Massive $1,000 Japanese Ko-ken Tool Haul!
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Ko-ken Zeal Spark Plug Socket - 3300CZ-16 - ¥ 1,545
Ko-ken Zeal 1/4" Universal - 2771Z - ¥2,012
Ko-ken Zeal 3/8" Universal - 3771Z - ¥2,145
Ko-ken Lug Socket Set - 14201M - ¥4,325
Ko-ken Zeal 1/4" Spinner - 2756Z - ¥1,369
Ko-ken Zeal 3/8" Spinner - 3756Z - ¥1,144
Ko-ken Zeal Deep 1/4" Socket Set - RS2300MZ/12 - ¥11,078
Ko-ken Zeal Shallow 1/4" Socket Set - RS2400MZ/12 - ¥5,435
Ko-ken Zeal Deep 3/8" Socket Set - RS3300MZ/12 - ¥10,200
Ko-ken Zeal Shallow 3/8" Socket Set - RS3400MZ/12 - ¥5,543
Ko-ken 3/8" Shallow Surface Drive Socket Set - RS3410M/12 - ¥6,229
Ko-ken 1/4" Nut Grip Swivel Socket - 2441M-10 - ¥2,818
2441M-12 - ¥3,067
2441M-14 - ¥3,570
Ko-ken 3/8" 27mm 12 Point Socket - 3305M-27 - ¥1,808
Ko-ken 3/8" Flare Nut Socket Set - RS3300FN-6 - ¥14,655
Ko-ken 1/2" 13mm Pipe Plug Socket - 4110M-13 - ¥1,253
Ko-ken Zeal 178mm 3/8" Ratchet Handle - 3725Z - ¥2,905
Ko-ken Zeal 1/4" 114mm Ratchet Handle - 2725Z - ¥3,147
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I've been using exclusively Koken for 30 odd years here in New Zealand. My reliable friends.
You're going to find the Koken spark plug socket is absolutely superior to the Snap-On. The Koken will fit in places the Snap-On does not and the rubber insert on the Snap-On dies rendering the retention feature completely useless while the spring clip on the Koken simply works. The flare nut sockets can be an absolute time and wrencher saver. This design is a Koken original with Snap-On being the copy. Skipped sized are based on industry metric tube nut and fitting sizes. The other Koken original socket that is extremely useful, their three pin cam drive stud removal-installer socket. This design is licensed to others who offer this type of stud socket. Koken offers a host of sockets not made or offered by other brands. Their standard sockets are as good as any other high quality brand.
~Koken is one of many examples of international tools that are superior to Snap-On at lower cost.~
You right on that, they great and pretty unique design.
Lot of the Koken Socketry total top end effort and trumps the tool trucks in design quality and price by a mile .
The Hazet spark plug socket is the best
After I got into a disagreement with my Snap-On dealer over their "lifetime warranty," I sold off my entire 20-year collection. I bought all-new Ko-Ken tools, and have had zero problems for 3 or 4 years, now. Best decision I ever made.
I was stationed in Japan during the nineties…the country is obsessed with customer service and quality.
BTW…love Vessel JIS screwdrivers too…I always pick them up first when working on Japanese cars, bicycles or other consumer goods.
@@DogRedful Yes, Vessel screwdrivers are good as well -- I bought a few on Rakuten years ago.
They do from Ko-ken USA when purchased from them.
Sold off 20 years of Snap on because of one dumb shit snap on dealer? Dealers come and go, your snap on warranty is well………lifetime 😂
You got to be an idiot for getting rid of your 20year old snap on collection. No way in hell anybody with a sound mind does that lol
Can't believe how amazingly packaged that it, it looks like a perfectly displayed gift basket
Watched the whole thing. Wow, I rarely get jealous about tools, but I'm jealous. These all look like they would make working on a Subaru or any Japanese car a dream. The US designed stuff really just doesn't "get it" especially when it comes to cheaper tools. Funny too, because I literally needed one of those 13mm plug sockets last night for the first time in ages. The ratchet sizes, the hex U-joints, the swivel grip sockets, all look super awesome! Great haul. Excited for the review.
My thoughts as well.
Got into Koken based on another fella’s YT channel and and got my mind blown with the hex ball u joints. Glad you are giving them some much deserved love and admiration on your channel.
I almost exclusively use Koken. They are awesome, feel great and have never let me down. I work on motorcycles and their T-bar wrenches are out of this world, the satin finish makes them very nice to use, as they spin so freely in your hands. They also do a lot of motorcycle specific tools, like a 27 mm socket with 3/8" drive (for KTM's), 46 1/2" drive (Ducati), and a superb short flexible 3/8" ratchet which is amazing. Top quality and in my opinion, better than Snap-On.
Wish I knew about these tools along time ago. Thanks. Look like awesome tools
Thanks for showing us those great tools
They look impressive. Isn't it funny that here in the states all we know is snap on. Just at a quick look a few things looked better right away.
You realize that you're just making me want Japanese tools now to go with my Japanese vehicles....
Lol
Very well made demonstration/comparison video! Thanks
A fitter/mechanic and friend had been using for years a Koken socket set. That same socket set he gave to me before he passed . That was about twelve years ago. Classified as vintage now and the ratchet still has no issues. Reliable I think so.
Sorry to hear about his passing. Great tools indeed. 👍🏻
@@MrSubaru1387 Thanks for that. Much Appreciated. 👍I wasn't going to mention that. But I know some would be saying. Can be that good if he just gave it away. I didn't want to give Koken an unfair bad reputation.
How funny I’ve always felt and thought of the same thing about the universal joints how they could’ve made it like a half shaft ball bearing, also in the 90s when I was a kid I had an idea about LCD Display in cars I figured it would probably come around in the 2000s to where you could put your tachometer where you wanted it look at we have today digital dashboards for tachometers and odometers 🤔
Happy New Year. I think you hit the jackpot with this set. I never heard of them!
I really like my Ko'ken wobble plus extensions, their quality, feel and design are far better then Snap-on in my opinion. They are not as shiny as Snap-on but the slim design and the knurled top part makes them really nice tools. And this comes from a Snap-on tools "collector" 😁
Awesome looking tools
Good video. I've been looking around to expand my japanese collection of tools. Love Vampliers, Nepros also
Hey those tools are really good 👍
I have a lot of Koken sockets , hard to find here in the UK. Top quality.
Nice stuff just the import duties to Europe keep me from ordering it
Wow what a super interesting video
Americans love their Ko-ken!
I'm definitely digging it!
Underrated as hell ☠️
Some Snap-On subordinate is going to get all angry over your comment 😁😜✌.
you see the retaining ring impacts and sockets often in the construction industry and when tethered tools are required. often when a worker will be in an elevated position to protect people below from dropped tools.
That is really interesting. I had no idea Japan made there own specialty tools for Japanese cars. On some items there just as expensive as Snap On anyways.
How do these Ko-Ken sockets compare to snap-on sockets? If you were to only be able to have one or the other which would you choose? Thank you.
Awesome work I will go on Amazon and get some bit man those things are expensive 😂
Recently had to borrow the snap on universal sockets in 1/4 shown here.
Was looking at investing in them.
The full 5 to 15 snap on set is north of $600.
The koken is $250.
Yeah. I cannot say thank you enough to you Mr. Subaru for showing a side by side comparison.
Love the vid. Snap on now has Japanese made tools. Anex tools makes them. It’s a low pro offset screwdriver.
very kool !!!
I still have a lot of Japanese tools from years ago.
Nice haul. We have a fair bit of Koken here in Australia. I love the Z series swivels. The crowfoot sockets are great because you have no offset when using a torque wrench, very useful for fuel pipes. I'd also highly recommend their wobble-plus extensions, the knurling on them is so nice, a real pleasure to use and much cheaper than Snap-On (in Aus at least). Nice vid!
Adam Willison hey mate where are you getting your Koken from? I tired the JP Amazon site but not much ships to Aus. I’m in Sydney BTW.
@@dmbassett Don't know who the importer is but Austools stock them, and who ever stocks White International/Endeavour stuff
damn this is nice 😍, you have a lot of tools 😆. What man doesn’t need tools
That’s a great idea I love that company have a few things from them. Very high quality tools just worry about warranty. And wanted to say grey pneumatic has that odd driverhink it’s called 6s used on a 1/4 swivel magnetic impact set that’s my most used socket set.
Good point! These do look like tools I would use on my "nice stuff" and not beat the crap out of. Really stuck rusted bolt? Break out the Harbor Freight! Hah. These would definitely be big time and frustration savers for general work though. :)
Modern high quality hand tools rarely fail when used properly. I've owned-used Stahlwille, Proto (Southern California, NOT stanley ? made), Wright Tool, Facom, Bonney-Utica, Snap-On, Craftsman (Western Forge USA, NOT China made), TopTul (Taiwan), Granco, Koken, Brit tool, Apex tool, Omega and countless others over decades of wrenching with zero failures. There was a time post WW-II when hand tool failures were common. This is the origins of Snap-On's "Lifetime Warranty" it was really a Marketing move to help promote their stuff during a time when US of A made tools can be questionable. The Lifetime warranty projected the impression their tools were absolutely superior over any and they would last a lifetime... in reality ALL hand tools wear out and can be broken if properly abused. Today, Snap-On compensates for their absurd cost by this "lifetime warranty" with a good percentage of that going to the tool truck driver except that percentage that would have gone to the tool truck driver goes to Snap-On stock holders-investors-bankers (NOT their employees) when purchasing Snap-On via the web.
~Do NOT purchase high quality hand tools strictly based on "lifetime" warranty alone, Do NOT fall for the marketing BS.~
Rupunzel I agree with the chromes but for like impacts doesn’t matter how good the brand is they will eventually wear out.
@@LEGOCAMARO Impact socket wear out regardless of brand. It is a matter of how hard they are forced to hit, how many time, how long. Eventually they all wear out or die in some way.
Best impact sockets made are Momento in Sweden (distributed by Hytorc in USA)
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, Ozat Israel, Wright Tool US of A. in that order. Snap-On at the bottom of the pile as their impact sockets are soft. Yes, they can be warrantied, but that gets tiresome and their impact sockets are NOT low cost. Hazard Fraught Pro (Taiwan) holds up surprisingly well for their cost. These are likely made by Tien-i in Taiwan:
www.tien-i.com
A set of HF pro 1/2" drive impact sockets can be had for about $26 with the coupon and they are lifetime warranty. So, purchase no less than two sets. If one socket dies, get another from the spare sets and wrench on. Once time allows, take the busted-wore out HF socket back for replacement and wrench on again. BTW, more powerful the impact wrench the more beating the sockets must take.
Sweet. I was bummed it was taken down last night
Yea... Missed an edit... Lol
I was actually watching it when it came down. Was like huh? 😃
Koken do some really nice socketry, some of the more special sockets like the retaining sockets totally unique .
Those wheel nut sockets also a great design as well as quality .
Extensions and wobble joints also pretty unique top end effort .
Ratchets are quality and legendary low backdrag but I find handles too short and to many 70 to 90 tooth count ratchets of great design and less cost, Still nice have few Koken ones the special scenarios .
I got Koken sockets over 25yrs old, they hold up well but chrome flaking was bad on earlier tools .
They great buy off amazon if do your due diligence on pricing .
Stahwille open box series 13 and 14 another great tool for subarus, the ring offset on those along with fitment precision make impossible a 30 second job at times, Facom reversable wrenches a gem too and their extendable handle ratchets are quality/value, they all pretty cheap on amazon germany too .
Stahlwille is another excellent brand with a very long record and history of excellence. They are very common in the Aerospace industry from Airbus, Boeing, Rolls Royce and many-many others use Stahlwille exclusively. First set of Stahlwille# 14 combo wrenches were purchased in the late 1970's. Still have and use the to this day, countless stuff they have wrenched on and have held up excellent given how they have been used over all those decades. The Stahlwille# 14 has a drop style box end instead of the direct angle box end that is the most common design. That drop box design will allow access into places the direct angle design cannot reach. The Stahlwille# 14 drop box end is angled at 10 degrees instead of 15 degrees for the direct angle box, 10 degrees produces lower side loading, this reduces the possibility of the box end slipping off when a LOT of torque needs to be applied. Stahlwille# 13 short combo simply works. Notable is the lower weight, satin non-chrome, groove in the center design results in a much lesser tendency for the wrench to slip once there is moto goo on the hands. All these details reduces wrencher fatigue over hours of wrenching with better wrench control.
I've moved all the Snap-On bright, smooth, shiny chrome combo wrenches and have replaced then with Stahlwille, absolutely zero regrets as the Stahlwille wrenches are simply that much superior in every way. For basic hand tools Stahlwille is just excellent.
@@rupunzel6299
I quite agree, the stahlwille satin finish is just perfect in ergonomics and durability .
I had sets since the early 90's and they still A1 besides a 10mm that I shorted on a truck battery, learn't me a lesson though .
box end angle and offset is superb, I was never a fan of snapon wrenches, too bulky and slippery .
Very nice just purchased a bunch of nut gripping sockets. Saw them on cp tools whom you are familiar with I did use your5 percent code. Thanks for exposing Koken to us. I already owned some koken but was unaware of the nut gripping sockets
Awesome! You're welcome. Glad CP was able to bring you to new Ko-ken products!
@@MrSubaru1387 he pointed me back to you. I must have missed some of those vids CZcams’s doing really screwy things
The main question here is warranty. How would you warranty these tools if applicable.
I think Ko-Ken is the best japanese socket.
Back again to have another envious look!
I have now invested in the nut grip sockets for that rare occasion when I need one.
Only that rare occasion has multiplied now I have them. I use them far more than expected.
Looking at the swivel nut grip set now.
Is there a part number for the Koken retainer clip for the impacts? I would love a couple of them.
Edit: Koken PKC 42. Found them
Something very very interesting . . . About Those Flare nut sockets. I am an electrician and I've own a tool with that same design that is made for a completely different purpose. That is the same design as a Coax TNC Connector (Do a google search for " Ideal 35-046 " to see what I'm talking about) but TNC Connectors are made with a screwdriver style handle whereas those flare nut sockets are sockets, but the design is the same.
I wish I had seen this before I just spend $2k on Hazet sockets. On the other hand, perhaps the Koken would have cost me twice as much for the same things. Their prices are more in line with Snap On (but not quite that crazy). I was attracted to Hazet because the prices are 75% less than Snap On and I believe quality is just as good. I also prefer the matte finish, because gloss chrome tools look beat up when they are used, and Matte look new forever.
That 13mm square pipe plug socket @6:00 is essential for Nissan too. You can tell when someone has busted one open with a 1/2" extension, it mangles it.
I have to agree there better than icon plus since you are Subaru tech it's proper to try there tools
Man I hope you’re not paying for these tools, you’ve sold more Koken than any CZcamsr, they should be sending you this gear for free
I definitely did. Lol. Got the receipts to prove it. 😂 😂
I really like Koken tools except ratchets. Teeth count is low so it’s very slow. Another Koken tool I found useful is 3/8 powerbar 3768p.
Have to check that out.
Ben Nakajima I thought that, initially but I’ve become a convert to Ko-Ken ratchets because of the very low back drag, great for starting bolts, especially when you combine them with the Quick Spinners they do.
Deebo1812 Koken Ratchets are good if you can get a space for full turn. But the most of times, you cannot. This is the time when Koken ratchets slow you down.
Ben Nakajima True dat.
@@tnak004 Use a different socket drive attachment like a Tee handle. If getting at the nut/bolt with a long extension ( 350mm Plus) is often faster than any ratchet. If really pressed for space, flex head Gearwrench or similar works better than any high tooth count ratchet. Then we have the cordless impact which is FAR faster than any hand wrenching item. I'm not one to use ratchets for breaking nuts/bolts loose as habit. I'll put a LONG box wrench on the target nut/bolt first if possible to break it loose then apply what ever is needed to remove it. Far preferred is using a Milwaukee cordless with a long extension and swivel or non swivel socket as first item to take stuff apart. If the thing is stuck, out comes the 3/4" drive Milwaukee cordless, if that does not do it (yet to happen) the3/4" drive 1600 ft/lb ATP air impact will remove it or break it.
I've been suffering with insomnia for the last 4 months have not gotten to sleep at all it's been miserable. I found this video 5 minutes I was knocked out
Check out Nepros, that is the Japanese version of snap on.
Already have some Nepros on order. 👍🏻
Bro you are paying so much more for shipping here in the states!!! You really should just plan a trip to japan. See the country and bring home some tools even some nice jdm things you cant find in the us. Send it home or to somebody who can recieve your packages for you in the us. And you would save so much money and japan is so amazing you would enjoy yourself i promise
Hey MrSubaru I was looking at your specialty tools list and I was wondering if by any chance you would know where I can get the special 5 point torx 40 bit for doing the back lash on electric rack and pinion. I'm a Subaru tech in NC but someone has misplaced or walked off with the shops tool and the special wrenches for it as well. I went to my parts manager about it and I've been getting the run around. I also went to my local Matco dealer about it for the bit because stis says I can get it from Matco but my guy couldn't find it can you give me some direction
Referring to subaru.service-solutions.com/Detail.aspx?id=1400&cid=10
Koken is lovely stuff, I think you have to own some of their stuff to appreciate how good Japanese quality is.
The other high end tool manufacturer in Nepros, I think it is KTC's top of the range. Their ratchets are beyond perfect
Have some Nepros/KTC in the cart right now. Just waiting to check out!
@@MrSubaru1387 Please give us a review of the KTC nePros
Reference was made to your video at garagejournal.com. I've been a happy user and am a huge fan. Nice haul!
In my research, I watched a lot of your videos, which I greatly enjoyed. Quite jealous of your visits to Japan and shopping in all the unique tool shops. Hopefully someday I'll make it across the ocean to visit the land of the rising sun.
@@MrSubaru1387 Thank you very much.
I hope 2020 is the year for you to achieve that mission. :D
I followed every single post of ChrisCas on GJ and youtube when i was researching tools. Excellent help.
Pls do a german Edition with Stahlwille or wera 🙏 and the pin is just that the socket doesn't fly of , just safety
I've done some Hazet and Stahlwille videos. Just got some Hazet tools in, will be filming them.
The problem with ordering koken from amazon japan is they dont include the sticker :(
Yeah. Luckily you can order domestically from Ko-ken USA! Check out their e-commerce site, palmac.net. You can get 5% off you order by using the coupon code MrSubaru5 at checkout. 👍🏻
What about warranty? I doubt anything can be done outside of Japan unless you just rebuy what stops working?
Ko-ken has established itself in the USA, but they're just starting out. Only 5 dealers in the US currently. I may be able to get warranty via them, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. I'll be sure to make a video on the warranty.
Idk how it is in USA but they are sold by Würth in Europe, I busted a 22mm socket using a 6 foot cheater bar and i got a new socket without any questions asked ;)
The unique V notch is only on the Z Series...They use it even on the Z series wobble sockets...
Would there be a lot of play from the koken sockets on the snap on ratchet?
No lore than Snap-on to Snap-on.
We only use koken sockets in my tyre shop
Nice
Where do you find them I can’t find them on Amazon japan
Is the shipping expensive off amazon japan?
A 1/2"(12.7mm) socket should fit a 13mm hex better than a 13mm socket, if it's not too tight to fit
If these tools hold up like some japanese cars it’s worth the extra💰 I wonder if they hold up better than snap on
We shall see. Been testing them this week. We'll have some more insight after a couple months.
Why does anyone bother with chrome ,
Literally I don’t use chrome sockets anymore.
I have all 1/4 drive, 3/8 drive, 1/2 drive impact sockets all used with locking extensions and I never have a problem with wear or dropping a socket.
And they’re not even snap on.
Only my locking extensions
If you're interested in Japanese tools, look at tone, vessel, engineer, and hozan tools also
From what I read that is a torque stick on the lug sockets
I have some Nepros tools very nice
Looking at a few KTC and Nepros items as well. 👍🏻
Any ko-ken tools you recommend for a diy
I’ve been looking for a cheaper flare but socket set then snap on $450 just looked these ones up there about $270 that’s still pretty crazy I wish I could find a cheaper set.
Weird, I got them for $134USD on Amazon.jp.
MrSubaru1387 do u happen to have a link to these on amazon cause I looked again says I can get them for 164 if I get a amazon credit card lol but not doing that. Says $70 off with amazon card lol
Do they have complete sets?
I spilled a little bit of oil while doing my oil change on my 19 forester do you think it’ll be fine?
very nice vid and tools.. how did u order via amazon japan i can't get to long on the site
Amazon.JP Select English. Create an account. Browse, select, checkout.
@@MrSubaru1387 Thank you. Bought a few of these to take care of my wife's Forester spark plug and differential service!
Does koken honor their warranty when purchasing from Amazon JP?
I would like to know this as well
This is so neat
Wait wait... ordered from co.jp and it arrived less than 5 biz days??
Ordered before Christmas, shipped last Friday, arrived this Monday.
Yes on Amazon...you show interest and save in cart while shopping and searching then......price increases same day and through the week
Kinda messed up YEP
Have you looked into Nepros tools ? Very nlce !
Yup. Check my other Japanese tool videos. 👍🏻
Socket koken is number one
japan
Were they expensive due to them being imported or would you say they are on par with snap on quality?
They're quite a bit cheaper than Snap-on, item for item. On par quality wise, as far as I can tell at first impression.
Seems like the equivalent of kincrome or sidchrome here in Australia
2 Stroke, Running and repair I can tell you now it’s way higher quality than kincrome or side Sidchorme you get in Australia or in New Zealand sidchorme is rebranded Stanley tools mead in Taiwan no longer mead in Australia not for meany years.. I would compare koken tools to snap on tools or stahlWille tools and maybe Mac tools USA mead not Taiwan..
So if it’s really from Japan how many 10 mm socket do they give you 😝
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Are these impact sockets including the Z line?
The wheel nut sockets, no.
@@MrSubaru1387 How do your order through Amazon Japan? do you just go to the site and order from there. If so, is there additional shipping fees?
Yup. Just Amazon.jp make an account and order. You can buy koken in the USA though kokenusa.com. Order through Palmac.net. Use promo code MrSubaru5 for 5% off your order. Cheaper than the shipping from Japan.
Snap-On wishes its sockets were Koken
Those universal joints limit the angle to 60 degrees so they don't flop around and twist up as you try to use them. They are absolutely excellent. I used mine today. I carry them all over the country every week.
Sold ! Amazing quality and more…
Happy birthday , January 3 .
Great videos but I still feel like you paid a hell of a lot and barely got a beginner's size set of tools. They look nice but still a grand is a lot .
theturdhammer if that was snap on there would be 2 rails of sockets and a ratchet.... trust me I know
JDM sockets yo
Almot more expensive on amazon.ca that o2 sensor set or flare nut set is 333$ way to expensize
They were $134USD for me.
Those universals look like my matco ones... the matco ones look like a weird ball spline not hex like that
Take a shot everytime he says koken
Gonna get blackout drunk. Lol
Order some nepros next time :)
Already done. 👍🏻
What's better nepros or koken? Been dying some nepros stuff and are they really as good as Snap in and Mac
👍 🇯🇵 🔧
Its more Nepros is the "Snap-On of Japan". KTC is the "Blue Point"
I used to be an onion farmer in NYS. I used to buy exclusively American tools with the exception of Knipex. However, the average American can no longer afford our own products. I can't stand that.
Nice stuff just the import duties to Europe keep me back from ordering it
Koken “Surface Drive”. Matco makes entire sets in impact in 1/4-1/2 drive sizes, Metric and SAE
Ko-ken owns the patent..
Sound like cocain 😆😆😆
Pretty much the same addictivity.
sorry but thats noth worh $1,000 in my eyes
😂😂😂😂😂 did you really just compare anap-on to kokhen?
Frankstools.com Not sure if you ever saw that sight. Almost all Japanese. Some brands you might not be familiar with as well as Koken, KTC, Nepro. Some nice automotive specialty tools. Prices look good, but I never have ordered from them.