No-Till Winter Rye Follow-up
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- In this video I show how I was able to grow peas and potatoes in a bed that had winter rye growing in it, without any tilling needed. I also share some thoughts on other no-till applications for winter rye.
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Love your gardening style and I'm jealous of your abundant supply of leafs and branches.
Thank you!
I love what you did with the winter rye. I have a suggestion for you wrt the peas though. You mentioned thinking ahead. So in the bed where you plan to plant the peas the following spring, in the fall, before sowing the rye, just put boards or something flat right down the middle of the bed where you want the peas planted in the spring. Then sow your winter rye. The rye will grow up, but not where the peas are going to be. Then in the spring, just lift the board, revealing pure soil, and plant the peas. You won't have to go thru all the effort to cut and flip the rye before planting. What do you think?
A couple of questions for you.
1. What variety of peas are you growing? Are they climbing vines? When did you plant them?
2. What variety of potatoes are you planting?
Thanks Greg. Great episode!
That's a great idea man! I agree that would save a lot of work :) I planted "super sugar snap" peas and 2 kinds of potatoes - russet burbank and purple chieftain
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That is awesome!
So cool to see the next step! Thanks for showing a follow up. The garden is looking so beautiful ❤
Thanks
Excellent topic. One cover crop combination that I have found useful is pea/oat combination. Both die back with a hard frost, and one can plant potatoes or transplants right into the soil with a mulch already in place. Please follow up in a few weeks!
That sounds good 👍
Glad to see your subscribers are shooting up!
Perfect planting music!
Hello Greg. Your garden is so lush already. We stated battling 100 degree temps and it wasn’t even summer yet.
So I really pray we break those temps soon and I hope we get more rain than last summer.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your ideas for your garden, which has help me many a time.👍🏼😉
Thanks - hope your temp go down soon. I can't imagine 100f - I don't think it's ever been that hot here.
I like the idea of flipping sod for immediate planting of legumes that can make their own Nitrogen, but would be concerned about decomposing green taking away N for some other crops like squash unless the sod was already broken down by planting time.
I'm second and 3rd guessing yhis year's experiment of planting into green cover, maybe remove much larger diameters of sod plugs to plant into so they don't overtake crop plant during growing season..
why would decomposing green take away N? It is a source of N.
@@maritimegardening4887 Eventually for sure. From what I understand, the flurry of bacteria and other organisms also consume available N during decomp. As it finishes decomp, the organisms expire, making nutrients available in spades.
It's great that you do the experimenting and we get the benefits 😉 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
I’m running out of leaves!
Always a challenge :)
😂
Never seem to have enough. I'm down to using grass clippings now
@@dano956 I have a "mulcher" mower, so I don't get clippings 😥
I was squashing potato bugs last night.
Great video!! I will try.
Nicely done! 🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱
Hey Greg, you inspired me to plant garlic in 2020 and I’ve had success ever since. I’m his year I have 3 beds - completely devastated by onion fly larvae. I’m now seeing green flys and worried about the life cycle. I’m going to cover my wife’s onions with white fabric cloth. Any suggestions for the garlic? My thoughts are to let it go and just see what I get, also worried about potential for the beds if it’s all for nothing and could have started something else! Take care glad you’re garden/home is safe from those fires🎉
Sorry - I've never had that problem, so I can't speak from experience about what to do. If I had that problem I would read info from agricultural extensions for ideas about how to deal with it.
I too never had this problem, so take this advice with a grain of salt. To begin, Greg has given the best advice. If you just want to try something, in one bed try insecticidal soap. In another bed try neem oil. In the third bed try pyrethrin. Then see what happens.
I feel your pain. This is our 4th year planting gardens in Nova Scotia. 2020 and 2021 we planted onions, no problems. 2022 we upped our game and planted 700+ onions so we'd have lots to process and lots to store whole. Unfortunately, 2022 brought the onion fly larvae and many onions were ruined. We never knew there was something that would attack onions, thought they were bullet-proof. This year we planted onions in two completely separate beds far from one another and far from the garden they were in last year, fingers crossed. If we get the fly larvae again this year we'll be covering our onion seedlings next year.
@@etet4536 good luck, apparently white cloth during certain parts of the life cycle works well
Hi Greg! I’m in southwestern NS. I’ve used many of your suggestions in my beds too. Im just wondering when you planted the winter rye?
Will you be moving to winter rye for all your beds in fall?
Oh probably not - just ones where i'll be planted things that work using the tricks I showed in this vid. Also - only in the beds that have nothing growing in them but late sept because the rye needs to germinate and grow before freeze-up
How do those leaves not blow away? Whenever I've tried using leaves as mulch, they quickly blow away..
the box holds them in place somewhat. Some leaves blow away more readily than others. You can put tree boughs on them to hold them in place. We have heavy winds here - they work
When do you sow in the fall?
I think Sept is best, and maybe Oct id pushing it if you want to get any growth at all before freeze-up.
Greg, last year you noted your garden beds dried out during the hot summer months. Could one of the effects of your sand pathways be sand does not hold moisture? So, in dry weather, your garden beds dry out quicker. Stated differently, would the wood chip pathways, being organic material, do a better job holding moisture in the garden soil than sand? I use cardboard and wood chips for my garden paths. My hope is the cardboard acts like a sponge to hold water, and the cardboard is good organic material to feed the worms. I sometimes wonder if the soil in my garden paths is better than the soil in my garden beds.
The beds that dried out last year weren't mulched - that was the problem. The beds that were mulched were fine.
I remember Greg used to have woodchip pathways, but was scared they would harbour tics - and then his children would be vulnerable. That's when he changed to sand
How did those spuds turn out!
Have to dig them up soon - maybe sunday. Out of town next couple nights
You don’t never need to water potatoes until they push their way up as they use the energy from the seed potato.
For me, the answer is it all depends. Could the rooting of the seed potato and the potato plant be helped by water? Most newly planted seedlings like a moist rooting environment.
It depends on your weather. If you don't have any rain for over 3 to 4 weeks, you need to water. Some of my potatoes struggle or get ill due to lack of water.
@@smhollanshead the first bit you got right, the seed potato’s store the energy for the plant, hence why some people put there potatoes into egg cartons to Chitting Potatoes this (allow the eyes to appear before planting, and shorter green growth (more detail Below) which is what it does underground before you see the foliage breaking through the soil, that’s the start of photosynthesis that’s when the roots grow and require water in general.
If it rained for two weeks and the soil was saturated with water the potatoes you planted will start to rot underground unless the water is draining away say in a raised bed.
Importantly make sure you get zoned Variety Potato Seed stock, days to maturity and sunlight ours are also important like in the Allium Family (Onions, Garlics and leaks)..
@@dennismarks6133 yes but only after the potato plant breaks through the soil, then water is required and hilling too.
Sometimes it’s the seed potato or store potato that is the issue, obviously weather conditions do have a factor as to fertiliser too much or too little, you want the plant to photosynthesis on top but not to much or you’ll just get leaf growth not tuber growth where new potatoes appear.
Just keep the soil moist for the soil to improve, compost and have good microbial growth.
@@rickthelian2215 It will not take 3 weeks for the potatoes to pop out of the ground. Chitting is good but not always required. Some of my potatoes were left in the ground during winter with heavy rain. The plants look partially healthier now compared to the others. But you're right, I wouldn't put potatoes in muddy soil.
Are you not concerned about the colored ink in those bags? Is it food coloring?
I’m also curious about Greg’s take on this. From what I hear most ink is soy-based and the only problems was when it was lead-based that they don’t do anymore because of all the poisonings and such.
I'm not concerned at all. It's a veg-based dye as far as I understand.
I wonder if pre sprouting the rye would discourage the rodents? Just a thought.
It would be slightly harder to sow, but I don't think significantly.
Of course the rodents might think it still a delight to eat!
I'm quite interested in the cover crop idea. I was always very confused about the actual process, but I think you are explaining it really well. I just bought 2 rabbits and they love clover, so I think I'll try sowing some of that as a cover crop, perhaps as I pull my garlic this summer.
Thanks for another great video.
@@maritimegardening4887 Okay, thank you.
My potatoes are beautiful like the ones you have but I'm concerned about potato bugs. 3 years ago they wiped out my whole crop and I haven't planted in that area since. I've decided to give it another go and have been using diatomaceous earth and End All. Is there anything that I can do differently that you can think of? I have no sign of them yet but I know once there is one, there will be hundreds. lol
Sorry, I really don't know - I've never had that problem. Some potatoe varieties are more vulnerable than other - so maybe explore different varieties?
Can you cut those leggy white things off.
You can but I don't bother