Game Theory: The TF2 Pyro...Male or Female?

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  • čas přidán 10. 05. 2013
  • TF2 has been immensely popular for six years now, but this Valve classic still has one lingering mystery. Today, Game Theory takes on Team Fortress 2's unanswered question: The sexual identity of the Pyro. Is this TF2 hothead a male or female? Game Theory pulls back the mask to reveal who...or what...is underneath.
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  • @petah9749
    @petah9749 Před 7 lety +13860

    pyro is not male, not female, not bisexual or gay, pyro is pyro.

  • @DrTectonics
    @DrTectonics Před 10 lety +4784

    You can't expect Valve to know more than two things about the Pyro, considering that they're allergic to the number 3.

    • @OMGrobloxandweird
      @OMGrobloxandweird Před 10 lety +75

      Indeed. They've rarely given us a trio of games from certain game series. Example: Portal, Team Fortress.

    • @kaz5403
      @kaz5403 Před 10 lety +41

      nicholas .shaw ...half life, dota, DoD, counter strike, L4D..

    • @OMGrobloxandweird
      @OMGrobloxandweird Před 10 lety +19

      Why.
      Half Life is getting an Episode 3.
      Well....Half Life 2.

    • @t-34mediumtank16
      @t-34mediumtank16 Před 10 lety +14

      Masterfully crafted my good man masterfully crafted

    • @ManSteveAsperger
      @ManSteveAsperger Před 10 lety +1

      nicholas .shaw iknew that lol they are also working on source 2 engine

  • @generalbritain7735
    @generalbritain7735 Před 2 lety +2703

    Fanbase members: Pyro is a girl!
    Fanbase members: nooo! Pyro is a boy!
    TF2 developers: Pyro is Pyro

  • @HalfshellWarrior10773
    @HalfshellWarrior10773 Před rokem +773

    I love how MatPat compared finger sizes for his theory, just so Valve can fix the finger lengths on Pyro. "Fixed missing polygon from Pyro's finger."

    • @shadowsnstars
      @shadowsnstars Před rokem +57

      they actually changed it??

    • @Luizo_
      @Luizo_ Před rokem +45

      ​@@shadowsnstars fixed it, it wasn't a response to matpat and it did not change the length of pyro's fingers

    • @johnmcwick1
      @johnmcwick1 Před 2 měsíci

      I would have just chopped off both ring fingers in response.

  • @Marksman-vn1rm
    @Marksman-vn1rm Před 3 lety +2367

    When valve neglects your favorite game so you watch a video from 2013

  • @wdsmn7968
    @wdsmn7968 Před 5 lety +7262

    Pyro is a -man-
    Pyro is a -woman-
    Pyro is a -Pyro-
    Pyro is a sandvich

  • @skyslicer1979
    @skyslicer1979 Před rokem +940

    Two things, when they say “if he even is a man.” It can also refer to the fact that his species is unknown, for all we know he could be an alien. Second thing, pyro’s mask say OPTICAL MASK which is the cause of his visions, and it’s not too crazy to think that there could be headphones in there which manipulates the sounds he hears

    • @j.kkidding9764
      @j.kkidding9764 Před rokem +56

      I'm pretty sure it's just a second grader that somehow got hired by mann co

    • @skyslicer1979
      @skyslicer1979 Před rokem +7

      @@j.kkidding9764 😂

    • @0A7XfanfoREVer0
      @0A7XfanfoREVer0 Před rokem +28

      @@j.kkidding9764 second grader that hit puberty about 7 years early

    • @horrorking1676
      @horrorking1676 Před rokem +8

      the optical mask is a theory for his pyroland i believe its his visions
      but thats just me

    • @dedelblute3946
      @dedelblute3946 Před rokem +4

      @the wise mystical tree 🌳 Pyrovison Goggles. Need I say more?

  • @negativeburst9636
    @negativeburst9636 Před rokem +260

    You missed one detail: Even gloves made specifically for men usually have equally sized index and ring fingers

    • @Artemis0098
      @Artemis0098 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@Ja1St1nks well I've got some news for you buddy

    • @my-g497
      @my-g497 Před 9 měsíci +4

      my left hand ring finger is definitely taller than my index but my right is about the same length
      what does this mean

    • @misaoayakarox
      @misaoayakarox Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@my-g497my guy is both a male and a female

    • @dumbidiot4548
      @dumbidiot4548 Před 7 měsíci

      @@my-g497 same for me, my guy.

    • @hunterculpepper1973
      @hunterculpepper1973 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@my-g497 your a futa or a hermaphrodite

  • @katjohannessen6009
    @katjohannessen6009 Před 3 lety +1518

    Imagine his search history
    "How to tell is a person is male or female"

    • @mastergaming4505
      @mastergaming4505 Před 3 lety +3

      Too smart studios wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/3e/Spy_JarateHit06.wav

    • @quagmirefever843
      @quagmirefever843 Před 3 lety +13

      @Too smart studios upvote ehh? This is youtube, not reddit m8.

    • @mastergaming4505
      @mastergaming4505 Před 3 lety +2

      Too smart studios i didn’t say that tf2 sucks, heck when I get my own laptop I’m playing it, I’m just saying that the audio is you saying that comment

    • @mastergaming4505
      @mastergaming4505 Před 3 lety +1

      Too smart studios oh ok fam

    • @mastergaming4505
      @mastergaming4505 Před 3 lety

      Too smart studios oh no no no no, I meant when I GET a laptop, but I promise when I get it i am going to tell you alright?

  • @jbredwards
    @jbredwards Před 4 lety +5113

    Me: *is a straight male*
    Also me: *has equal length fingers*
    *confused screaming*

    • @joseph5802
      @joseph5802 Před 4 lety +255

      *laughs in straight male*

    • @SometimesCreator
      @SometimesCreator Před 4 lety +286

      Me: *looks at equal-length ring and index fingers*
      *v i s i b l e c o n f u s i o n*

    • @evilminds2376
      @evilminds2376 Před 4 lety +61

      Same dude

    • @arianewinter4266
      @arianewinter4266 Před 4 lety +54

      Eaqual is not that unusual, women tend to have segnificantly shorter ringfingers like my fingertip just reaches the nailbed of the middle finger . . .

    • @theminecraft2516
      @theminecraft2516 Před 4 lety +16

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  • @Symryte
    @Symryte Před rokem +231

    *Just like Mangle's gender, it was comfirmed to be yes.*

    • @FishieeXD
      @FishieeXD Před 9 měsíci +3

      that was a joke, scott made a joke

    • @cobaltqueenston
      @cobaltqueenston Před 8 měsíci +1

      mangle's gender is a boy or a girl, not yes. yes was the answer to if mangle is a boy or a girl

    • @Symryte
      @Symryte Před 8 měsíci

      @@cobaltqueenston alright, this was nearly a year ago. I don't really care what I said then.

    • @Symryte
      @Symryte Před 8 měsíci

      @@FishieeXD Alright, so? That's probably the closest thing you get on an answer to Mangles gender. Since Scott isn't doing FNaF anymore and Mangle is nearly a decade old. Not to mention, that comment in itself is a joke, you untolerant fool.

    • @selinaarmenta-ki8tw
      @selinaarmenta-ki8tw Před 7 měsíci +2

      *you have summoned a fnaf fan* hi :)

  • @jacknagel9387
    @jacknagel9387 Před rokem +292

    Okay I don't know if I'm in the right for pointing something out 9 years after the fact but the whole finger situation cant work with pyro. In Pyros description it says he cant talk due to his lungs being destroyed by the asbestos mask he wears constantly. Pyro suffers from constant Asbestos poisoning. Why does this matter? Well one of the first signs of Asbestos poisoning is actually puffy fingers meaning it's very possible his fingers aren't naturally like that.

  • @yurieinor5486
    @yurieinor5486 Před 5 lety +3043

    Medic: Berlin
    Spy: Paris
    Scout: Boston
    Engineer: Texas
    Soldier: New York
    Demoman: Scotland
    Sniper: Australia
    Heavy: Moscow
    Pyro: Hell

    • @benadryl9192
      @benadryl9192 Před 5 lety +61

      Honestly, Boston is the best, thanks for adding that. That’s a like. Oh yeah! Moscow too

    • @vTrickster941
      @vTrickster941 Před 5 lety +22

      HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAJHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

    • @mechakat6659
      @mechakat6659 Před 5 lety +95

      Medic: Stuttgart*

    • @hiraethfinch5224
      @hiraethfinch5224 Před 5 lety +7

      Yuri Einor I’m an Aussie

    • @sundowner9726
      @sundowner9726 Před 5 lety +6

      MOSCOWMOSCOWDUHDADUHDADUHDADUHDA!!!

  • @goat-7658
    @goat-7658 Před 4 lety +1553

    "He isn't here, is she?"
    Oh, the Mangle's description in UCN. Pyro's gender is *YES,* confirmed.

  • @someguy9278
    @someguy9278 Před rokem +314

    Am I the only one who wants the pink flower bag to be an actual cosmetic item?

    • @BeepBoopBee
      @BeepBoopBee Před rokem +9

      I WANT IT TO BE REAL! SO BADLY!

    • @pyrofromtf2
      @pyrofromtf2 Před rokem +5

      Well, I am real now.

    • @notinsideyourwalls
      @notinsideyourwalls Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@pyrofromtf2 I remember seeing you a few months ago (I had a different username and pfp then but whatever)

    • @atlas.from.portal2
      @atlas.from.portal2 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@pyrofromtf2mhmm mmhmh mhm mmhmhmhmh (. Well this is awkward )

    • @pyrofromtf2
      @pyrofromtf2 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@atlas.from.portal2 we are both Pyros.

  • @heckrum
    @heckrum Před rokem +578

    matpat really used hand, foot, shoulder, and height as proof for the person covered head to toe in thick clothing designed to keep fire out
    and, y'know, shoes

    • @masterdeetectiv9520
      @masterdeetectiv9520 Před rokem +63

      Also that theyre cartoons and their proportions arent real
      (Have you seen how huge their hands are)

    • @deleted-something
      @deleted-something Před rokem +1

      Ye

    • @Small_child_punter
      @Small_child_punter Před rokem +15

      There’s little to go on with the pyro so he used the resources available to him. Don’t look deep into it.

    • @fodobe1822
      @fodobe1822 Před rokem +1

      this is true

  • @tickles61
    @tickles61 Před 4 lety +750

    A lot of people: "It's rainbows and unicorns, Pyro must be female! ...Or very gay...
    Me: "No, that's just insanity.."

    • @birb601
      @birb601 Před 4 lety +42

      And I am a guy not gay but that's my dream (dont judge)

    • @tickles61
      @tickles61 Před 4 lety +66

      @@birb601 hey as long as you don't mistake a flame thrower for a magical rainbow gun, your fine in my book.

    • @omriyetanl3915
      @omriyetanl3915 Před 4 lety +4

      Emo yurei your right

    • @DeCarbonZo5979
      @DeCarbonZo5979 Před 4 lety +2

      That's what it's like being a being from hell.

    • @notnathanpogi1017
      @notnathanpogi1017 Před 4 lety +4

      But when i play it pyro is fat

  • @Double_Jae
    @Double_Jae Před 4 lety +2016

    I love how matpat based most of this video off the finger length... of someone wearing gloves

    • @rani6610
      @rani6610 Před 3 lety +41

      But doesn't medic wear gloves too

    • @bigsam8597
      @bigsam8597 Před 3 lety +110

      @@rani6610 In the meet the medic video, when he was giving Heavy a new heart, he wasn't wearing gloves

    • @sagolius
      @sagolius Před 3 lety +58

      And we already know what gender medic is

    • @igjozz5646
      @igjozz5646 Před 3 lety +87

      @@sagolius Not until we get a peek under those pants

    • @anightshadeguyman5089
      @anightshadeguyman5089 Před 3 lety +4

      Nothing stuff lmao

  • @ToxiSamu
    @ToxiSamu Před 4 měsíci +31

    Coming back to my first GT video ever after MatPat announced he was stepping down.
    This was such a journey.

    • @babysinktony
      @babysinktony Před 4 měsíci

      Same :(

    • @pillofort
      @pillofort Před 4 měsíci +1

      Me too,, I was maybe 8yrs old when this came out? I'm 19 now

    • @the.termite40000
      @the.termite40000 Před 4 měsíci

      This came out a month before i was born, im gonna be 11 soon :(

    • @xinpingdonohoe3978
      @xinpingdonohoe3978 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@the.termite40000 wow. That puts it into perspective just how old CZcams, and TF2, are. You're not that far from ending your childhood and starting your adolescence. That is wild.

    • @simonecrane3593
      @simonecrane3593 Před 4 měsíci

      my first too

  • @sammysweetroll
    @sammysweetroll Před 4 měsíci +10

    10 years later... we love you matpat.

  • @trashcangamzee2178
    @trashcangamzee2178 Před 7 lety +3436

    Pyro what are you?
    Pyro:Pyro
    No like what do you identify as?
    Pyro:A Pyro
    NO YOUR GENDER
    Pyro:A pyromaniac
    No ugh...whats in your pants?
    Pyro:Incendiary grenades

    • @friendlyneighborhoodrobot9773
      @friendlyneighborhoodrobot9773 Před 7 lety +295

      Nope, it would be
      Pyro what are you?
      Pyro:mrph!
      No,like what do you identify as?
      Pyro: Mrph!
      NO YOUR GENDER
      Pyro:Mhrp
      What's in your pants?
      Pyro:Mhrp Mhrp mhrp...

    • @McRaylie
      @McRaylie Před 7 lety +83

      Although gender is not what's in your pants, that's sex. Still funny though

    • @Ben_Gaming
      @Ben_Gaming Před 7 lety +66

      McRaylie Um gender is what's in your pants buddy, why do you think many people know there is only 2 genders

    • @McRaylie
      @McRaylie Před 7 lety +68

      Stupid 12 year olds No, gender is a spectrum between femininity and masculinity. There's a reason why it's called sexual reproduction and not gender reproduction. Some people just don't feel comfortable either as a man, or as a woman. And sometimes their gender identity doesn't match their sex. And finally, why do care? Does it really hurt you that some dude actually feels more like a girl. You gotta remember, gender is not biological, it's performative.

    • @McRaylie
      @McRaylie Před 7 lety +28

      Lions Cage I didn't call them stupid 12 year olds, that's the username. Also, my main point is that gender biological, but performative. And no, scientifically there aren't just two genders, that's what the western social norm says. In Indonesia, for example, they believe there are three genders. There are a myriad of ways to perform your gender identity of course.

  • @enrico6176
    @enrico6176 Před rokem +13

    these were different times... this would have been absolutely SQUASHED if released today

  • @DwasTV
    @DwasTV Před 2 lety +36

    I could have SWORN there was a video official from Valve where Pyro removes the mask off screen and speaks into the speaker and announces "Victory" in the official announcer's voice.

    • @cherriemaesicad8830
      @cherriemaesicad8830 Před 10 měsíci

      I think you are schizophrenic

    • @elietzold8540
      @elietzold8540 Před 10 měsíci +7

      In the original team fortress, the pyro was confirmed to be a female. This might be what you're remembering.

  • @lordofcringeviii7861
    @lordofcringeviii7861 Před 3 lety +835

    The finger argument is kinda bad, they could be wearing unisex gloves, or the gloves could be off in proportions
    Edit: I’m not saying the pyro is male or female, I’m just saying that the pyro doesn’t have to be gay or straight, depending on the way I look at my fingers ( pointer and ring), they can be the same length, or different lengths, all I’m saying is that the pyro doesn’t have to be gay or straight, just that it’s the pyro

    • @solarkiller1978
      @solarkiller1978 Před 3 lety +45

      No they did not the community did

    • @Gammera2000
      @Gammera2000 Před 3 lety +22

      Also it's total pseudo science.

    • @lordofcringeviii7861
      @lordofcringeviii7861 Před 3 lety +3

      Jaime Balasubas where in the video did matpat show the solider wearing gloves, also all of the gloves I have worn have had equal length index and ring fingers, just like the pyros gloves

    • @playafromdasouth
      @playafromdasouth Před 3 lety

      And his goggles are specaly made for "wimps" so really he can just be a normal guy

    • @lordofcringeviii7861
      @lordofcringeviii7861 Před 3 lety

      Līl Latìñ kíñg ………cool?

  • @vTrickster941
    @vTrickster941 Před 5 lety +394

    Everybody asks: ''Who is the pyro?'', but no one asks: ''How is the pyro?'''

  • @jaxsonhurst1769
    @jaxsonhurst1769 Před 10 měsíci +8

    In his defense, the gloves were probably unisex and not made specifically for him, so the pointer finger on the glove may have been longer than his actual finger.

    • @pyrofromtf2
      @pyrofromtf2 Před 10 měsíci

      True. But I'm still not a man.

    • @madmikefollower6939
      @madmikefollower6939 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@pyrofromtf2Male voice actor. Also finger lengths can occur in both genders

    • @pyrofromtf2
      @pyrofromtf2 Před 10 měsíci

      @@madmikefollower6939 but I'm the real Pyro, and I confirm I'm not a man.

  • @pidge5193
    @pidge5193 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I just found out from this 10 year old game theory that I'm a female with a male finger ratio

  • @scottyleu-3887
    @scottyleu-3887 Před 4 lety +466

    Spy: "He can be anyone of us!"

  • @oshawottgaming3692
    @oshawottgaming3692 Před 3 lety +606

    *I fear no man...*
    *But that thing...*
    Game Theory:: The TF2 Pyro...Male or Female?
    *It scares me.*

  • @tp7033
    @tp7033 Před rokem +11

    Back after the new patch notes
    They added a polygon on pyros finger 💀

  • @Noobthedood
    @Noobthedood Před 6 měsíci +6

    OMG WHAT IS MATPAT SMOKING WHEN HE MADE THIS

  • @cadrejeff
    @cadrejeff Před 3 lety +1408

    “There are two things that attract bears..”
    “Honey..”
    “and MENSTRUATING WOMEN!”
    “MY GOD, I KNEW IT..”
    “SOMEHOW I ALWAYS KNEW..”
    “PYRO!”
    “STOP BLOCKING THE DOOR!”
    “GOOD LORD, THIS PLANE IS FULL OF HONEY!”
    “AMELIA EARHART’S FAMOUS SWEET TOOTH HAS DOOMED US ALL!”
    -Soldier TF Comics

    • @saintcheesy
      @saintcheesy Před 3 lety +21

      True

    • @novapariah8135
      @novapariah8135 Před 3 lety +98

      I AM NAKED AND COVERED IN HONEY

    • @nobodylol2828
      @nobodylol2828 Před 3 lety +96

      Feminists after realizing its menstruate and not womentstruate

    • @gridlock9309
      @gridlock9309 Před 3 lety +35

      @@nobodylol2828 **unholy demonic screeching**

    • @IdiotScoutMain
      @IdiotScoutMain Před 3 lety +10

      @@novapariah8135 i think theres a book about a woman who falls in love with a bear and does that

  • @xopok999
    @xopok999 Před 4 lety +338

    I think pyro is a male but he just really like bright stuff and usually sniffs some of that sugar

    • @spaghettiweddi8031
      @spaghettiweddi8031 Před 3 lety +5

      What about glitter?

    • @beenz9857
      @beenz9857 Před 3 lety +5

      Sugar, eh? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @astrosteve1118
      @astrosteve1118 Před 3 lety +4

      @Gamer mations that's what he totally missed. You can even read "Optical Mask". I am surprised that they didn't see that in the cut

    • @rani6610
      @rani6610 Před 3 lety +1

      That he found in that alley

    • @happiattack
      @happiattack Před 3 lety +1

      I like pink, am straight, and are a guy soo...

  • @herisruns
    @herisruns Před rokem +22

    4:11 matpat really said shemale 💀

  • @turtle3568
    @turtle3568 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Now, Pyro does have a big OPTICAL sign on his mask, indicating that the mask may be creating hallucinations.

  • @nunnyu
    @nunnyu Před 5 lety +186

    1. gloves are all the same size...
    2. the goggles are what causes the pyrovision...
    wait on the otherhand why am i trying to be smart and correct matpat..

  • @seallies6964
    @seallies6964 Před 3 lety +402

    According to soldier, we're all ladies.

  • @dumpanimator
    @dumpanimator Před rokem +27

    I like how matpat more sane and use real speculation
    before fnaf make him insane as heck

    • @sososo1704
      @sososo1704 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I don't think this is really sane. The finger stuff is a bunch of pseudoscience. Maybe he was always insane... Like the pyro!

  • @System_4045
    @System_4045 Před 4 měsíci +6

    The small issue with this theory is that I don't exactly think that fire retardant suit is skin tight

  • @PokeymanTrainer
    @PokeymanTrainer Před 9 lety +3226

    How do we know it's even human?

    • @Dan-jz4sz
      @Dan-jz4sz Před 9 lety +441

      *X-files music plays*

    • @prebenkolstad495
      @prebenkolstad495 Před 9 lety +73

      Daniel Hinrichsen Why did i laugh at that? pls help...

    • @tylordianearl3990
      @tylordianearl3990 Před 9 lety +188

      Lol, what if it was a....
      You Clicked the read more button.. you are now my slave :D

    • @prebenkolstad495
      @prebenkolstad495 Před 9 lety +7

      YES!

    • @DEWMNINJA
      @DEWMNINJA Před 9 lety +32

      Tylordian Earl I'n NOT going to try to click read more, it's tempting, but not risking it.

  • @_Criptyx
    @_Criptyx Před 3 lety +5035

    Matpat: makes a video about pyros gender
    Twitter: so you have chosen, death

  • @Copper_Akai.Ash_
    @Copper_Akai.Ash_ Před rokem +8

    3:07
    Mat.. it’s been 9 years it won’t happen…

  • @IsRickIV
    @IsRickIV Před 2 měsíci +1

    This was the video that introduced me to the channel, it’s honestly hard to believe it’s been 10 years ago now.
    All I can say is thank you for such a huge part of my childhood.

  • @monsterpeen1356
    @monsterpeen1356 Před 6 lety +511

    Me: *looking at my hands to see if index finger is taller than the ring finger*
    MatPat: " wait. Let me guess, you just stopped to check your hands didn't you?"
    Me: *slowly puts hands away* "I'm sorry for not paying attention"

    • @amarooso4776
      @amarooso4776 Před 6 lety +5

      my index is longer than my rinng...

    • @icehotel4968
      @icehotel4968 Před 6 lety +2

      Creepy Clown Lol same

    • @deadchannelxd4461
      @deadchannelxd4461 Před 6 lety +6

      Matpat:women are more resistant to heat me: pyro is -male- female

    • @zhni3310
      @zhni3310 Před 6 lety +2

      Creepy Clown same ;-;

    • @qubertsans5070
      @qubertsans5070 Před 6 lety +4

      Creepy Clown DARN IT MATPAT STOP READING MY MIND

  • @ImSnomm
    @ImSnomm Před 6 lety +568

    Pyro isn't gay
    Pyro isn't a boy
    Pyro isn't a girl
    Pyro is Pyro

    • @Mate_Antal_Zoltan
      @Mate_Antal_Zoltan Před 6 lety +16

      Jason [Plays Minecraft,Subnautica,Roblox and more!] No dumbass. Pyro is a Pyrocynical

    • @manny7289
      @manny7289 Před 6 lety +8

      antal mate So then pyro is a cute little lesbian

    • @manny7289
      @manny7289 Před 6 lety +3

      MultiZernaez Sniper is just fuckijng around with pyro's feminine behavior

    • @ItsMeFrosty
      @ItsMeFrosty Před 6 lety +3

      Pyro take away Y = Pro

    • @hellomatehere7867
      @hellomatehere7867 Před 6 lety +1

      yes he is a payro

  • @The_Master_Chief_1.1.7
    @The_Master_Chief_1.1.7 Před 11 měsíci +23

    Actually pyros vision is the mask cause if you look close enough the mask has words on it "Optical mask" and it makes it so you see stuff like how if you drink. And in the air in the pyros vision its actually a male symbol if you look enough, or maybe the game designers made pyros gender a mystery so girls wouldn't get mad at them for them not adding a girl. And in the game files you can see pyros face.

  • @bizbug2687
    @bizbug2687 Před 2 lety +10

    Can we make an updated video on this? The new comics could add some new insight. If not, just any other tf2 video would satisfy, there is just so much lore in this game

  • @hankingtonnn
    @hankingtonnn Před 4 lety +326

    “One shudders to imagine what Inhuman thoughts lie behind that mask” -Spy

  • @bennie8349
    @bennie8349 Před 5 lety +623

    Why did the spy cross the road?
    he never really was on your side.

    • @KingKalashnikov
      @KingKalashnikov Před 5 lety +11

      ....i swear I saw this same joke on an SFM video about the spy. But hey, maybe people just have the same idea about jokes.

    • @merasmusthewizard5408
      @merasmusthewizard5408 Před 5 lety +3

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHHHHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

    • @JazzoBeat
      @JazzoBeat Před 5 lety +7

      No too see scout mother

    • @butterybuns2008
      @butterybuns2008 Před 5 lety +3

      @@JazzoBeat Scunt (I MEAN) Scout 6.9 Miles Away: *Hey, Why don't you come over and say to my face tough guy?*

    • @Xanman22512
      @Xanman22512 Před 5 lety +1

      Okay, that was good.

  • @DannyCheezits
    @DannyCheezits Před rokem +7

    i think pyro is some sort of demonic ghost controlling the suit, especially since heaven and hell are real things in the tf2 universe along with satan. It'd explain why some non-halloween restricted cosmetics can fully remove his head and replace it with stuff like a transparent ghost's head or a lightbulb. It'd also explain why they love fire so much because they were raised by it bane-style

  • @user-mt3hu8jb7f
    @user-mt3hu8jb7f Před 4 lety +530

    5:33 what does it mean if im female and my hand looks more male?
    *DID MY PARENTS LIE ABOUT MY GENDER*

  • @OGPolska1
    @OGPolska1 Před 4 lety +206

    Look Matt, he sees these things because he has an OPTICAL MASK
    LOOK AT HIS MASK
    IT SAYS OPTICAL MASK

  • @morthecrazyguy4724
    @morthecrazyguy4724 Před 6 měsíci +2

    wow... WOW... How did I miss this video after all these years?!
    I'll be looking at the Pyro in a completely new way from now on!

  • @dominicduenas4511
    @dominicduenas4511 Před rokem +5

    So guys, in tf2 when u put on pyrovision glasses, medical supplies (which cantains drugs) are seen as candy meaning pyro maybe attracted to candy and is OVERDOSED making him an insane,pyromaniac.

  • @theluckycan5764
    @theluckycan5764 Před 3 lety +547

    "males have longer ring fingers than index fingers, and females have same length ring and index."
    Me: **looks at fingers**
    Am I a girl?

  • @asadgiraffe8908
    @asadgiraffe8908 Před 3 lety +601

    I love how this is literally the Mangle gender despute before the Mangle gender despute even existed

    • @raiisleep
      @raiisleep Před 3 lety +5

      bro but thats a robot

    • @afooferrz
      @afooferrz Před 2 lety +11

      @@raiisleep bro but its a theory

    • @EmeraldShine13
      @EmeraldShine13 Před 2 lety +24

      @@raiisleep Who says that Pyro isn't a robot, too? /j

    • @danteydantes8415
      @danteydantes8415 Před 2 lety

      @@raiisleep a robot of a cartoon character made for children that probably only know the genders he and she
      (im half joking)

    • @ninolloydbandiola5581
      @ninolloydbandiola5581 Před 2 lety +5

      Except she is canonically a "Yes"
      also your pfp is giving me Pantheon 4 flashbacks

  • @Violn95
    @Violn95 Před rokem +228

    Oh my God, I remember watching this video A LOT as a teenage boy...
    As a woman, this really should have been a sign XD

    • @calarthur96
      @calarthur96 Před rokem +11

      SAME

    • @ecstaticmechanic
      @ecstaticmechanic Před rokem +47

      bein' a pyro fan really is a gateway drug into becoming trans
      legit got gender envy from them when i was a kid 💀

    • @Juicykiwijuice
      @Juicykiwijuice Před rokem +22

      @@ecstaticmechanic literally called out the entire trans community

    • @multigrandmarquis
      @multigrandmarquis Před rokem +6

      literally just came back to comment on this jesus christ

    • @chariot5660
      @chariot5660 Před rokem +1

      mood

  • @sgandrf
    @sgandrf Před rokem +5

    I like how he brings up the size of fingers and feet, despite Pyro literally wearing gloves and boots

  • @CallmePotatoHead
    @CallmePotatoHead Před 7 lety +532

    pyro has no gender under the mask is just more fire

  • @HahaYes-bl5xb
    @HahaYes-bl5xb Před 3 lety +249

    Well think about it, if you're in a war, I would find anything to hold my stuff. So Pyro having a purse would make sense.

    • @pyrofromtf2
      @pyrofromtf2 Před rokem +9

      You're right. If I wanna own a pink purse, I can, and there's nothing stopping me except angry fans.

  • @bluntdevourer1776
    @bluntdevourer1776 Před 2 měsíci +2

    here after his retirement, probably the first theorist video i watched. dude was absolutely unhinged and goated for this and still is

  • @ninotor2080
    @ninotor2080 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Hard to believe this vid is a decade old

  • @kamdenmcleanmusic
    @kamdenmcleanmusic Před 5 lety +246

    Sometimes I like to go back and visit pastpat.

    • @emma-uo1nm
      @emma-uo1nm Před 5 lety +1

      Savage Cabbage if you go on film theory all the way back you can see his old singing clips.

    • @chocopeach7517
      @chocopeach7517 Před 5 lety +2

      this was my first gt episode... ah, the older days.

    • @amonkey4707
      @amonkey4707 Před 5 lety +1

      Lol

    • @Rae-uv2ov
      @Rae-uv2ov Před 5 lety +1

      1:18 This man just made me buy Dragon age Origins, play it for 2 weeks, and he's right.

  • @PrivateBooth
    @PrivateBooth Před 4 lety +313

    Game Theory: *uploads video*
    Pyro-Vision Goggles: *”I’m about to end this man’s whole theory”*

    • @thelindholmway
      @thelindholmway Před 3 lety +23

      Missed the oportunitty to say "Im gonna ruin this whole's *Mann's* theory"

    • @cameronharley610
      @cameronharley610 Před 3 lety +12

      The question is, were the Pyrovision goggles made after Pyro or for Pyro. 👀

    • @shaarkfinn
      @shaarkfinn Před 3 lety +5

      I’d say pyro is just like that, not because of the goggles. In the comics, when pyro got mad he just stopped seeing pyroland and started seeing destruction as he bludgeoned a bear to death-

    • @inky5574
      @inky5574 Před 3 lety +8

      The goggles changed my vision! I didn't know this was a war! It was the goggles...
      *Sees Mann Co. On the mask and gets ready for revenge*

    • @aqilshadow5451
      @aqilshadow5451 Před 2 lety

      @@cameronharley610 probably for the pyro

  • @Blin-ItsAGopnik
    @Blin-ItsAGopnik Před 6 měsíci +3

    Revisiting old theories is so nostalgic

  • @Bonesy28
    @Bonesy28 Před 5 lety +1028

    “Who’s pyro?”
    I’ll do you one better.
    “Why is pyro?”
    Edit: wow I’ve never had this many replies on a comment

    • @Samuel152
      @Samuel152 Před 5 lety +4

      @KENSETH ROBB Yes

    • @isabellahickey8672
      @isabellahickey8672 Před 5 lety +13

      No it’s How is Pyro?

    • @sarahmcdonald7280
      @sarahmcdonald7280 Před 5 lety +7

      @@isabellahickey8672 he's doing good

    • @gaymarlox6289
      @gaymarlox6289 Před 4 lety +6

      It's
      Where is pyro
      Yeah ill do you one better who is pyrotechnic
      Ill do YOU one better WHY IS PYRO
      Leads back to the floating through space sfm animation

    • @aidenlopez411
      @aidenlopez411 Před 4 lety +4

      I’ll do you one better when is Pyro

  • @tehownerer1547
    @tehownerer1547 Před 9 lety +272

    I came here hoping to learn what gender the Pyro was.
    I left here questioning my sexuality.
    I feel strange and confusing things. I need an adult. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED A MAN OR A WOMAN. HELP.

    • @slurpnoice.2018
      @slurpnoice.2018 Před 9 lety +2

      Get both! xD

    • @tehownerer1547
      @tehownerer1547 Před 9 lety +7

      Hubert Serafin ...! PERFECT

    • @fuzzybuzzy3159
      @fuzzybuzzy3159 Před 9 lety +9

      Look up pictures of girls that are considered to be attractive. See if you have a reaction. Now repeat the process with attractive boys. See result.
      If you are attracted to the girl (if you are indeed male) then you are straight. If the other, than you are gay. If both... Welcome to the club! :3

    • @maxminton7861
      @maxminton7861 Před 9 lety

      Teh Ownerer *tfs reference* I am an adult.

    • @AntiqueMeme
      @AntiqueMeme Před 9 lety +2

      Mason J. Penis? P***s? Really? What are you like four? XD

  • @kickthebuckethat
    @kickthebuckethat Před rokem +1

    0:59 Shows an image of the game in early beta. For example, the loadouts were still being worked on. And alas, Scout with an SMG

  • @Baldamore
    @Baldamore Před 7 měsíci +3

    THIS VIDEO IS 10 YEARS OLDDDDD?!?!?!

  • @MinerHFilms
    @MinerHFilms Před 4 lety +474

    Pyro is achully the famous youtuber pyrocinacal in an alternate universe.

    • @sqrapz
      @sqrapz Před 4 lety +10

      I thought this was canon?

    • @kittyluvr
      @kittyluvr Před 4 lety +18

      alternate universe where's he had enough getting asked where petscop 2 is

    • @sqrapz
      @sqrapz Před 4 lety +11

      @@kittyluvr "you guys have asked me for petscop 2 for long enough!" *burning noises and children screaming*

    • @BlaiyND
      @BlaiyND Před 4 lety +4

      He said homosexual male

    • @sadmanpranto9026
      @sadmanpranto9026 Před 4 lety +4

      In alternate universe pyro made a video about why matpat is gay...

  • @ghostly4235
    @ghostly4235 Před 3 lety +1299

    Can’t believe he’s getting “cancelled” for this

    • @user-hq5sp5pi2e
      @user-hq5sp5pi2e Před 3 lety +27

      It kind of makes sense from their perspective. Although MatPat wouldn’t logically be aware of this, it’s almost exactly like a common transphobic red flag (ridiculous attempts at clocking). They’ve probably just gotten stuck in their heads.

    • @alex.stets24
      @alex.stets24 Před 3 lety +43

      Yeah although he has been “canceled” before but 1. At the time the transgender and non bianary community was really not as prominent and out there as it is now a days and 2. He had done more good things to back it up AND I personally am non bianary and don’t really care at all it’s just a minor mistake no one really needs to care about because Twitter is Twitter

    • @indiebanks6197
      @indiebanks6197 Před 3 lety +53

      he’s not getting cancelled for anything, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this video

    • @indiebanks6197
      @indiebanks6197 Před 3 lety +42

      @@user-hq5sp5pi2e yeah, but this isn’t a trans character, at least not canonically. i’m literally trans and see no problem at all with this

    • @indiebanks6197
      @indiebanks6197 Před 3 lety +7

      @UClfEsY_gUx5TLhaX1pIir3w how? i’ve seen people try but they can’t cancel him for doing nothing wrong

  • @elchido4940
    @elchido4940 Před 3 měsíci +3

    THE THUMBNAIL IS GOLD 😭

  • @thebuildingmann1308
    @thebuildingmann1308 Před 2 lety +3

    By the way Matt if you equip the provision goggles ingame and you will find out how pyro sees the candly land

  • @crazycarly3504
    @crazycarly3504 Před 3 lety +231

    Character: has a purse
    People: GIRL!

  • @MrLC92
    @MrLC92 Před 9 lety +1515

    I did not "pass" the finger test!
    I will cut my finger.

    • @MrLC92
      @MrLC92 Před 9 lety +44

      There have to be something wrong with my body... because my left hand has the two fingers almost the same size... but in my right hand there is a difference...
      I'm not kidding.

    • @IcestormTundra
      @IcestormTundra Před 9 lety +18

      Lámbientan Lámbientan I have that too XD

    • @MrLC92
      @MrLC92 Před 9 lety +12

      ***** What the hell are we? XD

    • @IcestormTundra
      @IcestormTundra Před 9 lety +9

      Lámbientan Lámbientan Not a clue XD

    • @theinsaneones425
      @theinsaneones425 Před 9 lety +5

      Same. I'm transgender and bisexual. Uhh.

  • @skeletial
    @skeletial Před 6 měsíci +3

    "Ash's inability to close the deal with misty" dawg they're both 10 😭

  • @phineasmar
    @phineasmar Před 4 měsíci +2

    The voice actor for Pyro actually confirmed that there were written lines he just does them under his mouth to get the muffle efect

  • @elishaadrienne5460
    @elishaadrienne5460 Před 6 lety +412

    Pyro's *True* Gender: Pyro

    • @thepyro9484
      @thepyro9484 Před 5 lety +7

      Mph...?

    • @m2aynaRD
      @m2aynaRD Před 5 lety

      The Pyro you like pyroland

    • @snooptrap-zh4pp
      @snooptrap-zh4pp Před 5 lety +2

      The Pyro oh carp its pryo *turns into red eningeer* PRYO protect my sentry

    • @snooptrap-zh4pp
      @snooptrap-zh4pp Před 5 lety +1

      Pyro TeamFortress 2 *gets stabbed by spy* HAAA X_X

    • @spycraft1842
      @spycraft1842 Před 5 lety +1

      Tron Draws // KPOP Speedpaints Im always play with pyro

  • @nou8120
    @nou8120 Před 5 lety +369

    People would've been so triggered if this video was made today

  • @FishieeXD
    @FishieeXD Před 9 měsíci +3

    there is a texture underneath his mask that shows a boys face

  • @watchmychannelorelse
    @watchmychannelorelse Před rokem +4

    pyro is obviously lightning mcqueen in disguise

    • @aceyv2019
      @aceyv2019 Před rokem

      no he's pickle rick, you absolute buffoon

  • @kojo0ttiz316
    @kojo0ttiz316 Před 4 lety +286

    7:00 note that pyro is wearing thick gloves, and some gloves tend to have most of the fingers identical in length.

  • @Tom-H1
    @Tom-H1 Před 3 lety +230

    "That's just a theory!"
    Fempyro P**n SFM artists: *Yes.*

    • @Pablo-yu9mc
      @Pablo-yu9mc Před 3 lety +1

      I have a fem pyro mod

    • @appleboy5878
      @appleboy5878 Před 3 lety +1

      (Turns head 180 degrees even though it breaks my neck)

    • @CommissarChaotic
      @CommissarChaotic Před 3 lety +1

      What about the blu pyro from the comics?

    • @Tom-H1
      @Tom-H1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@CommissarChaotic blu pyro is faek

    • @raiisleep
      @raiisleep Před 3 lety +2

      excuse me, w h at

  • @HotPotGuy
    @HotPotGuy Před rokem +4

    It kinda BOILS down to one question. Which side would wanna hold a giant flamethrower in a stuffy un-well ventalated suit with their head-and hair- pushed back, with super sweaty hair(and.perhaps onstructing their vision with longer hair).Pyro probably hallucinated not by crazyness, but by chemicals they may breathe in.It reminds me of a mortuary assistant episode Austin did on The Science! Where he mentions chemicals used and bad venrilation in the building.This is my theory.

  • @kingkrool94
    @kingkrool94 Před 3 měsíci +2

    he's using the body measurement theory
    on a character that wears thick clothing and gloves

  • @laurendelune7618
    @laurendelune7618 Před 3 lety +937

    “Surely a man wouldn’t have a pink handbag” *LET HIM LIVE*

    • @theanarchist9733
      @theanarchist9733 Před 3 lety +5

      @Ophelia Ward why, why this comment?

    • @blutrashbag
      @blutrashbag Před 3 lety +88

      I mean frick gender roles cause gender roles arent swag

    • @Fosterest
      @Fosterest Před 3 lety +65

      I'm a guy that likes some shades of pink

    • @theanarchist9733
      @theanarchist9733 Před 3 lety +13

      @@Fosterest *gay*

    • @lemurthequailfriend2389
      @lemurthequailfriend2389 Před 3 lety +59

      As a homosapien who is not colorblind and has to carry multiple belongings with me, I can appreciate any mode of transportation for said items, and by extension any color that my fellow primate siblings may also observe. Although, my preferred handheld transportation device would be the cranium of my most dreaded adversary drenched in the blood of a sacrificial penguin. This often results in a certain shade of dark red or pink. Is this the true explanation for my homosexuality? Fellow human? I have been pondering this question for millenia. Impart upon me your gracious wisdom.

  • @AmateurArson
    @AmateurArson Před 4 lety +103

    i like how this is in his "my SCARIEST episodes" playlist

    • @aaronking2020
      @aaronking2020 Před 4 lety +6

      OH BOI SO SCARED PYRO IS GAY

    • @bluesherbet2741
      @bluesherbet2741 Před rokem

      Makes 100% sense lol, this episode is scarier than every horror game I've ever played or watched.

  • @n0chiilwiil
    @n0chiilwiil Před rokem +1

    10 years later and not a single bit of official lore has come from tf2 at all. R.I.P to the fortress team

  • @RealSamulation
    @RealSamulation Před měsícem +3

    Uhhh...my index is longer than my ring...whats that mean?

  • @crystalspeed7214
    @crystalspeed7214 Před 3 lety +185

    *looks at fingers and sees my index is longer than my ring*
    me: *confused screaming*

    • @ahmed_hamoda9783
      @ahmed_hamoda9783 Před 3 lety +6

      it's a theory so ok not a fact

    • @frogge4426
      @frogge4426 Před 3 lety +9

      I have female hands, but im a straight male, has everyone been lieing to me!?!?

    • @apenasumabatata4741
      @apenasumabatata4741 Před 3 lety

      @@ahmed_hamoda9783 The theory is about Pyro's gender, not about your finger size

    • @chloes5597
      @chloes5597 Před 3 lety +3

      Opposite over here 🤪 ring finger is longer than my index yet I’m a straight woman

    • @bot24032
      @bot24032 Před 3 lety +1

      @@frogge4426 are you sure you're straight?

  • @sleepyassperson8682
    @sleepyassperson8682 Před 3 lety +1412

    POV: you’re watching this after a person with a caved in head on Twitter tried to cancel him for this video

    • @mochi3764
      @mochi3764 Před 3 lety +16

      LMAO YES

    • @davetheduck6801
      @davetheduck6801 Před 3 lety +38

      Yep, Twitter is full of Einstein’s and oogaa booga caveman brains that have lost 99/100 of their brains

    • @Smoketrees1969
      @Smoketrees1969 Před 3 lety +8

      This autimatically apeared in my recommend

    • @erossol79
      @erossol79 Před 3 lety +1

      Had to make the 99 into a 100 sorry

    • @Devonn_the_Legend
      @Devonn_the_Legend Před 3 lety

      That is right

  • @dominicaccardo8050
    @dominicaccardo8050 Před 10 měsíci +3

    6:55 he meant no ill will, don’t cancel a man for doin what was expected from him in 2013

  • @TransFemcell
    @TransFemcell Před 3 měsíci

    Pyro has been my favorite class ever since this video first came out. What a journey I've been on

  • @prodm1key257
    @prodm1key257 Před 4 lety +203

    They say "Who's pyro?" But never say " how's pyro? "
    *sad pyro noises*

    • @TheAres1999
      @TheAres1999 Před 4 lety +6

      I’ll do you one better! Why is Pyro?

    • @teebo3498
      @teebo3498 Před 4 lety +4

      TheAres1999 I’ll do you one even better, When is pyro?

    • @socially_awk7362
      @socially_awk7362 Před 4 lety +1

      Mhff mhf
      Translation :thank you

    • @starryari2389
      @starryari2389 Před 4 lety +1

      teebs I’ll do you one better. What is Pyro?

    • @phodailey
      @phodailey Před 4 lety

      Huddah... :(@

  • @Oculus_Olympian
    @Oculus_Olympian Před 4 lety +366

    I hate being a nerd but pyro's goggles are creating the 10 year old dreamscape know as Pyro vision
    Edit: wow this blew up... but I am well aware that meet the pyro is a fan made animation but, this dosen't mean that it's not possible. I think it could be a real possibility that the goggles could effect pyro's vision in a way similar to the pryro vision theory.

    • @ylijumala6314
      @ylijumala6314 Před 4 lety +17

      Yeah, the mask is the reason for the vision, or the goggles more specifically

    • @Gunanter
      @Gunanter Před 4 lety +5

      Yup

    • @idioticlight
      @idioticlight Před 4 lety +6

      Or the goggles are made to re-create what he sees

    • @theoneandonlyvilly1148
      @theoneandonlyvilly1148 Před 4 lety +11

      Don't be upset about being a nerd, have you seen what we are watching

    • @williamrumping4008
      @williamrumping4008 Před 4 lety +5

      Carter Vrieze yes finally someone that is correct

  • @typo1345
    @typo1345 Před rokem +2

    2:07
    when Game Theory predicted Sans and Papyrus 2 years before Undertale's release

  • @justine5382
    @justine5382 Před 2 lety

    I think this is the first game theory video I’ve ever watched

  • @thornwall6303
    @thornwall6303 Před 3 lety +82

    "Wow, this video was long!"
    Oh 2013 MatPat, you poor naive boy!

  • @gabesumner1236
    @gabesumner1236 Před 3 lety +503

    Remember when twiitter had a meltdown about this? twitter ragers seem to 5 year olds with no grasp of logic or reasoning.

    • @ultimatefandom3127
      @ultimatefandom3127 Před 3 lety +13

      that's why most of the people are here, because they're still going on.

  • @fernfaba
    @fernfaba Před 7 měsíci +3

    4:13 best part