Apple River stabbing trial: Friend of victim testifies
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- čas přidán 1. 04. 2024
- Landon Weyer, friend of victim Isaac Schuman, took the stand in the Apple River stabbing trial today.
The trial of Nicolae Miu, the man accused of the deadly stabbing on the Apple River in 2022, continues Tuesday with witness testimony, a day after a graphic video was shown in court of the deadly fight on the Wisconsin river.
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Every single witness remembers everything that makes them look good, but nothing that makes them look bad.
They cannot agree to anything that puts them in a negative light. So much for telling the truth... I wonder if their lawyer advised them to do this.
He still got murder...but because of what how he acted
After.. how people act in this situation... never ever talk to the poilce
Never ever..
@@danhughes3626
He got “ murder” because he MURDERED 🔪🩸🩸
I think they all made up the stuff about the little girls...
This whole situation was avoidable. Alcohol never helps … yes, the teenagers were provoking it initially by name-calling … but when he grabbed those inner tubes that changed everything because they were not able to leave, and if it were me, I would not leave my innertube . Maybe he could have stabbed their tubes instead of stabbing them. They would’ve got the message across and he would not be going to prison for life. I don’t know how else to look at this except it’s just a horrific disaster all around for everyone.
I dont believe a word this guy says.
boy, these guys seem sooo frightened... I'm just a tiny little boy, thank goodness there were grown-ups around... please.
The video is the evidence.
I know! They all say they were scared…..its ridiculous……i hope when this is over,they are charged with at the very least assault with intent to do great bodily harm…minimum
I can't with these guys lol.
They are 17 years old and they're afraid until the 20 year old adults come over, lol. Like three years in age makes a difference. The only person in this whole scenario that I would consider an adult is the 53-year-old man being assaulted
@@markkulyas2418These big tough men felt much safer once they called the little girls to come to their rescue 😂
I do not believe that the defendant said ANYTHING about little girls.
He did! I know the defendant and he is a known pedophile
He was creeping under water
@@doragreen3887Looking for his friends PHONE, dumb bell! Try paying attention.
What do you think angered those kids? especially the girls.
He didn't. There's a Video showing it all
The more of this I watch, the more convinced I am that the teens should be charged with perjury..
Yes and assault…..they all say they were scared…..scared….give me a break
@@kelcritcarroll
The one who punched Nic 3 times admitted, while under oath, that he punched out of anger and not fear.
The other guy who got stabbed admitted, while on the stand, that he was attacking Nic when he got stabbed..
This trial is almost as much of a joke as the Rittenhouse trial was..
The should but this prosecution is a joke.
how he stabbed 5 people? And watch the video, he just stabbed one girl for no reason
@@james9531 he was getting violently mobbed by a drunken crowd who was accusing him of one the most vilest crimes in human society...stab first ask questions later at that point son
We gotta stop calling college age young adults "Kids". They are young adults folks this is NOT helping them.
And stop calling this idiot an old man because he isn’t!
Mr Miu called them kids in his taped police interview video on CZcams.
They weren't college kids when this happened. They were in high school. They were 17. So technically, they were kids.
Kids still exctly... mind's not fully developed..... but muis is....! An adult should know better..... unless mentally unstable and impaired !
17 is not an adult. 😂
You dont have to be 6 to be a kid. Theres little kids and then theres bigger kids. Still both kids.
If these witnesses are the “educated” future of nation……god help you!
Scary isn’t it.
100%
GOD help us from the “Leader of America 🇺🇸
That’s what’s SCARY.😬😳🤯 Let’s go Brandon, AWAY that is.
You guys wanted to be adults... you get adult consequences. The entitlement of this generation is mind-blowing
An adult consequence is being disemboweled & fatally stabbed? This man is obviously not sane and couldn’t control himself to a bunch of high schoolers. Crazed enough to disembowel and kill someone.
Every person who acted in this incident are guilty of this boys death. Especially the "blonde girl". There wasn't a single hero among any of them.
Yeah, that Madison was looking for a fight. She's as much a bully as those young men are.
If it had been a guy screaming up in his face and he punched them everyone would think that was ok. I agree, she was bullying too, and probably banked on being a female giving her carte blanche to do so, without repercussions.
@@1txlady1 From what I understand, Madison and the other girl laid hands on Mr. Miu first. Then Miu slapped Madison and that's when the "boys" started to smack him down in the water.
👿 you don’t bring a knife to a fight… unarmed to Kids
@trishbender7940 No, but you do bring one on the river ...lots of people carry pocket knives. Not a big deal.
All the kids are lying about looking for little girls .. not one mention it to the cops
yes that part was clearly made up
I’m glad other people can see thru this totally made up lie too.. And there is NO way that 6 fit high school (guy) students were scared of this one older man.. These boys were bullies.. Plain and simple!!!
Punks 😮
So I guess since you were bullied by the cool kids in school, I can see why you think this….but you are wrong. Feelings should not make you stab someone….bunch of woke libs on here….oh my feelings were hurt.😂😂
Does it really matter some guy stabs multiple people hits first brings a knife hits a women and you blame the teenagers right on lmao
Right, the big macho football player was scared of an overweight middle aged man
This happened two years prior to the trial. He’s probably grown since then.
That they instigated and harassed
@@YaYaPaBlaOh c’mon man, they were 17 year old football players.🙄 They weren’t scared of nuthin!
Big man talked big while him and his friends were attacking Mr. Miu.
@@YaYaPaBlaAnd he plays college football.
I bet this is the longest time in a long time this dude has spoken without saying "Bro!"
YEP!!! I have a 25 yr old son, thats his language , hey bro
This guy looks high in court
I bet your right!!!
He almost let a bro slip.
Right! They can barely string a sentence together.
They've all compared notes and saying same garbage.
Yup. Had a big team meeting to attempt to get one story going.
They've been coached
You can see everything they are saying happen in the video… what r u talking about??
@@Kaylee61132 apparently, you aren't paying close enough attention.🤦
@@Kaylee61132 They are terrible people
Kid tried every effort to avoid admitting that he was unemployed and still lived with his parents.
Why do they even ask that tho, seems irrelevant
Absolutely relevant.....he's drunk and stoned and is a dick
Lmao
@@elainekellogg6345 Speaks to morals and character.
@@rickiedeesnutz7318 has nothing to do with
These so called kids were drunk and High and instigated the whole incident! This guy on the stand is lying about what he is saying!
I'm noticing the body language, fidgeting, facial movements and constantly moving around.
Yup. The were all wasted and thought it would be funny to film bullying an old guy with snorkel. Idiots
@@handiable the body language is irrelevant - it tells you nothing because there is no possible way for you to know the cause of it.
Um no
the defendant approached them.
the defendant got violent first.
other people were literally telling him to go away - the exact opposite of instigating an incident.
You cannot change these facts by accusing other people of lying.
None of these kids have any respect for the court. They all lie like the jury’s full of idiots.
Right?! This scumbag couldn't even be bothered to comb his hair...
I hope the jury isn't a bunch of idiots like the supposed "adult" guy that came over and made the situation worse 😅
Never seen a kid with a beard before. Perhaps, you mean young adults (17-25 years old).
Agreed 💯
@@ccy931yeah, those kids escalated the situation, all their fault.
He didn't look scared in pic.😮
@toulor895 😮💨🙄
What a bunch of liars.
Agreed 💯
Were you there? You don’t know what the f..k happened. Stop passing judgment. And this lawyer is trying to get them to say something that else when they’ve already ANSWERED the damn question
I agree if you hear some answer it sounded well rehearse. The importance answers were I don't remember
@@annawalker4225 There's video. So yes they're liars.
Not one got together and got there story straight, the defense is killing them, exposing their lies. You can tell the state is just reaching. He's innocent. FREE NICK!
That blonde 'Madison Cohen' was the MAIN INSTIGATOR of the whole thing.
& Jawahn. They pretty much all had a hand in it then lied on the stand trying to sentence an innocent man to life. Shameful.
Every time one of the attorneys say they're going to play the video of the event you can see the witnesses cringing inside, knowing they're gonna be seen for what they really are which is the opposite to what they're trying to portray. Every time he says he doesn't remember he's lying by omission he gives himself away by what he does with his mouth.
Thank goodness for the video. If that wasn’t present at this man’s trial he would go to prison for life. He definitely was defending himself
Running up to a group of kids and starting a physical altercation over words is not defense.
@@SypherzClear self defense.
That teen that recorded the situation just showed how much of a bully they were VS the 1 older guy who was just minding his own business until the supposed 20 year old 'adult' made it worse and so the teenagers were all sitting on their high horse to attack. He showed these teens it was okay to do it. Thats my own option base on the video evidence and listening to every 'witnesses'. So don't make yourself a victim when your not kids. 😂
He ran in the woods and denied stabbing anyone. He kinda started this situation.
@@jasenbach2793 He didn't start it. He was just looking for his friend's phone when the gang started harassing him.
This defence lawyer is outstanding.
I am glad that you all understand that the words come back to bite. I ain't taken sh!t from no kid. Glad the jury will understand.
Is that rittenhouse's lawyer?
@@eekthecat9933 Yes, I just realized that, too.
Corey Chirafisi.
Cockfield alone is going to get this guy off the hook. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s charged with perjury as well. Also, the defense team is outstanding. Just showing the screen shots of these kids how they were acting alone makes them look terrible, asking each one about smoking ruining their character, bringing up his alcohol level of .22 and comparing it with how many drinks they had. Incredible job painting these kids how they actually are.
Hes a prick, he’s trying to intimidate kids. What a douch bag
From acting hard to crying like a baby. When keeping it real goes wrong.
I see a bunch of drunk teens being aggressive, taunting and pursuing a single old man getting more than they bargained for. Now complaining and blaming the actual victim.
And the woman escalated it to physical.
@@micclayyes, as a woman myself who has been a victim of being beaten by an ex husband for no reason she had it coming to her…the defendant knew she was only escalating a bad situation that he was a victim in…..if he did hit her it was to shut her up but I kinda dont think he hit her at all…the guys just needed an excuse to why they were beating on him. These kids are shady as hell……any one who would do what they all did to an older man like the defendant are a bunch of creepy dudes.
@@kelcritcarroll you’re pure garbage. Absolute garbage.
He approached the kids. He was told to leave. They weren't pursuing him.
@@MikeJones-rk1un Absolutely correct. What is frightening in this case is all the commenters who twist this around to make him look like a poor doddering old man victim.
She is being a bully ,showing out in front of the guys. You calling a stranger names . If you all had went on down the river instead of calling this man names and harassing him.
Even if any of that were true, it does not meet any of the criteria of justifiable homicide.
NO!!!!!! If the man would’ve stayed with his own group and left the teens and their group alone then that day would’ve ended a lot differently
@taramcgavan7654 right
@taramcgavan7654 but again why would care you probably would be one of them hooting and hollering supporting the needless abuse haha exactly
Lying bastard saying he was scared was,nt scared when they were bullying him drugged up pissed rich kids
Typical answer of well intoxicated person: "Oh, I had a couple of beers."
I hope the defense brings up their drunkenness because are you going to believe a drunk person remembers the punch versus being in a drunken blur and just thinking you saw a punch?? These damn drunken fools were looking for a fight and they found it..... It just didn't go as I expected because they didn't expect their victim to fight back 🤬🤬🤬
@@astrialindah2773oh they are! And the fact that they all have the same story but the video they took shows exact opposite. These parents were all failures.
Well all of what y’all are saying is true BUT the defendant was a grown man & he had a knife. He should have left the scene. He was outnumbered by a bunch of drunk/stoned teenager guys & other people joined in the confrontation SO again the man should have left but NO, the defendant slugs a woman??!!
Them being drunk doesn’t really matter when the guy knifed someone else down. Underage drinking is not a defense to murder someone!
@@dudemorris7769
The perverts parents failed him the most. Now he'll spend the rest of his meaningless life in jail 😢
This kid and Jowan were the catalysts in this situation. Without Landon calling the man a Pedo and Jowan egging on the situation, this incident doesn't happen.
Jowan wanted a viral Tik Tok video. I bet he's a repeat offender with his friends of provoking people for views. The videos where they follow people with cameras and then call them Karen. Ugh disgusting and not a good example of the younger generation with their drinking and bullying. If Isaac was trying to stop that, then he'd have stepped in while they were pushing him in the water repeatedly and told them to stop. He only cared about stopping his friend getting their consequences.
Kids being bulling the man is not an excuse for him to murder one of them. None of the teen boys ever touched the man. He was the adult in the situation he was the one that needed to be mature and walk away. He had many opportunities to do so but instead wanted to stand his ground and start assaulting and stabbing people…
@@madsdee7803kids being bullied does not warrant death. The boys NEVER TOUCHED THE MAN. The man did touch them tho. He ran up to them to try to flip their tubs and touched their legs. He was an adult, these were 17 year old boys who hadn’t even entered their senior year of high school. They shouldn’t have acted the way they did BUT THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE the man KILLING one of them. The man could’ve walked away at many points and chose to stand his ground, ASSULT AND WOMEN, and then STAB PEOPLE. The adult men (not the teenage boys) pushed the man in the water and punched him AFTER HE ALREADY PUNCHED THEIR WOMEN FRIEND…
Kids are getting wild these days man. I just saw some 10 year olds putting their hands into other people's food (adult women) for TikTok videos then when the woman confronted the kids they called her a Karen and tried to push her around
@@Kaylee61132Wrong. By definition you are ignorant. Likely willfully ignorant, but maybe not willfully Either way you are ignorant. Congrats.
you dudes poked the wrong bear
"I was scared" 37:50 sure pal you look really scared
He was high and a punk.
The still shots are embarrassing. No one was scared until they realized people were stabbed and bleeding.
Miu was in their personal space. Back off.
@@Tipperary757- Back to the video!
Well duh it’s only when a weapon was used that injury occurred.
Yeah, I think the boys saying they were scared is kind of a reach. If they said he was bothering them and saying inappropriate things and ask him to leave and he wouldn’t, MAYBE that would make more sense.
Amen
The whole thing for me really hinges on whether or not Miu punched the girl before the two adults came over and started attacking him. Since there is no video of him punching her you have to rely on the witnesses. In order for the witnesses to be believable they have to be honest on every other front. To me it seems a lot of them are not doing that. This fit older teen referring to himself as "a kid" and pretending like he was scared until the "adults" came over is too disingenuous. He doesn't seem believable.
The "sober witness" was obviously drunk too since she's just rehashing the story and changed it from seeing him hit her to assuming he did (because the narrative didn't fit with the video).
The boys were 17 at the time and hadn’t even entered their senior year of high school… they were kids
"kids"? Did we watched the same video? These drunk dudes were towering over the older man and surrounded him before proceeding to knock him into the river, all the while laughing and hollering like they were having a good time. Until it wasn't a good time anymore
@@Kaylee61132So everyone is supposed to just put up with their crap because "they're kids"? No wonder they think they can act however they want.
@Kaylee61132 what does that mean they're innocent?
These kids make me sick. There parents should be ashamed.
@WowCat-di8vx ain't no man
Their kids
I hope you don't kill everyone who calls you a name
They are Local football stars and good kids none of them have ever even been arrested
@@AustinD1993Ok, but they were drunk, probably high, and provoking a man they didn’t know. This wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t invited a conflict. I’m not justifying the man’s response, but there are definitely mitigating factors. It was 13 to 1.
He doesn't remember much cause he was drunk and high..😠
Yea and so is 90 percent of highschool kids that ever go to a lake, this ridiculous.. just because as a group they were loud doesn't mean they weren't individually scared.. there's powers in numbers, n some people only act like they not scared because they have big groups..
Same with the defendant, the other parties that came to help..
Straightedge nerd 🤓
It's certainly not going to help their credibility.
@@lizgee5331 what credibility they need.. they were attacked by a guy with a knife.. he's the one that should worry about credibility saying as he's the killer and all that
He does not remember anything🤦♀️
Maybe they shouldnt have tried to jump and drown that guy? Dude clearly tried to drown the older guy in the video
That's what it looked like to me as well!
Don't remember that.. only remember Maddie getting punched
Singling out a person who is alone yelling they are a rapist and a pedo causes a lynch mob. They were not taunting him with words like “he’s a jerk! He’s fat! He’s old!” The words they were using would make a person have to get ready to defend themselves from bodily harm from a lynch mob that didn’t know what was actually going on. Not guilty! Self defense
Only 2 people said anything about being a pedo and this did NOT cause a lynch mob to even begin to form.
If he was worried that a lynch mob may form he should have walked away ( which is what people were telling him to do ) because at the point he did not have sufficient justification to do anything else.
most of the shouting was people telling him to leave - which is the exact opposite of what people who were getting ready to attack him would do and negates any claim of self defence.
I feel like all of the witnesses made up the story in advance anvout him saying anything about little girls which of course they cant remember what he said. They want to look like they were justified in bullying
Then how does that explain what they said to him in the video? If they made the story up afterwards then they would not be videoed calling him a pedo or other things.
They were trying to get a viral video by using him. Call him a pedo and wait for the reaction. That was a trend back then. Like the "Karen" trend of following women around and annoying them until they reacted and then they were "Karen".
@@carlson.douglas.wI’m sure he said I’m looking for a girls phone.
Period!
Yup, these kids (all have bad haircuts) and all are lying, if it was true that he punched her, they would all say the same thing but no, one says moved quickly, another said left hand right cheek, another says right hand left cheek with the knife in his hand that didn't cut her or break her oversized glasses, she got in his face over the lie of him being a pedo looking for little girls and he pushed her off which is what anyone would have done.
I'm a bartender for 39 yrs if he had 3 beers & 2. Shots he was over the limit Why wasn't he charged with underage drinking? & Possession of marijuana??????
Honestly, a dozen hostile young adults come after me in a river trying to drown me I might feel a little terrified and stabby too … Shame shame shame on them for causing this!
Absolutely yes
They were not young adults. You are twisting reality, they were 17 years old, all minors. Minors, legally minors. Not adults. Get it?
disgusting
Agreed 💯
@@MK-cc5vethe one who passed was 17 but some of these people are in their 20s- look it up
THEY WERE NOT SCARED,THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD BULLY HIM !!
Nothing in the videos shoes them as the aggressors! He charged & attacked! He could have walked away, he chose to prove he was a creep!
@@cristineconnell7803exactly. To me, if one of these kids had their own knife on them, and stabbed the guy to death after he stabbed multiple people, wouldn’t THAT be in self defense? The guy is a snowflake who couldn’t walk away
@@spencershaw4419he was looking for a lost phone they held up a phone ge tried running to them . They punched him repeatedly and pushed him down and thin they got stabbed...
@@cristineconnell7803 The teens have admitted that they initiated the whole thing. The words that they were hurling at this man were dangerous hate speech. Group 2 ran over thinking the guy was a pedo and attacked him. You can't instigate an attack like that and then play all innocent.
@@goofygirl1311 Another bot...this is truly amazing! Amazing that this defendant's law team thought the best way to combat negative attention is to hire a bunch of bots to try and change the narrative. None of those kids say they instigated it....why would they? We have VIDEO showing exactly what that creeper did to instigate the situation.
It's really sad to say that the video definitely proves these kids were bullying him, shoving him down in the water, punching him in the face not 1 but many teens. He really had reason to fear his life with so many kids under the influence acting completely irrational. Bullying a grown man. This truly is self defense.
Are you stupid? The man was pushed down after he stabbed someone. He also punched a woman first.
in the same breathe tho, Niu could’ve and should’ve walked away, but instead pursued underaged teens. 🤷🏼♀️
His lost cell phone was in the area where they stopped@@reeganmatter2473
@@reeganmatter2473he didn't pursue them they battered him first he didn't throw the first punch he didn't stab anyone or hit anyone until after he was battered and those are the facts and it's not our fault you hate those facts because they don't fit your ignorance
@@user-zw7rq8ys9h And they kept calling him, "You're a woman, you're a woman. That video was hard to qatch. These teens were like a mob, entitled, overconfident, spoiled brats.😢
These defense attorneys are phenomenal. It makes for a great trial. I’m glued to this one. Not guilty all the way!
Selective memory everywhere!
If you think you are able to talk like a grown-up and want to do things that is associated with grown-ups you also need to act with the responsibility and accountability of an adult, you do not get to say you are a kid.
The victim is the man being assaulted by a group of drunks.
A man is facing life in prison and these witnesses have zero compunction about lying through their teeth to avoid taking their own responsibility.
That man is guilty too. Don’t act like it’s all the kids fault. They are. ALL guilty.
Since the young man on the stand considers himself a child maybe his parents can get a bill for Mr Miu's defense lawyer. The man was a Mechanical Engineer before this nightmare.
@@aerynstormcrow The knife did not come out until Mr Miu was surrounded and being physically attacked. He had the right to defend himself. You don't get to gang up on someone like that and then play all surprised when they fight back.
@@aerynstormcrow guilty of snorkeling.🤣.Ya clown
@@aerynstormcrow if the children would have just ignored him to begin with, we wouldn't be here.
It looks to me like the wrong people are on trial.
All those bullies and drunk teenagers should apologize to Mr.Miu. NOT GUILTY !!!
Defendant had a quadruple bypass, was medically fragile, being pushed down repeatedly, having his head forced underwater, being attacked by a mob definitely would have put his life at risk. All actions on his part are self defense.
250 pound POS
“ FRAGILE” ❓🤣 If he had been “” Fragile””, he should have stayed close to “ mama”❗️
These witnesses keep mentioning that when some "adults" started coming over, they felt safer 🙄...as if they, themselves, were little children - needing protection. They look like very strong young men in the video 🤷🏽♀️. They're all lying, and have memorized certain scripted bits of testimony.
Yes I agree. What teenage kid believed they're smarter than any adult in the room or on a river?
Well they must not have been too scared because they kept instigating the issue
Come on !! Those was minors. Cougars's and pedos see them older too. But the brain is immature until 25 to 30 yrs old.
Yeah, you can’t be both. You can’t be the tough guys and the victim
18 -20 is still considered a kid. Hell most ppl don't move out their parents til they're 25 or more lol. This happened 2 years ago too
This punk is so Disrespectful. I would be embarrassed of these goons belonged to me 😡😳
Im sure their parents are all low-credit score types
What terrible comments here🧠🔌!A young man is sitting in front of the murder of his friend!He relive the whole situation one more time.I bet his parents earn more money that your two households together.
Have you seen your „goons“ when you’re not with them?Often are the own kids the troublemaker 😉
Typical All lives matter comment @@tsunamiiwinterz-px7oz
@@misssunshine2234yesss . Social worker😊 And the dentist
He’s so arrogant
He remembers the acts that will be in favor of him but don’t remember any acts that won’t work out in his favor. Makes a lot of sense. 😊
Damn so now people can’t snorkel in shallow water? 🤦🏽♀️
He was using the goggles to look thru the water for phone.
Imagine being 17 . Maybe almost 18 . Athletic with 6 of your friends. And you are scared to death of a old man snorkeling. 🤣👌🏻🤡💩
Imagine being some creepy ass 50 year old Trying to peep at some young women and when your called out your creepy drunk ass can’t get passed it 😂
These kids are super immature.
Imagine being fifty somthing trying to peep at young girls underwater…. Where is the phone this mid life losers was looking for exactly….
That's COVID it's a party but you not invited
@robertmarley8852 you're du.mb af still talking about covid
Deep down they know they contributed to the tragedy. People make the worst decisions
Who contributed the most ....... THE GUY WITH THE KNIFE 🤡
@@440-fishermandrock813vs1.🤷♂️
Agreed. It wouldnt be the first instance where a group of teens beat someone to death. Its on the news enough and in court enough that I can understand bringing out a knife and just making a path to get away.
The first time the man had to run and catch them grabbing and pushing, the second time he turned and walked away then he can running back and stabbed four of them them, they have already passed him when started running in the water charging them
@@wayne9480 Do you think that old guy could have outrun any of his attackers? When things got physical he was fighting for his life.
I love how they’re all playing the victim now. It’s comical, watching how they acted in the video to this. Putting these kids on the stand just secured Miu getting off.. wow.
Yeah, the jury is going to see right through a bunch of pathological liars who have likely been getting away with this kind of crap for years. Their parents have not done them any favors by being permissive and low standard.
Let's hope not
So a death and 5 stabbings, and there not victims? . MIU IS A ANIMAL AND WILL GO TO PRISON, JURY HATES AGRESSIVE GUY WITH A KNIFE IN 🔪 SWIM TRUNKS. I pray 🙏🏻 he goes to jail
I am not so sure about that … YES these entitled Brats intentionally antagonized him … but he punched one and knifed the others … that appears to be criminal at worst and an over reaction at least.
@@seattlejayde He had a belligrerent womam literally screaming in his face and forcefully shoving him while a crowd that she had waived over was rushing towards them...
“I was a kid” says the guy drinking beer, vodka, smoking weed, and plays high school football, oh and he was scared as he laughed and taunted this man
Its all fun and games until someone stands up for themselves
Ya'll are cowards. Condoning a man literally stabbing the guts out of a teenager and punching a woman because "he was being called mean names". He had every opportunity to walk away. in fact he began doing so, but he came back. His choice. Just like it was his choice to bring a knife to a body of water filled with teenagers and women. Just like it was his choice to stab and assault women and teenagers when NO ONE physically hurt him.
By killing a teenage boy, you are insane
@@123loortjeyeah when a group of people are attacking you it's called the self-defense and no matter how old they are. It's not our fault you hate the facts. The facts are older guy was physically attacked by a group of young punks and the old man defended himself against the group of young punks that was bothering him. So if your teenage boys with four five six of their friends go out and start battering an old man and that old man shoots them or stabs them that's on them not on the old man. Teach your kids not to bully people cuz they might not come back
@@123loortjeever been mobbed by a crowd genius?
@@123loortje a pack of dogs can take down a lion.
100% Self Defense. NOT GUILTY
The fact Nick liked in the video he got arrested in makes him look guilty. Plus why would he get rid of his knife if it were self defense he wouldnt need to hide it. He's guilty of his actions and he should have walked away just as the teens
@@emilyheather328what would you do if you were ambushed by a bunch of squawking bullies??? 😒 so easy to say “should’ve walked away” until you’re in that situation
Yes,, he should have walked away,, but I'll take it further,, he should have never went tubing....@@emilyheather328
@@BamaSquirrel You best go read the Wisconsin law. Not a stand your ground state & you MUST walk away if you can when you feel threatened. If he felt threatened especially by a screaming 115 lb girl who just WANTED him to leave then he had the whole river behind him to do so. All on him. He should have walked & turned the teens in for yelling that he is a pedophile especially in a place where there are a lot of people to hear that.
@@tomsanger5548
Have you read Wisconsin State statutes?
Wisconsin is a castle doctrine state… and does not have a “stand your ground” law like many other states, its castle doctrine law gives state residents the privilege to threaten or intentionally use force against another to prevent or terminate what the person reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with their person by another. You may only intentionally use force or the threat of force if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference.
A duty to retreat requires a person to make deadly force the “last-resort” option in situations where there is an imminent threat of personal harm. Instead of meeting deadly force with deadly force, a duty to retreat requires a person to make reasonable efforts to avoid confrontation with the threat, whether it be through de-escalation or leaving the area altogether.
Wisconsin does not have an affirmative duty to retreat, however, a jury may be instructed to evaluate whether a person had a feasible opportunity to retreat and whether they knew about such opportunity. For example, the castle doctrine could come in handy if you are on trial for first-degree intentional homicide, as it is considered an affirmative defense that could mitigate, or reduce, the severity of your alleged offense. However, the prosecution may ask the jury to consider whether or not you knew about a feasible opportunity to retreat from using deadly force in order to prevent the mitigation of your charges.
These drunk punks are just as guilty. They started the fight and he escalated it. They should all be sent to jail, if even for just a year or two.
Also ,who supplied these kids alcohol ? They, too, have some copeability. They should lose their liquor license.
I want know if they ever faced charges for underage drinking.
I live in Minnesota and I've been to apple river it's legal to sell to younger adults at the liquor store there, I went there when I was like 26 but I seen many underaged people there drinking also if your over 18 then anyone can buy alcohol for them just so you know.
Culpability*
and drugs@@michaelfarb108
@thomascolbert2687 I don’t know if this is true but I hear don’t charge them in these situations so to no discourage people from coming forward and presenting evidence.
Funny all these boys remember being scared lol. I think they have all been coached pretty well. What a shame this all happened.
What is there to remember? They antagonized a guy and were little shit head teens like some teens are, he didn’t like it, someone else came up and got in his face so he stabbed them. It’s all on video, nothing to remember!
Laughing in video shows different, only got scared when they friend was stabbed.
Same excuse cops use being "scared for their life" when they murder innocent people.
@@gagecarlsen3872 boy you're really making things up as you go aren't you?
They were 17 and haven’t even entered their senior year of high school yet… ofc they were scared, they were being arrogant because they were drunk, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t also scared…
I hope daddy‘s credit card covers lawyer fees
Prosecutors are paid with tax money not witnesses
daddy's son is not on trial.
This person looks drunk right now.
Everything I watched so far tells me these teens were the troublemakers! Everyone of them looks and acts like a punk! I believe this man was defending himself with these evil teens!
The "kids " are at fault for their friends death!
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And labeling them victims is definitely fake news. First off, Miu has not been convicted of murder so they are not victims as of right now. Secondly, the evidence proves they all lied and they not only lied, but they lie during their testimony and constantly correct their lies when the defense attorney informs them what they just said is not possible!
Madison fell down according to Ryan Nelson's testimony, then he's shown the freeze frame of the video showing she never fell and is still holding a drink in one hand, her sell phone in the other. So, *on the stand,* he changes his testimony 3 seconds later!
This happens over and over and over with each and every single witness from the prosecution and that are also being called "victims" by the fake news.
These kids are ultimately to blame for everything. When you generate a panoramic map of where everyone is standing in the video, he was surrounded from all directions and another half dozen people are on their way that the camera only shows for about 1 second.
If Miu had not defended himself, they would at the very least have beaten him senseless if not killed him. Each attack was more violent than the first.
@@user-wj4xi5dd1h First off he hits a woman and that that is why they push the douchebag, he pulls a knife and kills one person and seriously stabs 3 others, and the worst thing done to him was that he pushed down twice after hitting the woman.
Never seen a kid with a beard before. Perhaps, you mean young adults (17-25 years old)
The good thing is without the video from one of the teens Mui would've been locked up without any controversy
Well … no way do I think anyone should have been killed, but my impression is that those boys looked and behaved like a mob and the defendant got scared. Those boys still act cocky. I don’t know. What do you guys think?
i’m thinking the same as you.
Did you see the video the man was laughing he was scared of those boys he stopped them he left and then came back
I believe the defendent did get scared but his response was way too vicious !
@@joanmcdonald3176 I believe he got scared because he punch a female in the face as far as the boys he was not scared he was laughing at them people pay attention too the video before commenting
I don’t understand how people think running up and touching someone’s property is justified. Hitting someone is justified. Stabbing multiple people is justified in this situation? No one was acting right. Alcohol and a group of teenagers was involved. If I was being talked to that way and recorded I would have felt extremely uncomfortable and angry. But I’d like to think I wouldn’t approach said group and further the situation. Then stick around to strike someone, brandish a knife and then stab multiple people. This is not justified. People can’t stab others when they’re uncomfortable or even “threatened”. They need to walk away.
This cocky young punk is very unlikable.
Agreed. Dude has no balls.
Cry louder
@@robertmarley8852 no crying . Hes losing for his friend. Unfortunate.
100% agreed, liar to I think.
@robertmarley8852 truth hurts huh
Gotta laugh at how they all say "short water." Really, they couldn't figure out their story together to say "shallow water."
Al been schooled by these crooked layers
Right-who calls it short water - odd terminology
Seriously. TF is short water?😂
🤣🤣 How can anyone Snorkel IN 19 inches of water??
@@rockstarofredondo Opposite of tall water?
In his face means inches from his face and screaming at him , which he was . This witness needs to accept responsibility , but no even with his mate dead he lies . I would never give him a job .
I don't believe their stories. He was afraid for his life. He should not be on trial.
I second that.
I may agree with you but go back and look at the start of the video 4:53. He goes up to them. They were in their rafts, yes saying dumb stuff but why go up to them. And many times he could ahve walked away back to his group. Also, the only one from the teen group that got stabbed was the last one and it was right to the heart. One of the guys he stabbed was trying to break up the fight till he stabbed the girl from his group. So many things he could have done to avoid all of this. But I also blame the young men/teenagers for starting it and kept it going till it got to this point.
A District Attorney's job is to protect their community.
This one failed.
It's shocking to charges were not brought against the other people involved.
Not only do these young men think they have no responsibility for their actions the state has literally sanctioned their lying.
I hope they are able to get honest with themselves at some point in their lives.
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Aldi's in Tyler brats should be charged with underage drinking possession of marijuana and they should do an investigation of where they got the alcohol from because one of the parents mentioned on one of the newscasts that they owned a more and they trusted their kids to be able to deescalate. So do these brats get the alcohol from the parents that on the bar
What are they all lying abt exactly? Was you there?
The blonde was in his face not the boys.
These guys are all helping the defense with their testimony. First degree isn’t going to stick.
Yeah, the video is pro-defense, if you ask me.
First degree is completely ridiculous. I would not be able to find him guilty of 1st degree based on what I've watched so far.
They are really trying first degree? Yeah no way that will work unless the jury is completely brain dead. Second degree maybe.
first degree would have never sticked.
I think this will end in a hung jury. Look at how divided the commentors are. Everyone seems to be firmly in one of the two camps.
I have to imagine the jury is no different, with some thinking he's guilty and some thinking it's self defense.
If that's what does end up happening, i would think it would be a hard sell to retry him and expect any other result.
Fascinating trial though.
Can you even call someone a witness who doesn’t remember anything
Answers and timely amnesia seem awful convenient. Thankfully the jury has the right to listen to his testimony or ignore it.
This trial is taking place 2 years after the incident, this guy was badly wounded. Yes, memory could be foggy.
@@YaYaPaBla No. This guy's friend was badly wounded the dude on the stand was not hurt at all. He was just a drunk jerk ganging up with his friends to harass a lone older man and egging on Group 2 who rushed in to assist in the harassment.
@goofygirl1311 You clearly haven't followed this case for very long or you would know that the "poor old guy" was acting like a freak and had been going up to girls and being inappropriate before this incident. He was pretending to look for his phone when he was really just being a sick old creep. Funny how none of that is being mentioned in this whitewashing of events. The other kids got involved when the nice old man struck a girl. That's never ok. Ever. Anyone who thinks it is is part of the problem. This creep could have walked away multiple times but he ran at some drunk unarmed kids and pulled a knife. The video doesn't show the whole thing and the prosecution is really dropping the ball here laying this out.
@@tigerlily8117girl, take your meds.
@@tigerlily8117😂😂😂 you might want to pay closer attention to the "facts"
These young people were so evil to the older person. Vile kids. Parents : teach your children respect. I’m sad the young person died … but watch the video - evil young people. Period.
Lies did not hit that girl
This is 100% self-defense all day long. The man was mobbed by a group of thugs and he defended himself.
No not "Alll the way" at all!...Guilty
What liars these young adults are !!
All of these kids are lying for the prosecution. They have changed all of their stories since the night that it happened and they were interviewed by the police investigators. Their recollections aren't even matching up with the videos
Showing the mob video over and over isn’t a good look for the prosecution
None of their witnesses have been good for prosecution either, thanks to good defense lawyers showing the true story and showing how untruthful their testimony has been so far
They are already aware that they lost. Just putting on the show now.
It shows him coming up on the boys and stoping them
Sure it is, it clearly shows that this man departed from HIS group of friends and wife to go and “look for girls” and interact with the group of teenagers 🤦♀️
@@tiacalhoun3841he was looking for a girls phone.
Yall got your buddy gutted for no reason....
HE WAS GUTTED BY A KILLER!!!!!!
@@rochellestarr9538 That's something nobody seems to understand. Even if they were "antagonizing" the suspect, the suspect didn't wave a knife at them and tell to "get back!" He pulls out the knife and starts stabbing them all. Stabs the girl in the side, stabs the one guy in the stomach and deliberately slices upward disemboweling him, and stabs the other directly in the heart killing him instantly. His intent was to kill them, not self defense. An old insecure man slashing teens purposely.
He wouldn't have been if he had common sense
The guy who got gutted wasn't even his friend..........
He was part of the second group of "adults". The only one of this group of HS friends that got stabbed is the one who died. The other 4 were part of the Carlson group that came in and started assaulting Miu because the drunk teens were calling him a pedophile.
@tmzz3609 woof that's probably 10x worse
How are you a kid when you're drinking and smoking like an adult 🤔
My question is : why didn’t anyone from Mr Miu’s group go and see what was going on ….. if everyone else heard the yelling why didn’t they ????
They didn’t know something was going on until it was over.
If uve ever been river rafting u can't hear anything over the water.it is extremely loud.i used to be a whitewater rafting guide. These kids were drunk and bullies to an older man minding his business and snorkeling!!!!
It's not self defense mui could have just walked away. After the fact mui knew he stabbed several but acted like he didn't know anything self defense 911 I was attacked on the river by 12 people I pulled a knife and defended myself. You don't change your appearance and try to leave he's quilty
Not guilty
Bc he's likely an aggressor so they're used to it.
This kid is a liar.
Guy on trial is a murderer. WHATS WORSE .
So you were there? 🤡
@@440-fishermandrock8oh, he’s been convicted?
@@440-fishermandrock8awwweeee still angwy 😂 ready for the not guilty? Maybe you can go bully an old man to COPE HAHAHAHAHA
After watching all of these testimony videos, I’m convinced my grandmother was hired to operate the video presentation.
Hahaha 😂
@keithsergent2539 I’d suggest not being a Zimmerman and approaching young men like a badass only to end up forced to “stand your ground.” You can’t consider yourself a bad ass looking for a fight when the entire time you have a weapon ready to kill just in case it doesn’t go your way.
😂😂😂 It's so embarrassingly awful, right? The Prosecutor ( with no agenda, or plan, or preparedness ) the whispers and pausing and all around awfulness. Oof. Your granny running the
A/V and Chris Farley as the attorney. 🤡🤡🤡
The guys called him names,threatened him. Taunted him. Period
And Miu has a thin skin. Period.
Charges shouldn't have even been filed against him. 100% self-defense.
greetings, comrade
this guys so drunk can't remember anything
Exactly and I hope the defense brings us up in closing!
“Sir, are we on planet earth?”
“..uh, not that I remember..”
Guaranteed this is not the first time these guys ganged up on somebody .
Being called a pedo sounds like fighting words to me.
Word
Imagine being called a pedo by a bunch of half breeds with beat girlfriends
Yeah and considering they were filming it like they were going to put it on a public platform, they were asking for him to come over there so they could get juicier "content". I'm really ashamed of young people like that. My niece is like that jumping on every trend even filming herself and friends in the high school toilets. Ugh.
@@Jts449yes words.Have.power. Those were fighting words. If you don’t what the heat, don’t talk shit.
Situational awareness is a thing to most ppl and I'm sure the fact he was by himself when everyone else was in a group. Made him look shady af
Sure, this guy is just going around announcing he is looking for -----. I can't type it out - Google flags it. Think about this BS we are supposed to believe - that this man went up to these kids telling them that. God, every one of these kids are disgusting. The defendent has been in prison for two years with that baggage over his head. And BS any of these kids were afraid of him.
I agree!
Why he stab 2 women in the back? And why did he toss the knife… and lie about it being his…. His soon to be ex wife narked him out 😂😂😂 he lied to the police and you people defending this monsta shows who you are
@@ooyoututchmytralala Well, only one girl was stabbed and it wasn't in the back - you can even see it in the video. So you don't even know what you are talkin gabout and just want to make things up like these kids because you are the "monsta" who wants to be able to go out and mob attack people with no consequence.
He probably said where the girl at guys not Litt
@@ooyoututchmytralala yep
Defense is definitely crushin’ it.
its the rittenhouse guy
Yep!
5 teens punching and shoving a lone man, they could have killed that man. Playing to much GTA. Shit is real out here! Don't be putting your hands on anyone!
Yup imagine being on your back in water and higschool football team yelling over you pushing you down. Um he brought knife out and rhey still didn't back down
“ the adults “ dude you are 19 you are thee ADULT 😭
He wasn't 19 then
Were any of the kids charged with underage drinking? Disorderly conduct? Who bought the beer, the father who was with the teens? This really appears to be an alcohol induced bullying of an older man who did not draw a weapon until he was pushed, slapped, hit multiple times and taunted with names that were nothing short of horrid. I hate that Isaac died and the other kids were hurt but maybe they shouldn't have done the horrible things to bring it to that point of confrontation. They are bullies. They are also being proved to be liars.
This guy is the worst one so far! His parents should be so proud!😮💨🙄
That’s what I said too! He needed his butt handed better when he was younger. I have no sympathy for ppl like him. It’s sad because like someone said up there, there was nothing positive from this situation, no hero no nothing. If the girl could just have kept to herself and these kids I mean seriously if they act like that with a stranger, what can anyone else expect? These times are horrible tho, I don’t ever recall having such horrible stories or memories with other people from when I was younger. We respected elderly or just anyone who wasn’t around our age! That’s long gone , this generation sucks!
what does that mean?
My thoughts exactly.
@@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe You should remember sticks and stones... older man getting bullied by kids?! Walk away. He struck the young girl first. While having a knife in his hand. Then proceeded to stab 5 people killing one of them. BTW This kid was 17 at the time. Man is wrong from the get go. He even lied to police acting like he didnt what happened and even got rid of the knife. Kids can be assholes and mean words are just that mean words. MAN SHOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY - being the "ELDER" he should know better.
@@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe So they deserved to be attacked by some old lying geezer? They deserved to killed because they were impolite to some old weirdo who came at them first and hit a girl? And you think people not disciplining their kids caused this? The old guy was the one that was armed and aggressive first. Everything I've seen from the older people defending the murderer on here and blaming a bunch of kids in the comments just shows how out of touch they are and how much their generation sucks.
These young men were bullies. They’re not kids. Now they’re trying to act like victims. They’re pathetic and this is clearly self defense
These teenagers are not innocent at all. They bully and provoked that old guy! Teenagers really think they can get away with anything but they found out there’s consequences for their actions.
Blame the teenagers and say nothing disparaging of the grown man swinging a knife ave ultimately took the life of a another. That's pathetically one sided. Not even one word of the killers bad behavior!! But some kids laughed and made fun of an adult lurking around them. Oh, I know, they called him a bad name. So what, it's words.
May the grown man learn that his reckless behavior has consequences when he thought he could get away with whatever he wants.
lol, even if they are not completely innocent it doesn't justify the old guy stabbing them. come on
@@Ghost-oq8fw😊
Can we stop calling him an old guy! I’ve got 2 years until I’m 51! 🙈 Never imagined being this age… That’s for other people… Until it’s not 🤷♀️
They started it they should have just kept going down the river and minded their own business and this whole incident would not have happened
This one has the intelligence of a 6 year is old.😊
Better than being locked away the rest of your insignificant life. And being afraid of teenagers who hurt his feelings
No this was the friend that was there to smoke and chill he wasn’t paying attention to a damn thing but his thoughts lol
Don't know anything about this case but based on his actions in court he seems to be clearly upset about what occurred that day
That’s insulting to 6 year olds.
and the flying nun hair.......what a tool...lol
Dude is so tense he knows they fucked up he lyin
The teens wanted Miu to leave them alone but when he walks away they follow him and stand around him pointing at him taunting him, so now you wouldn’t leave him alone, right?
nope - at no point did they follow him, he is the ones who approached them.