State of the UK Economy: How do we “make Brexit work”?

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  • čas přidán 12. 02. 2024
  • Britain’s global economic and trade strategy
    How do we “make Brexit work”? Or is this not feasible without major shifts of political strategy? Meanwhile, what does “Global Britain” mean and how does the UK adapt its approach to a potentially more protectionist world?
    Chair: Catherine Barnard, University of Cambridge and UKICE
    Panel:
    Madeleine Sumption, University of Oxford
    Thomas Sampson, London School of Economics
    Allie Renison, SEC Newgate

Komentáře • 49

  • @frankoneill5675
    @frankoneill5675 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Visas are not free movement.
    If 'sector specific deals' and 'incrementalism' are euphemisms for cherrypicking, there won't be any

  • @soapytowel1565
    @soapytowel1565 Před 3 měsíci +20

    Making Brexit work is the same as trying to nail a jelly to a wall

    • @Sjb-on5xt
      @Sjb-on5xt Před 3 měsíci +1

      Trying to make EU membership work and pretending your country is independent and in sovereign control for 50 years was also like nailing jelly to a wall.

    • @phillheth
      @phillheth Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@Sjb-on5xtEU same old gammon nonsense. SOVRUNTY. Twat.

    • @bigbobabc123
      @bigbobabc123 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Sjb-on5xtsovereignty doesn’t exist in a globalised world. You’re a rule taker whether you like it or not. Unless you’re a superpower - which the U.K. isn’t

    • @Sjb-on5xt
      @Sjb-on5xt Před 3 měsíci

      @@bigbobabc123 I agree that some sovereign control is given over in order to facilitate trade, form military alliances and set agreed standards, however what we do within our own territorial borders is for us to decide in accordance to the laws made in parliament.
      To claim sovereignty doesn't exist doesn't understand that international law doesn't exist without a sovereign country's consent, which any international treaty or agreement can be terminated unilaterally by a simple Act of parliament.
      Terminating the EU treaty is a case in point.

    • @davidpaterson2309
      @davidpaterson2309 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Sjb-on5xtSpecific example of when that occurred and how it directly affected the agency of British sovereignty in something that the U.K. itself did not agree to but was compelled to do?

  • @frankoneill5675
    @frankoneill5675 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Re the review of implementation, the speakers would do well to watch a presentation by Jannike Wachowiak on this in the UKICE live session 'Can the UK-EU trade deal be renegotiated'.(Short answer: No). She explains the several reasons why the EU have no interest in making much of it. Another speaker in the same session, Joel Reland explains that in other deals where the EU have this clause they look at the deal, say yeah, it's working OK and sign off on it. There won't be any EU summits around it.

  • @irminschembri8263
    @irminschembri8263 Před 3 měsíci +18

    As far as I know - teaching about the EU for decades - there will be NO cherry-picking for a THIRD COUNTRY like the UK not least because of WTO's " Prefered Country" rule.
    So SM and CU are for MEMBERS only either in the EU or EFTA.
    Norway said "no" to UK's EFTA membership and the EU said "no" to another "Switzerland".
    There will be a TCA review in 2026 but it will be just an assessment if the TCA is working especially for the EU ! Trying to " make Brexit work" is like trying to " make an accident work" IMHO.
    I'd be delighted if you could prove me wrong as I personally have ties with the UK.
    Greetings from Germany.

    • @EllieD.Violet
      @EllieD.Violet Před 3 měsíci +1

      Groundhogging 😂!
      And these people are considered 'experts'. All they excel in are 1) embarrassing ignorance and 2) delusions.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I'm sorry to say that I believe that to be accurate. There are still a lot of people in the UK, many of whom should know better, who think some kind of special deal will be offered to the UK that no other country would ever get. Apart from being mistaken this also presents the UK in a way that I'm personally not comfortable with at all. No wonder we are accused of having an exceptionalist mindset.
      In reality a lot of us have grasped the basics now but this type of video really isn't helping. Just my thoughts. Greetings from Scotland. Edited for typo.

    • @smashingturnips5353
      @smashingturnips5353 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You are German?
      And yet you write English better than many English people do. 😊.
      Impressive

    • @irminschembri8263
      @irminschembri8263 Před 3 měsíci

      @@smashingturnips5353 Thanks for the compliment. Made my day. :)
      Don't forget that English is the most important forreign language here in Germany.
      Two facts helped me to acquire that standard of English. My husband is Maltese and we spend time here and in Malta and I studied at Goldsmiths Uni many moons ago. And I still love the UK !

  • @martinlee465
    @martinlee465 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Is this a conference on how to improve the art of cherry picking?

  • @EllieD.Violet
    @EllieD.Violet Před 3 měsíci +2

    9:00 ff 'services' were not hugely affected because the grace periods for services, mostly FS, only ended 12/31/2023 or will end in the near future (18 months).
    That simple 😂.

  • @bigernie9433
    @bigernie9433 Před 3 měsíci +1

    There will not be a review of the TCA in 2026, it will be, as it is written in the TCA, a review of the implementation of the TCA. Even this former civil servant seems not to have bothered to actually read the text of the TCA, quite amazingly.

    • @frankoneill5675
      @frankoneill5675 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The impression I get from UKICE videos is that if they keep asking the same question, eventually they'll get a diferent answer

  • @samhartford8677
    @samhartford8677 Před 3 měsíci +10

    So in conclusion making Brexit work requires that the EU makes it work. I am afraid that in the EU we elect our politicians to advance our interests, not the UK's interests. Just saying...

    • @Sjb-on5xt
      @Sjb-on5xt Před 3 měsíci

      The EU represents its bureaucrats and whoever lobbies it. Top down policies no one has ever voted for in any election.

    • @samhartford8677
      @samhartford8677 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Sjb-on5xt Why don't you google EU legislative process. It's more democratic than the UK one. These old ridiculous fallacies do not speak well off your intellect.

    • @Sjb-on5xt
      @Sjb-on5xt Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@samhartford8677I agree that the MEP's are elected in a fairer system of PR for parties, but on what manifestos?
      Normally a party will provide policies that they will implement if they form a government. MEPs don't form any government, they form block voting multiple parties in an assembly from similar parties across Europe. What elections are held for the EU commission and its 5 presidents?

    • @samhartford8677
      @samhartford8677 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Sjb-on5xt How you conceptualise the results of EU parliamentary elections is exactly what I meant by the difference of the UK political culture. For us accustomed to PR systems, it is self-evident that the MEPs run on the party platform. When they go to the EU Parliament they will join together with MEPs from other countries with similar policy goals. Depending on what the political balance of the EU Parliament is, they will negotiate with the new Commission what kind of a policy agenda they want.
      The EU Commission is the civil service. The EU Council is basically the government/cabinet. The Presidents are just figureheads there to speak with one mouth for 27 countries. They do not have a vote on legislation, their task is to coordinate, implement and represent the EU member states.

    • @Sjb-on5xt
      @Sjb-on5xt Před 3 měsíci

      @@samhartford8677 yes the political structure is completely different in the UK and PR is probably the way to reform it. Parties print their glossy manifestos informing it's public voters at a General Election, what they intend to implement if they form a government and get scrutinized and judged on their performance to deliver on those mandates, at the next general election. They are accountable, where the voters can throw the rascals out every 4 to 5 years. What use is it if all those policies are not in their sovereign control to deliver and given over to a collective in Europe to decide? What mandate does any MEP to vote on anything? You claimed that the EU commission is just a civil service, but many hold senior politburo style positions that direct and influence policy in the Council. What mandate do they have to negotiate what is decided?

  • @JohnnyinMN
    @JohnnyinMN Před 3 měsíci +5

    Mind-blowing. My 16-year old American daughter was already learning of the obvious consequences of Britain leaving the EU in an economics class in high school. It’s just common-sense not to leave if you’re from the Americas.

    • @Sjb-on5xt
      @Sjb-on5xt Před 3 měsíci

      Can you name any country on the planet who gained independence did it for economic reasons? In 1776 did the 13 British colonies in America, break from British rule for economic reasons or was it to be a self governing nation to make their own constitution, laws and taxes?

    • @-BY205
      @-BY205 Před 3 měsíci +2

      1776 😂 2016 😂😂😂 very similar times for the english at least and Rees Jacob 🚬 smoky 😂😂

  • @-BY205
    @-BY205 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Germany in recession and became 3rd larges economy .. 😂😂 schools are fixed now in little uk 🇬🇧 ??? 😂 Who would invest in the UK ??? Honestly hands up

  • @dub604
    @dub604 Před 3 měsíci +9

    The best way to "make Brexit work" is to leave the UK and go and live somewhere else. 😂😂😂

    • @terryj50
      @terryj50 Před 3 měsíci

      Haha shame thick remainers cannot leave

  • @smashingturnips5353
    @smashingturnips5353 Před 3 měsíci +1

    How do you make a teapot out of chocolate?

  • @damienlyncheconomics2238
    @damienlyncheconomics2238 Před 3 měsíci

    You don’t

  • @davidpaterson2309
    @davidpaterson2309 Před 3 měsíci

    There isn’t really a way to “make Brexit work” at all - at least, not from the perspective of trade facilitation, product standards, free-flow of goods, capital, labour etc (ie the Single Market). So having decided that we do not want to cooperate with our nearest neighbours economically, and given that the option of compelling others to trade with us on our terms (the empire) is no longer available, in a polarising world that leaves few options - the most likely of which is to become a client state, effectively a political and economic satellite - of the USA. There has always been an Atlanticist faction among the Brexiteers for whom that was the ideal, certainly Liam Fox and probably Farage given his devotion Trumpism.

  • @rickywinthrop
    @rickywinthrop Před 3 měsíci +1

    Brexturbation to anticlimax...sigh.