Dishonored: Why the Outsider punished the Empress
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There's something about Jessamine Kaldwin. Not only did the Outsider actively intervene to deprive her of peace in death, but his mark is on 1) her sister, 2) her killer, 3) her lover, and 4) her daughter. That's a lot of supernatural activity around one person, even if she is an empress.
The Outsider seems to bestow his power to anyone who has been well....dishonored. The thing that all those people share in common is that at some point or another they were either dealt a bad or unfair hand, or endured immense hardship, and these issues were often caused by corrupt people in nobility or high status.
We may have only known Jessamine for a short time but if Delilah's story of being betrayed by her is true and not just a ruse to get us to be sympathetic, then perhaps it shows that the late Empress may not have been the best person. Yeah I know she was a kid at the time, but there's nothing in the game as far as I know that indicates she regretted what she did to Delilah later in life. Not to mention the corruption that festered within Dunwell under her rulership.
So basically what I'm saying is that, being a possibly corrupt high class political figure with skeletons in your closet in a world where people who are commonly the victims of people like you are granted godlike powers, tend to be a way to get yourself put in an early grave.
Also for the heart thing. I think the Outsider just has a thing for fates worse than death. Alot of the nonlethal outcomes of certain missions tend to have bittersweet if not straight up bad endings for the people involved. I think it's more or less the same here.
@@utopian4769 So the outsider gives his mark to.. outsiders
@@utopian4769 Tbh I never got the impression that Jessamine even KNEW what had happened to Delilah when they were children. From her perspective she stopped coming over. During their entire friendship, she was never aware of the class divide between them. She was a brat that grew up and raised her daughter with love, and she was also a passive ruler. All of these apply.
@@LucidLivingYT that would actually fit. kindred spirits, people who have no one else to turn to, are the people he finds most interesting. the ones who society rejects and hunts.
@@ginaran8921well yes as you can even see people in poverty (in books: one poor single mother) be bestowed gifts simply for being unfortunate aswell as outcasted. The thing is while the power gives the weak agency in their lives, it also pushes them further from civil society, like the more you rely on the void the closer you grow to it. In the sense you'll disappear and be unable to rejoin the public eye or atleast public society even moreso than you were before. Sure Corvo managed to stay with Emily, but the entire time due to his past use of the void, people were plotting against him, scared of him. Which eventually brought him back to the darkness (or canonically sends his daughter into it, Inwhich case you could simply say his curse is being passed down to her metaphorically and literally in a very "sins of the father" kind of ideology) and both had to spend time in the dark even before then both in regards to their relationship, corvos powers, aswell as their nightly training escapades (and corvo also did vigilante stuff)
and ofc the Cult which is extremelyyyyyy isolated from any civil or modern society. And hide away both all information about them aswell as their physical selves and position in society.
Holy SHIT it just occurred to me that the Outsider probably never even actually let Jessamine "die" in the first place. The heart still beats. Obviously there's something supernatural at hand but besides that, the heart still beats. The machinery is keeping her alive.
Then she was released at dishonored 2 granting her peace
I think it was revealed in Dishonored 2 that it was just her soul
Hell, technically, he even helped by giving Daud his mark
@@williambobson3369 he didn't tell Daud what to do though, Daud chose to kill the empress
@@LordOfAllJays I think he did actually i mean in theory we can see that in the void there is always a whale by any means i think the outsider as a child loved whales alot so in this case after the oil industry started killing them he had some kind of anger and we all know he needs to mark somone in order to go in the real world in theory the outsider cannot leave the void if he has no marks outside of it so i think he ordered Daud to sabotage the whole industry just by killing the one in charge!
I don't see it as punishment so much as a twisted and mean spirited jest, which is perfectly in character for the outsider. He hates his eternal existence and is deeply bored with the repeating nature of man. Which is why those whom could choose to do different things, even if those things work against his other interests, are of such fascination to him. He didn't ask to be a god and he most definitely is going very mad with his immortal imprisonment. He does seem to favor those who choose to make the world better but is so bored he will simply provide color commentary most times instead of acting. Which brings us to the heart. It is hard to say how far ranging his insight is but even if it had a more noble purpose built in the heart was definitely to torment corvo initially. The power it possesses could have been given through a less gruesome method. But instead the lore implies the outsider made sure this object would be made. And made sure it would be something that would enrage the already emotionally ravaged corvo.
Really makes you look at it differently when you realize that Corvo was carrying around his lover's STILL BEATING heart. It makes him going through a murderous rage more believable from a story perspective and makes the option of nonviolence all the more impactful.
I believe he did this he saw how the world was supposed to become an alternate he decided that humans needed a push in a direction that he wanted their becoming stagnant they were becoming so obsessed with machinery and technology he thought he could return them to a section where it was literally more peaceful but then when he realized humans will always be the same he decided to help a few to try and alter the course to stave off the inevitable
@stolentheif8426 I really like the duality of the heart, for one version of Corvo it could be a source of rage, but for another a source of comfort.
@@stolentheif8426the heart does allow her to speak to him, and she seems sentient throughout, if even omniscient. It depends on how you play your corvo, but as the guy above said having your lover gently speaking to you from beyond the grave could be greatly comforting
that's really clever, I didn't think about it like that
When the last leviathan is gone, darkness will fall
I can sense a great age ending
@@yourlocalfemboywastaken can be both literal and metaphorical. the industry is consuming whales faster than they are born. they will eventually run out of whale oil, just like how at the rate we're going, some places may run out of viable drinking water, farmland, or fossil fuels. not only will running out of whale oil cause technological and economic collapse for the world of dishonered, but untold societal and personal turmoils as well. The first games intro dialogue reads "half the city's dead of plague... the remaining half is fighting over what's left." The great age Jessamine speaks of could also simply be the close-knit lifestyles of pre-industrialization being traded for more the impersonal, sanitized lives we lead in an age of distractions and abundant information. As the world moves more towards technology and the Overseer's power and influence doesn't seem to be waning, it could also be proposed that magic is dying in the world of Dishonered as well. The age of spirituality and mysticism, of man's ignorant yet magical relationship with nature, is also rapidly decaying. Now whether this age was great or not is up for debate, but yeah. Thats my interpretation.
I wish dishonored 2 used this plot point.
Whales are creatures that are connected to the void, it would have been pretty cool if storyline of the second game was about whale extinction and preventing possible world end. IMO would have been a much better scenario then overcomplicated plot about a bleak villainy villain returning from the dead through an asspull
@@gamer1X12yo that was a beautiful summation
and people say i’m a disgrace to society
Wait...
That's *WHO'S* HEART?!?!
haven't played dishonored 2 yet huh?
@@Lucas-yu4bu Hell, haven't heard all of the Heart's dialogue yet?
@@StealthTheFoxz Havent gathered for whiskey and cigars yet?
I thought it was pretty obvious in the first Dishonored, but maybe that's just because I liked using it on random stuff to hear it's insight.
Towards the end of the game the heart reveals that it is the Empress, saying something along the like "this was once my office" whilst in the Empress' room in the palace.
The revelation only confirmed what I'd suspected, as the empress and heart share the same voice (I figured that could have been just the devs using one actress rather than two).
@@hidan407 Chances aren't pretty good.
Holy crap guy's, never use the mechanical heart of queen Elizabeth on a Mercedes Benz,
worst mistake of my life.
OHHHHHH LORD.
Wont ya buy me
a Mercedes BENZ
This reminds me of that one time i drank that green expired milk
I'm gonna hunt for British runes with the queens heart
Volkswagen ?
Another twisted way of looking at it, it can also be interpreted as granting an emotionally distraught corvo solace. In a sick and twisted way, he's carrying around a still-living piece of his lover, who should be dead forever. A fragment of the only remaining thing tying him to his previous life, which cannot be taken from him.
Given the Outsider's cryptic nature, it is an amazing move, as this little 'gift' to Corvo can be left entirely to Corvo's (and, by proxy, our) interpretation. Corvo can damn the outsider for giving him such a tormenting artifact, thank him for bestowing him a living portion of his lover, use it as a reminder and focal point of his rage upon his enemies, a trinket which holds all his sorrow, and more.
Okay, valid points, but on the other hand:
FROM THE MOMENT I UNDERSTOOD THE WEAKNESS OF MY FLESH, IT DISGUSTED ME
I craved for the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to be like the blessed machine. You're kind clings to its flesh like it wont fail you and decay. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, as the machine is Immortal. Even in death, I serve the -Outs- Omnissiah
PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH
Bloody tech-preists everywhere machine spirit this machine spirit that make sure to only use the sacred oil and not the oil the custodes use well I've got news for ya machine weirdo's my lazrifle has yet to explode on me and the power sword I stole off that chaos marine hasn't stopped working for months now and I ain't maintained them except once
I expected this
Your*
Looks like the Mechanicus don't have a spellchecker.
In some books theres also more about the cruelity of this society.
In one book it mentions some oversees are chosen by picking groups of children who "seem fit for the job", probably meaning kids who seem unstable or are born stronger than the others.
Said children are to be gathered and trained in the wild when the sun goes down.
Before the sunrise on the next morning followed by that same day, those who seem fit are to be taken as future oversees, going through more intensive training for the forward years until ready to be released as guard. Meanwhile the children who are decided unworthy, are to be executed before the sun comes up.
Again, its all children.
Similar process is also used to train the dogs some guards in the game use.
Also they do the whole “give a kid a puppy and then make them kill it after raising it” thing to diminish their empathy.
@@AlleluiaElizabeth That would explain why most guards are pieces of shit.
to be fair, it's their form of religion. The nobles would be stepping on eggs if they tried to change that. Just like our kings and queens, they tend to not meddle with religion.
The moment she knew the weakness of her flesh, it disgusted her
she craved the strength and certainty of steel, aspired the purity of the blessed machine
@@chonkyboi6752is that quotes from the heart
@@basidan4488 is from one of the trailers of Warhammer40k i believe
@@basidan4488 No, it's a quote from the Adeptus Mechanicus trailer for Warhammer 40k.
I actually think its a matter of torment more for Corvo and later Emily. They both have an intense connection to her and dont go through directly outsider related events, which can be looked at like punishment, like daud and billy. Daud is pushed by the message of the outsider to conflict with Delilah, and corvo who would reasonably seek out daud was given powers by the outsider(this is only really bad for daud and not corvo as he could or could not seek justice as he chooses). we could say billy suffered by being exhiled in the dlc, but more so is her eye and arm being taken once again, to be replaces with the void appendages, and one might think well it works just the same but better than regular limbs, but it is clear by her yelling that it was very painful.
The reason i say the heart is corvo and emily being punished is because it serves a genuine purpose, and is the only forced punishment the outsider could inflict on them. Daud and billy are inflicted punishment of a sort in another way, and they have the ability to do EXACTLY the same thing with their own body(dauds void gaze and billys void walk or whatever its called).
The difference being emily and corvo can basically choose all of the pain they go through technically and the others cannot. Daud is clealy compelled to go through his campaign. Billie cant even pretend to choose as her body is disfigured entirely by force.
Nice Vergil pfp, looks fresh king 👑
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 thank you
89moom
Can I get a summary of this💀
@@LordOfAllJays daud and billy have a depressing life and suffer something no matter what they did.
Emily and Corvo while having a rough life do go to a better life were their problems are able to be overcome a the end of their stories. as such the knowledge for corvo that it required harming his wifes soul, and emilys mothers, is the punishment instead.
essentially its not punishment for jessamine but the protags
You are reading into it too much. The Outsider in Dishonored is to be considered mostly observer, his influence going only so far as to give the mark to someone. He doesn't even command his chosen usually, just converses with them about their choices.
About the heart, if you read a little more about the voicelines of it, you will find that there were no "final rest" to be had for the Empress after death. It is so not only for her, but for every human in Dishonored universe, it was said that after death everyone goes to the void, as it consumes all. Dishonored lore goes as far as to say that the end of its universe will be the void, when it consumed everything.
it's not a punishment machinr, it's a husk, he linked her soul to ot, what seems to be willing, in the entire game she helps her family and her dialogues point towards doing low chaos, spoilers dishored 2 ahead
in Dishonored 2 in order to make Delilah vulnerable you need to catch the sealed part of her soul and bring it back to her making possible to kill her
you use the heart for it, you free Jesamine's soul, she even warns you that she will no longer be there to help and you'll need to do the rest on your own
the missing piece of Delilah mentions how it wants to go back to Delilah to then kill you, therefore it would also consent with being in the heart
it's kind of a "soul pokeball", you store a willingly soul into it
also i think the machine pieces are a touch of the outsiders tinkery, like the time warp machine having similar design
I never thought being a crafted heart is punishment. Even the title gave the impression of Jessamine's assassination.
I mean if you listen to the heart at like any time in the second game her soul is clearly suffering and literally wants to die. It is heavily implied the use of her heart has warn out and stressed her very soul
@@BloodDragon-rp4xc disturbing.
@@BloodDragon-rp4xc it's interesting that her feelings of having her soul stuck in the heart also depend on chaos level.
In Dishonored 2, in low chaos she says that she was happy to give guidance to Emily/Corvo, but now they have to let her go.
But in high chaos, she is dissappointed that her loved ones became everything she fought against, hates every second spent in this bleak world and just wants to die already.
@@klodtwentytwo2242 she wants to die no matter what. its just one us running from what her families become and one is her knowing they dont need her anymore
@@klodtwentytwo2242she begs you in dishonored 2 to change
I wouldn't call it a punishment. At the end of the day, the Outsider is absolutely neutral with whatever happens in the world. Yes, with his background, he seems to be pleasantly surprised when a protagonist does something good, but he doesn't control anybody and has neutral opinions on almost every character. He's not cruel, at least not on purpose. Saying so just plays into the misconceptions the Abbey have of him and magic in general. I personally think the Outsider did choose favorites this time. Jessamine's death is a catalyst to his own end in the void, and by giving Emily and Corvo the heart, it gave them an advantage and a more likely scenario of his freedom. Whether it was a way to keep their morality in check or to find runes and bonecharms to make themselves stronger, the heart did help them. Jessamine wanted to die the whole yeah, but it's pretty clear in the second game that she still wasn't ready to move on. I think she was probably happier than she was in the first. Her daughter/partner never lost sight of who they were, and she could rest easy that the Empire were finally in the hands of a competent and caring ruler.
I'm not really into the actual Fandom so I'm pretty surprised that a lot of people seem to think the Outsider is a manipulative and cruel god. I don't really consider him a God tbh. Just an unfortunate human forced into a role he never wanted and can't escape from.
I think it’s believable that he holds a grudge about the treatment of whales a little. They are his only company in the void and the only beings we see around his body later.
this comment is really strange; your assessment at the end that the outsider is simply a human being trapped endlessly as the ‘god’ that is the outsider is correct, but despite acknowledging that you fall into the common trap amongst dishonored fans that the outsider is a truly neutral figure. a key point about the outsider’s character (and one that is lost on many people) is that while he does try to appear neutral, he really isn’t. because like you said; at the end of the day he was once a human. he is imperfect. he isn’t a god, but a human being put in the shoes of a god, and honestly he’s just bored and wants to see something interesting happen. he cares less about his neutrality than driving his own little narrative.
he gave Daud Delilah’s name, which i think was a very important part of the shift in Arkane’s painting of the outsider. in the base game of DH1 the outsider at first glance does appear fairly neutral (although i’d still argue if you look deeply enough you can find that he isn’t) but in the DLC his portrayal subtly shifts. the outsider interacts with Daud in a more familiar way and kind of drops some of the cryptic language, and through this slipping of the mask you can start to see his human side.
DH2’s portrayal of the outsider is much more human, its a big change that many didn’t like but i think was a good choice.
of course in DOTO the outsider is effectively fully humanised, it’s the first time his power has ever been challenged (except for the plot point in DH2 where the outsider kind of outwardly states that Delilah is directly drawing from his power and he doesn’t like it) and his facade quickly breaks, which reveals again that he really is just a person.
basically i’m trying to say that the outsider’s supposed neutrality is a gimmick, but not in a bad way. it plays out when it needs to but i also do like that he’s still imperfect because he’s still a person.
@@itsukizy I agree that the Outsider has never actually been neutral. He's also never really been only in it for entertainment, either. You can see it by comparing his high and low chaos dialogue to Corvo, including the endings.
You get the clearest view of it with how he speaks to Daud about killing Jessamine. He is disdainful about it. And he keeps that tone if Daud is high chaos. But if Daud goes low chaos, he seems to lighten up on him.
Outsider had opinions. He just hid it most of the time.
I think he is neutral on all moral issues just because he is the Outsider: He's not just outside of the main universe, he's so far outside of humanity he can't relate. He's an immortal thousands of years old. Good people, evil people, they all die soon enough. What's the point of murder, when the victim only has a few decades left? What's the point of saving the innocent, when you only delay the inevitable? He still finds something of a thrill in humans who fight for something they believe in, even though he knows that all causes are ultimately meaningless, because in those people he can vicariously enjoy the thing that is denied to him now: Actually caring about something. Sometimes he lets them have a little of his power, just to make the show more interesting.
@@vylbird8014can't lie but the Outsider would find you boring for being this one-noted about 'gUd pEpEL' & and vice versa...
especially you utilising the concept of 'morality'.
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me..."
Its decidedly rare to see someone call out the cruelty of the whale hunt. A cruelty that, as you said, is hard to justify. I agree and appreciate this point. Empathy with animals (real or ficticious) seems so rare nowadays and it breaks my heart.
Whale bone was also historically used to create bone charms and Outsider runes, but I don't think he cares about them too much as so he would punish Jessamine for killing whales
Those uses for the crafting of charms and runes were done sparingly. The process itself was conducted upon (presumably) from whale corpses that were left beached on the shores for months (and not from the process of whaling living creatures) and there was a high cultural reason behind the practice, and it wasn't wasteful (this is similar to how tribal cultures around the world would also use animal bones for similar spiritual and cultural purposes) due to the limited and non-monetary background behind crafting such items of a ritualistic and traditional nature.
The Whale Oil refining and harvesting, by contrast, is purely done for industrial and monetary purposes, with little (if any) cultural benefit. Remember, the Outsider is a being heavily affiliated with the Void and the spiritual importance it used to bring to the people who inhabit Dishonored's world.
and people say i’m a disgrace to society
you can even here a voice recording of piero questioning if he can keep a soul alive if he were to keep a heart beating with electricity cant believed i never put that together with the literal heart with a soul in it we carry around🤦♂️
I DIDN'T KNOW THE HEART WAS THE EMPRESS' HEART
AM I DUMB???
Yea
I think it's also worth noting that the heart of the empress was super important in dishonoured 2! Delilah's immortality can't be counteracted until her spirit is taken into the heart (finally granting Jessamine rest), and Jessamine clearly enjoys getting to spend time with a grown-up Emily and say a proper goodbye that she otherwise would have been robbed of the chance to do. I wonder if she, too, made a deal with the outsider - though of a very different nature to Corvo and Emily - or if this was both a jest/punishment from the outsider but also something more positive in the long run.
Thank you for giving me something to think about; Dishonored is one of my favourite series, so any reason to ponder on the depths of these games is always welcome.
It kinda makes scence. Before industrial revolution people relied on magic of the Outsider, and bloody cults ran rampant untill the rebellion led by the Abby of Everymen. They also useing machinery to counter Outsider`s influence.
Echos of the Thief games there, the franchise that birthed the stealth genre.
I play dishonored at least once a year.
My favourite thing when doing a non lethal playthrough is using the heart to pass time, when I'm just walking and don't need the blink I'll keep pressing to use the heart just to hear what it says
Im thinking of doing a ds2 playthrough where I use the heart on everyone and decided to kill/spare them based on what it says
Never ask the Outsider what's his xbox gamertag.
Wait i just realized that the heart was jessamine's.. i thought it was a random heart
I never realized that’s who the voice is holy shit there’s more to think on now
I love the dishonored series
it was her father's reign tho
nice I never wanted to get deep into the Lore of the dishonored series although I loved and beat all of them. Its nice to have someone give the rundown of the story. I want to find another series like this not too crazy but subtle yet satisfying play your own way games. Thank you.
That's so interesting, I'd never thought about the heart like that thank you!
I didn't know that's her heart 😮
Dishonored 2 is one of the best Stealth games i played in a long time and i will consider playing dishonored 1. I just like how your decisions change so much about the World
Yes, TBH dishonored 1 and 2 is my favorite. I am suggesting some stealth games -> Hitman series, thief, plague tale series, batman series try these and let me know if there are any other best stealth games that you have played.
@@lejoyj5951Dues Ex: stealth’s kinda ass imo, but the way Dues Ex is made you can probably stealth it better than I did.
Metal Gear Solid: Games engineered around stealth. Can beat most of them undetected with a tranquilizer, if good enough.
Metro: while not designed as a stealth game. You can certainly do every part while stealth. I found it fun to do so.
Jessamine wasn't even a bad empress tbh. The only bad thing I can think of about her reign is the industrial stuff, but that was more a thing that the people around her were doing, not so much her. She was even trying to help with the plague. She obviously cared for her people. Moreso than the regent, that's for sure. When hiram took over, things got worse, not better.
She isn’t liked in the few books in dishonored 2
Im honestly so happy to see videos on this game still being made!
A truely phenomenal game, and seeing everyone playing it now that still enjoy what it is incredible! Im still gonna be hopeful Dishonored 3 but we might be waiting for a while...
Just me who knows the whole lore of dishonered
That makes sense..i had a thought about it too...
I mean it's confirmed that it was actually Piero that created The Heart, The Outsider merely gave him hints towards it in his dreams. No idea how The Outsider got it though to give to Corvo, maybe it was him who put Jessamine's soul inside it after Piero created the vessel out of her real heart.
Many Many years before the game Kirin Jindosh actually created one though it only lived for 13 minutes before turning to ash. My guess it turned to ash because it didn't have the soul of the person who's heart it was trapped inside it.
The Outsider isn't "punishing" her, because that is not the Outsider's nature. Punishment implies moral order, and the Outsider does not follow that kind of alignment. He's Chaotic Neutral, in D&D terms. Jessamine's daughter was kidnapped, her lover falsely accused of her murder, it was not the Outsider who prevented Jessamine from her final rest, he only gave her the chance to help Corvo save their daughter and prove his innocence. Sure, it's horrific when you think about it, but in his mind, he's doing what they asked for. He doesn't give a damn about the Industrial Revolution of Dunwall or how they achieved it because he knows, as a being of the Void, that everything ends one way or another. Everything is meaningless to him, the only reason he ever interferes is for his own amusement. Just like how he made Daud and Corvo, Granny and Slackjaw, he creates weapons and then creates foils for those weapons to see which one wins.
finally a fan theory i can get behind
Fun fact: Piero actually sees the outsider too in his dreams, the heart tells us this info. Its said that the outsider has an influence on Piero's inventions and creations.
When we firts arrive to the hound pits pub right after the "jailbreak" if we go to piero and listen to the audio tape he's got there he will theorize that may be he can keep a dead heart alive and conserving it's souls by just adding magnets or electricity. That is the same heart the outsider gives Corvo
Industrial society and it's consequences
god damn i want to play dishonored so bad again, its been too long.
Man dishonored lore brings me back I remember all of the games in the trilogy
WTF i didn't know that so the voice is actually her wtf
The heart acts as a co trainer of the soul, she only is cold and rests after the last use of it in dishonered 2
It could of been a punishment but the outsider never asked to be, it could of been a tool given to corvo to give him some comfert as he tried to crawl his way out of hell
Can you really say tho, that a chance to assist Corvo and her daughter is a punishment?
Lesson Learned: Return to Monke
Also, Corvo has become the outsiders insider 😂🤣🤌
This game just feels like a whole critique on society as a whole. Whether it’s the VERY frequent critiques towards the power of greed and control and how it influences those in the “elite” and how it harms those at the bottom. Or critiquing religion, such as the Overseers literally saying that women doing such horrible things like “learning about science and machinery” are witches and should be murdered. It feels like something that would be studied in English classes if it were published during the Industrial Revolution as a book. Like English teachers today would be marveling at the critiques of Industrial society.
Excellent analysis
Jessamine could have asked to leave something to corvo just to guide his heart. And her heart was merged with a machine and given to corvo
Dats Jessamine Kaldwin's heart?!!
That's very thought provoking. Thanks
Not only does the Outsider deny death for Jessamine, he’s also somewhat to blame for her death, considering her killer Daud was able to do so thanks to the power of his own mark, also gifted from the Outsider.
I just replayed the game, and one thing that really stuck out to me is how often NPCs were heard saying, "in these strange times we live in" which was certainly said a lot during covid. Sure, pretty vague, but it just stuck out a lot to me.
I never even thought of that. I knew it was her heart, but it never occurred to me that it might be a punishment. I always thought of it being a simple way to help Corvo grieve her.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel.
If given the opportunity to become a cyborg I will take it with both hands. It would mean I can always be there for my family. Did you ever stop to wonder if the Outsider gave her the choice to remain in that form to provide aid and comfort to her loved ones?
Really cool symbolism. Never thought about that
Oh, imagine holding the still beating heart of your girlfriend whom you had an offspring from.
oh look at that another finn who likes dishonored
you forgot to mention that Jessamine Kaldwin have a child with Corvo which is revealed in Diahonored 2 that Emily is her bastard daughter with Corvo, her royal protector.
Corvo being Emily's father was obvious enough in the first game by dialogues of many npcs and Emily's drawing of Corvo with a caption "Daddy"
I never knew that i just barely started playing dishonored a couple of weeks ago and i like the gameplay and that and of course them killing whale for oil is so messed up but i never knew the heart is the queen's heart that reflects of the queen for metal and that
I completely forgot that was Jessimines heart. Thought the heart was just her own separate character 🤣
That could be true and all but now without recalling all the info as its been a while, that industrial revolution started way before Jessamines reign and she was basically picking up the pieces of the previous rulers, didn't she? Not sure but she always seemed unpopular and maybe she tried to revolutionise but ran out of time before she could. As for the outsider, it's hard to tell why he tormented her, he didn't even do that to others so I don't think there was a motive other than someone really unlucky being the target of his boredom
Whwn you can seal away her evil sister she can finally rest
The real tragedy is that Corvo never actually acknowledges that her spirit is still in there, and try to have an actual conversation. Nope, just a creepy info gathering tool for him, no matter how much she talks to him. ('o')
8:00 hide and seek champ
That's an interesting way at analyzing the games lore. :)
Unibomber? Is that you?
Do we truly need to acknowledge the idea that the industrial revolution and its consequences have been disastrous for the human race?
Well there was a whale in one level who was being kept alive to get oil from it, pretty gruesome 😢 .. so outsider does the same to the empress
So THIS is why the Abbey hates the Outsider so much
That also kinda explains tall boys who apparently dont feel pain and are practically melted into their gear with whale oil tanks on their back and small ones tipping their bolts
Things are bad. Could this city get any worse?
HOLY CHEEKS I NEVER KNEW THAT THR HEART WAS JESAMINES THATS A GOOD FUN FACT 👍
That's a great observation! Well done. I have played these games for years and I've wondered what was the deal with the whales.
*Death of the Outsider spoiler* Now that you mention it, I believe the Outsider feels connected with creatures like the whales, because like the whales, he was subjected to unwarranted cruelty for other people's gain.
That's a great observation about the Outsider and the whales!
I absolutely love your work is there anyway i can donate i don't have much because i am already under student loan but i really want to contribute
Bro who are you? I had no choice but hit that subscribe button. Amazing short.
I cant remember well, but doesnt she keep repeating sometimes how she cant rest or something? I could be wrong tho.
There is another game in the same timeline just way later down the line that implies this much more that the natural order of things was kept in balance by a lack of technology. In this newer game the world has gone apocalyptic. I think it was or is death loop.
Played dishonor 2 recently and I became curious about the outsider. But not curious enough to play the third game😐
the best game ever
Great observation
That’s a nice idea.
What song did you use in the background? Sounds familiar.
What do we do with a drunken whaler.
Are you Finnish? Nice video 👍
Huuuuh….. no matter how many times I tried……. I always end up slaughtering entire cities whenever I do a dishonored run
Theological marxism + Dishonored
source?
Looking way too far into this, but AdMech has joined the chat.
Interesting theory
This video is misleading! The outsider did not punish jessamine. The whole purpose of the heart is for jessamine to guide corvo and emily. Where do you guys get this stuff? The outsider has no history of punishing people!
That’s… What Steampunk is Yeh :)
English teachers overanalyzing stuff be like:
its such a pitty isnt there DS3
Oooh good theory!
Ted Kaczynski agrees with this video