In 300 years of Spanish Empire in continental America, only 3% of the war or load Spanish vessels were captured or sunk by the English or pirates in general, which is a not too bad record. This was possible because of the formidable defensive system of the Convoy. Opposite to pirates films, the Spanish sailors used to onbord the pirates ships to fight with their swords and moskettes, being superior in the vast majority if those fights.
I love all the people who are saying "it just turned on a dime, no ship can turn that fast". As if they are going to make you watch ten minutes of a ship turning slowly. You can tell its speed up by how many times they fire on flints ship, which is 3 times. A cannon at the time, with this size crew took on average 5 minutes to get only 2 shots off, 3 shots max during that time with a very well trained and fresh crew. Turning a ship within 5 minutes, especially a spanish man of war with a heavily trained crew, is entirely plausible.
I don't understand why people complain about digital special effects. This is so much more real than even the best age-of-sail movies I saw in my younger days. I'm a history and sailing buff and I approve!
lol of course he was, he did well for who he was not every man can lead, a lesson i learned long ago...not in combat. but in work construction, man, the ammount of polotics was astounding, 20 years later im the old fuck that refuses to wear a radio, but has been around. you look hungry, and your pissing everyone off, let me tell you of a tale
let others make the mistakes, if only that was an option lol, oh well. i still make 150k a yyear, im respected my parents are still alive and love me, my nephews think im cool af, my siblings mostly love me, i die a happy man
I must confess it: I am Spaniard so I'm just a "little bit" biased, nasty British -corsairs- pirates. I guess back then only English, not yet British. 3:43 ¡ Hurrrrrraaaaaa Españaaaaa!
The show is set in around 1715, the Union Act was passed in 1707 so they had officially became Great Britain for around 8 years at that point (though Scotland and England had shared monarch since around 1600s or so)
Estimado amigo: Si yo fuera usted, insistiría en decir I'm Spanish. Los españoles llamaban a los ingleses Hijos de la Gran ... Bretaña, en correspondencia estos llamaban a los españoles Spanish Bastards, abreviado Spani - ards, o sea Spaniards, pero en fin, allá cada cual y su sensibilidad.
Toothache, dysentery, scurvy, falls from the rigging, and daily swallowing and passing gold coins to keep them from other pirates, killed 99.9% of them.
Horrible plan. Even if the pirates crippled the first ship from the rear, and that’s a big if, that second ship was in position to unleash a huge broadside when it cleared the first ship. Either way that little pirate ship was toast.
what second ship? 2 of the 3 ships in this scene were the pirate's..the walrus and the ranger...the plan was to shoot at the man o war from both sides...but it brought its broadsides to bear too quicky...and honestly their plan IRL would have been way better because that ship turned way too quickly for dramatic purposes.
Toothache, dysentery, scurvy, falls from the rigging, and daily swallowing and passing gold coins to keep them from other pirates, killed 99.9% of them. Man o' War accounted for 7 pirates.
Honestly it looks like it wouldn't have mattered The ship barely has barely moved when they do start firing and their gunnery isn't all that effective or much on target
Fantasia, that was not a 17th century galleon, it was a 90-gun ship of the line from the late 18th century. The funny thing is that the pirate ship was a galleon- Again fantasy, very entertaining but only that Love to see pirates die
The show acknowledges that it's a risky plan, but the pirates have two ships perfectly positioned to rake the galleon from both the bow and stern, as well as the element of surprise. If Flint's crew hadn't mutinied and choked up in the crucial moment, they could have won - raking was a devastating tactic.
come aboout on a pivot? the sequence are obviously sped up since u dont reload a cannon that quickly and for show reason u dont just make the viewers watch a ship slowly pivot :/
...Why wouldn't you be prepared to move the ship in the event you don't sink the Spanish man-o-war in order to try and stay behind it and out of it's broadside?
Flint's ship was anchored to the ocean floor and set up on a pulley system. He at one point told his men to turn the ship to make it appear that the ship was drifting. The ranger was to draw the man o wars attention and then as the Ranger fired from their port side cannons, flints would fire from their starboard side, effectively raking the manOwar from bow to stern and destroying it... unfortunately Flint was blindsided by dufrane and as we see in the video... things to go hell in a hurry. But at least they found the treasure later
This show was so fucking good. One of the best dude shows ever made. I'd put it at a close second to the show Strike Back. Not as good of a dude show but damned close.
So did this battle go to shit because that guy with the glasses hesitated? It seems like it was a bad idea to take on the spanish man-of-war anyways, they had the perfect position and he didn't hesitate that long...
No, this battle went to shit because the Spanish Man of War had an average of 124 guns, 56 on each side. The Spanish crew fired shot ranging from 32-pounders on the upper deck to 42-pounders on the lower decks. That pirate frigate had at most 24 total, 12 per side, and the cannons ranged from 24 to 32 pounds. Some of those actually looked lighter. None of them looked to be 32-pounders. Let's do some math. The pirate frigate weighed at most 1000 tons and fired maybe 12 24-pound shots, not all at once. 12 x 24 = 288 pounds of shot and a much bigger ship. For the Spanish, from their 2000-ton ship, let's go with 23 x 32 = 736 and 23 x 42 = 966 for a total of 1,702 pounds of metal fired in a consolidated broadside at a smaller ship. The pirates fuhkkked up long before they hesitated.
Yes they fucked up when the guy in the glasses hesitated to immediately fire before the Spanish turned their ship. Had they fired right away when flint wanted they probably would've had a fighting chance instead....
You didn't do much against Bonaparte and would still be under French rule had you not been saved by the British and our Portuguese allies. Your Amada didn't fair very well against the English, even before the Royal Navy was established: you then did badly when allied with the French at the Battle of Trafalger.
@@Colonelspicyweinr dmontanao not forget the north of America,,,,california ,texas florida nuevo mexico,montana,colorado.etc, more than 2/3 parts of the usa was called new Spain,even alaska after all was stolen by anglos🤣🤣🤣
@@joanllinasbas1231 a ship can only manoeuvre as its moving forward. No sailing ship can turn on the spot. And, the wind direction determines its ability, and detection, , to move at all, which limits it's tactical ability to move. As usual in these movies, the reality of moving a sailing ship, has been ignored to fit the narrative..
@@henkmeerdink2088 a stopped ship could perfom a turn by boxhauling (I think it is called that), although it was a difficult manouver and isn't at all what appears in the series (as you say, the galleon just turns without even touching their sails)
@@henkmeerdink2088 hey! And I would agree. The boxhauling manouver allowed to move the vessel without any anchors needed, but ot is true that in the series the ship just turns on itself, which looks silly (though still awesome when it fires away)
In 300 years of Spanish Empire in continental America, only 3% of the war or load Spanish vessels were captured or sunk by the English or pirates in general, which is a not too bad record. This was possible because of the formidable defensive system of the Convoy. Opposite to pirates films, the Spanish sailors used to onbord the pirates ships to fight with their swords and moskettes, being superior in the vast majority if those fights.
That moment when the hatches of the Spanish man-of-war opened at once, those pirates were screwed.
That moment the crew put their lives in the hands of that four eyed fuck instead of flint, they were screwed
He who hesitates, get obliterated. Stupid dufrane
Like literally
it's was long before, when they open fire a too far boat, revealing they are unable to manage their shooting range ...
@@emiledurand5864 sí, viva España
I love all the people who are saying "it just turned on a dime, no ship can turn that fast". As if they are going to make you watch ten minutes of a ship turning slowly. You can tell its speed up by how many times they fire on flints ship, which is 3 times. A cannon at the time, with this size crew took on average 5 minutes to get only 2 shots off, 3 shots max during that time with a very well trained and fresh crew. Turning a ship within 5 minutes, especially a spanish man of war with a heavily trained crew, is entirely plausible.
Another armchair quarterback here?.................this ain't no video game here skippy,........keep yer day job dorkmeister!
this is the only historically correct scene
Because that is what very often happened to the few pirates willing to face a Spanish galleon.
they implied how big a deal spain was when whats his name took on the debt, he was sweating
Totalmente de accuerdo
I don't understand why people complain about digital special effects. This is so much more real than even the best age-of-sail movies I saw in my younger days. I'm a history and sailing buff and I approve!
Most people expect the ship to be cut in half or sink immediately because that's what happened in "Pirates of the Caribbean"
Everything about this show gives me chills...I LOOOOVE THIS SHOW 3:19 the sound of those...cannons...oh my God
Duphrane froze when his moment came. He thought he had what it took, but he proved that he was wholly out of his depth.
lol of course he was, he did well for who he was not every man can lead, a lesson i learned long ago...not in combat. but in work construction, man, the ammount of polotics was astounding, 20 years later im the old fuck that refuses to wear a radio, but has been around. you look hungry, and your pissing everyone off, let me tell you of a tale
let others make the mistakes, if only that was an option lol, oh well. i still make 150k a yyear, im respected my parents are still alive and love me, my nephews think im cool af, my siblings mostly love me, i die a happy man
3:29
It was at this moment that Flint knew, dufrane fucked up..... HIT THE DECK!
Esos galleones con 60 cañones eran impresionantes.!!
Eran los dueños de los mares .
Seems like this was a very bad day for Captain Flint.
Eran unos tipos duros y peligrosos, mis ancestros. Saludos desde España.
I must confess it: I am Spaniard so I'm just a "little bit" biased, nasty British -corsairs- pirates. I guess back then only English, not yet British.
3:43 ¡ Hurrrrrraaaaaa Españaaaaa!
The show is set in around 1715, the Union Act was passed in 1707 so they had officially became Great Britain for around 8 years at that point (though Scotland and England had shared monarch since around 1600s or so)
Estimado amigo: Si yo fuera usted, insistiría en decir I'm Spanish. Los españoles llamaban a los ingleses Hijos de la Gran ... Bretaña, en correspondencia estos llamaban a los españoles Spanish Bastards, abreviado Spani - ards, o sea Spaniards, pero en fin, allá cada cual y su sensibilidad.
Don’t worry - 😉 everyone is perfectly aware that the pirates 🏴☠️ are criminals
Bloody dodd went far. Sadly the fate of most pirates and happend sooner rather than later nine times out of ten
sadly not soon enough
Toothache, dysentery, scurvy, falls from the rigging, and daily swallowing and passing gold coins to keep them from other pirates, killed 99.9% of them.
Horrible plan. Even if the pirates crippled the first ship from the rear, and that’s a big if, that second ship was in position to unleash a huge broadside when it cleared the first ship. Either way that little pirate ship was toast.
But they have the weather gage
@@adamgrimsley6455 not only did they not have the weather guage, she's better than a 44 gun ship...czcams.com/video/rEZqisCYz8U/video.html
what second ship? 2 of the 3 ships in this scene were the pirate's..the walrus and the ranger...the plan was to shoot at the man o war from both sides...but it brought its broadsides to bear too quicky...and honestly their plan IRL would have been way better because that ship turned way too quickly for dramatic purposes.
Lol not quite. They were 2 pirate ships one the Spanish gallion. There were no 2 Spanish ships
@@rycs16 I watched again
Please define weather gage
Toothache, dysentery, scurvy, falls from the rigging, and daily swallowing and passing gold coins to keep them from other pirates, killed 99.9% of them. Man o' War accounted for 7 pirates.
for my buddies in newfoundland!
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They should fire the moment Flint ordered. The rig would be destroyed so the manowar could not turn about.
Honestly it looks like it wouldn't have mattered
The ship barely has barely moved when they do start firing and their gunnery isn't all that effective or much on target
Fantasia, that was not a 17th century galleon, it was a 90-gun ship of the line from the late 18th century.
The funny thing is that the pirate ship was a galleon- Again fantasy, very entertaining but only that
Love to see pirates die
The crew should have waited for after the battle
رائع جيدا
They should have stern raked it when they had the chance.. they had the weather gauge and the advantage until that ship turned broadside..
What the bloody hell are they doing engaging a third-rate (looks like a 74)? Especially since the Spaniard can magically come about on a pivot.
That's a First Rate ship of the line, mate. One side alone counts around 50-60 guns.
Because this is a terrible show that has terrible logic.
@@ranvabclc and, they were the first ships to use the, then still secret, bow thruster
The show acknowledges that it's a risky plan, but the pirates have two ships perfectly positioned to rake the galleon from both the bow and stern, as well as the element of surprise. If Flint's crew hadn't mutinied and choked up in the crucial moment, they could have won - raking was a devastating tactic.
come aboout on a pivot? the sequence are obviously sped up since u dont reload a cannon that quickly and for show reason u dont just make the viewers watch a ship slowly pivot :/
this scabe made me smile
...Why wouldn't you be prepared to move the ship in the event you don't sink the Spanish man-o-war in order to try and stay behind it and out of it's broadside?
Flint's ship was anchored to the ocean floor and set up on a pulley system. He at one point told his men to turn the ship to make it appear that the ship was drifting. The ranger was to draw the man o wars attention and then as the Ranger fired from their port side cannons, flints would fire from their starboard side, effectively raking the manOwar from bow to stern and destroying it... unfortunately Flint was blindsided by dufrane and as we see in the video... things to go hell in a hurry. But at least they found the treasure later
BECAUSE!!!
Viva Cristo Rey, viva España. Viva toda la hispanidad. 🇨🇴🇻🇦🇪🇦
Viva la hispanidad hermano, saludos del otrora virreynato del Perú
Did the middle boat have autocannons?
This show was so fucking good. One of the best dude shows ever made. I'd put it at a close second to the show Strike Back. Not as good of a dude show but damned close.
2 frigates vs 1 man'o'war
the clues in the fooking name lads
they would have had better odds boarding her to take her
They did! 😂
3:19 gun ports are open, 3:29 gun ports are closed and opening up again...
Quiet 🤫
You are blind
Flint cant die!
Discount Harry Potter is to blame
So did this battle go to shit because that guy with the glasses hesitated? It seems like it was a bad idea to take on the spanish man-of-war anyways, they had the perfect position and he didn't hesitate that long...
No, this battle went to shit because the Spanish Man of War had an average of 124 guns, 56 on each side. The Spanish crew fired shot ranging from 32-pounders on the upper deck to 42-pounders on the lower decks. That pirate frigate had at most 24 total, 12 per side, and the cannons ranged from 24 to 32 pounds. Some of those actually looked lighter. None of them looked to be 32-pounders.
Let's do some math. The pirate frigate weighed at most 1000 tons and fired maybe 12 24-pound shots, not all at once. 12 x 24 = 288 pounds of shot and a much bigger ship.
For the Spanish, from their 2000-ton ship, let's go with 23 x 32 = 736 and 23 x 42 = 966 for a total of 1,702 pounds of metal fired in a consolidated broadside at a smaller ship.
The pirates fuhkkked up long before they hesitated.
Yes they fucked up when the guy in the glasses hesitated to immediately fire before the Spanish turned their ship. Had they fired right away when flint wanted they probably would've had a fighting chance instead....
01:39 peak smug
04:39 regret
it was all fun and games until the Spanish ship fired back...
3:29
it's such a beautiful yet terrifying scene, one of the best in the show
Si es un barco con la bandera imperial de España porque todos hablan en inglés ???
Pirate ship was a stolen FROM Spanish ship
I'm glad i didn't start watching this show
Because you can't swim
2:57 lolwut
Koment ke 65
sin subtitulos q bajon
No one has more balls than us Spaniards, no people in the world, none of them!!!
You didn't do much against Bonaparte and would still be under French rule had you not been saved by the British and our Portuguese allies. Your Amada didn't fair very well against the English, even before the Royal Navy was established: you then did badly when allied with the French at the Battle of Trafalger.
@@klackon1 remenber the English armada 1589 defeated by the Spanish and Mara Pita.
Maybe more brains and less balls y’all would’ve held on to central and South America along with the Philippines
@@Colonelspicyweinr maybe more brain and lesballs and you would have held India and australian and southafrica😆😆😆
@@Colonelspicyweinr dmontanao not forget the north of America,,,,california ,texas florida nuevo mexico,montana,colorado.etc, more than 2/3 parts of the usa was called new Spain,even alaska after all was stolen by anglos🤣🤣🤣
Viva España 🇪🇦
Viva España ✌️🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦🇪🇦 remenber England 🤣
a wood ship just rotating in place.. what kind of video game magic is this
it's called using the wind and sails
@@joanllinasbas1231 a ship can only manoeuvre as its moving forward. No sailing ship can turn on the spot. And, the wind direction determines its ability, and detection, , to move at all, which limits it's tactical ability to move.
As usual in these movies, the reality of moving a sailing ship, has been ignored to fit the narrative..
@@henkmeerdink2088 a stopped ship could perfom a turn by boxhauling (I think it is called that), although it was a difficult manouver and isn't at all what appears in the series (as you say, the galleon just turns without even touching their sails)
@@joanllinasbas1231 yes, but that includes dropping the anchor, and pulling lots of rope. None of which, was apparent in this clip.
@@henkmeerdink2088 hey! And I would agree. The boxhauling manouver allowed to move the vessel without any anchors needed, but ot is true that in the series the ship just turns on itself, which looks silly (though still awesome when it fires away)
yeah this is lame
como tu comentario
this is so unrealistic...
this is hands down top contender for worst age of sail combat in movie ever....
@@honzavasicek "Captain Horatio Hornblower" from 1951 was better
Why? That's what you get when a ship of the line unleashes its full broadside on you.
@@70mavgr its a man o war warship lots of cannons.
Better than that dog shit series pirates of the Caribbean. Also every historical show/movie that is realistic sucks ass.
Loved this show till it went gay
so you made it about till season 2 then lmao
@@ginjaedgy49 caught me off guard, was living it then was like hey hey hey wtf, why? Just why?
@@snigie1 thankfuly it's only really in flashbacks, no gay stuff in the majority of it
@@ginjaedgy49 just killed the whole vibe for me
What do you mean 'until it went gay'? There was a gay sex scene in the first episode of the entire series.
Shitty day at the office huh?..............
Well ain't that a real pisser?..............