In order to have the worst record over 82 games, they can only win 6 more. The 72-73 76ers went just 9-73. The worst winning percentage goes to the Bobcats when they went 7-59 in a lockout shortened season. By going 8-74 the Pistons would claim both records.
They'll be bad but not that bad. They'll prolly even go on a surprising 2 or 3 game win streak totally decimating the losing pace required to break the record
Im not even going to front. I was so emotional watching Cade's reaction after the pistons lost their 25th straight. Someone trade for that man. He can actually have a career if he wasnt in the basketball equivalent of North Korea.
As a lifelong Bulls fan, I have a special hate for the Pistons. Even I am starting to feel bad for them. How can you not win a single game by accident, once in a while?
Were you a fan during the MJ years? I only came up in the DRose era and have apathy and pity for them lol, if anything I root for all my fellow midwest teams (except the Bucks during the regular season)
@@euro51116 Detroit and Chicago just don't like eachother. Pistons- Bulls, Red Wings- Blackhawks, Tigers- White Sox, Lions- Bears, Detroit deepdish- Chicago deepdish. Division rivals in all sports and deep dish rivals. Also murder rates. Just good old fashioned true American hate.
As a lifelong Psitons fan and a Jordan hater, I appreciate your sympathy for us, lol. Ironically, I was hoping the D Rose led Bulls would overthrow the Celtics and Heat during those early 2010s teams. And Carmello should've definitely signed with the Bulls instead of resigning with New York at that time.
At this point, every team they play will treat games like a game 7 because nobody wants that on their records. That said, I think they're gonna beat the Warriors next time they play. The Warriors play to the level of their competition more than anyone.
1000% Agree. For anybody who hasn't watched the Spurs. If you do, you'll realize just how bad certain players are. Worse yet, the Spurs have no point-guard at all!
Tre Jones called, he’d like you to stop the lie there. Unfortunately, he doesn’t get to showcase that as much as he could as another young player with potential because they wanna try making another Ben Simmons in Sohan. While he could be, that shouldn’t be his role when it doesn’t fit w Wemby as much and is detrimental to Tre
@@ineveryuniverse3953 Tre Jones is 6 foot, can't shoot, 23 going on 24. An average defender and facilitator. Is he smart, yes. But you can't label him a modern day NBA point-guard. On some teams, he'd be an undersized wing.
@@AyoJeezy Ok, then were do you put him. Because, his size and shooting are a big issues. Now, If he was your Pat Bev type I'd take it but he's not. He's not an elite defender.
@@solomonadjei758Yes, yes... And Ben Simmons and Magic were/are power forwards, not guards because of their size also. Of cource Tre Jones is guard. Not being a great one at that, doesn't make him a wing.
1. You have 3 bigs (who play the same position and non of them can stretch the floor) 2. You have a rookie who can’t shoot, not even a lil bit 3. You have cade cunningham solo squading team 4. It’s Detroit
@@jacobcrist7982Totally different NBA. More 3 point shooting and offensively oriented Also the Pistons dont have a Randolph or Gasol who were damn near automatic 1 on 1 in the post
Thank you for speaking out against misogyny in basketball discourse. It’s so rampant on social media and makes it difficult for me to engage as a female fan-and what’s crazy is the endless stream of ridiculous macho/toxic/alpha cringe takes about players never get men disqualified as a group from having opinions, but god forbid a woman adds to the discussion, lest an army of insecure man children rage about it. Liked the rest of the video too, please keep up the awesome content!
@@nba2kworld433 She's already coached in the NBA under Pop, you have no idea what you're talking about. And you don't speak for men, I've had female bosses before that were great. Just because you are insecure and stunted doesn't mean everyone is
You’re so right about the whole situation regarding how women are treated in NBA discourse. Honestly depressing to see how normalized it is to attack someone’s competence solely because they are a woman.
As a lifelong Pistons fan, give Cade a better home. This ownership, this front office, and this coaching staff doesn't deserve Cade or any player. It's painful.
@@PTBIChe has not been outstanding. Fg% below 45% shooting sub 35% from 3 with average assists and rebounds averaging 22 points is not impressive on one of the worst teams of all time.
thanks for that last part of the video rusty.. it’s a serious problem that needs to be addressed by the league. but with players like miles bridges still here and karl malone being celebrated, it’s a long way to go. from what i’ve seen a lot of male NBA fans around your age agree on this point. maybe it’ll get better sometime in the future but for that to happen we need more people like you speaking up about it. this kind of shit makes the fan experience so tiring and i find myself avoiding even giving an opinion all together. it kinda negates the whole idea of an NBA “community”
Relax, people get called idiots all the time for their takes, it has nothing to do with being a man or woman. the only thing NBA fans get on women about is the WNBA and rightfully so.
@@psychotropnilachtan8869it’s getting out of control at this point. Yes there are sexist people with commentary who shouldn’t be listened to but any man/woman that says something on a national platform and a fan doesn’t agree the fan will let them know. If she said this take on her podcast I doubt anyone would find out or care.
@@liferealgoodthat’s just not true, and I have a feeling you know it. If it were Stephen A or Skip the negative comments/discourse would be “Stephen A is such A Clown.” When it’s Becky Hammon the discourse is “this is why the WNBA is poverty,” “I swear bro, every time one of the dumbass takes comes out it’s a f*cking d*ke” and “if you I can beat you 1on1, you should shut your f*cking mouth.” Those are all instagram comment quotes from this clip. If you can’t see the difference in aggression and superiority between the Stephen A comments and the Becky Hammon comments, that’s on you. People insult Stephen A’s Take. People insult Becky Hammon’s looks, sexuality, intelligence, competence, right to speak, etc. those are not the same. Think about that.
Fire Monty, Fire Weaver, Sell the team. If nothing else please fire Monty, he’s clearly lost the locker room already and his deployments are awful. There are real NBA players here, and the current people in charge have done nothing but fail the real talent on this roster.
In the game against the suns where he had 38 they found victor under the rim consistently and he took over the game it’s like they saw it was that easy for him and just didn’t like it
That Bobcats team that only won 7 games also did it in a shortened season. So they had a win percentage of .106, meanwhile if Detroit continues their season on current pace of only 2 wins every 28 games then they will finish the season around 6 wins... in a full length season.
A lot of respect for your last take calling out people for jumping on her for that incredibly like warm take. This isn’t about politics or feminism, it’s just true that women’s opinions are not respected by a group of nba fans and just sports fans in general. Those people needa grow up.
i think that when the season ends the spurs and pistons should have their own 5 game playoff series to see which is the worst team and they get to hold whoever wins the scrub trophy.
I honestly think Wemby is getting the rookie Bron treatment from his teammates. I think Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson, and picks need to be packaged for an elite level point guard (if possibly available).
I feel like it's Pop trying to force guys into playing his way, and being overly fearful of them becoming too reliant on Wemby and making him the system. He has them overcomplicating the game, trying to play "spurs basketball" when most of the time it really is as simple as getting the ball to your best player in his spots. I respect it, but at the same time it's giving me Bill Belichick vibes acting like the system is more important than talent. Maybe he feels like letting Wemby shine will come at the expense of the team & his program, but dude it's 2023. Talent sells tickets & talent wins games. There's no logical reason why he should be getting ignored in the paint with obvious advantages.
That’s a dumb idea. Vassell and Keldon are on affordable contracts and are clearly two of the Spurs better players. Vassell is a three level scorer and Keldon is one of the few who can get the ball to Wemby consistently despite what Rusty may think. Also who is this elite level point guard they are going to get? All the good guards are on playoff teams and don’t line up with the Spurs timeline. Point guard will be addressed after this year most likely in the draft. Spurs have bigger problems defensively than offensively imo.
@@nicholaskatsikas4904 I guess drafting a point guard would be the better option especially with the guard talent in this upcoming class (there are a number of point forwards as well, but I doubt the Spurs would want a repeat of the Jeremy Sochan experiment). There are a couple young star point guards in imploding situations that could be possible trade candidates this offseason such as Darius Garland, LaMelo Ball, Trae Young, and Cade Cunningham (a cheaper option), but none of them are guaranteed or even likely to be traded.
John Wall told Rockets players to not get used to losing, and look at them now as the Rockets have young guys playing to win and they got Fred and Dillon there to help. The Pistons lack veteran leadership, guys to show young players the ropes in the league. People to tell them not to be complacent with losing. Ownership doesn’t care about winning, which makes the front office not care about winning, which leads to the coaches not caring about winning, which leads to players not caring about winning.
it isn’t difficult to take a stance supporting women like Rusty did. yet it’s notable because it just does not typically happen from your other favorite creators. always wish you nothing but success man. smart analysis and a passionate guy. and most importantly someone with integrity
I think a ton of people in these comments forget how bad those 2011 bobcats were. They used to have debates about whether they could beat college teams. That team had a young core of kemba and biyombo. The best player was bad porno…… This pistons team is constructed like garbage where it’s like they threw a bunch of talented kids together and let them run amok. Guys like Stewart might look bad in a game like this but he’s actually pretty good and could be big factor coming off the bench for a contender but instead he plays in a system where you’re not even sure who the team is trying to build around unless they think they’re trying to rebuild to 2004 pistons team😂😂
The problem people have with the Brunson comment is not that he’s not championship number 1 it’s how they treat him in general, they treat him like a sub allstar. Also don’t do this cop out saying it’s because she’s a woman, they attack literally every ESPN person for saying the same thing about brunson
It was so unnecessary after a stretch of excellent play. Brunson overcomes doubters time and time again though lets see how he responds. I don’t understand how that comment could be made though and media heads still push Donovan Mitchell to NY. Knick coverage is so unserious
Yea definitely a copout. They roast everyone on ESPN with a take. They’ll roast Rusty too in some videos based of his takes. If you have a take just be prepared to defend it and move on. Stop with the I have a vagina so I can’t be critiqued nonsense.
@@liferealgoodthat’s not what Rusty is addressing. It’s the content of the comments. If they disagree that fine. They bring her sex into the conversation to disqualify her opinion.
It blows my mind how bad they are because they have a fairly talented team between Cade Ausar Ivey and Duren and then they have good shooters like sasser Harris burks bogdanovic and even Stewart has shot well
@@SomeChink I’m not saying they’re a play in team talent wise, but they definitely shouldn’t be on this losing streak or even be the worst team in the league like they should be better then Washington and San Antonio
Bro as someone who watches every pistons game it made me lol that u suggested this had something to do with tanking. We are trying to win every game, believe it.
They just don't know how to do basic things. Honestly, I don't know how most of them got to this level of basketball except on pure talent and/or physical gifts. I stopped watching them when I saw full games with players running to the other end of the court after every shot and not even trying for rebounds. Maybe they've corrected that but that shouldn't happen with any professional team. I've watched almost every minute of the Spurs this year. The "Wemby doesn't get the ball enough" narrative is nonsense. He gets it more than anyone on that team BY FAR. You can see it in his usage rating. They were complaining about him not getting the ball during that Bulls game 1) when his teammate had just made an easy floater, 2) when Wembanyama had camped out at the three point line, where he's quite literally one of the worst in the entire NBA, and 3) when the defender was in position to intercept the pass. The Bulls front court players were bullying him out of position. It doesn't help him to blame his teammates instead of him just working on being better at getting position. People want to believe the issue is his teammates because Wembanyama hasn't shown what they thought he would yet. Another thing he was supposed to do was be able to create his own shot off the dribble. I have MAYBE seen him do that like 4 times, and that's being generous. People throw out this "generational talent" phrase without any justification. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But I'd say to look at the Bulls the year before Jordan and the year after Jordan or the Cavs before Lebron and after Lebron. Those guys had immediate massive impacts on winning.
This is a point that I don’t think enough people think about. The longer the streak goes on, the harder it’s probably gonna be to break the streak, which is now currently at 26 as of my comment on Christmas Eve. The longer the streak goes on, whoever they play is gonna play like they’re playing the prime Warriors, Big 3 Heat or Michael Jordan Bulls cuz they don’t wanna be the team who ends Detroit’s streak. Detroit is gonna need some god level RNG to end this streak
This is Cade Cunningham's second season technically. They have 3 frontcourt big men who don't stretch the floor. I'm not surprised they're the worst team in NBA history.
Yea I didn’t get why people were upset about the Jalen Brunson comments. As a mavs fan I love Brunson, man has definitely shown he is much better than he’s draft pick and he’s a fringe all star at least. But we all know that that Knicks team is missing something and Brunson as as your number 1 option won’t get you there unless the rest of the roster plays out of their minds. People have been saying it, but rusty is right. A women said so now people have an issue with it. It’s dumb honestly
True but bobcats were so bad there literally was discussion if they could even beat a college team 😂😂 If you were watching back then it was BAAAADDD lol
Pistons honestly need to undergo the process. Trade all their recent young draft picks (you couldn’t put into words the amount of draft capital they would get back), fire Monty no matter how big that cap hit is, maybe if you’re the owner fire the GM, and start this thing over completely from scratch with the scraps of the other 29 teams.
10:29 - No, she didn’t say that. She said Jalen Brunson can’t be the #1 on a championship team because he’s small and proceeded to say that you aren’t winning with a small guy as your #1. Which is objectively false, Steph Curry, Chauncey Billups, Dwyane Wade, Isiah Thomas are all examples of this. If she had said unlikely, it would have been a valid take, but she based Brunson not being a #1 based on his height rather than his skill. Also, it’s disrespectful to all the small guards that could have been a #1 on a championship team but didn’t because of circumstances (Westbrook, CP3, Iverson) And yes, while I agree that there are a lot of people that jumped on her because she’s a women with an opinion, I strongly disagree that this was a good opinion. At the very least, it was an opinion that she did a bad job at elaborating with.
Isiah thomas was undersized and led his pistons too back to back championships in 89-90. Yes the pistons were a Great team on both sides of the court but he was the clear number 1 scoring option and the best player on that team. But besides him no other small guatd
The Pistons right now are the perfect argument against the lottery and gifting awful franchises the most talented players. Cunningham, unless he risks it all on his 5th year option, is stuck there for what... 7 to 9 years? All this loosing will be really bad for his developement as a player and his reputation. And it is not as if the Pistons suddenly turned into a shitshow. They have been bad on as an oragnisation for a decade. But as a reward, they get another Top 3 pick, they can ruin. Hopefully, someone offers Cade a 1+2 deal as an unrestricted free agent, so he can get out ASAP. But there seems to be a bro code between the GMs, not to offer short deal with lots of player options to unrestricted free agents...
I've been thinking is this really the worst team in nba history, it might be but part of me thinks that the level of competition in the league has stepped up so much that really bad teams like the pistons, wizards and spurs don't got a shot against even the average teams.
Nah the pistons and spurs and alot of recent bad teams are so bad because they're blatantly tanking and not even trying to win so they can get top picks in the draft. It's so blatant that the sixers even Created a name for there style of tanking and even used it to get the fans to buy into it and be patient and keep buying tickets to the games until the process was complete. The sixers rebranded loosing games on purpose to "trust the process"
Watching this after Alvini's review of the Pistons for the last 15 years just shows there has been TOO many problems. Im talking they need HARD reset. Overhaul the roster and front office, sell the team, Thanos this bitch and click the big red button its over and no coming back
Someone compile a gametape of their last 10 games and I'll watch it and give a opinion on what needs to be added and removed to make them competitive. Problem is i can't tell if the pistons even want to win, they always seem to be tanking for a pick.
Brunson can be a first option in a finals team if you mix him with the right components being great shooters and defenders and some dirty players like Detroit or golden state had to protect their smaller stars
Idk why it’s so hard to understand. ESPN love generating clickbait. That’s all this was. Brunson can be a #1 option on a title contending team. The team currently isn’t a title contender. I think they need at least two more players. Preferably a 3-D wing, and a backup PF.
Jalen Brunson is closer to Fred VanVleet than a guy like Tyreese Haliburton, and I don’t even know if Hali can be a number 1 on a championship team. No one is saying he’s a bad player, but who are you kidding. He could never be the #1
I don't watch piston games so any fans would know more than me but what is the issue? Players,coaching,management or a combination? Cause this is getting sad
Coming up on one of the worst draft classes of all time, Pistons are destined to replace Sacramento as the leagues greatest poverty franchise for the next 10 years.
Its hilarious reading this comment section comparing Wembys situation to LeFraud's rookie year😂😂 yall just cant help yourselves by interjecting that dude into any and every basketball situation. Its sickening.
Yeah, there are a lot of pretty good teams this year, but whatever you think of the players, Detroit with even a vaguely competent coach has four or five wins and not two. Yes, sell the team, fire the coach and everyone in the front office, and at least have open tryouts or something. There are guys sitting on their sofa watching that are better than some of your rotation guys.
Nah pop just doesn't have David Robinson, Duncan, Parker , manu anymore and it's been a long time since he's had to start from zero and build a good team. He'll be back in a few seasons when victor developes
@@joel8692 soo Wemby is just gonna develop with no effort? Pop has to put in the work to develop that young talent, it's not only on Wemby. He didn't draft himself. He doesn't implement these terrible game plans that don't involve him in the offense for extended stretches of every game He already fumbled Kawhi and now he's fumbling Wemby 🤦♂️
Hey, you gotta put some respect on Zekes name. 4 guys with 9k assists. Magic, Stockton, Oscar and Zeke. Youre talking about a legend. The Badboys an ensemble... so what were the showtime lakers, Bird Celtics and Jordan Bulls? You know, the teams that all had 5 hall of famers on them at points in their runs. And he beat them all. Zeke was the superstar, he was the one that made them the bad boys. He took an "ensemble" against superteams and won. One of the best point guards in history and arguably the best of his era with Stock and Magic in the league. He also didnt have Karl Malone, James Worthy, Larry Bird, Kareem... if Zeke goes to one of those teams and plays with legends, like all the other legends got to do in that era, we talk about that man differently. He led a team that was hated by the nba officials to back to back championships and really got robbed out of a 3peat and he did it against 3 of the best dynasties in NBA history. Steph had way more fucking help than Zeke, so you really need to switch that narrative around. Zeke is that guy thay you're giving Steph credit for being
Zeke definitely deserves credit for his performance vs the Lakers in the finals game 6 when he scored 25 on an injured ankle to win the championship. Also Steph definitely had more help on the warriors when KD was on the team but the warriors from 2015-2016 that won a ring and set a record with 73-9 and lost in the finals vs cavs was a super team. The pistons actually can be compared player for player with pre KD warriors and they match up good.
As a Spurs fan the most frustrating thing is how awful Sochan is. It takes balls to dye your hair and wear Rodman's number and then have a defensive FG% on par with Trae Young's and in the bottom third of the league. Feels like the Sochan PG experiment was Pop hoping he'd find some way to be able to get Sochan on the floor but he's useless and the only thing he does competently is shoot FTs. Having Primo and Sochan as your lottery picks in back to back years makes the front office look almost as incompetent as the coach.
Trae actually hustles his ass off on defense now. He's just too small to properly contest shots against anyone taller than 6'2", and the defensive scheme the Hawks run does him no favors either. He's a better defender than the stats would have you believe.
Isiah thomas is 6,1" and he was the clear number 1 scoring option in both the pistons championship series . The pistons were up in the series 3-2 but the Lakers had big lead in the 4th and they looked like they were gonna tie the series especially cause Isiah left the game with an ankle injury. He. Ane back and exploded with 25 points in the 4th
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In order to have the worst record over 82 games, they can only win 6 more. The 72-73 76ers went just 9-73. The worst winning percentage goes to the Bobcats when they went 7-59 in a lockout shortened season. By going 8-74 the Pistons would claim both records.
We making history 🥲
@@gnm4at this point I'll take it. If you're going to do something be great at it even if it's losing😂
yeah they will, literally worst team in history, its actually wild
The worst part is this roster on paper is much better then those teams, poor coaching is an understatement
They'll be bad but not that bad. They'll prolly even go on a surprising 2 or 3 game win streak totally decimating the losing pace required to break the record
Im not even going to front. I was so emotional watching Cade's reaction after the pistons lost their 25th straight. Someone trade for that man. He can actually have a career if he wasnt in the basketball equivalent of North Korea.
I saw his face and I felt for the guy
@@saucyca1821 I don't usually resort to this type of behavior, but ratio.
@@seandawson5899no…..
@@seandawson5899I’m dead😂😂 that gets a like from me lmaoooo
Why you feeling emotional for a multi millionaire? He’s good lol
As a lifelong Bulls fan, I have a special hate for the Pistons. Even I am starting to feel bad for them. How can you not win a single game by accident, once in a while?
Were you a fan during the MJ years? I only came up in the DRose era and have apathy and pity for them lol, if anything I root for all my fellow midwest teams (except the Bucks during the regular season)
@@euro51116 Detroit and Chicago just don't like eachother. Pistons- Bulls, Red Wings- Blackhawks, Tigers- White Sox, Lions- Bears, Detroit deepdish- Chicago deepdish. Division rivals in all sports and deep dish rivals. Also murder rates. Just good old fashioned true American hate.
@@euro51116 i put money he saw the 1989 series
As a lifelong Psitons fan and a Jordan hater, I appreciate your sympathy for us, lol. Ironically, I was hoping the D Rose led Bulls would overthrow the Celtics and Heat during those early 2010s teams. And Carmello should've definitely signed with the Bulls instead of resigning with New York at that time.
At this point, every team they play will treat games like a game 7 because nobody wants that on their records. That said, I think they're gonna beat the Warriors next time they play. The Warriors play to the level of their competition more than anyone.
1000% Agree. For anybody who hasn't watched the Spurs. If you do, you'll realize just how bad certain players are. Worse yet, the Spurs have no point-guard at all!
Tre Jones called, he’d like you to stop the lie there. Unfortunately, he doesn’t get to showcase that as much as he could as another young player with potential because they wanna try making another Ben Simmons in Sohan. While he could be, that shouldn’t be his role when it doesn’t fit w Wemby as much and is detrimental to Tre
@@ineveryuniverse3953 Tre Jones is 6 foot, can't shoot, 23 going on 24. An average defender and facilitator. Is he smart, yes. But you can't label him a modern day NBA point-guard. On some teams, he'd be an undersized wing.
@@solomonadjei758 there isnt a single undersized wing thats 6 feet. Those are all called Guards.
@@AyoJeezy Ok, then were do you put him. Because, his size and shooting are a big issues. Now, If he was your Pat Bev type I'd take it but he's not. He's not an elite defender.
@@solomonadjei758Yes, yes... And Ben Simmons and Magic were/are power forwards, not guards because of their size also.
Of cource Tre Jones is guard. Not being a great one at that, doesn't make him a wing.
1. You have 3 bigs (who play the same position and non of them can stretch the floor)
2. You have a rookie who can’t shoot, not even a lil bit
3. You have cade cunningham solo squading team
4. It’s Detroit
Yeah but Ausar’s been a good rebounder and defender
5. The starting SG also can't shoot and is only starting because he can "defend"
and half the roster shouldn’t even be in the league
@@winter9242 Tony Allen couldn’t shoot yet started and was good
@@jacobcrist7982Totally different NBA. More 3 point shooting and offensively oriented
Also the Pistons dont have a Randolph or Gasol who were damn near automatic 1 on 1 in the post
Thank you for speaking out against misogyny in basketball discourse. It’s so rampant on social media and makes it difficult for me to engage as a female fan-and what’s crazy is the endless stream of ridiculous macho/toxic/alpha cringe takes about players never get men disqualified as a group from having opinions, but god forbid a woman adds to the discussion, lest an army of insecure man children rage about it.
Liked the rest of the video too, please keep up the awesome content!
Becky Hammond will be the first female NBA Head Coach, and I think it will happen in less than 5 years. I PRAY she takes over from Pop
Damn, i'm sorry.. don't listen to these morons. We should all be united in our love for the game. 🏀
@@natedogg890that will never happen men won’t be receptive to a women coach
@@nba2kworld433 She's already coached in the NBA under Pop, you have no idea what you're talking about. And you don't speak for men, I've had female bosses before that were great. Just because you are insecure and stunted doesn't mean everyone is
^ literally Rusty's exact point lol
Wemby's situation low-key sounds like the teammate situation LeBron had to deal with in his rookie year
I think pop ain’t helping so they can tank (dangerous). I hope they clean house in offseason at the very least.
😂😂😂😂
You’re so right about the whole situation regarding how women are treated in NBA discourse. Honestly depressing to see how normalized it is to attack someone’s competence solely because they are a woman.
Facts
As a lifelong Pistons fan, give Cade a better home. This ownership, this front office, and this coaching staff doesn't deserve Cade or any player. It's painful.
He ain’t that good either
Cade has been outstanding but they keep screwing him over with this two big lineup the second they don’t do that he drops 40
@@TriquetraDsyou don’t watch hoops bro
@@PTBIChe has not been outstanding. Fg% below 45% shooting sub 35% from 3 with average assists and rebounds averaging 22 points is not impressive on one of the worst teams of all time.
@@emilelerate6454 Watching basketball reference is not watching basketball
thanks for that last part of the video rusty.. it’s a serious problem that needs to be addressed by the league. but with players like miles bridges still here and karl malone being celebrated, it’s a long way to go. from what i’ve seen a lot of male NBA fans around your age agree on this point. maybe it’ll get better sometime in the future but for that to happen we need more people like you speaking up about it. this kind of shit makes the fan experience so tiring and i find myself avoiding even giving an opinion all together. it kinda negates the whole idea of an NBA “community”
Damn, this deserves way more likes. You spittin'
Relax, people get called idiots all the time for their takes, it has nothing to do with being a man or woman. the only thing NBA fans get on women about is the WNBA and rightfully so.
Lmao. How dare anyone disagree with a women ! Outrageous indeed
@@psychotropnilachtan8869it’s getting out of control at this point. Yes there are sexist people with commentary who shouldn’t be listened to but any man/woman that says something on a national platform and a fan doesn’t agree the fan will let them know. If she said this take on her podcast I doubt anyone would find out or care.
@@liferealgoodthat’s just not true, and I have a feeling you know it. If it were Stephen A or Skip the negative comments/discourse would be “Stephen A is such A Clown.” When it’s Becky Hammon the discourse is “this is why the WNBA is poverty,” “I swear bro, every time one of the dumbass takes comes out it’s a f*cking d*ke” and “if you I can beat you 1on1, you should shut your f*cking mouth.” Those are all instagram comment quotes from this clip. If you can’t see the difference in aggression and superiority between the Stephen A comments and the Becky Hammon comments, that’s on you. People insult Stephen A’s Take. People insult Becky Hammon’s looks, sexuality, intelligence, competence, right to speak, etc. those are not the same. Think about that.
True about Wemby, I thought I was crazy noticing how they avoid him since nobody talks about it. They huck him grenades and that’s about it
Pop isnt even trying at this point, it's sad
Cade doesn't deserve this, hopefully he lands on a contender one day.
Cade wanted to be here the Pistons is his team we ain’t trading him no time soon they will get better soon injuries hurt us in most of this bs
And the thing is the 3 teams with the worst record have the same odds for the no 1 pick, which makes this losing streak unnecessary
11:44 Dwayne Wade is in that conversation for the Heat in 06, you can argue Chauncey Billups was the Pistons best player in 04.
i’m so glad you addressed the sexism that is pervasive in basketball. it’s something that needs to be talked about way more often.
Fire Monty, Fire Weaver, Sell the team.
If nothing else please fire Monty, he’s clearly lost the locker room already and his deployments are awful. There are real NBA players here, and the current people in charge have done nothing but fail the real talent on this roster.
In the game against the suns where he had 38 they found victor under the rim consistently and he took over the game it’s like they saw it was that easy for him and just didn’t like it
Here is a true statement that will make you mad:
Detroit is hands down the most consistent team in the league.
Why would that make someone mad 🤣 You banking on people just misunderstanding a basic point?
@@Cbrunning849 it's the internet. That's like 90% of what people do on here.
Genuinely don't know what the pistons Front Office/Owners should do. Sell? Trade? Leave it be? They are that bad, unfortunately Cade
That Bobcats team that only won 7 games also did it in a shortened season. So they had a win percentage of .106, meanwhile if Detroit continues their season on current pace of only 2 wins every 28 games then they will finish the season around 6 wins... in a full length season.
Can’t wait to see the Pistons still get like the fourth pick in the draft after this horrendous season
Watch they fall to like 8th and the guy taken 7th ends up being generational
A lot of respect for your last take calling out people for jumping on her for that incredibly like warm take. This isn’t about politics or feminism, it’s just true that women’s opinions are not respected by a group of nba fans and just sports fans in general. Those people needa grow up.
The Tony Ferguson of the NBA right now
i think that when the season ends the spurs and pistons should have their own 5 game playoff series to see which is the worst team and they get to hold whoever wins the scrub trophy.
Rachel Nichols has a lot of takes and I usually only see people give her mad respect? She's easily my favorite NBA analyst
Also Doris Burke
@@lucasamoriim5126 exactly!
Multiple topics in one video is dope👍🏿
"Rusty's Run Down" ??
Thank you for calling out NBA twitter for hownawful they are. Its one of the most homophobic, misogynistic part of the Internet.
I’m loving these new rusty videos. I was loving the videos before but they got better and I’m a big fan of it
they a different type of ass i swear😭
Marvin Bagley is currently leading the pistons in win shares.
💀
Fucking yikes
Why would people not pass the ball to Wemby? Its like a free extra 3 assists per game. That will keep you in the NBA
I honestly think Wemby is getting the rookie Bron treatment from his teammates. I think Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson, and picks need to be packaged for an elite level point guard (if possibly available).
I feel like it's Pop trying to force guys into playing his way, and being overly fearful of them becoming too reliant on Wemby and making him the system. He has them overcomplicating the game, trying to play "spurs basketball" when most of the time it really is as simple as getting the ball to your best player in his spots.
I respect it, but at the same time it's giving me Bill Belichick vibes acting like the system is more important than talent. Maybe he feels like letting Wemby shine will come at the expense of the team & his program, but dude it's 2023. Talent sells tickets & talent wins games. There's no logical reason why he should be getting ignored in the paint with obvious advantages.
Luka was probably best rookie since Lebron and it took vets until February to get over their egoes and let Luka run the show. Thats just how it goes.
That’s a dumb idea. Vassell and Keldon are on affordable contracts and are clearly two of the Spurs better players. Vassell is a three level scorer and Keldon is one of the few who can get the ball to Wemby consistently despite what Rusty may think. Also who is this elite level point guard they are going to get? All the good guards are on playoff teams and don’t line up with the Spurs timeline. Point guard will be addressed after this year most likely in the draft. Spurs have bigger problems defensively than offensively imo.
@@nicholaskatsikas4904 I guess drafting a point guard would be the better option especially with the guard talent in this upcoming class (there are a number of point forwards as well, but I doubt the Spurs would want a repeat of the Jeremy Sochan experiment). There are a couple young star point guards in imploding situations that could be possible trade candidates this offseason such as Darius Garland, LaMelo Ball, Trae Young, and Cade Cunningham (a cheaper option), but none of them are guaranteed or even likely to be traded.
Multiple topics in a vid is definitely a great direction to go👍
Also free Cade
It’s been 3 guards, Steph, Wade, and IT
Was at this game. U can see it in the players eyes. One run by the Jazz and the pistons had already, by their body language, accepted defeat
John Wall told Rockets players to not get used to losing, and look at them now as the Rockets have young guys playing to win and they got Fred and Dillon there to help. The Pistons lack veteran leadership, guys to show young players the ropes in the league. People to tell them not to be complacent with losing. Ownership doesn’t care about winning, which makes the front office not care about winning, which leads to the coaches not caring about winning, which leads to players not caring about winning.
it isn’t difficult to take a stance supporting women like Rusty did. yet it’s notable because it just does not typically happen from your other favorite creators. always wish you nothing but success man. smart analysis and a passionate guy. and most importantly someone with integrity
Detroit fans and players keep your heads up . There is definitely talent on your team and as a Jazz fan i feel for yah
Can you envision any deals with the Raptors? And Merry Christmas 🎅
I think a ton of people in these comments forget how bad those 2011 bobcats were. They used to have debates about whether they could beat college teams. That team had a young core of kemba and biyombo. The best player was bad porno……
This pistons team is constructed like garbage where it’s like they threw a bunch of talented kids together and let them run amok. Guys like Stewart might look bad in a game like this but he’s actually pretty good and could be big factor coming off the bench for a contender but instead he plays in a system where you’re not even sure who the team is trying to build around unless they think they’re trying to rebuild to 2004 pistons team😂😂
I remember back then that they argued Anthony Davis and Kentucky could take them.
They are probably going to break the bobcats record at this point. Which is sad in a way because it's the only time people really talk about bobcats.
Brother I like you because I can see you talk for long stretches without edits
Respect to you my brother
I love your work
The problem people have with the Brunson comment is not that he’s not championship number 1 it’s how they treat him in general, they treat him like a sub allstar. Also don’t do this cop out saying it’s because she’s a woman, they attack literally every ESPN person for saying the same thing about brunson
Yeah weird take. I like rusty but that came off pretty hamfisted
It was so unnecessary after a stretch of excellent play. Brunson overcomes doubters time and time again though lets see how he responds. I don’t understand how that comment could be made though and media heads still push Donovan Mitchell to NY. Knick coverage is so unserious
Yea definitely a copout. They roast everyone on ESPN with a take. They’ll roast Rusty too in some videos based of his takes. If you have a take just be prepared to defend it and move on. Stop with the I have a vagina so I can’t be critiqued nonsense.
@@liferealgoodthat’s not what Rusty is addressing. It’s the content of the comments. If they disagree that fine. They bring her sex into the conversation to disqualify her opinion.
@@bentaft8791 Who? Who is they?
There was a FanDuel screenshot that someone bet $40 with a possibly $40k payout for the Pistons to not win another game this season 🤣
Might be the first player in the modern era to take that rookie qualifying offer and leave
they just lost to the salt lake city stars
It blows my mind how bad they are because they have a fairly talented team between Cade Ausar Ivey and Duren and then they have good shooters like sasser Harris burks bogdanovic and even Stewart has shot well
you are vastly overrating the talent
they aren’t 25-game-losing-streak bad, but they are definitely among the worst 3, 4 teams in the league
@@SomeChink I’m not saying they’re a play in team talent wise, but they definitely shouldn’t be on this losing streak or even be the worst team in the league like they should be better then Washington and San Antonio
Bro as someone who watches every pistons game it made me lol that u suggested this had something to do with tanking. We are trying to win every game, believe it.
They just don't know how to do basic things. Honestly, I don't know how most of them got to this level of basketball except on pure talent and/or physical gifts. I stopped watching them when I saw full games with players running to the other end of the court after every shot and not even trying for rebounds. Maybe they've corrected that but that shouldn't happen with any professional team.
I've watched almost every minute of the Spurs this year. The "Wemby doesn't get the ball enough" narrative is nonsense. He gets it more than anyone on that team BY FAR. You can see it in his usage rating. They were complaining about him not getting the ball during that Bulls game 1) when his teammate had just made an easy floater, 2) when Wembanyama had camped out at the three point line, where he's quite literally one of the worst in the entire NBA, and 3) when the defender was in position to intercept the pass. The Bulls front court players were bullying him out of position. It doesn't help him to blame his teammates instead of him just working on being better at getting position. People want to believe the issue is his teammates because Wembanyama hasn't shown what they thought he would yet. Another thing he was supposed to do was be able to create his own shot off the dribble. I have MAYBE seen him do that like 4 times, and that's being generous. People throw out this "generational talent" phrase without any justification. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But I'd say to look at the Bulls the year before Jordan and the year after Jordan or the Cavs before Lebron and after Lebron. Those guys had immediate massive impacts on winning.
This is a point that I don’t think enough people think about. The longer the streak goes on, the harder it’s probably gonna be to break the streak, which is now currently at 26 as of my comment on Christmas Eve. The longer the streak goes on, whoever they play is gonna play like they’re playing the prime Warriors, Big 3 Heat or Michael Jordan Bulls cuz they don’t wanna be the team who ends Detroit’s streak. Detroit is gonna need some god level RNG to end this streak
This is Cade Cunningham's second season technically. They have 3 frontcourt big men who don't stretch the floor. I'm not surprised they're the worst team in NBA history.
thanks for speaking out for her at the end, it’s something that needed to be said
Wemby requesting a trade????🤣
Yea I didn’t get why people were upset about the Jalen Brunson comments. As a mavs fan I love Brunson, man has definitely shown he is much better than he’s draft pick and he’s a fringe all star at least. But we all know that that Knicks team is missing something and Brunson as as your number 1 option won’t get you there unless the rest of the roster plays out of their minds. People have been saying it, but rusty is right. A women said so now people have an issue with it. It’s dumb honestly
Bro you forgot Thompson twin 😭
Crazy part is Cade is a baller.
9:09 Jeremy Sochan hasn’t played point for 3 weeks at this point. Like that argument, yeah it’s bad but they’re not doing that still.
the bobcats i think have worst win percentage, but they won 7 teams in the lockout season. Worst record is the 73 sixers at 9-73
True but bobcats were so bad there literally was discussion if they could even beat a college team 😂😂
If you were watching back then it was BAAAADDD lol
Pistons honestly need to undergo the process. Trade all their recent young draft picks (you couldn’t put into words the amount of draft capital they would get back), fire Monty no matter how big that cap hit is, maybe if you’re the owner fire the GM, and start this thing over completely from scratch with the scraps of the other 29 teams.
10:29 - No, she didn’t say that.
She said Jalen Brunson can’t be the #1 on a championship team because he’s small and proceeded to say that you aren’t winning with a small guy as your #1. Which is objectively false, Steph Curry, Chauncey Billups, Dwyane Wade, Isiah Thomas are all examples of this. If she had said unlikely, it would have been a valid take, but she based Brunson not being a #1 based on his height rather than his skill. Also, it’s disrespectful to all the small guards that could have been a #1 on a championship team but didn’t because of circumstances (Westbrook, CP3, Iverson)
And yes, while I agree that there are a lot of people that jumped on her because she’s a women with an opinion, I strongly disagree that this was a good opinion. At the very least, it was an opinion that she did a bad job at elaborating with.
Becky hammon is right though undersized guards cant get a team to a chip
Isiah thomas was undersized and led his pistons too back to back championships in 89-90. Yes the pistons were a Great team on both sides of the court but he was the clear number 1 scoring option and the best player on that team. But besides him no other small guatd
@@joel8692 thats the pint rusty was making
The Pistons right now are the perfect argument against the lottery and gifting awful franchises the most talented players.
Cunningham, unless he risks it all on his 5th year option, is stuck there for what... 7 to 9 years? All this loosing will be really bad for his developement as a player and his reputation.
And it is not as if the Pistons suddenly turned into a shitshow. They have been bad on as an oragnisation for a decade. But as a reward, they get another Top 3 pick, they can ruin.
Hopefully, someone offers Cade a 1+2 deal as an unrestricted free agent, so he can get out ASAP. But there seems to be a bro code between the GMs, not to offer short deal with lots of player options to unrestricted free agents...
I've been thinking is this really the worst team in nba history, it might be but part of me thinks that the level of competition in the league has stepped up so much that really bad teams like the pistons, wizards and spurs don't got a shot against even the average teams.
Nah the pistons and spurs and alot of recent bad teams are so bad because they're blatantly tanking and not even trying to win so they can get top picks in the draft. It's so blatant that the sixers even Created a name for there style of tanking and even used it to get the fans to buy into it and be patient and keep buying tickets to the games until the process was complete. The sixers rebranded loosing games on purpose to "trust the process"
Pistons-Spurs Finals confirmed
Surely you just forgot to mention Bojan in your “real NBA players list” for the Pistons?
Cade is doing great for my fantasy team at least. That's all I care about.
Watching this after Alvini's review of the Pistons for the last 15 years just shows there has been TOO many problems. Im talking they need HARD reset. Overhaul the roster and front office, sell the team, Thanos this bitch and click the big red button its over and no coming back
I’m not sure if Jalen can lead them to a ring so why people so mad at her lol
Someone compile a gametape of their last 10 games and I'll watch it and give a opinion on what needs to be added and removed to make them competitive. Problem is i can't tell if the pistons even want to win, they always seem to be tanking for a pick.
Brunson can be a first option in a finals team if you mix him with the right components being great shooters and defenders and some dirty players like Detroit or golden state had to protect their smaller stars
Idk why it’s so hard to understand. ESPN love generating clickbait. That’s all this was. Brunson can be a #1 option on a title contending team. The team currently isn’t a title contender. I think they need at least two more players. Preferably a 3-D wing, and a backup PF.
Jalen Brunson is closer to Fred VanVleet than a guy like Tyreese Haliburton, and I don’t even know if Hali can be a number 1 on a championship team. No one is saying he’s a bad player, but who are you kidding. He could never be the #1
I don't watch piston games so any fans would know more than me but what is the issue? Players,coaching,management or a combination? Cause this is getting sad
Pistons' been garbage ever since they broke up the Shaq and Kobe duo
Coming up on one of the worst draft classes of all time, Pistons are destined to replace Sacramento as the leagues greatest poverty franchise for the next 10 years.
They drafted 3 straight lottery guards who can’t shoot. Team building suicide in the 2020’s.
Expansion era of the NBA.
How did people forget about the bobcats? Cavs? 76ers?
How dare you we at 26.
Streets won’t forget Pistons vs Jazz 12/21/23
Walt Frazier did it for the Nicks
Its hilarious reading this comment section comparing Wembys situation to LeFraud's rookie year😂😂 yall just cant help yourselves by interjecting that dude into any and every basketball situation. Its sickening.
Honestly Purdue or Kansas could hold their own against this Pistons team
Yeah, there are a lot of pretty good teams this year, but whatever you think of the players, Detroit with even a vaguely competent coach has four or five wins and not two. Yes, sell the team, fire the coach and everyone in the front office, and at least have open tryouts or something. There are guys sitting on their sofa watching that are better than some of your rotation guys.
To me, this nonsense proves Coach Pop is done. The modern game has left him behind and he's shown no interest in innovating
Nah pop just doesn't have David Robinson, Duncan, Parker , manu anymore and it's been a long time since he's had to start from zero and build a good team. He'll be back in a few seasons when victor developes
@@joel8692 soo Wemby is just gonna develop with no effort? Pop has to put in the work to develop that young talent, it's not only on Wemby. He didn't draft himself. He doesn't implement these terrible game plans that don't involve him in the offense for extended stretches of every game
He already fumbled Kawhi and now he's fumbling Wemby 🤦♂️
Hey, you gotta put some respect on Zekes name. 4 guys with 9k assists. Magic, Stockton, Oscar and Zeke. Youre talking about a legend. The Badboys an ensemble... so what were the showtime lakers, Bird Celtics and Jordan Bulls? You know, the teams that all had 5 hall of famers on them at points in their runs. And he beat them all.
Zeke was the superstar, he was the one that made them the bad boys. He took an "ensemble" against superteams and won. One of the best point guards in history and arguably the best of his era with Stock and Magic in the league.
He also didnt have Karl Malone, James Worthy, Larry Bird, Kareem... if Zeke goes to one of those teams and plays with legends, like all the other legends got to do in that era, we talk about that man differently. He led a team that was hated by the nba officials to back to back championships and really got robbed out of a 3peat and he did it against 3 of the best dynasties in NBA history. Steph had way more fucking help than Zeke, so you really need to switch that narrative around. Zeke is that guy thay you're giving Steph credit for being
Zeke definitely deserves credit for his performance vs the Lakers in the finals game 6 when he scored 25 on an injured ankle to win the championship. Also Steph definitely had more help on the warriors when KD was on the team but the warriors from 2015-2016 that won a ring and set a record with 73-9 and lost in the finals vs cavs was a super team. The pistons actually can be compared player for player with pre KD warriors and they match up good.
I’d say Bojan and Stewart are nba level players on the pistons too
Watch Ja Morant get more wins this season than the Pistons and the Wizards combined. It's gonna happen.
Stupid comment dude delete it!
Can a young Lebron bring this team to playoff? That would be an interesting what if.
As a Spurs fan the most frustrating thing is how awful Sochan is. It takes balls to dye your hair and wear Rodman's number and then have a defensive FG% on par with Trae Young's and in the bottom third of the league. Feels like the Sochan PG experiment was Pop hoping he'd find some way to be able to get Sochan on the floor but he's useless and the only thing he does competently is shoot FTs. Having Primo and Sochan as your lottery picks in back to back years makes the front office look almost as incompetent as the coach.
Pop trying to force it, everyone can see it
Pop thinks he’s smarter than he really is
Trae actually hustles his ass off on defense now. He's just too small to properly contest shots against anyone taller than 6'2", and the defensive scheme the Hawks run does him no favors either. He's a better defender than the stats would have you believe.
curry like 6'4 wade is around the same height. dont leave wade county out rusty
Yea people often forget Wade. And honestly Billups was around .4 from leading his championship team in scoring.
Isiah thomas is 6,1" and he was the clear number 1 scoring option in both the pistons championship series . The pistons were up in the series 3-2 but the Lakers had big lead in the 4th and they looked like they were gonna tie the series especially cause Isiah left the game with an ankle injury. He. Ane back and exploded with 25 points in the 4th
Watch them turn it around and go 10-0 cause rusty made a video on em 🤣🤣🤣
All this just to get the 5th overall pick
What’s worse? Being a pistons fan in 2020s or a Cleveland Browns fan in the 2010s. I say the browns but pistons could definitely take it.
Monty is not a great coach he an ok coach and he dont know what to do with this team 🤦♂️
Did Ausar not play or something?
Spurs at Pistons January 10th!
2023 Pistons > 2016 76ers > 2011 Bobcats
Never seen this much attention on a bad team before lol. Like imagine going viral for being so bad at your job?
I agree with coach Hammond.
Pistons aren’t even tanking, they’re just terrible. And still gonna end up with the 3rd overall pick somehow.
Because of Injuries and inconsistency of most players CADE & BOJAN are ballers the rest of the team been playing horrible