History of WWI Primer 103: S&W Triple Lock Documentary

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  • čas přidán 15. 07. 2019
  • Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
    C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
    Additional reading:
    U.S. Handguns of World War II: The Secondary Pistols and Revolvers
    Charles W. Pete
    Serious Smith & Wesson
    Timothy J. Mullin
    U.S. Handguns of World War II: The Secondary Pistols and Revolvers
    Charles W. Pete
    British Secondary Small Arms 1914-1918, Vol.2
    A.O. Edwards
    Canadian Military Handguns, 1855-1985
    Clive M. Law
    Revolvers of the British Services, 1854 - 1954
    W.H.J. Chamberlain and A.W.F. Taylerson
    Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH
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    Animations by Bruno!
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Komentáře • 331

  • @stevailo
    @stevailo Před 3 lety +91

    Whether you’re a Colt or a S&W fan, you can’t deny that the competition between them was so beneficial for revolver development in general

    • @Rustebadge
      @Rustebadge Před 2 lety +9

      In a free market, competition always results in the very best rising to the top. Introduce "fair market forces" or "leveling the playing field" and you get what you get...but rarely the best. Both of these companies are to be commended for the ground-breaking work which benefit all of us today.

    • @Cesko_Plny_Fialovejch_Zmrdu
      @Cesko_Plny_Fialovejch_Zmrdu Před rokem +5

      Remember when companies fought each other to bring the best possible product to costumers instead of connect with each other and fight consumers? I do. World wasn't used to be so much of a mess like it is now

    • @natecaraway2000
      @natecaraway2000 Před rokem +3

      Yeah the real winner was the consumer in the end

    • @Face2theScr33n
      @Face2theScr33n Před rokem +2

      @@natecaraway2000 While the S&W in my pocket may imply a bias, I must say I've never had the pleasure of holding or carrying a Colt. How the hell should I know LOL!

  • @coolspruta
    @coolspruta Před 5 lety +68

    Lawrence of Arabia had a S&W Triple-Lock in .44 Spl, captured from a Turkish officer. It was recently donated to National Army Museum.

  • @jonrolfson1686
    @jonrolfson1686 Před 4 lety +64

    N-Frames - Whether a hundred or more years old, thirty-five years old or only twenty odd years old, always the top of the class.

    • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
      @MaxwellAerialPhotography Před 3 lety +2

      N-frames: just incase you need to beat someone to death with your S&W after you run out of ammo.

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 Před 2 lety

      Unless it's a X-Frame. What they don't have in beauty they more than make up for in performance. Find an actual N-Frame, not an equivalent made by someone other than Smith and Wesson that can fire .454 Casull , much less .460 from the factory.

    • @jonrolfson1686
      @jonrolfson1686 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MaxwellAerialPhotography That's the sort of circumstance which leads one to sub-in a newer classic, a S&W Model 59.

    • @ronalddunne3413
      @ronalddunne3413 Před 10 měsíci

      @@MaxwellAerialPhotography Just don't try that with your Python and expect it to work afterwards! 😱

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon Před 3 lety +38

    S&W's grim determination to engineer their way around turning the cylinder the wrong way reminds me of Porsche's grim determination to engineer their way around the 911's engine being in the wrong place.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před 2 lety +2

      I don't get it why does putting the bar on the right side cause it to lose it's timing vs putting the bar on the left?

    • @handsomerob1223
      @handsomerob1223 Před rokem +8

      @@jason200912 "Timing" in revolvers is how the cylinder lines up with the forcing cone on the barrel, so by having the hand pushing to the left against the cylinder crane thus messing with the alignment of the barrel to cylinder. If the hand was on the left pushing towards the frame instead of away from the frame there would be no force trying to open the crane.

  • @DeadBaron
    @DeadBaron Před 5 lety +211

    When Othais holds it: .22LR
    When Mae holds it: Absolute hand cannon.

    •  Před 5 lety +7

      You mean Othais?

    • @DeadBaron
      @DeadBaron Před 5 lety +13

      @ I blame autocorrect. It doesn't recognize Othais on my phone lol

  • @MarkiusFox
    @MarkiusFox Před 5 lety +81

    "I know, this is riveting television."
    Nah, it's screwing television.

  • @charlesadams1721
    @charlesadams1721 Před 5 lety +9

    From one who looked for a Smith and Wesson Triple Lock in 44 Special, I finally found what I considered an ultimate; a Triple Lock in 44 Special, with a custom 4” barrel with ramped front site, coupled with a low profile rear site.
    Problem was I bought my revolver in mid-1984, but during a range session in October 1984, I was offered nearly 6 times the price I purchased the revolver for just months previously. So, literally with tears in my eyes, I took the cash and bode farewell to the best revolver I ever saw, held or shot.

  • @crankygunreviews
    @crankygunreviews Před 2 lety +4

    Mae's satisfied sigh or giddy laugh after every time she shoots something is something to look forward to.

  • @silverfingerthesilverstack5062

    I think I know a lot about guns from the 1900-1945 period, yet I always learn a heck of a lot from these amazing vids.

  • @john-paulsilke893
    @john-paulsilke893 Před 5 lety +6

    I owned a .455 Eley and it was/is as Othias suggests, absolutely sublime. Mine was a Canadian RCMP fun and had 70 or so years of super hard service and only had blue on the inside with perhaps 10% exterior if I’m generous. Gun was still slick and felt better then anything short of a Masterpiece or a Korth. It had to go because I needed the money for a very clean, (museum quality) 1908 Webley 9mm automatic. (No regrets although I later sold it and another gun for an amazing double Stopping rifle in 4ga, as well as about $8,000 in cash).

  • @wlewisiii
    @wlewisiii Před 5 lety +14

    Ah, finally, the finest of the revolvers. Thank you.

  • @Ben_not_10
    @Ben_not_10 Před 5 lety +43

    *Lovingly holds model 629-6
    “Look son it’s your great grand pa”

    • @JohnCBobcat
      @JohnCBobcat Před 5 lety +4

      Same, for my 28-2 Highway Patrolman though.

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 Před 5 lety +4

      @@JohnCBobcat *Holds S&W 1917* that's your dad, old girl.
      *Holds Model 10* The granddaddy of all S&W hand ejectors

    • @mrtoad8585
      @mrtoad8585 Před 4 lety +2

      chrismc410 I love my model 1917

  • @DarkestVampire92
    @DarkestVampire92 Před 5 lety +79

    "But then the .455 caliber revolvers failed to get contracts as well, and seeing that it wasnt powerful enough, Smith and Wesson then developed the .44 Magnum, but while this was more powerful, it failed to entice the US Military due to being smaller than .45. Following this their new X-frame revolvers would chamber the .500 Magnum, a weapon to surpass the Mars pistol developed a few years ago, but the Ordanence department thought a 50 caliber would be too much, so to meet them in the middle the new model X-frame chambered the .460 Smith and Wesson cartridge, known as the XVR internally...."

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer Před 5 lety +38

      Reports of a S&W team surreptitiously building a handgun based on the 37mm Hotchkiss revolving cylinder could not be reliably substantiated.

    • @BrassCatcher
      @BrassCatcher Před 5 lety +25

      Plot twist: military adopts magnum research bfg’s in 45-70

    • @marknovak8255
      @marknovak8255 Před 5 lety +13

      @keith moore The 44 mag is awesome in its own right. Just the correct amount of too much. Just sayin.....as a man that owns a 1973 vintage model 29....(quietly chuckles to himself)

    • @Full_Otto_Bismarck
      @Full_Otto_Bismarck Před 4 lety +8

      @keith moore You mean Elmer Keith. It was Elmer that hot rodded the 44 Special in Triple Lock revolvers and eventually worked with Remington to make a new cartridge and with Smith & Wesson to build a gun for it. He also worked on the 357 Magnum.
      As to Jeff Cooper i recall he was well known for fancying 1911s rather than revolvers and later on praised the CZ75 despite not being a 45 which he was a proponent of as well.

    • @jonrolfson1686
      @jonrolfson1686 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Full_Otto_Bismarck Well, Jeff C. was getting on in years when he began to develop a bit of a thing for the CZ75 and its capacity for large numbers of bijou 9mm cartridges. The same sort of thing happened to me in my late fifties: An S&W Model 59, not elderly, but of 'a certain age,' sporting thick oversize custom cherry grip panels was slipped into my full size hand. She whispered 'Go ahead, I'll let you put a dozen in the black as fast as you can wiggle your finger, you will still have a few more left, and the thought 'arthritic fingers' won't even cross your mind .'
      That little fat-butt Model 59 didn't cause any .44s or .45s to become homeless, but, though nothing on her rotates, she earned a place in the rotation.

  • @sonnygunz9207
    @sonnygunz9207 Před 5 lety +27

    I love S&W revolvers. I learned to shoot on S&W revolvers. Went through the police academy with a S&W revolver. I carry a 1962 Chief special everyday (or a 1971 nickel plated model 49, or 1982 model 60 or 1974 model 60 or.... hehehe) . She has a lot of honest wear but never misses a beat, of course. They’re such great guns, my wife will toss a vintage J frame in my casket. I’ll never have the money to own all the models I NEED. Thank you so very much for doing this video. I wish it was 40 hours long and covered every model.

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 Před 5 lety +111

    It appears the only thing more complicated than the action was the designation that the Brits gave it

    • @tacomancers12356789
      @tacomancers12356789 Před 5 lety +14

      It wouldn't properly be a British firearm unless it had an overly complicated designation and was coated in proof marks

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Před rokem +2

      @@tacomancers12356789 And broad arrows.

  • @Calum_S
    @Calum_S Před 5 lety +38

    We didn’t receive any messages and Captain Blackadder definitely did not shoot the delicious plump breasted pigeon, sir.

    • @Isildun9
      @Isildun9 Před 5 lety +3

      SPECKLY! BAH! YOU SHOT MY SPECKLED JIM!

    • @kaczynskis5721
      @kaczynskis5721 Před 5 lety +3

      @@Isildun9 Your only childhood friend.

    • @cosmicatrophy4648
      @cosmicatrophy4648 Před 4 lety +2

      Lol Blackadder references are the best references

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped Před 4 lety +2

      "Before we sentence the deceased, I mean the defendant... I think we would all rather enjoy hearing the case of the prosecution."

  • @hamm6035
    @hamm6035 Před 5 lety +5

    Mae I to seen the light of the Smith and Wesson. A life time of glorious perfection for me. I confess that I have slimmed down to 6 Smith's. A pair of Reeder Schofields. N frames are a favorite, but my model 19-8 has held the lead for decades. As you are past fond of the triple lock, I feel the same to the model 19 as having the best hand to grip I've ever held. Yes even over the triple lock.
    Superior post.

  • @BobcatSchneidermann
    @BobcatSchneidermann Před 5 lety +49

    Comment before I see this episode:
    OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD THIS IS THE EPISODE I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR EVER SINCE I SAW MY FIRST C&RSENAL EPISODE!
    I FUDGING LOVE 3-LOCKS! [TEEN GIRL SQUEEEEE]

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped Před 4 lety +3

      I've been waiting for an MP-40 episode...
      Maybe I'll be able to watch it with my grandkids on the moon.

  • @chriswarren1618
    @chriswarren1618 Před 4 lety +2

    Wow, Im so pleased you have answered a question that has been in my mind and unanswered, for the last 55yrs! My father (Naval GI), had one of these in the loft (with ammo pouches) that he surrendered during an amnesty.
    I knew it was a SW with Webley 455 chambering, but until now have never identified it.
    Although I was only 12yrs, he let me drool over it once and it was a love affair Ill never forget.
    Superb engineering and lines and that gorgeous blued finish, I will never forget.
    Thanks again (I wish hed kept it!)

  • @linus11vf1j
    @linus11vf1j Před 5 lety +45

    S&W Over-engineering solutions to problems before H&K. Does the & automatically direct your company to over engineering?

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 Před 5 lety +7

      Counter argument. “Holland and Holland”

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 Před 4 lety +6

      Sturm, Ruger & Company does overengineer sometimes, but not in the H&K way.

    • @aker1993
      @aker1993 Před 4 lety +1

      @@baker90338 Holland and Holland Over-engineering solutions are so British

    • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
      @MaxwellAerialPhotography Před 3 lety +2

      @@hailexiao2770 Ruger doesn't over engineer things, the just make the sidewalls thicker... mostly cause they use garbage steel

    • @DoctorProph3t
      @DoctorProph3t Před 3 lety

      What about Toyota?

  • @stephenkissinger4434
    @stephenkissinger4434 Před 5 lety +5

    According to David Thomas' Master's dissertation on The Pistol in British Military Service in the Great War, England ordered 59,000 Hand Ejectors, and of Canada's 14,500, by the end of the war 7,000 had been transferred to England. These numbers were per the Ministry of Munitions Files at The National Archives.

  • @jaywondergem7026
    @jaywondergem7026 Před 5 lety +3

    Awesome job Othias and Mae! Such a lovely episode. ❤️

  • @jefseitz7690
    @jefseitz7690 Před rokem

    I am a stroke survivor, and therefore a WEE bit slow on the uptake. I am binge watching and catching up on this series. I appreciate the fact that O doesn't so much lecture me as he talks to me about the gun to the best of his knowledge. He then says "Go read about it." This time I actually paused him and went to Wikipedia and did a quick read on S&W. Makes a world of difference in following along. Brain damage doesn't allow you to pack along much in the retention area, so I needs all the help I can get. PLUS a day without a smile from Mae is a sad day indeed. Thank you.

  • @longshot7590
    @longshot7590 Před 2 lety +2

    ABSOLUTLEY A GRADSLAM REVIEW! No where else am i going to find such a deep dive and live fire eval of this S&W masterpiece! I am trying to secure a deal on a triple lock now and this makes me want it even more! Bravo and thank you for all your time, thoughts and hard work

  • @JonManProductions
    @JonManProductions Před 5 lety +14

    Goddamnit Othais, it's starting to turn into Destiny 2 Exotic quests all over again: ALL THE HAND-CANNONS!
    The All Hand-Cannon Channel.

    • @murph9935
      @murph9935 Před 5 lety +4

      "Hi, I'm Othais. And THIS...is Hawkmoon. Let's get it over to the lightbox."

  • @tangero3462
    @tangero3462 Před 5 lety +4

    I will forever be a Smith & Wesson guy. The cylinder latch is a big thing, but I just dislike the way every Colt I've handled stacks the trigger weight.
    Great episode, folks. I may have something worthwhile for you to check out shortly

    • @FenWolf68
      @FenWolf68 Před 5 lety +2

      I felt the same as you mate, til I got a Python that a 'smith had worked his magic on and the single action break on that was light, crisp perfection. Nothing beat my 6"+half model 29 Smith tho ;-j

  • @stevejenkins9984
    @stevejenkins9984 Před 5 lety +3

    Oh ya! Finally my favorite handgun ever! I love my 1858 Remington new Army cartridge conversion. However you can't beat the feel of a Smith & Wesson

  • @TheBinarySon
    @TheBinarySon Před 4 lety +3

    Just came across your channel. I am blown away. I know at the moment you've been focusing on WWI, but I would love to see a series that focuses solely on the history and evolution of Smith & Wesson revolvers.

  • @HayesTech
    @HayesTech Před 5 lety +1

    Another great video. Thank you for all the awesome information.

  • @kevinwilson9589
    @kevinwilson9589 Před 5 lety +6

    I absolutely love my 5" model 27-2. If it could only have had the triple lock, it would have been perfect!

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Před 9 měsíci

      What is the triple lock what does it do different

    • @carolwilson5348
      @carolwilson5348 Před 9 měsíci

      @@craigfinley2507 It was a third locking point on the crane that worked a little like the front locking point on my Ruger Redhawk. It isn't really necessary on my Smith, as it in perfect time, however the engineering of the triple lock to me is amazing.I once beheld one in .455 at a gun show, and it was a work of art. I did not have the funds to buy it, but the guy let me hold it.Something I will always remember.

  • @daveybass655
    @daveybass655 Před 3 lety +1

    Great history lesson accompanied with practical application.
    Outstanding.

  • @coldandaloof7166
    @coldandaloof7166 Před 5 lety +5

    I would love to get a try with that triple lock. As a Smith Fan who still carries a model 66 combat magnum everyday as a primary gun (on duty as a LE officer) I would love to see how they compare to my beloved.

    • @jeffreyroot7346
      @jeffreyroot7346 Před 5 lety

      Sweet! My department issued M64 S&W revolvers until 2017 (switched to Glocks). I did my whole 21 year career with them. Glocks are ok, I still prefer the revolvers . they fit my hands betterand could be real tack drivers.

    • @coldandaloof7166
      @coldandaloof7166 Před 5 lety

      @@jeffreyroot7346 My dept. issues whatever they happen to have on hand but allows officers to carry whatever they want if they provide it. We are a small rural agency with an even smaller budget. Trick is they only buy the Ammo if its in 9, 40, or .38. Anything else and its up to you to buy the duty ammo. I choose to carry the 66. I also carry a M&P 40 if I am expecting big trouble or go on warrants and we always have an AR and a shotgun in the rack if needed.

  • @ceooflovingthehomies9294
    @ceooflovingthehomies9294 Před 5 lety +3

    I gotta agree with Othais and Mae’s preference for smiths over colts. I don’t have experience with these older wheel guns, but I have put a notable number of rounds through a smith & wesson .586 and a colt python. On paper, that Python should be the superior and more desirable gun, but honestly, the 586 handled better and shot better for me. The python was smooth, but there was just something about that smith that just did better for me.

    • @marknovak8255
      @marknovak8255 Před 5 lety +2

      Try timing a colt and keep one running very long and the Smith shows it's stuff, while the Colts show their ***es

  • @GinSoakedBoy
    @GinSoakedBoy Před 5 lety +2

    Yes! Now we're talking! And some very nice shooting with that 2nd model especially, Mae.

  • @FLStelth
    @FLStelth Před 9 měsíci

    I really enjoy your informative, in-depth content. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @garyK.45ACP
    @garyK.45ACP Před 2 lety +1

    Great, great revolver. I have coveted one for my collection for decades. In 2003 I purchased a S&W Performance Center Classic version of this gun. It wasn't cheap, but was a fraction of what an original cost. Virtually Identical, but for a color case hardened frame finish by Turnbull and the third lock is a little different in design.
    I also have a few Colt's in my collection (I'm a S&W collector primarily but can't resist fine revolvers) and the Clockwise cylinder rotation that Colt went to largely fixed the problems S&W was trying to solve. This is why Colt's never needed a lock on the end of the ejector rod OR a shroud to prevent the ejector rod from being bent.
    When a Colt revolver is fired, at the moment the trigger is pulled there is -0- play in the cylinder. Not so with a S&W. I love S&W revolvers and they are much more interesting from a collector's standpoint, but there is no denying Colt had a great mechanism also.

  • @Gearhead1432
    @Gearhead1432 Před 5 lety +2

    That was an excellent explanation of the triple lock’s mechanism.

  • @TheSmsawyer
    @TheSmsawyer Před 5 lety +2

    It is crazy how much Othais loves this revolver. Settle down boy .....

  • @richardkluesek4301
    @richardkluesek4301 Před 5 lety +7

    As always many thanks Othias and Mae for your outstanding presentation. We owe much to Mr Gallands efforts in 1868 even to this day. Compared my new S&W Model 66-8 and old 65-6 as you did the 2nd & 3rd Models. On 66-8 the ejector rod shroud has returned and there is a sort of lock device on the crane into the frame, the ejector rod is solid like a Colt and without a lock at the tip of the rod. So whats new and latest and best was thought of more than 100 years ago.

  • @DieselMcBadass1
    @DieselMcBadass1 Před 5 lety +2

    i want one! Damnit C&Rsenal doing high quality videos that make me want cool expensive things!

  • @MrBill-mq7ti
    @MrBill-mq7ti Před 2 lety +1

    I picked up a second model a few years ago. Yes, a wonderful gun and yes, covered with British proof marks.
    Rechamber in 45LC at some point. Love it.

  • @Liam_TheNoob
    @Liam_TheNoob Před 5 lety

    It's taken so long but after finding this channel by accident about a month ago I've finally caught up! I'll be here from now on!

  • @balancedfordaylight1
    @balancedfordaylight1 Před 5 lety +6

    The Holy grail Of Smith and Wesson revolvers

  • @smgguns2
    @smgguns2 Před 5 lety

    Amazing film work and knowledge of subject! I am not a revolver fan but looking at how they work inside... Wow!

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 Před 5 lety +3

    You did this magnificent revolver justice. Even the cartridge is apply covered.

  • @kbjerke
    @kbjerke Před 5 lety +2

    Well, I have both Colt and S&W vintage revolvers, and I'm as yet undecided which is my favouite. Love them all! Kind of leaning towards my Colt Army Special 38 as an "all around" great revolver... just because it's really smoooooooth… LOL Thanks for the vid!

  • @charlesadams1721
    @charlesadams1721 Před 5 lety +2

    One of the reason for the Colt hammer bite is also the reason for the gap between the shooters hand - a grip filler was made during the middle of the 20th century called the Tyler “T” Grip, that filled the space behind the trigger guard. It was often found on experienced revolver shooters guns.

    • @user-ho4nw5sf3w
      @user-ho4nw5sf3w Před 11 měsíci

      Another reason for that gap is soldiers wore heavy leather gloves. The gloves take up the slack

  • @WarmasterDeath
    @WarmasterDeath Před 5 lety

    thanks guys! i have a new favorite revolver to look up!

  • @phprofYT
    @phprofYT Před 5 lety +1

    Gosh. That's a lovely wheel gun. A beauty. Quick draw on the way. Nothing better than a firearm from Dr. Smith and Mr. Wesson.

  • @felixstieger9039
    @felixstieger9039 Před 5 lety +21

    You gotta Love those old school wheelguns with the thinner barrel. I just find the modern heavy Barrel Revolver and the rubber grips not as asthetical pleasing. Excuse my english please. Its Not my first language.

    • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
      @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 Před 5 lety +4

      BavarianPanzerBallett nothing much wrong with your English - it makes sense.

    • @felixstieger9039
      @felixstieger9039 Před 5 lety +2

      Thanks

    • @felixstieger9039
      @felixstieger9039 Před 5 lety +2

      I think it depends. Give me a s&w victory any day of the week vs a post 1950 Model 10. i mean functually the most modern revolvers are pretty similar to the old ones. Theres a reason why most police Departements in america went straight from these old revolvers to Semi-Automatic. There isnt to much of a diffrence.

    • @jeffreyroot7346
      @jeffreyroot7346 Před 5 lety +1

      @keith moore What's the difference? I was trained and issued Model 10 and Model 64s for over 20 years ( my department only switched to Glocks the year I retired in 2017. They are good guns!

    • @felixstieger9039
      @felixstieger9039 Před 5 lety +1

      Jeffrey Root isn’t there a Studie that states that most citizen involved shootings are over in 2-3 shots. Doesn’t that mean that a revolver can be a viable option today?

  • @captainvladmir7535
    @captainvladmir7535 Před 5 lety +1

    The sequence of big honkin' wheelguns is pleasing me deeply.

  • @MilsurpMikeChannel
    @MilsurpMikeChannel Před 5 lety +4

    I used to be biased toward Colt but kind of changed my tune with my 1917s.

  • @chrishanson4025
    @chrishanson4025 Před 4 lety +1

    "beautiful kinesthenic joy" Love this guy!

  • @zebradun7407
    @zebradun7407 Před 5 lety +1

    I owned one of these once, it had been Fitz speacial treated short two inch barrel bobbed hammer but a full trigger guard old gun dated WW 1 in .45 acp accuracy was bad it was a belly gun but the action was smooth as glass.

  • @zoperxplex
    @zoperxplex Před 5 lety +5

    If C&Rensal were to to a book on these weapons they should do a lightbox on the internal workings of this handgun.

  • @fleurdelispens
    @fleurdelispens Před 5 lety +1

    I would love to see a video on revolver actions like you did with bolt actions. I find myself constantly going back to episodes and looking at how they got these revolvers to do the job

  • @611_hornet5
    @611_hornet5 Před 5 lety +22

    Registered Magnum fanboys are furiously banging away at their typewriters in response to Othais priasing the Triple-Lock as S&W's best ever.

    • @paleoph6168
      @paleoph6168 Před rokem +2

      Colt Python fanboys too take part in the typewriter smashing, albeit due to the Triple Lock sharing the claim of "finest revolver ever made".

    • @margarethouse404
      @margarethouse404 Před 9 měsíci +1

      And they both can be considered Correct !
      Triple Lock - S&W's finest Design , combined with very good quality .
      Registered Magnum - Over the top mfg quality , lots of bling details , but simplified design .

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin317 Před 5 lety +23

    35:15 "third of four part" I'm OK with 3rd of 14 part, just saying. 😉

  • @sactodan
    @sactodan Před 9 měsíci

    I have a third model .44 known as Wolf&Klar, that became available in 1926 as special order. Has ejector rod shroud and only about 5K made. Mine also has factory nickel finish and engraved as Christmas present to San Antonio police captain in 1930. Great shooter.

  • @draskuul
    @draskuul Před 5 lety +17

    When you mentioned Crozier you really should have had your own Crozier out on the table. Don't mention him, just subtly have him there on the table.

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Před 5 lety

      Maybe a great headshot of the lol ol' pig.

  • @lukehorning3404
    @lukehorning3404 Před 5 měsíci

    I didn’t know those had so much to them and it’s like a Swiss watch and now I want one someday and I will always will love the old wheel guns ❤

  • @jackgreenstalk777
    @jackgreenstalk777 Před rokem

    Amazing how much the internals are still the same in their modern revolvers. Loved this and the next one. I watched in wrong order but still really enjoyed both 👍👍

  • @bullseyedixon5660
    @bullseyedixon5660 Před 5 lety +1

    great great video thank you

  • @silverfingerthesilverstack5062

    Oooh I am dripping with excitement at this vid.

  • @JackDo-lu8ux
    @JackDo-lu8ux Před 5 lety +15

    Well ROK Military hasn't had much involvement with revolvers - most likely due to the HUGE numbers of Colt automatics *ahem ahem* that we received as military aid. However, one thing that is interesting is that some have been adopted for high ranking officers - though I'm not sure if it's all Colts or Wessons. Thanks for more wheely pistols!
    - Jack the Korean Gun Nut.

  • @karljohnson3538
    @karljohnson3538 Před rokem

    Don't pry off the side plate. Hold the gun in the palm of your hand with the side plate facing up and your thumb lightly over the side plate. Use a wooden dowel or wooden hammer and give the area of the grip a sharp rap downward. A lead babbitt will work too. The plate will just pop off. A recommended course for you. Smith and Wesson's Armorer's School for revolvers. I completed the course many years ago along with the auto course when I worked at The Brunswick Gun Shop. We were a warranty repair shop for Smith and Wesson. I'm enjoying all of your historical research and history of these firearms.

  • @chefemilj
    @chefemilj Před 2 lety

    Thanks

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0n Před 5 lety +10

    Absolutely disgusting that Victor claims copyright over music that is in the public domain.

  • @caseyplunkett6083
    @caseyplunkett6083 Před 2 lety

    Big fan of Mae !

  • @pistolerojoe1860
    @pistolerojoe1860 Před 4 lety +3

    I just picked up a 44 2nd Model Hand Ejector for a steal of a price and I am beyond excited to go out and shoot it. The Triple Lock is my Holy Grail of revolvers though and I am crossing my fingers I will find one for a decent price someday. Anyways excellent video! I just subscribed

    • @margarethouse404
      @margarethouse404 Před 9 měsíci

      None of the pre war .44 HE are really sleepers .
      But particularly post 1928 mfg with improved heat treatment , they are actually stronger than Triple Locks .

  • @USSEnterpriseA1701
    @USSEnterpriseA1701 Před 5 lety +4

    I've got one of the Mk. II models and it must be an early one, has bluing about on par with that triple lock. Still have yet to shoot it due partly to issues sourcing .455, but one of these days I'll find the time to use the .455 I finally got in it. I will say though, mine seems to have a particularly heavy hammer spring, making the trigger not quite on par with the Russian 1895, but not far from it. Still smooth, but quite heavy, I want to say my trigger scale put it at somewhere near 14 lbs., just 6 lbs. lighter than my 1904 Tula Refurb Model 1895. At least my beloved Victory Model makes up for that with it's shootability, both in ammo and action.

    • @USSEnterpriseA1701
      @USSEnterpriseA1701 Před 5 lety

      Well, well, well. After getting inspired and digging the thing out, turns out I was wrong about that trigger spring. Must've confused it with my more modern production (arguably re-production) Model 57 classic, which was so stiff I had to change the mainspring. The problem of having too many revolvers (though many of them are Italian made, of the 1870's Western persuasion). I was right about the bluing, though it is quite worn. Interestingly, I popped it open to oil it while I had it out and it does have the chafing pins that Othias says were omitted in the Mk. II. Makes me wonder if they and the bluing were a further simplification part way through production of the Mk. II. Based on the fact that I'm looking at a 4 digit number on the butt, cylinder, and barrel, I'd say my recollection that it was early production (for the Mk. II) was spot on.

  • @mollymcallister1671
    @mollymcallister1671 Před 5 lety +3

    I prefer the Colt-style release myself, but I have weird hands. My thumb can't get enough leverage on the S&W style to apply enough force to release it And maintain my firing grip, so since I have to shift my grip anyway to engage the release the Colt is easier for me since with the S&W I have to shift the gun to one side which is awkward but with the Colt I just tilt it back in my hand kinda like how I'm used to doing when cocking the hammer.

  • @nathancooper9932
    @nathancooper9932 Před 3 lety

    These old revolvers are amazing machines.

  • @maxsmodels
    @maxsmodels Před 5 lety +1

    I recently got a triple lock and did a video on it. I gave this video a shout out in the credits.

  • @donmurrin5269
    @donmurrin5269 Před 3 lety

    As usual. Splendid production.
    Mae.... she's so doggone cute.

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 Před 5 lety +1

    those sketches of the no. 2 double action are so fucking cool. damn

  • @davidbrennan660
    @davidbrennan660 Před 5 lety +7

    The action needs the Thunderbird music as it operates just to open the cylinder..... thankfully it is not Atomic Powered.

  • @avogadro7237
    @avogadro7237 Před 5 lety +1

    After World War I, I believe it was Remington which bought back lots of the 2nd Models from the Brits and bored them out to shoot .45 Long Colt, and sold them on the U.S. commercial market. I bought one in the '60s and joyously shot it for many years. Indeed a beautiful revolver. The only things I did not like were the grips, which were too small for my hands.

  • @lesnainss
    @lesnainss Před 5 lety +3

    8:26 It's that darn guinea pig again !

  • @slowpokebr549
    @slowpokebr549 Před 5 lety +1

    Mae hits on the reason that I prefer a Smith over the Colt. The grip shape of the 1917 Smith fits my hand better than any other. The Colt has too deep of an arch behind the trigger. I bunch up on a Colt. A Tyler Tee grip is required.

  • @tangle70
    @tangle70 Před 5 lety +1

    Smith and Wesson makes the finest firearms for the money. Their warranty is second to none.

  • @monkeyship74401
    @monkeyship74401 Před 5 lety

    Thanks again for a lovely episode. You can tell that Mae doesn't like the Smiths The big grin as she fires, the groups that would blow the bejesus out of an adversary. Please tell us that Mae out shot Othias with these beautiful pieces of art. ??? What,? No comments from Othias??? Remind me again that I don't want to make Mae mad at me. Thanks and Keep up the good works.

  • @sactodan
    @sactodan Před 9 měsíci

    I also have a .44 Mag L frame Model 69 which brings back a yoke lock in form of a detent.

  • @andythem320guy9
    @andythem320guy9 Před 5 lety +4

    You got two ads!!!! Yay!!! Today is a good day.

  • @BrennerBay
    @BrennerBay Před 5 lety +3

    May is borrowing a page from Les Nessman from WKRP in Cincinnati. In every episode, shes wearing a different bandage of one type of another. Very funny for a gunslinger.

    • @maewinchester2030
      @maewinchester2030 Před 5 lety +4

      Eventually settled on just taping it. Couldn't get the bandaid to hold on.

  • @joshuawarnke7415
    @joshuawarnke7415 Před 5 lety

    Asked the yanke marshal a wile nack what difference the direction of cinder movement made/What makes a safe robust modren revolver. You answered in detail thanks

  • @silverfingerthesilverstack5062

    The word ELEY .455 is pronounced EEELEY over here in the UK, well thats the way my friends and I have always said it lol.

  • @UnkyNik
    @UnkyNik Před 5 lety +2

    I wish you had mentioned the Colt Army Special M1908 in .38 special, the last .38 sidearm that had a service life of one year. I've never seen one out side of Hogg's Military Small Arms of the 20th Century, and crave more info on it. Got any?

    • @filianablanxart8305
      @filianablanxart8305 Před 3 lety

      The Colt named it the Army Special in hopes of attracting millitary sales , but it didn't ( at the time) . Colt shortly afterwards changed the name to Official Police , and had brisk sales to both LE and civilian market .
      ( During WWII , the US Government purchased huge numbers of .38spl revolvers , but that's a topic in itself .)

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin317 Před 5 lety +2

    10:45 ahh, the smith hammer rebound spring...good memories, good memories. 🤣🤪😱

  • @scifimom42
    @scifimom42 Před 5 lety +1

    If any gun could be ASMR it’s this one.

  • @JamesPlaysJP
    @JamesPlaysJP Před rokem

    I have my great grandfather’s Triple Lock that he had when he was a sheriff

  • @royalleague8077
    @royalleague8077 Před 5 lety +6

    First!You are best chanell!I am from Montenegro and my favorite revolver is legendary Gasser!

  • @Anibal677
    @Anibal677 Před 4 lety

    Are ther any shave Bristish N frames .455 of that period of time, for usint it in .45 ACP?

  • @AfrikaKorp42
    @AfrikaKorp42 Před 5 lety +1

    26:29 "Flight to Nepal " by John Williams plays

  • @nirfz
    @nirfz Před 5 lety

    Just out of interest: is the screw thread of the cylinder axis of the Mk2 going the same direction as it is in todays S&W Revolvers?
    The reason for my question: i had problems with a 686, namely that over time the cylinderaxis unscrewed itself while shooting. And when you don't notice that, it gets harder and harder to open until you bend the cyl axis...
    For the last bit of the dicussion of taking it into battle: this is something that would prevent me from doing it. I think it a design flaw that the rotation of the cylinder and the drag by turning (through shooting) will unscrew the thing.
    By changing the threat direction it would not do that. But then again, nobody would need any replacement parts.

  • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819

    Haven't we seen Joseph Weeson some place else? His picture looks so familiar....

  • @barryeaton8907
    @barryeaton8907 Před 5 lety

    Futurama reference :) nice

  • @mattberry4457
    @mattberry4457 Před 5 lety +1

    i have the target model and the sights are much improved.

  • @paulmanson253
    @paulmanson253 Před 5 lety +4

    "A kinesthetic joy". A phrase that is unequivocal. Then he drools over the bluing. Maybe he likes it ? Then he speaks well about overengineering.
    Opening up the working bits makes it look more like watchmaking.
    Then Mae drools some herself. Hope you guys went for a bite to eat afterwards.

  • @Zorglub1966
    @Zorglub1966 Před 5 lety

    Wow!