer) , eliminate randomness/chance to deliver life and evolution with probability one.
Naimul Haq :: Troubling commentary because Jewish thought has never considered "the devil" or "demons" to be more powerful than God himself. Even the idea of hell, as Christians and Mohammedans like to think about it, isn't a Jewish construct. While Christianity and Islam make much of a devil, Judaism clearly puts the responsibility for one's actions on the individual. In general, it is unlikely that you would hear a rabbi say "the devil made you do it". Instead, you would likely be asked to examine yourself, your motives and actions. More importantly, the idea that Jewish thought, is or ever has been monolithic in nature, is a mistake. But what cannot be disputed is the following: Jewish thought provided the western world with most of what is good in it.
Ethics begins ca. 49:00
Thnks
Nice one Frank
Excellent. Thank you.
By far and away, above and beyond, one of my favourite neo-rationalist philosophers. I'm wondering just how much influence Spinoza and Leibniz had upon one another's ideas and works. Their thoughts, reasonings and writings follow on from one another with frightening lucidity, and do by such honest and thoughtful reasonings, go along way towards establishing necessarily eternal conceptions of a rational reality in and of itself. Oh to be a fly on the wall for the meetings of those two towering geniuses. Its no wonder people such as Einstein held Spinozian philosophical "idealism" in such high regard. If any were capable of transcending the chasm between the rational and empirical sciences, it had to be the aforementioned: they are for me, that place between the rock(an eternally hard and difficult place if ever there was), and the non-space attributed to existence in the monadology of Leibniz's mathematics. Genius writ large on both accounts. Reason without passion is dead! Or should that be death? I'm pre-supposing to label that by which any other name would lend itself to the empirical world view subscribed to en -mass by the scientific dictates of the "god is dead generation".... you can keep your Nietzschean nihilism for the damned mad and gods in waiting; for Hume's Locke and Newton's empirical worldview observations - on a position of ultimate truth - it can only ever really lend itself, to that which is sensible and less than virtuously intellectual. Give me GOD, give me Spinoza.
did u just say neo rationalist refering to spinoza
By God he meant nature, the laws of nature, and physics. All empirical things. All godless things
This is fantastic.. Will Durant is great to listen to .. so great
I could listen to Durant all day. Is that him speaking? Probably not. I'd like to know. But it's Durant's words, and he's so brilliantly articulate, such a polymath, and often witty. If you listen closely, he's a master of irony too.
Grover Gardner is the reader of these video.
Durant is the best
"It has been the one song of those who lust after absolute power that the affairs of state be conducted in absolute secrecy." Like now, secrecy is itself a secret to many, and ignorance and powerlessness go unperceived - it's quite magic, albeit sick magic.
not2tees yes dig what you
Nature goes on forever for everyone and everything to return as everyone and everything an infinite number of times through evolutionary processes. 🌌
This is truly one of my favorite lectures (with that of The Philosophy of Voltaire). Thank you for sharing these enlightening lectures. I was wondering which translation of The Ethics you would recommend? Merci d'avance.
The newest in English, and probably most faithful, is that of Edwin Curley. I'm not sure of translations into other languages, though.
George Eliot was first in English and will be published soon
@@bigdog2ks Curley's is undoubtedly definitive. Now available in paperback, at last.
Voltaire and Spinosa are my favorite modern philosophers
Truly exquisite 🥇
Is it just me getting lucky or are there no ads on this video? Anyway.. thank you CZcams, thank you uploader, thank you Grover Gardner, thank you Will Durant and thank you Baruch Spinoza for making life perfect for 1:55:18 ☺🌟
thank you for that feedback.
I wonder if Will was aware of the Kazars, and their conversion to Judaism around 800AD?
They make up the majority of Jews worldwide and had no blood connection to Israel.
Presently re-reading their Auto-Biography. Highly illuminating!
Thank you for this video
The man had integrity.
That excommunication and curse seemingly didn't work out so well, given Spinoza's popularity.
The Church: De-platforming before it was cool
Ironically everything I object to in the culture you refer to is also what I objected to in religion. It seems you strike it down in one form and it returns in another. Tbh, I would prefer the church at this point because at least with them you had forgiveness. That idea seems alien to the modern self righteous progressive who is blatantly racist and sexist and so on, but has somehow gaslit the world into thinking that the only way to be any of those things is to disagree with them. But on the other hand, it really just looks like the classic divide and rule/conquer.
If only we were truly organized enough to pull that off, there might be a smidgen of truth to your pitiful whining, but alas, it's not a conspiracy against your point of view by progressive ogres. Just the movement of attitudes and time, call it evolution, for lack of a more accurate description. Democracy works like that sometimes. Rather than accuse people who disagree with your worldview of being more racist than you may actually be, perhaps you should examine your own views, and ask yourself why other citizens might find your conduct less than pristine. Of course, you're innocent of all of these reckless accusations, but why are you acting like a defensive, guilty man, if your heart is really so pure. Freudians might call your response a projection, rather than the pleadings of an innocent, misunderstood truth teller. Methinks thou protests too much...
Exhaustive and deep thank you
You're very welcome
*Baruch Espinosa - 6:41 am Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Sunday, 3 October 2021 Common Era or CE formerly known as Ano Domini or AD*
*Baruch Espinosa OverAll seems to have been discredited by atheists and other unknown philosophers in my opinion* 10:56 am Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Sunday, 3 October 2021 Common Era or CE formerly known as Ano Domini or AD
Fortunately I taped these wonderful bios on Durant's books and bios..utube could decide to remove them
Good voice for narration ....... I downloaded this.....download speed is very slow....can you fix that ?
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When you wanna roast someone but you're in the 17th century 28:40 - 28:49
Thanks!
Wow, I just saw this now. Really appreciate the donation to the channel. Let me know if you want a free planksip® membership for 90 days. Would love to see you develop your love for Spinoza into an article or series on planksip.org. If you are interested please reach out to me on planksip.org/contact. My name is Daniel and I am the owner of planksip®.
The mind trying to understand the mind is a fruitless endeavor. To get to truth you have to go beyond the mind, which means the elimination of the ego.
you are not correct.
@@lordemed1 The I that says that is the ego.
this is the Buddhist school of thought I presume
Respect 👌
Baruch Spinoza: "...the theologians were everywhere lying in wait for me."
Better than the mafia.
The guide to perplex” the original “ was written in Arabic language
By Maimonides
Maimonides was El farabi Muslim philosopher student
28:06 Apparently CZcams didn't invent flame wars. The critique of his work here isn't very solid...but neither was Spinoza's rebuttal.
Great
Watched all of it 1:52:48
impressive.
There is an organizing principle at work in the cosmos. Basically, there are three options for describing the origins of the universe; 1, Something from nothing, in the beginning was nothing then, it exploded. 2, Perpetual motion, the universe always was but never runs down. 3, Intelligent design, there was a designer involved in the creation of the universe. Each of these is equally unlikely so, we can start from each of them and look for meaningful ways to prefer one over the other. Our only option is a subjective conclusion based on subjective experience and I defy anyone to prove anything regarding the origins of the universe (unfalsifiable proof). It seems to me that this interface that we call the material world is an expression of the information it is constructed from. We commonly use a two dimensional interface when we access a computer but I don't think that will last much longer, at some point three dimensional interfaces will be the norm. This information system has transcendent properties like wetness and rigidity and so, we get consciousness at the extreme end of this hierarchy. Consciousness self organizes from the relationships that exist in the lower levels of of a nested hierarchy of behaviors that are seeking value. All living systems seek value regardless of what the truth happens to be. If you think about this for a moment, you have to admit that this is very strange. Meaning is constructed from the operation of exchanging truth for value. Approximations are useful in getting us close enough to the truth to extract value from it but really, because of levels of description in this information system, we can never completely describe anything, we have to round it off at some point and it is this rounding off that completes the process. This reminds me of the endless digits of Pi. All material expressions are constructed from a network of associations and are only reducible to some degree of resolution. If we are talking about information, then it is only reducible to some approximate explanation. The idea of a quantum random walk in state space says that every sufficiently complex event is statistically impossible and even though the probability space is very large, it is navigated and expressed, as I understand it, in a tree like structure or a fractal structure. This is a computational expression of the material world that looks very much like a display on a monitor. The decision engine is generating value. There is a bifurcation of the fitness into different dimensions and like the human brain which is said to have at least eleven dimensions, the dimensions are not constrained by a physical geometry, they are computational. Another way we can look at this would be to say that every behavior we can measure is constrained by a network of associations just like the nodes on the internet and the conservation laws become approximately true because of levels of description. With a digital display having few pixels, symmetries are common but there is very little meaning because the image is very course grained. As we reiterate and begin breaking the symmetry of the individual pixels (one pixel becomes four, ad infinitum...) an image will begin to appear. Time is related to the process of reiteration and truth is related to the symmetry, with meaning being related to the image created. We do not know where the symmetry or the reiterations come from but the image is emergent.
Stipulating that existence exists (otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion), we humans have discovered constants (pi is one) that cannot actually be quantified (because of the reduction to infinity or absurdity inherent in both math and words, i.e. logos) but that are inseparable from existence. Constants are good analogies for Spinoza's thought and extension (Substance) without which existence could not exist. Your understanding of 'true enough' is quite profound. As imperfect beings within the totality of existence, we are unable to express things perfectly, but our understanding is 'true enough' for us to 'know' 'truth' when we see it (evolution, architecture, music, emotions, nuclear bombs, etc.). I prefer to clarify Spinoza's terminology (although I think this is what he actually means) by saying that 'God or nature' is not the monad (totality), but the 'nature of nature', i.e. Substance, with its two attributes thought and extension, while the monad is Substance and Modes, the eternally changing totality. Substance is very much like the constants in nature that we have discovered: the 'nature of nature', or God, to use a loaded word to be sure, but a word as good as any other. All other concepts of 'God' (Father, Creator, Judge, Jealous Inflictor of Pain and Punishment) are false and lead only to errors. Luckily, we are still evolving. And when our species dies out (and it will), there will be others that might do a better job than we did.
Have you even read the Ethics. Mind and body are not necessary clear and distinct substances as much as they attributes of one of the same, extension and thought are attributes of the same, thus allowing for a science of psychology that doesnt diameteically oppose the incorporeal and corporeal.
What you say is pretty much what Terence McKenna says but your version is more degraded and neurotic. Get yourself some mushrooms m8.
@@lukajung9051 The funny thing is, we are saying exactly the same thing. Read it again. For you to suggest that I am neurotic reflects your projection right back at you. Perhaps you could use the mushrooms, mate.
@@palladin331 ;)
@@palladin331 to use the phrase of Wittgenstein, what you say is "true enough."
We are most our self when we are passionate. What if anger is someone passion.
In fact, there was no diaspora in 70AD. Some Jews did leave voluntarily, but most stayed and continued their life.
This is hard bro.
All with effort and pain. Everything beautiful is a struggle. The Ethics will lead you should you find yourself lost.
A computer-generated voice will always undermine the work of great minds. Unless it comes attached to the great mind of a computer.
Spinoza represents the best of the Jewish people....Jewishness at its essence is about the human experience. Judaism, the religion is a byproduct of Jewishness, The Jewish People. Einstein recognized this.
@49:14 the ethics
@1:05:09 Matter and Mind
Is that narrator Gorevr Granedr (scrambled) ? Nice, i hope this doesn't get pulled.
UrbaNSpiel Yes! It is. My fave.
SEE M. S. El Naschie's latest research on Spinoza and E-Infinity Theory
44:25 MIC DROP OF THE MILLENIA HELLO
ATOMS ARE ELECTRIC, AND THE MIND IS ELECTRIC
THE ELECTRIC PRECIPITATES OUT OF ZERO POINT QUANTA
THE ETHER IS COMING BACK INTO PLAY -PERHAPS IN NEUTRINOS
“Whistling in the dark” 19:38
It’s like saying you’ve gone nose blind. Better get some fabreeze.😂
Good video! 👍
Very interesting expose
This is black history
Max you may be trying to be funny but the fact is a slave or a prisoner would understand spinoza quicker than a person who thinks we have absolute free will.
This is human history- encompasses all of us.
The real starting point is, I am, therefore, I think... that...I AM!
It occurs to me that his praise of Spinoza's people would be deemed racist, were it not for the particular people of which Spinoza was a member.
Laureano Luna you misdunderstood entirely. Its not about jews or jewish at all. But you dont have to listen to the vid.
It was written in the 30'ties.
#youtubepremium #ic3 #googlecareers #youtubecreators this isn't really anything to do with Spinoza's philosophy. It just sounds smarter while doing the thing middle school kids learn not to do in an assigned plot summary. Some of this is blatantly wrong and live editing to cover it.
#un #italy
I love the contents but so much dislike the voice. It’s like that of accountant keeping record.
41:00 "wen all nonsense is discarded"
Bookmark 47:13
Freedom from Duality .. to live beyond "good and "evil" .. to eat of the fruit 8and becomes as gods* .. truly where a man is fully happy.
35:42 Treatise on Religion and the State
Free Speech 1:43:00
There is a mention around the 7:12 mark of an author called something along the lines of Hostai Crescas... I'm almost sure my spelling is wrong because whenever I type it into google, all I get is hotel recommendations. Does anyone know what correct spelling is? I'm going crazy trying to find more information on the guy. Thanks.
Thank you! and sorry for the intensity (the double post) but I had one of those episodes where curiosity just ravages you.
Mateo Pizarro
Seems akin to Daoïsm.
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The history of the Jews made me reconsider my Agnosticism
In the kabala God is both man and woman.
Spinoza was not an atheist. He believes in God. He was subtle in his admission of Him by definition (God-man) instead of by identification (Jesus: God on earth). My personal take on philosophy is that it's a wonderful means to hone our mind, but never to take it seriously as an ultimate guide to the civilization of man. DID ALL THESE PHILOSOPHIES EVER REALY IMPROVE HUMAN CONDITION?
in short, yes.
The look at the juxtaposition of the butchery of medival christendom vs the empirical and rational ideals of the enlightenment and you might think otherwise
You don't understand Spinoza at all.
He used the word 'god', but the meaning of the word for him was 'nature' or 'universe'.
His pantheism was in no way similar to the personal god of the Abrahamic religions ... hence why he was ex-communicated.
@@canwelook I said he was not an "atheist". But neither did I say he believes in the Judeo-Christian God. He was a product of the enlightenment: most of them are either atheists or deists (like most of the founding fathers of America).
@whosays Spiniza's pantheism/deism IS atheism. His 'god' is NOT a personal god. It is merely another word for the totality of nature, or if you like, the universe. Nature is totally indifferent to the wishes or outcomes of you or I, or to anything else. It has no plan, no intent.
An atheist by any other name is still an atheist.
Wonderful reading, but I thought magical practices were forbidden the Jewish people. The anathema against Spinoza (beginning at 15:07 in this reading) is definitely nothing but a literal curse.
Hold it he starts off about the Jews how they were so hard done by then goes on to say how rich they were? If they were hard done by they wouldn't be rich ?
You're conflating material wealth with social and cultural capital. What use is material wealth if everywhere you go, by virtue of your faith, you are under suspicion and nearly every 25 years the government of which you live beneath decides to sanction a Pogrom, a mass-exile, or simply through force confiscates your wealth?
The commentator is very funny.
The narrative must translate non English terminology or names of book into English. He used many such things without translating them
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God of Mandukya Upanishads is the god of Spinoza. Who is also the god of Einstein. God that Dawkins had no problem with. For those who wish to look into it ,Joseph Campbell on Brahman and swami sarvapriyananda on Mandukya Upanishads is the best bet. I learnt,painfully,most Hindus have no true picture of the highest teachings and are lost in rituals etc. Vedantic society of ramakrishna mission is the best explanation. Schopenhauer had observed that this teaching will overtake the west in the same manner that Greek ideas did Look into it.
Well said, you might like to check out the philosophy of Bernardo Kastrup
@@markwilde5683 thanks. Peace be with you.
@@billyranger1236 peace be with you too 🌿
@@markwilde5683 thanks. I did. So many wants to say the same thing but the amazing amount invested ( prestige wise) in materialistic explanation prevents going beyond the brain. Once it became accepted that civilisation means materialistic progress it inevitably leads to superiority complex and the bigotry,racism etc follows naturally maybe those Hindus are right. This is karma bhumi. We are here to work out our spiritual development. Step by step Anyway have a good life. Hurt no one. All is Brahman. You are god. Be happy. Go jolly
Many different paths to the mountain top, oui?
Secret Deplomacy 1:47:00
No wonder the church threw out Spinoza. He is too logical and religion demands belief in the absurd.
You misunderstood Spinoza..ehy?..have you read anything about or by spinoza ah I mean read it as you would study for degree??? Guess not
Spinoza went beyond religion, to the essence of humanness
He just did not experience what Abraham did.. nor what I did
Hey chungus why don’t ya examine your statements
Not all religions are logical but, and I understand immediately that you're not well enough acquainted with the Bible, except the same alleged valid criticisms about it, Christianity is logical. Of course you might say that it isn't when you have a surface or even slightly more penetrating understanding of it, but upon the study of apologetics and a good understanding of Greek and Hebrew coupled with a studied perspective of the Bible allows you to realize that Chrslistianity is anything but absurd. I'm also under the impression that you don't exactly understand Spinoza's writing. He wasn't saying what you say he was saying.
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Albert Einstein bring me here
Durant's incredibly myopic view and ill-informed of the Jewish diaspora ignores many facts. The Jews after the two viscous encounters with Rome, the 66-70 AD First Judeo-Roman War, followed by the 132-136 AD, Second Judeo-Roman War, were exiled by the Romans in some numbers, but MOST allowed to stay, and their desendents are still there, called the Palestinians.
True, the destruction of the Second Temple in the First Judeo-Roman War, and of Jerusalem itself after the Second Judeo-Roman War (also called the Bar Kokhba revolt), left the Jewish population banned from entering the city and not settling within 10 miles of the city's outskirts, with the city destroyed and rebuilt as a Roman city called Aelia Capitolina (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aelia_Capitolina).
The present day Jerusalem therefore reflects little of what the city was as Jesus would have known, not least because on this Roman Jerusalem, i.e. Aelia Capitolina, the Byzantines, the Arabs and Turks,i.e. Umayyads, Abbasids, Fatimids, Ayyubids, Mamluks and finally the Ottomans, each left their mark.
The above mentioned ban on Jews the lasted nearly 600 years, meaning throughout the Christian Byzantine period. Only in 638 AD, after the Arab-Muslim conquest of the city were the Jews allowed to enter, live and worship in Jerusalem. For the rest of the period till the 20th century it had a mixed Muslim, Jewish and Christian population, and until as late as the 17th-18th centuries the Jews were in a slight majority. This is not surprising since most of the Palestinans were Jews and ARE direct descendents of Biblical Jews!
It would be little known to people, and Durant certainly had no clue, that Islam saved Judaism & Jews, as this Jewish scholar explains:
*HOW ISLAM SAVED THE JEWS -David Wasserstein*
kavvanah.blog/2012/06/04/how-islam-saved-the-jews-david-wasserstein/
.. and this too is interesting:
*So, what did the Muslims do for the Jews* ?
The JC Essay
May 24, 2012 15:56
www.thejc.com/comment/opinion/so-what-did-the-muslims-do-for-the-jews-1.33597
*Influence of Arabic and Islamic Philosophy on Judaic Thought*
First published Mon Dec 10, 2007; substantive revision Fri May 6, 2016
plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-judaic/
Moreover, during the intellectual flowering of the Islamic Middle East, Muslims, Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians all worked together to form this 'Golden Age', otherwise it would not have existed!
And *the legacy of Islamic thought in Maimonides lives on in Spinoza* !
Durant may have been erudite, but equally he was ignorant of much of Middle Eastern history!
When they left they were brown, when they came back they were white......
Must have been evolution, I jest.
Oh dear, Spinoza seems to have had an opinion on everything. I must confess i cant follow it all.
It is hard, he did his best to explain "everything". My favorite little nugget is that according to Spinoza Substance has an infinite amount of attributes we only can perceive two, thought and extension (physical world). Lets assume that these other attributes that we can not perceive are other dimensions that have other physical laws. Spinoza claims that if we can learn everything about the two attributes that we can perceive, we can figure out the other attributes, that sounds fun.
Belief in freewill is delusional, there's a way to improve one's understanding. To understand Spinoza, the mind must
If you're alover of philosophy.you should then consider the works by EMANUEL KANT
Read Emanuel Kant