ARIEL HELWANI: Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan on owning NWA Wrestling, WWE & AEW
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Ariel Helwani interviews Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins singer and owner of NWA Wrestling, on his love of pro-wrestling, him leaving TNA, buying the NWA, MMA and pro-wrestling and more.
The lead singer of the iconic rock band The Smashing Pumpkins and owner of the legendary pro wrestling organization NWA joins Ariel for a wide-ranging conversation about the business of professional wrestling.The guys discuss:
- When he first fell in love with pro wrestling
- His messy fallout with TNA Impact in 2016
- Why he decided to buy NWA in 2017
- The difference between MMA and pro wrestling fans
- Why NWA doesn't script promos
- Plans for NWA 74 on August 27/28
- And much more!
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Really enjoyed this chat. You can tell Billy is a legit fan.
Got to see the first NWA tapings, The Crockett Cup, and NWA 70 and they put on a really good show. You’d enjoy it a lot
Great interview! Seems like everyone from the Midwest that was born in the 70's was initiated into wrestling fandom just as he explained it. I saw my first episode of Power before listening to your interview and it really did take me back to my early childhood. Nostalgic!
This is why I like u ariel helwani you cross over I know its an (mostly) an mma show qnd yes its interesting but for me the interests come more from pro wrestling because its so much going on and boxing and music now wow....but yes I love mma but the others are much more interesting for me
Corgan always makes for a fascinating interview. Agree with you on Howard Stern. Amazing interviewer. Billy’s appearance from 2012 while promoting Oceania is one of the best and deepest interviews I’ve ever heard in my life. Good stuff 🙏🏼
Been a Billy fan for 30 years and mad respect for creative verticals and always evolving!👏 👊
Best of luck and excited to see what's ahead.🚀
Smashing Pumpkins have been one of my favourite bands for years!! Love Billy! I knew he was involved with wrestling and I think he got his brother involved with one of his past wrestling organizations too! Billy such a smart dude. Loved this convo, amazing interview as always Ariel!!
Had no idea this dude had anything to do with wrestling in any fashion. Sick. Pumpkins are one of the best bands outta the 90s. Str8.
Thank you for Promoting NWA Ariel and thank you William Patrick Corgan for your investment in NWA, your goal oriented business mind, and your recent promotional efforts for the NWA brand across various forms of media. Promotion is extremely vital to the short and long term success of any entertainment brand. (Thank you Chris K. Irvine for that wise tidbit of truth)
A "World Wrestling Peace Festival" like multi-promotion ppv event would be epic.
I do hope that AEW, NWA, NJPW, Impact Wrestling, MLW would pull this off in the future! 🙏
That should be the Forbidden Door PPV
Ariel is spot on when saying hardcore MMA fans are the most insecure fanbase ever.
that's an understatement. They'll attack Dana for not paying fighters while bragging about pirating fights and scratching their head why money pushes like Mcgregor get special treatment.
Cause they're braiwashed by the garbage Vince McMahon jr has shoved down society's throat.
I know the current nwa situation is in top of billy Corgan plate but, wow I love hearing these history stories from billy corgan. I could just listen to him talk wrestling history all day.
Such a cool dude, I always like hearing him talk
So much respect for Billy. Absolutely loved this conversation 💯
The mix of behind the scenes wrestling stories and howard stern info I can’t get enough of this episode.
Because of this interview, I will be checking out NWA now.
great interview.....NWA 74 lets goooooo!!!!
I'd rather watch any old school studio wrestling like the stuff from Florida and Georgia hosted by the iconic GORDON SOLIE than a big stadium production. The old Texas AWA productions with the Von Erichs and early Shawn Michaels and Marty Janetty were incredible and GREAT TV. I'll be watching this promotion on CZcams. Thanks Ariel. Great interview.
As a kid growing up in Tampa we used to watch Championship Wrestling from Florida hosted by Gordon Solie. Right down the street on my block Steve Kearn lived and I would wash his orange Corvette on Saturday's. He would show me his belts and stuff. Then at Skyway Park I would see Dusty Rhodes and Bad Bad Leroy Brown. Then many years later and I am now an adult living in Greenville, NC and I'm in line at grocery store and there is a huge bald headed guy with a thick accent English mixed with something and it occurs to me this was Ivan Koloff "The Russian Bear" so I speak with him and tell him what a fan of wrestling I was as a kid he was very humble and gracious man. Then a few years later I saw on local news he died of cancer in a small community (Winterville). It was so surreal to talk to this man who in the late 70's I would see on Championship Wrestling from Florida. I heard he had become a born again Christian and was somewhat of a preacher. As I talked to him he wore a huge silver cross.Not sure why but he and his wife were buying like 20 bunches of bananas.(maybe their church was making banana pudding.) Had also met Black Jack Mulligan at an event in Williamston N.C.. Small world after all.✌
Well done to you both....incredible flow and insight...thank you
Wow Billy corgan what a treat. Awesome interview. He was on jre around 2017 I think? Also another Billy interview worth watching
you'll understand this if you're of age... weren't the 90s such a great time for music?
@@u2norton Not if you're a fan of 80's music lol. I like it though.
His Alex Jones interviews are even better.
@@Portuducks 🤦♂️
@@u2norton yes i grew up on smashing pumpkins. I dont know billy through wrestling at all
Great interview bro! Well done 👍
As a huge pro wrestling fan I really enjoyed the discussion about mma fans and how they treat pro wrestling
I kinda disagree with Ariel on that. The most vocal fans are ProWrestling haters. But a large amount of mma fans are actually former Wrestling fans that felts so alienated by the WWE’s horrible booking and PG catering
A World Tournament of non title holders yet prominent professional wrestlers competing to get a Gold Medal would be dope as fuck. It should be held every 2 years and should consist of talent from several Pro Wrestling Promotions.
Thank you Ariel! You're always so good at touching on all of the relevant notes and topics that help make us marks thrive!
tru
I saw smashing pumpkins in San Antonio this past may and Billy and the band were awesome! Maybe they can play tarantula in the future 🤘
I really like Corrigan ideas for the wrestling business 👌
Impact, MLW & NWA are my favorite promotions to watch. i really cant get into any of the Big Corp Wrestling shows on major networks at all. I hope that NWA continues to strengthen & for continued collaborations between Impact and MLW too.
wow look at Arie interviewing rock stars good job!!! I Love Billy he is a smart guy
Billy product placement of that hoodie worked. Gonna preorder it now.
Is Tim Storm still wrestling? He was a great, believable heel champion!
Coming outta left field...hahahaha nice interview 👌
I'm glad that Corgan realizes his show comes off as too throwback but it didn't say much about changing it lol ....The production is really what kills it for me.
I honestly enjoy the presentation. In my opinion, its a far superior presentation than that of the WWE with the bright color and nonsensical camera movements. clearly a larger audience would benefit any presentation but the studio audience is decent
@@ishmael802 Totally agree!!
Great interview as usual Heelwani 👌
I agree with the idea of doing a supercard of every other promotion. It's such an obvious idea
When that first Silversun hit came out, Lazy Eye, I was stopped in my tracks and I said "new Pumpkins?! Omg! And it's good too OMG!". Then I saw video, from across the room when I was distracted and I said "Damn, Billy looks young when he lets his hair grow. And the Asian guitar player's hormone treatments are really working"... 😄
Ariel has some amazing conversations on his YT Channel
You’re the man Ariel
This is must listen if you're a wrasslin fan. I'd love to see that super show like Flair's final match. They had all sorts of wrestlers from everywhere pitching in on the show. Sadly though I don't think Tony Khan will do it. Or if he did it the show would be too much like AEW.
You’re saying Tony Khan wouldn’t do it, while comparing it to Ric Flairs last match? Did you forget that there were multiple AEW contracted talent on that card, included two in the main event of it? You’re not required to love TK but if you’re gonna throw a dog at him maybe don’t use your example as one that shows that he would do it and that he wouldn’t force AEW to be the focus, as he clearly did everything you said he wouldn’t in Ric Flairs Last Match.
Billy is right in getting every promotion together in a ppv would make money.
Who wins and loses the matches though 🤔
Mr.Corgan need's Mexican Wrestlers to add the high flying ariel action to he's New NWA HIGH FLYING ACTION is very impressive and fun to see .like Esse Rios Jeff Hardy and Rey mysterio style .
One thing i like about NWA power is that the wrestling actually looks like a gritty competition between fighters. Unlike WWE which looks so phony and corny. WWE Smackdown presentation is the worst culprit of that.
Ok your a awesome interviewer I've talked w Billy it's cool.
I had never really heard any actual extended interviews with Billy regarding pro wrestling before. I'm honestly surprised at how many things I disagree with him on. After hearing his thoughts, it doesn't really surprise me that he's always had such trouble finding success in his wrestling ventures.
Wow that was great
Thank You Corgan
24:52 "i was a ufc fan back in the 90s and we used to watched that with the pumpkins on the tour bus"
Man what a life. Play sold out shows and get to watch early UFC on the tour bus
They used to hang out with Dennis Rodman as well.
Ok I'll leave Billy alone after this interview respect.
Great chat Ariel
Excellent
Sweet! 😃
good interview
MJF in the NWA world title picture would be amazing.
great booker
More of these
Nice work Ariel
Billy should merge his NWA with Impact Wrestling and/or World Wrestling League to take on AEW and WWE as the third biggest wrestling organization
Would be interesting to see the NWA/Impact partnership from the early to mid 2000s revived
nice one Ariel
I had no idea Billy C is into this stuff. Great interview!
Check out his Rogan interview
St.Louis is best Professional Wrestling City
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Big surprise. Paul Heyman tried to con someone.
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Billy- it was "Dick the Bruiser" against "Crusher Lisowski"
Why did he buy the NWA only to try to turn it into a WWE developmental thre years later.
This guys the definition of cringe when he was on tna he turned off the only 200 people left watching. Good job
Na that would be Hogan and Bischoff
Ariel is a MUCH better interviewer than Howard. Howard is so overrated as an interviewer.
This guy is the definition of a MARK. This term gets used loosely these days, but this guy fits the original meaning.
big nose .......... small nose
never heard of this guy
Lol Wut? Its Billy Corgan
@@ishmael802
He must be Generation Z
Before I scribe any kind of response to you, let me first ask, are you aware of a 90’s alternative band by the name of the Smashing Pumpkins?
UFC’s modern success came off the back of airing after Monday Night Raw.
It’s a shame because I like the Pumpkins, I like Billy, and he’s a very interesting person to listen to. However I won’t waste my time watching a promotion which continues to book trash like Tyrus, especially when he’s competing for the title. It’s nothing short of insanity!
Why is he trash?
There is nothing wrong with Tyrus. I believe you may dislike him due to his political affiliations?
@@ishmael802 He’s so out of shape he’s practically immobile. If you think there’s nothing wrong with him we obviously have very different expectations from wrestlers!
@Dennis Reynolds I haven’t seen his recent stuff but he does have a monster appeal anf remember his wwe run. I’ll check his new stuff out. Maybe you got a point tbd
Lol I like Billy but NWA is the absolute shits. Not anything close to the OG version
Disliked!
He also know as Kurt Cobains murderer
no he isn't. and no he never was. that would be Courtney.