Hondas have a thing where when u shift the paddles they still go in auto and shift themselves. Well in Normal mode at least. Not sure why it still went auto in sport mode. Probably he didn't put in sport
@@NicotineRosberg tbh I dont think it went auto at all in this situation. You can hear him click the paddle for each gear shift he made when he said that. Including when he kicked up a gear because he had shifted too many times
Not really. Less gears mean less braking points and less shifting through gears which saves time. 10 speeds are meant for fuel economy and highway cruising not speed. If more gears meant going faster F1 cars or dragstar would have had 20 gears.
@@RAAUUULLLL4268 There is some truth in this. But after all, a large number of gears also contributes to faster acceleration, because each subsequent gear is already at the peak of power and it is easier for the engine to spin it up to the next one
Couldn’t believe the specs when that fusion first came out .. definitely something you wouldn’t expect from a fusion .. hate that they discontinued it . Run it against a Taurus SHO
I ran mine against one at like 5 lights in a row. If you brake boost it, it launches way harder than the sho. But by about the top of 3rd, he started pulling and passed me.
@@justsomeguy697 I do have the 2019 Fusion Sport and it does look like a grandma grocery getter car lol 😂 Also, I love the faces of drivers at the stop lights on the right lane trying to merge onto the middle lane when they couldn’t catch up or beat me to cut me off too 😂 I keep mine stocks 100% so it looks and sounds like a 180hp Fusion since I took of the “Sport” badge but kept the “Ford” & “Fusion”. I had it tuned to 93 so I might be pushing a little more than stock for sure.
It costed more than the accord new tho , especially the sport with the 2.7tt v6 . The accord 2.0T touring is same price the the fusion 2.0T titanium. The fusion was cool becuz for 3-4k more than its competition you get a way faster dad car . Problem is if your buying a family sedan , theirs a lot better options , but i guess if your priority is speed when getting a family sedan , knock yourself out
@@alexion7160 Actually one of Fusion Sport versions did cost about the same as the Accord Touring and because they were not selling all that well it was possible to get it significantly less. I know because I strongly considered it at the time but unfortunately did not end up pulling the trigger. By the time I was ready the car disappeared off lots like a fart in the wind. Just my luck...
@@alexion7160 what lack of options do you speak of. My fusion sport has lane keep/auto cruise/auto parking/awd/great sound system/carplay/moonroof/heated and cooled seats/park sensors/remote start on key fob and Ford app)/auto high beams...and it looks amazing in silver...what options is it missing again?
The Accord 2.0T does pretty well; could probably be a hair faster as a 2.0T Sport which is a bit lighter than the Touring version. That said, you should try to sync up this same Fusion and the TLX Type S.
@@dakotawoodruff2622 😑its a 3.0 twin turbo,acura is not mercedes,they have a lot of performance parts,transmission ect,its not the vinyl leather trust me.
@@elic5355 no but the other Gentleman is correct. Your right it's not a Mercedes but it does have a double wishbone suspension in the front. The SH-AWD system is a pretty penny aswell. The Acura is a proven dependable vehicle. Ford has a bad track record with that. That said I'm extremely disappointed in Acura for not going the extra mile and if the Fusion beat it its embarrassing. But it would def b close
Yea in his first fusion sport video he even said he was had forgotten about fusion sport and eluded to the fact he was not familiar. Fusions are built on a FWD platform. The sports have a FWD biased AWD system. From a roll is going to be when FWD, AWD, RWD won’t matter unless you are dealing with extremely high horsepower applications or weather
@@flip90925 yeah , the camry isnt much much more reliable than the accord. Accord is faster, better looking and more comfortable. Camry reliability 10/10 , accord reliability 9.5/10 , but accord is better in everything else. Accord is quieter , more comfrotable , more refined and has a better suspension set up . With all that being said , i wouldn't blame anyone for going for a camry , i love the camrys 3.5L V6 , its silky smooth .
@@alexion7160 I had the 2019 Camry xse v4 and for sure the Camry has a better ride quality I just bought the accord special edition 1.5t 2022 and man can you feel the bumps much more On the accord that is something I don’t like and Camry is definitely much better at that overall I still would choose the accord again because Toyota has a very old setup inside the dash is all analog and feels old so this time I tried Honda Accord and everything is good expect the what I mentioned so far
@@trelltheguy nah it won’t. Kia won’t have the top end to hang with the fusion. Displacement, 2 more cylinders, power advantage and one more turbo. All play a huge role in top end because of fueling and efficiency of the turbo/s
@@zacharycropper5532 no. The K5 will have the better top end and will win on roll races. The K5 is also underrated. The fusion is AWD, heavier and has a 6 speed. The DSG in the K5 is going to make night and day difference in the top end. The K5 is lighter, has a better transmission, and does lose power on a roll like the fusion does. The K5 traps 106. The fusion traps 102. The K5 is a hefty 2.5. Trust me dig races will go to fusion, roll and top end will go to K5
The fusion sport is not in the same class as the accord 2.0t . His prices are wrong . When new the sport costed 5-6k more. The ford fusion titanium competes against the honda accord touring. Both have 2.0T and same price but the accord beats it .
@@Tsand4 Yep and the 3681 lbs they have listed here (they listed this same weight the last time when running that Ecoboost Mustang) is basically for a bare bones FWD 4 cylinder Fusion. 400-500 lbs difference is a big damn difference. So the real difference between these two cars is more like 700 lbs in all reality.
Sam, another interesting race. When I saw the weight to power ratio, I could have guessed at the outcome of the race. Honda really needs to up the horsepower of the Accord before including AWD in the Accord.
Why, the Accord isn't a race car, it's a family vehicle, at least that's what it's geared toward. Why wasn't the Civic Type R in on this race. That's what you buy if you want more power and handling.
@@Theyralltakenfu yeah never understood this lol. Not to mention the k20c4 is underrated from the factory. They dyno regularly in the 240s which has it around 280ish to the crank, 30hp more than what Honda rates it at. It’s plenty for a daily sedan. If you want more power just type r turbo swap and tune and you’ll be 350+whp all day long. But they aren’t race cars, just really solid daily’s that are kinda quick.
I've beaten both with my 2017 fusion sport......only loose by a length against the red sport....... actually took the red sport off the line but he caught up......the 3.7 and 3.0t only have 286lbs torque to my 380...... I also beat 5.7 RT chargers and challengers...... mustangs with the 4.6.....only loose by couple lengths to scat packs but I also take them off the line....
Hello brother, great video. Keep them coming. I really want to see you compare the V6 Mustang to the competition. Hardly anyone compares that car, so I would love to see how it performs and thank you.
Accord weighs 3,428 if it's the touring model. Good runs tho. The Accord has about 4-500lbs advantage but not enough to make up for the 💯+ ft lbs of torque & 75 hp more in the Ford's V6 & AWD vs Accord's 4 banger 2.0t & FWD... 🤷🏻
I drive a 15 fusion ecoboost and love it! I wish I would have gotten the Sport! Would be so cool if Ford brought back the fusion sport with like 380hp and 400TQ.
To be fair, even though this Accord would smoke a Camry, Honda never intended for the Accord 2.0 to be winning all races. Otherwise, this car would've been called the Accord SI or Accord Type R. Similar to how a Camry XSE is not called the "Camry TRD line", the Accord Sport is not even called "SI line" or "Type R line". You're comparing something never meant to be performance against something that is meant to be performance. Meanwhile, Fusion Sport was meant to be performance because this was during a time when Ford had a different leadership than Ford today. Back then, they intended Sport to be the performance because the previous management, unlike today's Ford management, thought that calling it "ST" would be out of place. The reason why today, Fords that would've been called Sport are now called ST and they now use "Sport" for either a looks package or a smaller version of a car is because Ford has new management. For example, the Edge ST that came out in 2019 was just a rebranding of the Edge Sport because the 2019 Edge ST is mechanically the same as the 2018 Edge Sport. The Accord is great for what Honda intended, and the Fusion was great for what Ford's previous management intended.
The Fusion Sport was never meant to be a performance car. The Ford Performance division never touched it. When this vehicle came out, there were Focus STs, Focus RS, Fiesta STs, GT350, etc. Those were molded by Ford Performance: brakes, suspension, tires etc. The Fusion Sport literally has the 2.7 and a transmission that’s able to handle it and that’s it. Just like the Accord.
@@Tsand4 nope . dont be ignorant. The 330i bmw beats the a4 , while the accord beat the 330i ... he literally has a video on his channel where the accord beats the 330i
@@glistud8178 well throttle house showed that accord was ahead than the gli stock to stock and if you’re talking about sam’s race between accord vs gli both were tuned if i remember correctly
@samcarlegion bro you have to fix the stats… base 4 cyl fwd non turbo fusion weighs 3600lbs. The sport in the video is 401a fully loaded v6tt sunroof and awd is 4100lbs
Sam I recommend you put the 2021 Mazda3 Sedan turbo against both of those cars including the 2021 Subaru WRX. That would give them a good run for the money.
I have a 19 sport and These SS Camaros, 5.0 Mustangs, And scats always are like damn what you got in there!!!!! I get em all at the start but man a 60 roll they got me all day long! But love my fusion! I wanna tune it and add a new inner cooler and Air intake.
I don’t think the Honda 2.0T is a standout in a market full of 2.0L turbo engines as most of them are within a few hp of each other. Standouts would be the Volvo T6 2.0L in their Polestar cars a few years ago with ~360 hp or the Mercedes AMG 2.0L at ~380 hp.
@@ghostwrench2292 Well you could have also mentioned that the 2.0L from the Volvo is *both* turbocharged and supercharged. The Accord 2.0T is only turbocharged but makes 273 lb-ft before 2000 rpm and does it all on regular gas. For it's target demographic, it's a standout imho
Lmao 😂😂😂 reminds me of yesterday. Someone in a civic tried to race my mkz 3.0 awd andi barely gassed it. And he had it barried. He was trying so hard and i wasnt even giving a shit. And then he tried to floor again when i let off as if he was going to beat me. Lol. Dude doesnt even realize i dont even have it sport mode 😂😂😂😂.
Had a 2008 2.3 fusion was very quick sprint left anything on the Road....I have the 2012 2.5 fusion SE not too fast but I want to know if it can relearn to be aggressive on the road?
I feel like this channel hates Honda Accord or the driver can't drive because if u watch other channels, the Accord is one of the best fastest sedan compare to others 🤨🤨🤨
I always doubted the numbers on the Accord and Fusion. On paper the Accord has been said to be the same speed and sometimes faster. I drive a Fusion SE model and I overtake people with a tiny engine. Ain't no way the Accord sport can even touch a Fusion Sport. Man I wish ford bring this car back.
Ford had built a really really balanced car with the Fusion SPORT. The problem was all the other Fusion's which made up the majority of the fusion sales were garbage, and most people thought the fusion was just that. Ford should have only EVER offered the Fusion in the sport model. Also these Fusion sports were really expensive like $55,000, at that point its hard not to start looking at BMW etc.... If Ford would have only sold the Fusion sport model not the other models and at a slightly cheaper sticker price, you'd have a whole bunch of moded Fusion Sports embarrasing a lot of way more expensive cars out on the streets today. However mayby its a good thing, because there are not many of these sleeper Fusion Sports on the road which sorta adds a cool factor I guess.
I've owned these two cars fusion, than accord 2.0, tuned them both. AWD is a huge advantage for the fusion for dig races. They are surprisingly close in acceleration.
...in 20years from now, whilst living in the junkyard, the Fusion will still put bus lengths on that Honda... Also, the engine and gearbox is literally shared with F150's so it will run till the end of days and you will still get parts for it long after people forgot how big the gap was in this race.
I own a couple ford's. So I'm allowed. My cruiser (crown Vic) has 486,xxx miles. Last night I popped a curb at 50mph, ran over stop sign with no oil. And she still has a few hundred thousand miles left. As long as I give her oil.
Yes while the Accord soldiers on rusting from the inside out....dont they still do that?! Not to mention...get real! We keep cars longer than ever, but 20 years...please stop.
All the excitement of racing a 86 Chryco Le Baron GTS 5sp 2.2L vs a Ford Taurus 5sp 2.5L: Two family sedans offering a combination of the last vestiges of youthful, carefree driving, while slowly succumbing to the raveges of middle age, like having the Tom Petty channel on XM, 24-7, checking what's left of your hairline in the visor mirror, undoing your belt after you sit and fasten your safety belt, lettng that bulging gut stretch... 😩
Imagine getting a new Honda Accord in the first thing that hits your brain is like man.... it would be almost perfect but that gas door needs to look like it was involved in the accident first. Sweet! unpainted gas door at last! Now all the car guys will know my car is custom. And in case it didn't it's got the type R badge because we all know Honda made type-r Accords. Soccer moms at intersections across Suburbia will be foiled for sure
Fusion Sport is a car you own if you want to be absolutely faster than your midsized sedan peers. However, the transmission, driving experience and interiors are typical Ford, which is a huge letdown.
The interior is actually great in them . The fusions were very well built . The interiors felt quality , and remember , the fusion competed with the 2013-2018 honda accord and the 2014-2019 camry so in comparison year for year the fusion was actually on par if not better in terms of materials. I do agree with you on the transmission , but it was only a let down when trying to do quarter mile times which no one ever does with a fusion . The fusion with the 2.7tt v6 is a family car with extra power. They were also very quiet. Only let down id say when comparing it against the camry or accords was the reliability. Plus the fusion came with awd first and if you want a camry with awd it has to be 2021+ and can only get it in hybrid with a 4 cylinder while the accord still doesn't offer awd. Im still a honda fan boy but the 2013-2019 fusions were very well built. They felt well insulated with great NVH materials
@@alexion7160 LMAO you got jokes...FRom Car and driver"LOWS Options add up quickly, cheapish interior materials, Sport model discontinued." From Motor Trend "Performance and handling aren't up to par Low-quality interior materials Its days are numbered FUSION"s INTERIOR IS TRASH.
@@alexion7160 i had a 204 Fusion and Accord. Accord felt a step above in quality, interiors and driving dynamics. Fusion had AWD but it felt numb and didn’t drove nearly as well. The 6AT on the Fusion was sloppy which is my main complaint. Cruising or getting on it felt like a choir. That’s my take anyway.
I would love to see some times.... What are the 0 to 60 times what are the quarter mile times what are the acceleration times you don't put any of that in here...
you can very easily get 400 BHP out of the sports with not much more then a tune. Impressive cars, Iv'e beaten a couple stick shift Mustang Gt's with my 2017 Sport
@@JudgeFXX accord regularly dynos in the 240 range to the wheels, so if you add 20 percent to make up for loss you’re at about 288bhp. 36hp higher than what Honda rates it at. I actually rarely see the K20C4 dyno less than 240. K5 and N Line sonata are underrated too, they dyno about 280 to the wheels but it still won’t help them on top end where it matters in a race like this, fusion takes the dub I think.
I didn’t even know that this Fusion was ever made. I think it’s cool, but I’ve never read an article about it, seen a commercial about one, or noticed one on the roads. Feels like Ford could have marketed it better.
I wonder why they didn’t do a fusion 2.0 against a Honda accord 2.0 that makes sense and it matches up. Instead you put a V6 against a 4 banger. I own a fusion 2.0 platinum model and it still has a lot of get up and go. Having gone against an accord 2.0 myself I’ve come out on top. This was just a very off ended example
@@plavnyphotography9871 eh not so much. Majority of their power is still made down low and in mid range with a tune and it drops off hard up top. Main reason being 7th gear in the 10speed makes it a dog. Anything after 120 in a 10 speed, tuned or not is just slow. If you want top end you gotta go type r turbo or MHI stage 2. My 2.0 accord is a fun to do pulls in on my stage 2 and 3 flash but it’s not great up top, turbo is too small.
Wow... its funny how I see videos of the Accord 2.0T blowing away Mustards on a Race track. And now the Ford Fusion 2.7T blowing away an Accord 2.0T? Doesn't make sense. Either this guys can't drive or they're trying to make Ford bring back the Fusion.
I love how he blamed the Accord for shifting itself but you can clearly hear him clicking the shifts himself
Hondas have a thing where when u shift the paddles they still go in auto and shift themselves.
Well in Normal mode at least. Not sure why it still went auto in sport mode. Probably he didn't put in sport
@@NicotineRosberg tbh I dont think it went auto at all in this situation. You can hear him click the paddle for each gear shift he made when he said that. Including when he kicked up a gear because he had shifted too many times
@@NicotineRosberg he seems to make silly excuses for obvious driver error like this all the time in his videos.
Right lmao
lmao i agree on this, just doesn’t want to admit he messed up
The fusion has always been a rocket with any of the v6 options; it's underrated, in my opinion.
there is only 1 v6 option on a fusion maybe u meant turbo
@@NadixGamer In the first generation there were two, the 3.0 and 3.5, both NA.
@@stein5763 ahh yes gen my bad
Most American v6 sedans are some highway missiles
Accord inline 4 and FWD car bro
Imagine how fast Fusion could be if it had a 10-speed transmission
I know right!
Not really. Less gears mean less braking points and less shifting through gears which saves time. 10 speeds are meant for fuel economy and highway cruising not speed. If more gears meant going faster F1 cars or dragstar would have had 20 gears.
@@RAAUUULLLL4268 There is some truth in this. But after all, a large number of gears also contributes to faster acceleration, because each subsequent gear is already at the peak of power and it is easier for the engine to spin it up to the next one
@@RAAUUULLLL4268 huh? Are you okay? 🤣
What about a 20 speed?
Couldn’t believe the specs when that fusion first came out .. definitely something you wouldn’t expect from a fusion .. hate that they discontinued it .
Run it against a Taurus SHO
I ran mine against one at like 5 lights in a row. If you brake boost it, it launches way harder than the sho. But by about the top of 3rd, he started pulling and passed me.
@@17calispecial I could see that ofc it’s quicker but looking at the specs and weight I wouldn’t think it’s by much
The taurus sho is very fast
@@kingsports0961 I walked all over one in a v6 accord.
@@Mike-lt6sj you've got a video ?
He messed up on the shifting on the second race 😂
Really doesn't matter. Would of lost regardless.
The eco boost in that car is a sleeper. Good race because the Accord 2.0 is no slouch.
2006-2012 ford fusions are very reliable
Hey Sam! We are waiting for that civic race. Long time no videos
Capable of 4.99 sec 0-60, the Fusion sport will always be the quickest accelerating midsized sedan. I've been waiting for this...
Twin turbos make all the difference
@Water Jogger the m5 would eat the fusion for Breakfast easy
@Water Jogger the model 3 would murder it
@Water Jogger the new m5 beats the hellcat
I prefer my 3.0tt Lincoln MKZ. Pretty much a luxury Fusion with a 3.0 and slightly bigger turbos. I love it as people think that it is slow.
When a sleeper accord gets destroyed by an even more sleeper grandma grocery getter
2.7 twin turbo with awd is a grandma car?? How do you figure? I like the way the fusion looks over the accord.
@@justsomeguy697 I do have the 2019 Fusion Sport and it does look like a grandma grocery getter car lol 😂
Also, I love the faces of drivers at the stop lights on the right lane trying to merge onto the middle lane when they couldn’t catch up or beat me to cut me off too 😂
I keep mine stocks 100% so it looks and sounds like a 180hp Fusion since I took of the “Sport” badge but kept the “Ford” & “Fusion”. I had it tuned to 93 so I might be pushing a little more than stock for sure.
There's fusion sports pushing over 500 hp... Ford just didn't know how to build this car properly.
My 0-60 is 4.66 with stock turbos and only a tune and bolt ons. Can easily get it under 3 seconds with turbos and injectors/ pump.
@thorsonofodin3210 that's what my conworkers called it and me trying to explain it's no ordinary car
Oh man, the normally quick Accord 2.0 got destroyed by this. The Fusion just disappears. What a hot rod sleeper sedan that Fusion is.
It sure is a sleeper! 😁
It costed more than the accord new tho , especially the sport with the 2.7tt v6 . The accord 2.0T touring is same price the the fusion 2.0T titanium. The fusion was cool becuz for 3-4k more than its competition you get a way faster dad car . Problem is if your buying a family sedan , theirs a lot better options , but i guess if your priority is speed when getting a family sedan , knock yourself out
@@alexion7160 Actually one of Fusion Sport versions did cost about the same as the Accord Touring and because they were not selling all that well it was possible to get it significantly less. I know because I strongly considered it at the time but unfortunately did not end up pulling the trigger. By the time I was ready the car disappeared off lots like a fart in the wind. Just my luck...
The Accord is the better car and it's not even close.
@@alexion7160 what lack of options do you speak of. My fusion sport has lane keep/auto cruise/auto parking/awd/great sound system/carplay/moonroof/heated and cooled seats/park sensors/remote start on key fob and Ford app)/auto high beams...and it looks amazing in silver...what options is it missing again?
DAMN !! as a honda guy... this ford is pretty quick seriously goshh
v6 turbo vs 4 cylinder turbo ! of course , plus awd helps the fusion in acceleration
@@alexion7160 excuses excuses 😅😅😂😊
300 hp vs 250 hp. C’mon bruh… 🤦♂️😂
@@glistud8178 Try racing your grandma’s 4cyl automatic station wagon against V6 mustang 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@franchisefred4066 czcams.com/video/wAkiAn9hVhU/video.html. that's a 100HP diff and still a win.
The Accord 2.0T does pretty well; could probably be a hair faster as a 2.0T Sport which is a bit lighter than the Touring version. That said, you should try to sync up this same Fusion and the TLX Type S.
MKZ 3.0 AWD would be a closer, more interesting race against the TLX Type S. I would LOVE to see the Ford Fusion Sport go up against the Taurus SHO.
A type s is 50k lol,lets keep it in the same realm of power and price,the type s would get smoked by a ford sports car in the 50k range
@@elic5355 it's 50k because of the luxury interior not the engine bay.
@@dakotawoodruff2622 😑its a 3.0 twin turbo,acura is not mercedes,they have a lot of performance parts,transmission ect,its not the vinyl leather trust me.
@@elic5355 no but the other Gentleman is correct. Your right it's not a Mercedes but it does have a double wishbone suspension in the front. The SH-AWD system is a pretty penny aswell. The Acura is a proven dependable vehicle. Ford has a bad track record with that. That said I'm extremely disappointed in Acura for not going the extra mile and if the Fusion beat it its embarrassing. But it would def b close
You said the ford was rwd at the beginning but then you said awd helps when he was pulling away lol
Lol i was going to say the same too...sounds like he got confused
@@alexl.102 lmao yea definitely
Yea in his first fusion sport video he even said he was had forgotten about fusion sport and eluded to the fact he was not familiar.
Fusions are built on a FWD platform. The sports have a FWD biased AWD system.
From a roll is going to be when FWD, AWD, RWD won’t matter unless you are dealing with extremely high horsepower applications or weather
@@TeeWadeG we know lol
@@TeeWadeG we weren’t talking about from a roll anyways
Ford Fusion always seemed to be a great value. For many years the Accord and the Fusion were the only two sedans I would consider.
Over a good old trusty camry?
@@flip90925 Haha, yep!
@@flip90925 yeah , the camry isnt much much more reliable than the accord. Accord is faster, better looking and more comfortable. Camry reliability 10/10 , accord reliability 9.5/10 , but accord is better in everything else. Accord is quieter , more comfrotable , more refined and has a better suspension set up . With all that being said , i wouldn't blame anyone for going for a camry , i love the camrys 3.5L V6 , its silky smooth .
*Fusion Sport, Ford did a shit job marketing it
@@alexion7160 I had the 2019 Camry xse v4 and for sure the Camry has a better ride quality I just bought the accord special edition 1.5t 2022 and man can you feel the bumps much more
On the accord that is something I don’t like and Camry is definitely much better at that overall I still would choose the accord again because Toyota has a very old setup inside the dash is all analog and feels old so this time I tried Honda Accord and everything is good expect the what I mentioned so far
Why not put the V6 Fusion against the V6 Accord?
I loved my 2018 Fusion Sport! Definitely a sleeper car. Recently traded it in for a 2022 Kia Stinger GT2
K-5 GT versus the fusion that would be a good race
Awd 325 hp vs fwd 252 hp. No surprises here
The Accord beat many more powerful cars... It also runs a Civic Type R pretty close. So this is a pretty relevant race.
@@CanadianMax you're absolutely correct.
Would love to see a Ford Fusion Sport vs Kia K5 GT.
I wanna see this
Kia gone win
@@trelltheguy nah it won’t. Kia won’t have the top end to hang with the fusion. Displacement, 2 more cylinders, power advantage and one more turbo. All play a huge role in top end because of fueling and efficiency of the turbo/s
@@zacharycropper5532 no. The K5 will have the better top end and will win on roll races. The K5 is also underrated. The fusion is AWD, heavier and has a 6 speed. The DSG in the K5 is going to make night and day difference in the top end. The K5 is lighter, has a better transmission, and does lose power on a roll like the fusion does. The K5 traps 106. The fusion traps 102. The K5 is a hefty 2.5. Trust me dig races will go to fusion, roll and top end will go to K5
@@glistud8178 guess there’s only one way to find out haha
The accord is a fast car.. against a Camry 😅😢😂
It’s fast against other cars too just look up more races in this channel they are surprising sometimes
The fusion sport is not in the same class as the accord 2.0t . His prices are wrong . When new the sport costed 5-6k more. The ford fusion titanium competes against the honda accord touring. Both have 2.0T and same price but the accord beats it .
@@alexion7160 fusion smoked it 😅😅😅😅
2011 Fusion sport with 187k mile still going strong. Ford should bring back fusion and focus. Great video 👍✌️
Smh, they will one day, I'm sure
Lmaoo no they shouldn’t
@@JDMSwervo2001 how come
@@anaccount7923 because no one’s gonna buy them
@@JDMSwervo2001 you’re incorrect on that🤣 if ford brought back the focus st/rs and the fusion sport? They’d sell insanely well
1:40. So now the fusion is a RWD? 🧐
Awd
Great runs, but again the weight of the FS is more like 4000 lbs or so instead of 3700 lbs. Which of course makes it even more impressive
Yup mine weighs over 4200 with me in it
@@ZaksWorld14 Exactly. My MKZ 3.0t AWD with all the options and pano roof was 4400 lbs without me in it....talk about a pig lol.
Yea Car and driver weighs every car they tested. I just checked FS weighed 4138.
@@Tsand4 Yep and the 3681 lbs they have listed here (they listed this same weight the last time when running that Ecoboost Mustang) is basically for a bare bones FWD 4 cylinder Fusion. 400-500 lbs difference is a big damn difference. So the real difference between these two cars is more like 700 lbs in all reality.
@@RC-jg2fz yea people don’t understand manufacturers only list the BASE curb weights for each vehicle. They don’t have to add options etc.
Stinger GT 3.3 VS Fusion Sport
Sam, another interesting race. When I saw the weight to power ratio, I could have guessed at the outcome of the race. Honda really needs to up the horsepower of the Accord before including AWD in the Accord.
Why, the Accord isn't a race car, it's a family vehicle, at least that's what it's geared toward. Why wasn't the Civic Type R in on this race. That's what you buy if you want more power and handling.
@@Theyralltakenfu yeah never understood this lol. Not to mention the k20c4 is underrated from the factory. They dyno regularly in the 240s which has it around 280ish to the crank, 30hp more than what Honda rates it at. It’s plenty for a daily sedan. If you want more power just type r turbo swap and tune and you’ll be 350+whp all day long. But they aren’t race cars, just really solid daily’s that are kinda quick.
@@zacharycropper5532 👍
Infinity q50 with 3.0t engine will be greater competitor to fusion sport. Both are v6 turbocharged and awd.
Should of ran the 2.0 Fusion ecoboost. Would of been a fair fight. The Fusion sport is a beast.
I'd like to see the Fusion Sport against the Q50S 3.7 or 3.0t if that's not available.
That would definitely be more of a challenge. Q50S would probably take it on a roll.
A buddy of mine has the 3.7 Q50 and I must admit, it’s quick
I've beaten both with my 2017 fusion sport......only loose by a length against the red sport....... actually took the red sport off the line but he caught up......the 3.7 and 3.0t only have 286lbs torque to my 380...... I also beat 5.7 RT chargers and challengers...... mustangs with the 4.6.....only loose by couple lengths to scat packs but I also take them off the line....
Waiting for the 1.5T vs 1.6T sonata Sam ( very good video again thank you 🙏 🤩🤩)
Would love to see the Accord with k-tuner to make it closer matched
Can you do a Ford Fusion Sport vs Kia Stinger GT video?
Hello brother, great video. Keep them coming. I really want to see you compare the V6 Mustang to the competition. Hardly anyone compares that car, so I would love to see how it performs and thank you.
What would be interesting is this Fusion vs Type S!
Accord got smoked 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@sharktin240 A car with 70 more horses and AWD, I’d expect it. Go away. Accord hater!
@@limitedreach4446 Honda knew what they were competing against when they launched the car. These are direct competitors.
@@CanadianMax people make the most excuses for Honda and Kia/Hyundai
@@sharktin240 4 cylinder turbo vs 6 cylinder turbo w/ AWD, it’s pretty obvious who’s going to win lol? 🙄
Accord weighs 3,428 if it's the touring model. Good runs tho. The Accord has about 4-500lbs advantage but not enough to make up for the 💯+ ft lbs of torque & 75 hp more in the Ford's V6 & AWD vs Accord's 4 banger 2.0t & FWD... 🤷🏻
That's a lot of weight for only a 75hp advantage so not bad for the fusion
I drive a 15 fusion ecoboost and love it! I wish I would have gotten the Sport! Would be so cool if Ford brought back the fusion sport with like 380hp and 400TQ.
It's called an MKZ
@@bmshaven or Lincoln Continental but thats more like a Taurus lol. Them lincolns have bad/slow trannys tho.
Loving this. Let’s see that tuned fusion vs stock coyote.
You had the Accords specs wrong, that Type R badge gives it at least 80 extra HPs
Hahaah
To be fair, even though this Accord would smoke a Camry, Honda never intended for the Accord 2.0 to be winning all races. Otherwise, this car would've been called the Accord SI or Accord Type R. Similar to how a Camry XSE is not called the "Camry TRD line", the Accord Sport is not even called "SI line" or "Type R line". You're comparing something never meant to be performance against something that is meant to be performance. Meanwhile, Fusion Sport was meant to be performance because this was during a time when Ford had a different leadership than Ford today. Back then, they intended Sport to be the performance because the previous management, unlike today's Ford management, thought that calling it "ST" would be out of place. The reason why today, Fords that would've been called Sport are now called ST and they now use "Sport" for either a looks package or a smaller version of a car is because Ford has new management. For example, the Edge ST that came out in 2019 was just a rebranding of the Edge Sport because the 2019 Edge ST is mechanically the same as the 2018 Edge Sport. The Accord is great for what Honda intended, and the Fusion was great for what Ford's previous management intended.
The Fusion Sport was never meant to be a performance car. The Ford Performance division never touched it. When this vehicle came out, there were Focus STs, Focus RS, Fiesta STs, GT350, etc. Those were molded by Ford Performance: brakes, suspension, tires etc. The Fusion Sport literally has the 2.7 and a transmission that’s able to handle it and that’s it. Just like the Accord.
They're both fantastic cars, you get the accord for better efficiency, and the fusion for the awd and power.
Proud 2 own Fusion!
Polymerization 😎
We need a 2019 Audi A4 vs 2019 Accord 2.0t.
A4 would walk it. A4 is just as quick if not quicker then the fusion sport.
will be a Pretty tight race considering the previous 330i vs 2.0T accord on a roll . But positive the accord got this one as well with the A4 .
@@Tsand4 nope . dont be ignorant. The 330i bmw beats the a4 , while the accord beat the 330i ... he literally has a video on his channel where the accord beats the 330i
@@racing-proof34 doubt it. Even the GLI beat the accord
@@glistud8178 well throttle house showed that accord was ahead than the gli stock to stock and if you’re talking about sam’s race between accord vs gli both were tuned if i remember correctly
Fusion sport vs sonata n line/K5 GT would be VERY interesting. I consider the n line sonata/ K5 GT the spiritual successor to the Ford Fusion sport
I wanna see the Sonata N vs the Fusion Sport
Keep the accord videos coming!
@samcarlegion bro you have to fix the stats… base 4 cyl fwd non turbo fusion weighs 3600lbs. The sport in the video is 401a fully loaded v6tt sunroof and awd is 4100lbs
Yup!
The ford fusion sport is fwd based not rwd based. The awd system will send power to the rear wheels only when slip is detected.
Sam I recommend you put the 2021 Mazda3 Sedan turbo against both of those cars including the 2021 Subaru WRX. That would give them a good run for the money.
Why not race a cruise ship against a horse and buggy.
I have a 19 sport and These SS Camaros, 5.0 Mustangs, And scats always are like damn what you got in there!!!!! I get em all at the start but man a 60 roll they got me all day long! But love my fusion! I wanna tune it and add a new inner cooler and Air intake.
I got a 5.0 mustang and fusion 2.5 as a daily and really want to trade it in for a fusion sport to have the ultimate sleeper for daily driving
Fusion Sport is AWD, FWD chassis. Not RWD :)
Makes sense when the discontinued Fusion Sport 2.7T makes 325HP
2006-2012 ford fusion are very reliable
@Salt Maker lol, Honda fanboy feelings were hurt in this race
@Salt Maker How come? This wasn't a knock on Ford or Honda
@Salt Maker you're just a troll who spams the same shit even when it doesn't make sense
@Salt Maker That's how it was described in the video. Lmao you read too much into things my man
Love my accord !!! You have to admit the 2.0t stock is an amazing engine! But good run with the fusion as well!! ✌️
I don’t think the Honda 2.0T is a standout in a market full of 2.0L turbo engines as most of them are within a few hp of each other. Standouts would be the Volvo T6 2.0L in their Polestar cars a few years ago with ~360 hp or the Mercedes AMG 2.0L at ~380 hp.
@@ghostwrench2292
Well you could have also mentioned that the 2.0L from the Volvo is *both* turbocharged and supercharged.
The Accord 2.0T is only turbocharged but makes 273 lb-ft before 2000 rpm and does it all on regular gas.
For it's target demographic, it's a standout imho
Fusions are so underrated
Lmao 😂😂😂 reminds me of yesterday. Someone in a civic tried to race my mkz 3.0 awd andi barely gassed it. And he had it barried. He was trying so hard and i wasnt even giving a shit. And then he tried to floor again when i let off as if he was going to beat me. Lol. Dude doesnt even realize i dont even have it sport mode 😂😂😂😂.
Had a 2008 2.3 fusion was very quick sprint left anything on the Road....I have the 2012 2.5 fusion SE not too fast but I want to know if it can relearn to be aggressive on the road?
I feel like this channel hates Honda Accord or the driver can't drive because if u watch other channels, the Accord is one of the best fastest sedan compare to others 🤨🤨🤨
I always doubted the numbers on the Accord and Fusion. On paper the Accord has been said to be the same speed and sometimes faster. I drive a Fusion SE model and I overtake people with a tiny engine. Ain't no way the Accord sport can even touch a Fusion Sport. Man I wish ford bring this car back.
It's 2.0t vs 2.7 v6 twin turbo not a fair comparison accord still a beast for a 4cyl sedan.
How do a RWD became AWD in one take?
It’s a Ford. Was most likely broken. :)
Simple, he misspoke Sherlock....happens when ur recording videos.
Ford had built a really really balanced car with the Fusion SPORT. The problem was all the other Fusion's which made up the majority of the fusion sales were garbage, and most people thought the fusion was just that. Ford should have only EVER offered the Fusion in the sport model. Also these Fusion sports were really expensive like $55,000, at that point its hard not to start looking at BMW etc.... If Ford would have only sold the Fusion sport model not the other models and at a slightly cheaper sticker price, you'd have a whole bunch of moded Fusion Sports embarrasing a lot of way more expensive cars out on the streets today. However mayby its a good thing, because there are not many of these sleeper Fusion Sports on the road which sorta adds a cool factor I guess.
Already knew this outcome
how is this even fair it has a bigger engine and more hp and torque . do some realistic races next time
The Fusion is also pushing about 1,000 lbs more, Sam gives some real world comparisons. The Fusion never had too many vehicles that were comparable.
WELL !! it is an small v6 so yeah it does rev very fast... plus the turbo on top... nice
2012 ford fusion sport (awd) is the best model made
Still waiting for the Kia Stinger GT vs Ford Fusion sport video. Much closer on the specs.
Singer is $10k more throw that into a tune, fmic, upgrade fuel system and bye bye stinger
I've owned these two cars fusion, than accord 2.0, tuned them both. AWD is a huge advantage for the fusion for dig races. They are surprisingly close in acceleration.
They discontinued this because all the law enforcement have them lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve never seen this guy win a race
Ford 👍 👍 👍
That 6 speed transmission in the fusion is definitely a weak link. A tune truly helps with the shift points with that car.
6 speed can only do so much it has its limit... the K5 GT with that 8 speed DCT would walk it. And the Elantra N DCT will walk it even more. 💁♂️
Very much so
Stock the transmission was unbearable.
Tuned it only kinda sucks. :-D
@@rockefelleragent1357 wrong 🤣 I'll run your EN or your K5 oh btw my mom has a JB4 auto K5 and I put busses on it
“That’s a rea(r)wdrive” - No, it’s not.
“That Ford! AWD helps!” - No, it doesn’t… neither of those cars spun the tires.
I love my Fusion Sport!
I would like to see this race again in 20 years.
Accord: where's the fusion?
Fusion: junkyard
...in 20years from now, whilst living in the junkyard, the Fusion will still put bus lengths on that Honda... Also, the engine and gearbox is literally shared with F150's so it will run till the end of days and you will still get parts for it long after people forgot how big the gap was in this race.
I own a couple ford's. So I'm allowed. My cruiser (crown Vic) has 486,xxx miles. Last night I popped a curb at 50mph, ran over stop sign with no oil. And she still has a few hundred thousand miles left. As long as I give her oil.
@@austinn-stuff9996 congrats on being a terrible driver?
Yes while the Accord soldiers on rusting from the inside out....dont they still do that?! Not to mention...get real! We keep cars longer than ever, but 20 years...please stop.
@@CanadianMax who said the engines and transmissions in the F150s are reliable?
All the excitement of racing a 86 Chryco Le Baron GTS 5sp 2.2L vs a Ford Taurus 5sp 2.5L: Two family sedans offering a combination of the last vestiges of youthful, carefree driving, while slowly succumbing to the raveges of middle age, like having the Tom Petty channel on XM, 24-7, checking what's left of your hairline in the visor mirror, undoing your belt after you sit and fasten your safety belt, lettng that bulging gut stretch...
😩
The fusion is so much faster, also gets incredibly bad gas mileage lol
@Salt Maker wut?
@Salt Maker how is that butt hurt?
@@HarryTwatter people get mad when you talk shit about there car on youtube. Dw about it. bums every where
When you want to use the paddle shifters in Sport mode you have to put it into that mode before you even leave the line.
Imagine getting a new Honda Accord in the first thing that hits your brain is like man.... it would be almost perfect but that gas door needs to look like it was involved in the accident first. Sweet! unpainted gas door at last! Now all the car guys will know my car is custom.
And in case it didn't it's got the type R badge because we all know Honda made type-r Accords. Soccer moms at intersections across Suburbia will be foiled for sure
I love the starting music. What album is that.
I’m surprised by the roll race. Thought the accord would be able to creep away.
I love how he blames the car for his shifts.
As a bonus, Ford left a lot on the table for tuning that 2.7 Ecoboost.
Dodge charger rt vs fusion 🤔
Fusion Sport is a car you own if you want to be absolutely faster than your midsized sedan peers. However, the transmission, driving experience and interiors are typical Ford, which is a huge letdown.
The interior is actually great in them . The fusions were very well built . The interiors felt quality , and remember , the fusion competed with the 2013-2018 honda accord and the 2014-2019 camry so in comparison year for year the fusion was actually on par if not better in terms of materials. I do agree with you on the transmission , but it was only a let down when trying to do quarter mile times which no one ever does with a fusion . The fusion with the 2.7tt v6 is a family car with extra power. They were also very quiet.
Only let down id say when comparing it against the camry or accords was the reliability. Plus the fusion came with awd first and if you want a camry with awd it has to be 2021+ and can only get it in hybrid with a 4 cylinder while the accord still doesn't offer awd. Im still a honda fan boy but the 2013-2019 fusions were very well built. They felt well insulated with great NVH materials
@@alexion7160 LMAO you got jokes...FRom Car and driver"LOWS
Options add up quickly, cheapish interior materials, Sport model discontinued."
From Motor Trend "Performance and handling aren't up to par
Low-quality interior materials
Its days are numbered
FUSION"s INTERIOR IS TRASH.
@@alexion7160 i had a 204 Fusion and Accord. Accord felt a step above in quality, interiors and driving dynamics. Fusion had AWD but it felt numb and didn’t drove nearly as well.
The 6AT on the Fusion was sloppy which is my main complaint. Cruising or getting on it felt like a choir.
That’s my take anyway.
Why are you comparing a car that no long is being made?
Not really a fair comparison Awd with 100+ hp only 300lbs weight difference easy to imagine results … Throw a tune on the accord and do a re run
Understandable but it's actually more around 800lbs difference
I would love to see some times.... What are the 0 to 60 times what are the quarter mile times what are the acceleration times you don't put any of that in here...
Granny car whipped that Honda.
You meant awd that first time lol
you can very easily get 400 BHP out of the sports with not much more then a tune. Impressive cars, Iv'e beaten a couple stick shift Mustang Gt's with my 2017 Sport
Two different cars, same segment, but different cars.
I'd like to know why you didn't do a 2.0 accord vs a 2.0 fusion
Fusion weighs way more🤷🏽♂️
I'm only here for the Accord
This is largely about how much faster the Fusion is than the Accord. went as expected im sure the results would be the same vs the Kia K5 GT
Considering the fusion has around 70 more hp I’d expect it, an accord with the same power blows the doors off of it tho lol
@@JudgeFXX nah def gonna need AWD. plus the accord is underrated
@@balmainattitude yeah I know, some Dyno tests show it’s not underrated too much, some show it’s underrated by a good margin
@@JudgeFXX accord regularly dynos in the 240 range to the wheels, so if you add 20 percent to make up for loss you’re at about 288bhp. 36hp higher than what Honda rates it at. I actually rarely see the K20C4 dyno less than 240.
K5 and N Line sonata are underrated too, they dyno about 280 to the wheels but it still won’t help them on top end where it matters in a race like this, fusion takes the dub I think.
@@zacharycropper5532 do you know what the fusion dynos?
I didn’t even know that this Fusion was ever made. I think it’s cool, but I’ve never read an article about it, seen a commercial about one, or noticed one on the roads. Feels like Ford could have marketed it better.
Your weight numbers are way off lol a Accord touring curb weight is 3430 and a fusion sport AWD is 4035
I wonder why they didn’t do a fusion 2.0 against a Honda accord 2.0 that makes sense and it matches up. Instead you put a V6 against a 4 banger. I own a fusion 2.0 platinum model and it still has a lot of get up and go. Having gone against an accord 2.0 myself I’ve come out on top. This was just a very off ended example
Ultimate sleeper! Lincoln Mkz 3.0t awd gotta see it.
Unreal how the accord hung in there with excessively more powerful car
While the more powerful car weighs 800 pounds more. Lol
The honda Accord has no chance honda needs to build something better thats their performance. Sedan Ford did a much better performance, Sedan
Great race Sam! I knew the accord would get smoked. Those cars don’t have much top end
With a tune they do!
The accord is still being made.
@@plavnyphotography9871 eh not so much. Majority of their power is still made down low and in mid range with a tune and it drops off hard up top. Main reason being 7th gear in the 10speed makes it a dog. Anything after 120 in a 10 speed, tuned or not is just slow. If you want top end you gotta go type r turbo or MHI stage 2. My 2.0 accord is a fun to do pulls in on my stage 2 and 3 flash but it’s not great up top, turbo is too small.
Love my 17 sport!
Wow... its funny how I see videos of the Accord 2.0T blowing away Mustards on a Race track. And now the Ford Fusion 2.7T blowing away an Accord 2.0T? Doesn't make sense. Either this guys can't drive or they're trying to make Ford bring back the Fusion.
the Fusion sport is a twin turbo v6 it's fast af