Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna The Golden Country - REVIEW
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- The story DLC for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is finally here, giving us a look at the world of Alrest 500 years ago. But how well did Monolith Soft manage to condense their sprawling 100+ hour RPG formula and is this a story deserving of its own stand alone game? Find out in our review!
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I guess you could say the country was TORNApart.
Top Doge1999 lololol
Fuck, that was intentional, wasn't it?
GODDAMMIT BARB!!
Top Doge1999 waka waka waka
Bullshido!
Jon: "Mythra can... attempt to cook"
Mythra: (with death stare) "What did you say?"
Ian Hsieh Where's pyra when you need her...
drpepperman2765 Pyra wasn't "born" yet. Sigh
Mystery Food X.
No core crystal = no gotcha system?
Wrong!
Mythra's cooking is the new gotcha system. (Maybe it's like Primrose's bewildered dance?) lol
@@IanHsieh drpepperman was joking
Xenoblade 2: The Good DLC
damn right
Xenoblade 2: The shitty sidequest DLC.
Wrong even though community is kind of annoying.
THIS REVEIW VIDEO: "Xenoblade (Chronicle) 2 was one of my favorite games of last year..." NINTENDO 09.13.18 DIRECT DISCUSSION: "Last year we only got Zelda and Mario...." ME: "whatever you say lol"
xenoblade isn't a game it is auto attack bullshit
Chris Martin Shut the fuck up.
Chris Martin Looks like someone didn’t play past Chapter 2. Mechanics are added slowly, but once it gets going, there is SO much depth to the battle system. I have a weird thing with RPGs where I don’t normally like fighting enemies too often, but this is the rare case that I loved the battle system and wanted to attack everything I saw.
@@yoshiminer4289 More like somebody didn't play the game at all and just judged it straight away
Or they were trolling and we both took the bait
@@mushroomyploom Trolling. Nobody's that stupid
“Lacking in compassion”
Jin is my favorite character in all of the dlc and I haven’t even played it yet
As somebody that has beaten the Torna DLC, I highly recommend people do not play this first, it spoils so many of the good plot twists and eludes to a lot of things that more context is needed. The thing that makes the story in Xenoblade Chronicles 2 work so well is that it slowly peels back what happened in the past. Basically I'm saying that if you play this first, some of the key storytelling elements will not hit as hard. Technically if you play the base game, you know the big key points of what will happen, but there is plenty to see and learn in the past that the base game does not go into (and even goes into more detail on). Though I wished it didn't end so soon (it took me 20 hours). I recommend playing this after beating the main game. This reuses some music in the base game, and sometimes those songs had very important meaning in the main game and are used for other purposes here (which is OK). Really fun DLC, wish there was more.
I agree, but at the same time it would be a really interesting experience to play Torna first. Instead of being surprised by certain events, you'd understand and be like OH FINALLY
Chapter 10 intro would still hit like a brick, though. And the fact that Torna is a stand-alone DLC is also a smart marketing strategy. If you get new players interested in the DLC and they play it, they might get a taste for the main game. As an additional incentive, the stand-alone expansion has a key code for the entire expansion pass.
I enjoy the DLC. 30+ Hours with out the Super Bosses. But i missed a third titan. Like Judicium or the Prime Mor Ardain.
Question, how do you change to the main story instead of Torna?
Thanks for the comment I'm going to get the main game first
The Community seems like the feature the Original Xenoblade did. I'm interested
Not nearly as detailed and descriptive, though.
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel really? Dang, I wished it was.
Yeah I'm excited for that almost more than anything else, Xenoblade 1's affinity chart really made me care about the world and how all the characters connected in it, encouraging me to do way more sidequests than I did in XC2
@@chuckbatman5 Agreed. The only side quests I ever did up to now was the Blade and DLC quests.
The. Affinity chart when you can change it that was fun
I think my favorite part of Xenoblade 2 Torna the Golden Country is how your party interacts with the community. In XC2 base, your party rarely interacts with the people they are helping (mainly due to the fact that there are multiple party members + and infinite amount of blades) meaning any optional character development is restricted to the Blade Quests (which focus more on the blade than the party) and the Heart-to-hearts. However, in Torna, I was shocked just how integrated the party was. Quests weren't to-do lists. They were actual conversations, amongst people with very different ideals and philosophies. Addam would know several of his subjects, Mythra would always chime in with her sarcasm to how stupid a situation sounds, and it was great! It made the world feel lived in. These weren't just NPCs, they were people that your party knows personally, and wants to help. ON TOP OF THAT, most quests would end with a last conversation with just the party addressing the lore of the world, character development, and/or the themes the game is trying to explore. One time after building a shelter for the Tornan Capital, Lora has a private chat with Haze and Jin about wanting to build a house to support war orphans, and Haze says it will be like they have a big family. Another time, when trying to play matchmaker, the guys of the party start teasing Hugo about being the age to start dating. Another time, Minoth and Jin have a conversation about atoning for the past, especially from the perspective of a flesh eater, and yet another time Addam and Hugo discuss the incredible pressures of being part of royalty. These (and many more) are optional scenes of incredible development that happen at almost every side quest, and become more and more prevalent as the game progresses. Its absolutely phenomenal, and it made me fall in love and try and do as many quests as I can, and it shows. I'm gonna take on the final boss tomorrow, and I'm at 26 hours.
Great review. Only disappointing Derrick didn’t do this review since he did the main game so that we could get a review of the entire expansion pass that seemed genuine
Wow, I can’t believe Gamexplain Best TGC in one minute!
My dream is a Pokémon game that takes Xenoblade as an inspiration
Monsters roaming around (but still separate random encounters in grass maybe just patches that are small or easily avoidable so the player can avoid if they don’t want and can seek out if they do want), vast beautiful land (maybe not too vast that it feels empty), a classic Pokémon adventure with full 3D camera control, a real world to explore with all kinds of Pokémon rare and common, and awesome Legendary encounters (Dungeon dwelling ones, roaming ones, quest based ones)
Remember the feeling of running around Johto, in a patch of grass you suddenly hear eccentric music as you encounter a Pokémon....it’s a legendary electric tiger looking creature or fire lion looking creature that absolutely awes you
Imagine that scenario in 3D
Or climbing the Sky Tower to find an all powerful dragon (Rayquaza) waiting for your challenge.
Anyway sorry for the geek rant, it’s just this gameplay makes me think of my dream game
I've had the exact same thoughts since playing Xenoblade 2! Except I would remove random encounters, especially in caves. Anyway a Pokemon game taking place in a world as big and varied as alrest would just be perfection. Here's to hoping for the 2019 game!
Yeah but not the same Grafiks in handheld:D
No random encounters. I want to wander into a cave and find a horde of lv. 80 Noiverns that kill me in seconds during the first stretch of the game.
I share your dream. Unfortunately I don't think Game Freak would be able to milk the franchise as much as they do if they have to put in that much effort into worlds every two years ;(
Natural86 Yeah it’s definitely tough....I think it could be possible over time, say after the 2019 games, when they have an engine to work off of, or even later on as they get better at developing for the switch, as they get more employees, as the technology gets more efficient in the development process
And maybe things work out to where all parties involved understand a delayed game is only delayed temporarily but a bad game released early is bad forever. And that it could be in their best interests to aim for 3 years of development time put into a new Gen or whatever it takes to make the best game
*desperately holds onto dream*
I'm so incredibly hyped for this, and I haven't even finished my new game+ playthough.
Whirlwhind1 I'm starting my NG+ after going through Torna. I want to see how different my perception of the story will be
I still have to start my NG plus session...
I'm hesitant to start new game+ because I don't wanna lose my story/sidequest progress
@@jaidens.g.1920 I believe your blades transfer offer as well as items
@MonsterKat NG+ only takes about 9 hours.
If there are any sad moments, I will be TORNApart.
I know where the exit is..
Then please see yourself out
“Lacking in compassion.”
LMAOOO
gonna need to use his powers for that one
@@227someguy Pandy would be proud
Jins a fuckin alpha male
Why is embargo up an hour before the actual release?
So you can watch the reviews before buying the DLC.
Why would you question something being pro consumer?
Cause some countries already have it. Like,here in Germany we have it since 13 hours
Lora fights for her friends
Ike echo confirmed
But can you sing your Campfire Song-Song around the campfire?
Didn't they say the game was half the length of 2? 12 hours with half of it on sidequests is a bit slim huh.
They're bullshitting as usual. These people rush through games so they can get their review out when the embargo lifts to gain that profit.
Just because they rushed doesn't mean it's wrong as long as they beat the game.
wht shud i play 1st, torna or xc2?
@@muhammadsyazlisazali Well you won't be able to play Torna till the 21st so go do XC2 now if you want or you could wait.
SadSynth
Jesus Really? money well spent
The problem with Jon's reviews is that he barely talks about the music, and for games like the Xenoblade series, that's a serious crime
It sucks
@@galacticembryo4413 no u
The new tracks are incredible! They definitely should've mentioned them more. They just keep rolling out some of the best music in gaming. (In my opinion of course, don't get all triggered).
The new Gormott daytime theme is incredible.
I wish Derrick reviewed this. Jon's review wasn't bad, but Derrick is a bigger fan of the series.
Don't forget me
Yer done
Kwame Oliver THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME
CAPTAIN!
SEE HERE!
FLORA HEALS AN ACING SOUL
I’m really feeling Elma’s adorable face crank up to *over 9000*
4:31 Eight orb elemental burst!?!?!?!?
you make orbs with just specials
Also, it is entirely possible in the main game.
Xenoblade chronicles 2: Birth of power. Another dlc expansion that gives the complete origin story on almalthus and Malos on how almalthus reached Elysium and awoken malos and started the aegis war all those years ago...
Jin's japanese voice actor is something else (clouds voice)
Less than 30 minutes left! I'm really feeling it
DAMN RIGHT
I like your attitude!
Just bought this and I am so excited
It seems to me like all of the content in TGC is equivalent to about two chapters of the main story.
I love how they released this as stand alone on its own cart, should give it more life for the future. Aaaand i still have the main game on it's big collector's box unplayed, so many games to play... (wish my kid self could play all this)
The community block I think is taken from from Xenoblade X, you need to level up the BLADE level before you can progress story. Many people hated that system lol. And the community system is also similar to affinity chart from Xenoblade 1 dan Xenoblade X
I'm not sure if this was asked so forgive me if this was answered already. I'm new to the franchise and really want to play Xenoblade 2. Because Torna is DLC, should I play the main game first? I heard Torna is a prequel of sorts being 500 years in the past.... does play order matter?? Thanks!
You'll be spoiled either way.
After finishing Torna I think it would be better to play the main game first, but you could play this first if you really want to spend 10 extra bucks
@@eeeeggnog._. Thanks!
the season bundle that includes this golden country dlc and all others dlcs worth every penny, so good.
i wanted to get this but man that 60$ price tag for me in canada is too high for a dlc thats almost the price of the original game an i heard the story is only 12 hours
The story is disappointing though.
When should the download happen if you have the season pass, does it come out at 12am
10 pm pst, 1 am est.
Thanks dude
Jin is a savage.
I'm only 10 hours into xenoblade 2 but I just cant because this season is crazy and i bought Dragon quest 11, shadow of tomb raider and forza horizon 4 in the past week ... I will have to get this but I'm sure I should play the main campaign first. I now own about 7 or 8 switch games and have never finished a single one. I wish I had friends to loan it to so it wasn't just sitting around but I always wanna play xenoblade 2 again. I loved what I played so far and this dlc looks pretty fun as well. I think in the original xenoblade chronicles on wii I had like 120 hours in and didn't even finish it! Love these massive jrpgs we are getting lately.
You should definitely finish the game first before playing this. Can't say enough how good the game was.
So I have a question if I buy the normal xenoblade chronicles 2 game and then the expansion pass will I be able to play the xenoblade chronicles 2 torna the golden country game or do I need to buy both games I’m really confused cause I want to definitely buy base game and torna looks really cool but I don’t know if I want to buy two different games.
I'm calling BS that he beat the game in 12hrs. The 9-11hr mark is when u hit lvl4 community wall which requires about 3-5hrs assuming fast travel everywhere and are somewhat efficient.
Nintendo and GF should give the Pokemon franchise to MonolithSoft for a core RPG experience made with this engine, it would be fantastic!
No. Gamefreak and TPC would never do that...
Tyrant King
they should, it would easily become the best 3D action-based RPG experience for the series. Hell, if they are greedy , and they added an online component (close to the online battles in XCX) it could become an amazing MMORPG-like Pokemon game
Maybe then Pokemon would finally deliver a more hardcore experience
Luis Angeles That’s a seriously great idea. Imagine Pokémon with an actual compelling story and interesting characters.
No o don't infect Pokemon this the poorly dressed anime girls.
Quick one. If I were to buy the physical copy would it include all the paid DLC for Xenoblade 2 normal game or would I also need to still buy the season pass? Obviously I k ow I could buy just the season pass and get the game digitally but I prefer physical copies myself
I used to think that Octo Expansion was a good DLC, but my gosh Torna is blowing expectations out of the water!
I got Xenoblade Chronicles 2, i haven't started yet because i want to finish Xenoblade Chronicles (Wii) first, im near the end, i have to fight Gadolf, this standar prequel story will have physical version to? i mean the game card cartridge of "The Golden Country? chapter???
Question, of you own the torna dlc cartridge, do you have the full game?
Just brought physical copy on Amazon for 49 bucks i caught it on sale because normal price for this game is between 89 to 110
Personally I found it hard going back to the main game after the much improved combat of Torna. I love being able to easily switch between three characters in battle and nine total with the press of a button when not in combat that going back to just Rex felt bland.
Personally I'm just excited about the story. I though xb2 was literally one of the best stories, I've seen in anything in about 10 years. This is my top 5 stories (all media) in the last 10 years
1) Bioshock
2) Xenoblades
3)Dragonage Orgins
4)East Bound and Down (TV)
5)BBC's Uncle (TV)
Big Black Cock's Uncle? Lol
Anyways you have quite a variety of tastes in gaming.
If you want... At least what I consider the best story I've had the grace of even experiencing... I highly recommend Xenogears.
i tried it. on my vita but it felt a little too immature. Also the cinematics in more modern games really help to pull u in, which xenogears doesn't have. Did u play it recently or year ago when u were younger? I do find a lot of games, like say final fantasy. Are real cool, when your like 8-13. But when u get older, u start to see that they're mostly recycled cliches stolen mainly from the original star wars.
The only one here I agree with is Xenoblade, and that's specifically with Xenoblade 1, not X or 2. Bioshock was eh, Dragon Age Origins was god awful with it's story, and I never heard of the last two. Also, how was Gears immature? I don't even care much for Xenogears and found it mature and well written.
If you like jrpgs I definitely recommend persona 5.
Played the base game but didn’t get to finish it. Should I get it again or just start off with torna?
As someone who didn't "get" the convoluted intricacies of the combat in XBC2, do you think this overhaul to the combat will help me? I really wanted to like the game but I struggled a lot.
it's not that hard. it just seems overwhelmingly complicated at first.
how much did you play?
for a start. keep checking the top right of the screen and follow the elemental combo. if there's water, use water etc.
some people thought you'd have to use the opposite element. sadly they don't really explain it ingame.
when you finished a combo. there will be an elemental orb floating around the enemy. so, next combo you want to end with a different element, to get many orbs on the enemy.
on long fights you can later break those orbs using the opposite element for massive damage. idk... sucks to explain in plain text. i'm sure you find a tutorial video showing you exactly how.
it is really really super satisfying to pull of these combos, obliterating some bosses. if you do it right you can pretty much burn them from like 40% hp to 0 with one finisher combo and wake the neighbors. lol
@@MrGnuh I think I only got to chapter 4 or something. I had a really hard time fighting Malos. After finally beating him I kinda was turned off
well they did add easy mode you could try
HELP. I want to get this game physically and I never bought the season pass, if I get this game on a cart will it also come with the previous dlc like the Shulk blade and new quests or do I have to download the season pass? At which point I might as well get it digitally.
yes, the rest of the pass comes as a download code with the physical version
cabbage scented candle YEEESS that’s such a relief. Thanks a lot mate.
Are there new blades introduced in this? Just trying to figure out if I should save core crystals.
You can't use core crystals in this DLC
great review. Also, i know this is DLC but it presents an interesting idea of giving players a shorter, more condensed and faster jrpg experience.
Guys, what do you think - since it's a prequel(?), do you think it can be played BEFORE Xenoblade Chronicles 2? For some reason, the characters in this stand alone DLC seem much more interesting than in the main game. Would following the narrative this way work well?
you can, but it would make the experience quite different. It's really your choice
I would recommend playing this first. I wish I could have I would have appreciated 2 a lot more.
so can we only buy this and play it without buying or playing the main story????
it is a bit more expensive that way but yes you can buy this as a standalone game.
It still amazes me that he got to level 50 in 12 hours.
I love this Torna DLC, the soundtrack and gameplay is amazing! The characters too, they are perfect addition to XC2!
I wish that the drivers could used the blade's blades. It feels to me like they don't have a connection like in the main game, since they don't really need each other
Can't wait any longer for Torna! Started downloading the second I got up
Did you rush thru the game? 12 hours? Shit I'm over 20 hours doing all side quest, leveling every blade, exploring every world, etc.
Hey can anyone tell me if I get this dlc can I swap between driver and blade in the base game ?
Good review. Sounds great, and it's convinced me to get the season pass and dip back into Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Sounds like a similar approach that CD Projekt Red took with the Witcher 3 DLC. This is the way to do it.
And just think: this whole thing is on top of all the other stuff you get from the expansion pass in the main game. Sure it's a little short, but it's still well worth the price of admission.
1am EST, 10pm Pacitic everyone. Who's hyped?
I gotta stay up so I can at least download it so its ready for tomorrow.
I purchased the expansion pass when I got xenoblade 2. I checked and its asking me to purchase this dlc. Is that a glitch or do i need to wait until 1am est?
What are you talking about? Like did you go to the eShop and look up Torna??? Because it'll be a download on the main game I believe at 1 am est, 10 pm pst.
@@Blazyng1987 I know you've probably figured this out but press + (when you're on the home screen and the game highlighted) make sure you go to software update. You can get the download from there
It's a hell of a lot cheaper so this is going to be my way of discovering the world of xenoblade and seeing if I like it.
HOW DO I PLAY HELP
XetaJTS wait
Sorry about that, just really excited haha
Any news on if we get malos or jin as blades as a reward for beating it?
While i love the fact the japanese dub is an option there's something about those scottish/english voices that tickles my pickle
I can tell by this guy's voice that he knows how to build a log cabin with his bare hands.
Can you buy this standalone without having to buy the main game since I'd like to see if I like it before going all in on the main game?
Yes.
On the 21st, yes
Can I not switch around the party members? Being locked to only being able to play Lora/Jin/Haze seems boring.
Anything unlock in the main game after beating it?
Why do RPGs force you to do quest/side-missions to continue the story? This should end.
U dont need to do them in XenoBlade 2. U might end up under leveled. But u could always lower the battle level difficulty.
The review said Torna makes you have a certain number of bonds before moving on in the story, which basically means doing quests.
XB2 doesn't do that?
I havn't played it.
xb2 doesn't do that. if u havnt played xb2, u should. The story was so good, i thought and I usually find JRGP storylines to be immature aand cliche.
Did you like Octopath Traveller my brother loved it, but it didn't look like my kind of game. I don't like random battles.
Octopath is OK. If you're into old school JRPGs, you'd probably like it. The plot's alright, though it ends up looking messy near the end with how everything meshes together, and the characters aren't bad, but they tend to not really have any connection to group them together/ Personally, I'd recommend the Bravely games over Octopath, but Octopath isn't bad by any means.
Ok liked a lot that’s all I need to know sorry but I’m trying to avoid all info for this game I wanna go in blind
Christian Perez not like we don’t already know how it ends though
ok can you take things from this DLC back to the main game if you want?
aww i was hoping for those who had like the main game thered be like, wiht the challenges and all. which are ungodly difficult to win and get fiora and shulk to the main game, tired for 3 hourse and coudlnt do it. but anyway i think that would be cool for those who baught both ya know?. that way ok you just wanted his heres the whole package enjoy the awesome package, you baught both, well then once you do finish this, heres a little something extra. like items and/or some of the characters as blades
Is the original story available in this version?
Although the community system is lengthy, I think we can all agree that it's way better than the mercenary system in the base game. Anyone who did Usula's level 5 affinity quests can attest to that.
Is Dunban and Zeke's voice actor Addam's as well?
No, they all have different va.
Would it makes sense to play this first and then the main game so you have the proper background understanding for the flashbacks? Or do you need to have played the main game to proper understand the extension?
you can do either, but personally I think it would be better to play the main game first. But that said, I also think it would be very interesting to play Torna first.... it would definitely be a different experience
this is way better than the base game. After finishing the base game, I don't hope for 3 but with this, I really want 3 to come out soon. Are they the same profucers ?
One more week for physical release
Only 12 hours? Quick question, how long did it take you to beat the full game?
I thought I was buying xenoblade 2 and I bought this I think, I’m so confused because I bought a physical game
Just started playing this yesterday. Was instantly reminded of how epic the music in xenoblade is!
I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it...I NEED IT! 1 more minute...till the download is done!
I like John. Giving a balanced review, and calling FF 7, 9, 10 & 10-2, 12 Zodiac, and we all knew about 15.
I really hope future xenoblade games will be more like torna the golden country
How do you actually like.... launch the dlc in game?
At the bottom of the base game's title screen, there is a new "Torna ~ The Golden Country" option.
Clicking it will bring you to Torna's title screen. (Yes, there is a separate title screen.)
What is next for Monolith? Xenoblade X port? X sequel? Or the new fantasy IP?
i want what the text on the e-shop stated when i bought the season pass. "a brandnew adventure which will take place in elysium" give me a direct continuation of the story pretty please :3
So, what would be better to play first? Main game or dlc
I would say play the main game first. But if you really want you could play this first
I find it so incredibly annoying that I have to do so many sidequests. Its exhausting to play, in my opinion.
I want them to do another dlc expansion like this...maybe one on malos or perhaps on the architect but I just want more stories in alrest
I like the voice acting a lot still...
Better than the main game's
Jin was one of my favourite characters from xc2
Can't fucking wait
Jin is best character. Then Zeke and Mikhail
@@Tyranatronus personally my top 3 are
1. Nia
2. Zeke
3. Jin
Does anything transfer from Torna to the main game when you beat it?
Good to know.
What a beautiful video. Thanks for posting this.
this game is worth getting for the battle theme alone
I don't agree with your opinion on the Community Lv 4 requirement. You're playing an JRPG. If you're npt doing sidequests along the way (and I'm not saying you have to do everything) you're playing it wrong, I'm sorry. It's better to do sidequests and unlock the blades' Affinity charts to grow and explore instead of mindless grinding. If you do everything before the requirement comes up, you're basically at Lv 3. Thus, the ending is behind 1-2 hours of more sidequests which at that point you are at a high level and don't need to grind or explore at all. Plus, all the sidequests you get from Auresco, the capital of Torna have many dialogues between the party (effectively removing the need of Hearts-to-hearts to see the interactions of the party).
does any of the quality of life enchantment come to the main game ??
I want the Torna Battle Mechanics in Xenoblade 2’s base game...
As some one who has played xenoblade 1 X and 2 i have to say that this seems to feel different enough to for it to be xenoblade 3 and I recommend this before playing xenoblade 2.
So is torna it's own game or just a dlc? And if so can I buy the dlc and get this?
still don't how Malos came back and I still don't understand why Mythra had to create Pyra
I have never play any games of this franchise before. I got a Switch 2 weeks ago and now I really want to play it. Can I start with this one or do I have to follow a game order to know what's going on? Please anyone?
Xc2 first then xc2 torna is how they want you to play it in order