Why Does So Much Great Goth Rock Come from Finland?
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- On episode 116 of the Heavy Metal Philosophy podcast we ponder the secret behind Finland's incredible Goth Rock scene! We dive into the Finnish culture, history, and musical influences that have shaped the nation's unique Goth Rock sound. We'll discuss some of the most iconic Finnish bands that have left their mark on the extreme metal like Kalmah, Amorphis, and Children of Bodom and the goth rock genre like Lordi, H.I.M, Charon, To Die For, and The 69 Eyes. The question is why is Finland goth rock so strong? 🇫🇮 Let's discuss it!
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As a Finn myself I can tell that yes, there is some melancoly and darkness in our culture and especially in our music. Our history is not been so easy because of cold climate, dark winters, several wars during history etc. and hard life in general. 😅
Thank you. I couldn't be sure without hearing from the real deal. 🙏🤘
Finnish metal bands are actually what started me listening to metal more than any other kind of music
Yes!! 🤘🤘
Sorry🇫🇮
In proportion to the population, Finland has the most metal bands in the world
I need to move! 🤘
Its crazy how much people generally/casually listen to metal in Finland. im 23, literally like all my friends dress up like "zoomers", listen to mumble rap and all that shit but still most of them listen metal like 15% of the time. Its hard to realize just how casual it is unless you experience it. its a huge contrast to america, i have also lived there.
That sounds like heaven! 🤘🤘
Hehe that's true. Some of my friends that were all about hip hop are now listening to Amorphis, Dark Tranquillity, Children of Bodom, In Flames etc. (more melodic stuff but still). They do listen to rap anyways but have admitted that they "secretly" love metal.
Dark winters are one factor. Our history also might play a role, it has been pretty harsh here untill very recently. Especially combine those two and you get this culture we have: Sisu, silence, getting through no matter what. Can be a bit toxic too sometimes.
Also i would say our oral tradition contributes to our musical talent in general. Traditionally Finland has passed on stories and information in poet singing form for hundreds, thousands of years. We didn't really write finnish until fairly recently (500 years ago the written finnish was developed, and not all people obviously knew how to write anyway in looo-oong time after that either) Poem singing tradition lasted untill about a hundred years ago and is now being sligtly revived. I personally think this has an effect on the talent aspect.
Also we are very practical people, so learning how to do something really well if you are interested in something is very common.
Shout out from Finland 🎉❤ Check out Hanoi Rocks! Idol for guns and roses for example.
I want to visit and hear the poet singing! 🤘🇫🇮
@@heavymetalphilosophy Cool :) One example of poem singing here. Relevant is you sing one line and then others repeat the same line - and you go on like that. This is easy way to learn stories, as you repeat everything. There are also things that will make it easier, words will be often chosen in a way so they start with same letters or so, for example "vaka vanha", väärin väännellevi" or "suulla suuellevi". Not only stories but spells are done similarly. There are official rules to the length of the words too nowadays, called Kalevala trokee. But naturally people would use practical length how it suited them. We have few different melodies that all of our traditional stories (over 10k of them recorded in couple of last hundred years from poem Singers) can be sang in, you just choose your favourite :) pretty cool.
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@@SK-nw4ig wow! Thank you! 🙏🤘
Poisonblacks first album Escapexstacy is top tier.The finnish metal,goth etc music is my jam .loving this ep ! Im actually quite surprised you mentioned Charon and To/Die/For. they weren't huge but there music is holy fuck good
Oooh. I need to check that out. Thanks for the recommendation! 🤘
@@heavymetalphilosophy enjoy my friend :D if you like Charon then you’ll recognise the singer … long story but after the 1st album Villie Laihiala (sentenced) takes over from guitar to singer/guitar . Love controlled despair is a top tier album then it goes downhill for a couple of albums . Loses the Finnish vibes and becomes more American . Then the last album to date comes back with a bang , very mature goth rock . You didn’t need my rundown but I’m passionate
One of my favorite bands are from there. Before the Dawn.
So much greatness! 🤘🤘
Welcome to the Tuska festival.. I think you'll feel like you've come home.
I wanna go! 🤘🤘🇫🇮
Thank you for being awesome !!! 🤘❤️🙏🖤✌️
Thank you Lu! 🤘
@@heavymetalphilosophy You are very very welcome & it's my absolute pleasure!!! 🥓 ♥ & my awesome 4 🐶 dogs all send you 4 wagging tails & 4 double high fives!!
Hey man, this show is great. I was just in Helsinki and saw this super gothic dude, got curious if I’d seen someone interesting and your show came, and I’m staying. Personally, I’m not much beyond a Metallica listener, but I like to learn
Hey thank you! And welcome aboard. 🙏🤘
I do love turisas! Good vid btw
Thank you! 🙏🤘
Samaal is a cool metal/progressive band from Finland.
Svart Records has bunches of good, semi-obscure bands on label, lot of metal, prog, punk.
Will have to check them out. Thank you! 🙏🤘
Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden no shocks there🤘
Indeed! 🤘
in my city here in Finland (about 7000 people) there is huge folk music scene and music is taken seriously in school, those who don't like folk music go for rock and metal. from this small town comes huge amount of pro musicians per resident. people goes Sibelius Academy and other academies. almost every people i know can play some instrument often multiple.
I wanna visit so bad now. 🤘🇫🇮
the 69 eyes sounds like sisters of mercy(awesome) but with more metal😂😂🤘🏼
I'm always for more metal! 🤘
i think it must be the Finnish Enviroment (long dark winters), history and their dna which resonates and pulls them towards creating and embracing very cool dark heavy music.
I need to visit Finland! You know... In the Summer. 😆🤘
@@heavymetalphilosophy Around midsummer (so when I am writing this) there are numerous music festivals all around Finland. It's usually a good time to visit Finland especially if you are coming over mainly for the music scene.
I think Finland is more famous about power metal and folk metal, and pretty much all kind of melodic metal; also melancholic doom metal. 🤟
Actually there are very few goth rock bands here in Finland. I mean famous bands. We have lots of heavy metal bands, black metal bands, death metal bands, progressive metal bands, symphonic metal bands etc., but not so much well known goth rock bands.
Ive been listening to quite a bit of Goth Rock lately, id recommend Grave Pleasures and a British band called Naut. I agree tho, Unto Others defo offer the best of both worlds.
Ok will do! Thanks for the rec. 🙏🤘
Nightwish ❤
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Or is it something like we do not really think so much Genres? More open to do what ever? I do not know?
Whatever it is, y'all keep doing it! 🤘🤘
Well we have long roots for good rock bands and one of the most famous that started rock scene in big way was Hurriganes at 70s. Here is link to one live track "Get on" czcams.com/video/M1pPwnah_eM/video.html
After that started to come more bands like Hanoi Rocks that is huge influencer for Guns n Roses and basicly all glam bands. Singer Michael Monroe and guitar player Andy MacCoy are still making music. This is one of the most known song "Tragedy" czcams.com/video/aM4BqmRA9WM/video.html
Peer Gunt is also big band from the 80s. Big influencer to many bands. I think they were very big in Germany. At least they are great. This one is "Backseat" czcams.com/video/4bKtkKi0M_E/video.html
Then there are lots of rock/metal bands that have influenced at least other finnish bands.
Zero Nine "White Lines" czcams.com/video/CuYOBTRpdKA/video.html
Stone "Get Stoned" (you might know this from Children of Bodom "covered" this one Roope Latvala played in Stone as he was young) czcams.com/video/kFoDJ2qc8AM/video.html
Waltari "Death Party" czcams.com/video/qTQUyUtwlGY/video.html
Kingston Wall "We Cannot Move" czcams.com/video/BpmWSb3fUAI/video.html
Scene is huge i think all these bands deserves to be heard globaly and are big part of finnish rock and metal history
Thank you so much. This is very informative and you even provided links! Thank you. 🙏🤘
@@heavymetalphilosophy You are welcomed! Yes, easier to watch trough the links and it was fun to watch those videos after a long period for myself too 😄. I was surpriced that no-one had mentioned these legends in the comments. I´ve been metalhead since my childhood (i´m 42 now) and i know hell of alot about finnish rock & metal and also from rock and metal in general. So it´s nice to help people discover "new" bands to listen.
Sir, check Luna Kills, Shiraz Lane, One Desire, Merta, Huora,...
Ok! Thanks! 🙏🤘
I'd add to your list, that Finnish bands aren't particularly genre oriented. Here's some songs you might have missed. Some are essential in Finnish music, some tell about the history of Finland, some are melancholic, some might be joyous, some perhaps Metallic. Nils-Aslak Valkeapää - Beaivi, Áhčážan, Nostatus - Korjuu, Loituma - My Kantele (Eriskummainen kantele), Värttinä - Liigua, Hakkapeliittain Marssi with English Lyrics, Kauan on Kärsitty - Finnish Guard Marching Song (Lyrics), Jean Sibelius - Finlandia, Finnish Army Song - Jääkärimarssi, Finnish Army Song - Muistoja Pohjolasta, Leif Wager - Romanssi, Finnish Folk Song - Säkkijärven polkka, Teijo Joutsela & Humppa-Veikot - Tulipunaruusut, Reijo Taipale - Satumaa, Einojuhani Rautavaara - Piano Concerto No. 1, Lasse Mårtenson - Myrskyluodon Maija, Blues Section - Semi Circle Solitude, Isokynä Lindholm - Jazzikansa tulee, Hurriganes - Get On, Piirpauke - Konevitsan kirkonkellot, Pekka Pohjola - Sekoilu Seestyy, Kaseva - Syksy, Juice Leskinen - Jyrki boy, Briard - Philosophy, Eppu Normaali - Njet njet, Hanoi Rocks - Tragedy, Musta paraati - Hyvää yötä, Dave Lindholm - Pieni ja hento ote, Yö - Joutsenlaulu, Eppu Normaali -.Joka päivä ja jokaikinen yö, Anssi Tikanmäki - Aamu lakeuksilla and Kingston Wall - Shine On Me.
Wow! Thank you! 🙏🤘
We have good music!
Yes!! 🤘🤘
...But I never heard of a russian girl driving a japanese Skyline who had an american boy.
Scandinavia is bringing hair metal back too reckless love santa cruz 🇫🇮 crashdiet crazy lixx 🇸🇪
Can't argue with that! 🤘🤘
For all that enjoy Finnish death metal here are some more names for you to enjoy
- Bloodred hourglass
- Mors Subita
- Deathchains
To the question that you presented to Finns me being one of them. I don't think there is anything special in our water that makes us produce better metal. Metal is just more popular here than it's in other places around the world so we end up with more metal bands and so if the quality spread is same as everywhere else we will end up with more good & great bands than rest of the world. To highlight this... It was normal for people who dressed like rappers were fine and even sometimes suggested metal in house parties. I bet not many rappers in America could name or want to name Dimmu Borgir, Dio/Rainbow or Dope these are all request I have heard form such people.
Makes me wanna live in Finland! 🤘
I found all-female lebanese death metal band "slave to sirens". This is a country where some tribal mom cut her daughters throat when she was raped so they would'nt get shamed because of the daughter. All be it that is not the norm obviously there, but islam being the biggest religion, black/ death metal coming from there in general is bad ass, and female metal is beyond coolness. Also inspired by events in Iran lately i checked out Iranian black metal, and there is PLENTY. Go check that out. People will rebell, always!
Wow! I will check those out.. Thank you! 🙏🤘
Nordic countries are western countries.
You want some more Finnish metal??
How about......
Silentium
The Man-Eating Tree
Lullacry
Before The Dawn
Wolfheart
Battlelore
Torture Killer
Necropsy
Barren Earth
Counting Hours
End Of Aeon
Ghost Brigade
Hallatar
Kaunis Kuolematon
Marianas Rest
Paara
Rapture
Pressure Points
Red Moon Architect
Shamrain
Shape Of Despair
The Ghost I've Become
Lucidity
Yearning
Shadrcrown
Mercury Circle
Solothus
KYPCK
Shades Of Deep Waters
Earthbound Machine
Hanging Garden
Morbid Evils
Altar Of Betelgeuze
Just to mention a "few"..... 😂
Yes!! Thank you! 🙏🤘
i think metal and dark music is opposite power that finland was sometime suicides second country after japanese. heavy music fighting against darkness and bring people hope.
It certainly helps me. Thank you. I didn't know that about Finland.
Open-minded education system? Drums and guitars appeared in school music classes quite early. Melancol and dark mindset?