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Nikon Zf for Nightscape Photography
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- Thanks to Nikon Australia I was able to get my hands on a Nikon Zf camera to test out shooting nightscape photography. This unit has some of the latest tech inside a retro styled package and I was keen to see how it would handle shooting at night.
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A couple of comments. 1. Nikon has a bluetooth remote. Nikon ML-L7 Bluetooth Remote Control. It is a little hand held remote with some features that will allow remote triggers for video and stills. 2. The SmallRig L-Shape Grip for Nikon Zf has an offset to put a Manfroto quick release plate on that will clear the battery door. In addition it will add a larger grip to the side of the camera.
Thanks for watching, I appreciate your comments.
Even if Nokon never send you anything again, viewers like me appreciate your honesty and expertise, which you know full well is far more important. And actually you didn't bash Nikon - you re-directed the buyer towards the Z6, so still Nikon. 😀
Thanks Daniel. I love all the Nikon products.
No one else could do a camera review like this. Well done!
Thanks Leon, really appreciate that.
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Never thought Nikon Zf could do this. Simply magnificent!!
The images are fantastic.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Undoubtedly fantastic.
You've out done yourself Richard. That's some absolutely gorgeous work. Thanks for taking the Zf for a test ride.
You're very welcome, thanks for watching.
Absolutely stunning images, taking over the mantle from Alyn Wallace, Da Iawn from 🏴
Thanks for your great support David.
Good honest review. Nikon should appreciate that.
Haha, well I'm not too sure Nikon care too much about what I say Andrew.
You know how to make the most of a clear night, Richard! I haven't had a clear night for almost 6 weeks. I got to see the Milky Way come up above the horizon 3 nights ago, but then the clouds filed in, and I went back to bed.
We've had a pretty good run here David, but the rain came yesterday. Hoping for it to clear and see some aurora action this weekend.
ZuperFantastic..!
Thanks so much for watching.
just add the smallrig grip and you'll be fine
love this camera, its awesome
your photos are gorgeous!!
Yes any grip would be useful for sure. But I sure do mis that remote port. Thanks for watching.
I hope your out going this Aurora tonight, oh my goodness, 180 degree colour, ribbons overhead, never seen anything like it and Tassie gave us clear skies.
Yes I was out all night Jeff. Quite amazing.
@@nightscapeimages.richard pity you weren’t here in Tas, but then I guess it didn’t matter where you were it was amazing, my daughter even got photos from Toowoomba QLD.
Love your open and honest review Richard, amazing images once again🙂
Thanks as always for watching Julie
Great video and thanks for the info on the Zf , I was just about to rent 1 now no , I will wait and see what Nikon does in the next few months
Thanks for watching Keith. I suspect the Z6iii will have all of these features and more.
This camera is just like me, great on the inside and not working to well on the outside. I'm sure the Z6 iii will be a super camera. However this all goes to show you could produce a stunning MW photo with a box brownie. Have a great weekend my Aussie friend.
Haha, well you and me both Rob . .in fact sometimes the inside doesn't work so well either mate ..!!!
First off love your videos and knowledge of astro photography, so please continue to do what you do! I always look forward to learning from you.
There are a few comments on here already with the grip. If you do want to purchase this camera, the small rig grip does help a lot, and it allows full access to the battery and the SD memory card. The grip has a built in arca plate allows it to easily be used with tripods. So if that is a concern, it shouldn't hold you back. I do own the z6ii and zf - the main issue I have with zf is the lack of using a self timer. I don't like using extra cables and remotes. I would hope the zf will get a firmware upgrade to allow the self timer that you see with the z6 series.
If you are not in need of a camera with quick auto focus, and the star light view, the z6ii offers the same image quality. If the zf does ever get that upgrade with the self timer option, then I think I would use the zf more. The flip screen vs tilt really doesn't seem to be a concern to me, but I understand it is a preference. Each camera seems to have one or two features that help tilt the decision in a certain direction. Which is why if I had the money (which I don't anymore), the z6iii is going to be a nice option. All in all, no matter which of these cameras people have; end result is you can get the photos from any of them.
Just enjoy your camera and keep learning. I know I am just beginning my astro shooting, so lots to learn over here.
Thanks so much for your very accurate insights Thomas, very much appreciated.
Another great Zf feature for night photography is Warm Display Colors. It makes all the menus a dim red to help preserve your night vision. And the AF can actually focus on stars too. Try it!
Yes I do like that they put some of those great features into this camera. I guess it's a preview into what future cameras will have as standard.
You can run warm display colours on Z6ii as of the latest few firmwares
@@joshmorgan3750 Yes indeed.
@@joshmorgan3750 How do you get the warm display colors with the new update? I just did mine and I can’t find them 🥲
Interesting that Nikon sent you the ZF for review rather than something like the Z8. Nightscapes is definately not a genre where you want the gear getting in the way, so the lack of remote port and that battery compartment design would have it off my list immediately. The Z8 on the otherhand seems to be something I could put on my wishlist.
Well to be fair, they didn't send it to me to do a review. . I asked them if I could have it for a few weeks .. .so I did the video. I know the Z8 is a very capable camera already. Bit big for my liking though . .I know it's subjective, but for me I'm downsizing everything .. no more heavy lenses etc.
Very good video about night photography! The real fact is: It’s not the camera, is the photographer! You will do nice night shots with any camera with your expertise in that field!
I bought my Zf after using D800 for nore than 10 years. It’s different for me, but I like it. Very good camera, the ergonomics problem can be solved with the Small Rig grip. The remote control also is easy to solve! The screen should be like Sony ( flip and tilt at the same time), and in my opinion this camera should have the Custom settings buttons ( U1, U2, U3 ) in order to change the settings of the camera fast, depending on the subject you will shoot.
Thank you for the video and hope to see more videos about night photography!
Thanks so much for your comments Roberto
Great video again Richard and amazing images as always.
I think flip out screens can be very useful if you have lowered your tripod right down, at or below knee level, or when you are in an awkward spot, like adjacent to a fenceline, and it's hard to bend around to see your screen if it doesn't flip out. After using a crop sensor for so long which had a flip out screen then going to full frame with a fixed screen I really did miss that feature 🙂
Yes I agree with that for sure. That's why the higher end Nikon models Z8 & Z9 have the fold out screens both directions.
Great review of the Zf for nightscape photography. My only beef with it is the lack of a wired remote port. I found it finicky in real cold weather here. Not sure if it was the camera or the 24-120 lens. But it had issues where my Z6II and 24-70 have had no issues.
But like you I truly don’t want to have to depend on my phone and a app to make it work.
The images are spectacular as usual. Love the tractor one. The Viltrox 16mm images are quite impressive also. I want to try the pixelshift function on a milky way shot. Not tracked.
Well Richard have a wonderful weekend my friend. 📷☕️🍪
Thanks as always for your great comments John
Beautiful work! I have the Zf and Z8 and I love them both. I bought the small rig grip for the Zf as it has the built in Arca Swiss mount and I love it!
Same combo here, best of both worlds 👍🏻
Thanks heaps for watching. You have everything well covered there.
That Viltrox producing fabulous images..can’t believe your getting the milkyway so prominent with a 15sec single exposure,can’t seem to get that over here,must be something different with the Hemispheres. Anyway Richard hopefully getting out tonight for the first time this year. All the best Chris
Thanks Chris. We do have brilliant and dark skies over here and that makes a huge difference.
Regarding the Ergonomics: I picked up a Zf in a shop and thought the same as you did... it felt terrible in my hand. A friend brought one a month ago and got the Smallrig grip. What an amazing difference it made. It felt very friendly in my hand.
Thank you for the review... I wish I had the starlight function on my Z7
Yes I agree Brian. That feature alone is worth it's weight in gold.
fantastic video
Thanks so much for watching.
Loved the harvester shot Richard!
Yes I was pleasantly surprised by that one Les.
Back in Black!
Haha, but I don't mind the orange David ..!!!
You are absolutely correct in the assessment of the camera for Night photography. I had the earlier APS-C version of it and sold it later. I bought it mainly for the flip screen and v-log requirements to maintain all the image and video processing uniformly along with other Nikon cameras. But it is like sacrificing many other requirements just for the flip screen. It is meant for Street walks with anyone comfortable with a strap. It's fantastic camera for Street for the purpose of slowing down to your photographic process, observe things around you when you walk and particularly light weight. I like carrying camera in hand rather than a camera strap and so ergonomics is a big NO NO for me in using ZF. By the way, nice images and thanks for your video.
Thanks so much for your wise words Selva. Appreciate you watching.
So I want to comment on a couple of things because I just got a Zf and took it for a night photo test last night. You mentioned you can’t shoot 15 or 20 second exposures with the dial. If you turn it to 1/3, that’s where your camera allows you to shoot any exposure length just like the Z6ii: 1,3, 8, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, bulb, time.
Also, with the neewer grip, it allows you to place another arca plate on the side of the camera to shoot portrait mode.
The internal intervalometer can be a substitute for any external shutter release or triggers, like for star trails.
Switching between ISO and shutter speeds I found it to be really cool, not a problem at all.
Also the star view is amazing! So much nicer than having so shine a light to frame your shot.
Images are beautiful, almost no noise.
The screen can be tilted up once it’s extended and it can also be turned to the back of the camera like the Z6ii. Your video makes it look like it can only be out and that’s it.
I am truly impressed by the camera, and very happy with the purchase. I think you left some stuff out in your review.
Thanks!
Yes the image quality of the Zf is indeed wonderful, and it certainly isn't marketed as a tripod mounted camera that's for sure. Your comments are very insightful and it sure can be used effectively as a landscape or nightscape camera. The internal intervalometer doesn't allow you to control the shutter from a distance as I always do when light painting my nightscapes .. but it's great for timelapse or star trails as you mention.
I did mention the flip ,out screen as both a good and not so good thing .. but that's not a specific criticism of the Zf as such.
I agree that starlight view is the most amazing thing, and that's really the only thing that makes this camera better for nightscape photography than the Z6ii.
stunning images!
Thanks a lot Maurice
Excellent video and review of the Zf, Richard! Your pictures and time lapse videos are stunning as usual. I hope you get a chance to repeat this video with the Z8. Cheers mate!
Thanks heaps for watching.
I have been a happy owner of a Nikon Z8 for about a year now, and I think it is the ultimate all-around camera. I wouldn't trade it for any other camera, even though the 45 megapixels make themselves felt in terms of dynamic range and file size.
Yes I agree, the Z8 is an awesome camera.
Obrigado Richard.
Thanks again for watching.
Great video and images Richard, including the 16mm. I had one for a trial for a week I have similar to you about night shooting, I certainly need a remote port, reliable external power delivery etc. Thank you for your time and effort.
You're always very welcome Les. Thanks for your great support.
Great honest review Richard.
I can't believe that Nikon haven't contacted you about camera design, especially in relation to nightscape and landscape cameras. Surely your experience, expertise and hours in the field on this subject would be of great value to them.
Actually, any of the camera brands could benefit from your knowledge for my money.
Very kind of you to say . .but I don't think they care too much about what I have to say.
@@nightscapeimages.richard More fool them then !
Tiny corrections (forgive me if you e mentioned them already)
- cards are SD and micro SD
- lcd window shows aperture, not drive mode
And yes the SmallRig grip is a must IMO for this body. Problem is, it makes the SD card even trickier to get out (solved by making a little pull-tab from tape)
Oh and absolutely stunning images as always! 👏🏻✨
Thanks for the corrections Craig. Appreciate you watching.
I understand where you are coming from with the ergonomics. For 20+ years I used a Nikon F1 & F3 daily. I had a Metz 45 CL-4 flash permanently mounted to the body which saw far more use as a carrying handle than a flash gun. I own and love my Z6, but I've gotta say, I love the retro look of the Zf.
Thanks for watching Peter. Appreciate your insights.
Nice work here Richard. My Z8 is back at Nikon for the long overdue service advisory from last year. And then we had these epic northern lights going off across the northern USA- KP9- like once in a lifetime occurrence, and I’m out of my camera for the next few weeks I’m guessing. So, I’m getting a second mirrorless body. I was considering the ZF, but after your review, I think I’m going to wait for the Z6 replacement. Thanks for your efforts and education- it makes a huge difference- gladly supporting, liking, and commenting on your CZcams and social media accounts .
Thanks so much for watching. So sorry you haven't got your camera on hand for the auroras.
The next generation of Z6 needs all the Zf specs but in the Z6 format. Nice review and great photos.
Yes I totally agree Mike . .and I think that's what we'll get with perhaps a few extras as well.
This is too funny! Well done Richard!! 😊👍🏾
But Nikon should not penalize Richard, this camera is not for Astro photography market, it's more for hipster, travel, etc
what else did they expect from this review .
Nikon should have sent Richard a Z8 to test, that's more appropriate.
Thanks for your kind words. In Nikon's defence, they didn't actually send the camera for me to do a review. . I asked them if I could borrow it for a while. You are correct about the hipster market.
Bit harsh, these astrophotography images are the best I've seen even on higher end models. Infact I saw a video on the Z8 and final image didn't even look half as good 😂. Purely comes down to the tool and the photographer as always.
@@silverstone6644 I think you misunderstood 😊 Nikon's sensors are great for Astro, and as you said, it comes down to the photographer and skills. I'm sure Richard can produce amazing results with any camera, that's just his talent and expertise! 💪🏽
But this particular camera's ergonomics and application is not for Astro but more for travel and hipster market. That was my point.
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@@silverstone6644 I very much appreciate your kind words.
Nearly brought one when they were released,there a sexy camera. I keep going back and looking , but for now I'll have to stay with olympus.
Great review. Thanks for the time. saturday of to a good start
Yes they do look good Phil, but handling is not great at all.
Excellent video Richard 🙂
Always appreciate your comments Lisa. I'll be trying out the new Z6ii at some point in the future.
@@nightscapeimages.richard I’ll very much look forward to watching that! Looks like a great upgrade from the Z6ii. 🙂
The lack of remote shutter port is what stopped me buying this camera, none of the APSC Z cameras have one either. Before someone says, just use the bluetooth remote, it doesn't allow shutter lock-on, sequential shooting or even a shutter half-press, it's terrible. The workaround is the internal intervalometer, which does sort of fix this, with quirks. Thanks for the video which was very informative. One thing you can't fault is the image quality, super stuff as always.
Yes my thoughts exactly, range may be another issue with bluetooth. Thanks for watching.
That was a really well done review, from a perspective unlike all the other Zf reviews I have seen or read. Given your needs, your comments are totally reasonable. (I still want to get one, but I'm not an astrophotographer.) Oh, and your pictures are amazing!
Thanks so much Jim, I appreciate your comments.
Hi Richard. Your photos are always amazing regardless of the equipment you use! I believe Nikon "missed the mark" by sending you this camera for astrophotography. We are more concerned with usability and quality than design (modern or retro). Surely, a street photographer will have a different opinion in this case. Meanwhile, waiting for the dreadful rains here in southern Brazil to let up so I can get back to shooting. Best Wishes!
Thanks Rafael. In Nikon's defense they didn't actually ask me to do a review of this camera . .I took that upon myself.
There is a bluetooth remote that nikon makes (ML-L7) for shutter release that works wonderfully.
Thanks for watching. Yes I'm aware of that device .. however I don't have one. . and I'm a bit skeptical about the range of any Bluetooth device.
Thanks Richard for a great, honest review. Great images too as usual. I have to agree with what you said about the lack of a grip. I’d be afraid of dropping it if I didn’t have a strap around my neck. I can walk around with my heavy D850 in one hand with no problem. I do love that Starlight feature though. Look forward to your next video.
Thanks so much for your comments Steve.
Great photos! FWIW, the Smallrig accessory grip, aside from addressing most of the ergo issues raised (though still not as nice as a built in grip), gives you an Arca Swiss tripod mount and battery/card access at the same time. In daylight, the small LCD for aperture is useful. It’s a camera that is more than capable at delivering in many genres but not ideal for some, and is probably a bit polarising for some people. Fair enough, it’s not for everyone.
Yes all fair comments. Appreciate you watching.
Your alway a good watch. Good stuff
I'm glad you enjoy the videos Mikey
Hi Richard - thanks for an interesting review. The camera has a couple of things in common with my Sony A6700. 1. Night Mode that is really useful for getting the composition right in the dark. 2. Lack of a port for an external intervalometer/remote - looks like this Nikon has a USB C connector as does my Sony. My A6700 has extended shutter speed range beyond 30s and also has an excellent built in intervalometer. But I can't use shutter speeds greater than 30s with the intervalometer - very annoying! 😥 I do like the flip out screen - very useful when camera is mounted on a telescope that can be in all sorts of positions depending on what you're shooting & time of night.
Great comments Darrel. Appreciate your insights.
The thing with this “boxy” style of camera is that you don’t hold them in your right hand. You hold the camera in your left hand cradling the lens from underneath. Then you tuck your left elbow into your body and stabilise the camera with your right hand. This way you can shoot handheld down to 1/15 without ibis. And there was a lot of analog film cameras with a grip even a few Nikons, F100 F5 F6. The Nikon D1 was based on the F5. There ware a few Canons as well. Contax RTS, Leica R8 and R9. So having a grip isn’t a digital camera thing. There are still a few digital cameras around with a “box shape” a bunch of fuji cameras, the Leica M series, there ware a few Olympus cameras, even Nikon had a retro full frame DSLR back in 2013 named Nikon Df. It had a bitt of a finger hold but not really a grip. it was a bit ahed of its time with the retro style or maybe not compact egnof. I liked it and used it professionally for a few years. I’m considering switching back to Nikon with the Zf from my fuji gear. The Zf looks to be perfect for manual focus primes. I love the look of the Leica summicron lenses. Had a 35mm summicron on my M6 back in the days. You can get the voightlander APO lenses in 35mm and 50mm for the Z mount and they are almost identical to the Leica summicron lenses in performance and look without the prise tag of the lenses and M cameras. Sorry for the long rant 😅
No worries about the long rant. You are obviously very passionate about your photography. Thanks for tuning in.
Fantastic images as always Richard. Would luv to see John Deere market your image on a road side Billboard. Farm with John Deere for a interstellar yield.
Haha, great idea Andrew.
I didn't realize that it doesn't even have the dc2 remote port. It seems like its been designed to be a secondary camera for someone whos already using a z8 or the upcoming z6iii
You'll see that Nikon and probably other manufacturers always leave out things like remote ports on their entry level cameras . .so this Zf is obviously rated that way by Nikon. Obviously it's designed as a walk around, street camera and not so suited to long exposure photography.. especially with the light painting methods I use.
Beautiful images, Richard. I really love the Milky Way in a rural setting. Gorgeous timelapse too. Thanks so much.
Always appreciate your comments Joan
Stunning images and candid, honest reviewing style as always Richard 👍. I just can't get excited about the Nikon Zf (had my retro fill back in the day with a Canon AE1 Program 😂).
What I do get excited about is that it gives us some indication what the Nikon z6iii may bring to the table.
Thanks for watching Greg. I'm also waiting very patiently for the Z6iii
Damn, I just bought the Zfc a week ago. I didn't know they made a full frame version. But then again, looking at the price being more than double of the Zfc, I think I can live with a cropped frame, lol. It's proper Z 7II money.
As for the grip, there is a really nice 3rd party grip available for the Zfc that also has a built-in tripod mount, and I am sure it would be a matter of time before a Zf version is made. I love my Zfc, and I am happy they decided to make a full frame version of it.
Thanks Michael. Yes I see there are a few manufacturers making grips for these cameras now.
A very good and honest review, cheers Richo. As you have found, the image quality is very much the same as the Z6/II, and for your use-case, better to stick with your Z6II, or wait for the Z6III. The Zf is geared towards a different genre, that of street-photography, or those lusting after a retro-styled beast, which this is.
I absolutely love to take it on my frequent travels, and using it with either my Voigtländer 40 f1.2 z-mount, or, with any of my old AF-D or Zeiss ZF.2 F-mount glass via the FTZII adapter. It brings me back to the old analog SLR days, slowing down things and at least for me, putting me into the scene, as merely observing it from a distance.
Horses for courses, it is a very nice camera with very fast electronics, extremely capable AF if/when required, but in my use-case, the retro-dials and especially the Voigtländer native z-mount combination, takes me back decades. I just love the experience.
Beautiful pictures btw, thanx for sharing, and no reason Nikon won’t sent you more gear to review. Always enjoy your videos, keep it up.
Thanks for your great insights my friend.
Very informative video thanks, im glad you mentioned the image quality i am a Z6 user looking to improve my work.
The image quality is very good from the Zf but so is the Z6. It is the same sensor in both cameras with a different processor.
Gorgeous shots! Traded in my Z6 for the Zf and very happy with it. Much more capable camera but then not using primarily for night shots. Starview is really nice though and got some nice aurora shots the other night. Your point about no remote port became painfully clear during aurora shots. Had a cheap 3rd party BT remote that also confirms your point...you get what you pay for. Trashed it and got the Nikon version yesterday. Much better!
I was also impressed with the Viltrox. Been looking at those but hesitating due to question about image quality. Bought a Nikon z 50mm 1.8 but now considering taking another look at the wider Viltrox offerings. Great review, thanks.
BTW, got my Zf with the Smallrig grip because knew it would be an issue for me coming from the Z6. Grip works great! Has the Arca-Swiss built in so removes one or two of your dislikes.
Also, while I loved my Z6 images, there does seem to be a little something better with these. I know it's the same sensor and may be wishful thinking but when I took my first couple shots with with the Zf, I found myself muttering " damn!! " to myself.
Thanks a lot for watching Bill. Yes I know that feeling about the first impressions when viewing the back screen of the Zf . .I was the same. Some great insights there.
Thanks for all you do Richard. Im looking at upgrading to full frame mirrorless from my old Canon 400D... was almost settled on the Z6ii after seeing your Time-lapse beast video. But I'm thinking i should wait to see what the Z6iii brings? (Z6ii is top of my budget... also looking closely at Sony A7iii which is quite a bit cheaper here in NZ)
All good options Adrian. Obviously the Z6ii will be more expensive when it arrives but I reckon it'll be good. The Z6ii and Sony A73 are also excellent options. After that you'll need to sort out lens options.
Hi Richard, looks like this camera is better suited for daytime shooting, but the pictures were beautiful nonetheless. Take care, Jerry
That's so true Jerry. Great image quality with some wonderful features, let down by the awkward design in my opinion.
Very nice video! Many camera designers are not photographers, so we have products like Nikon ZF.
Yes that is so true.
You should take that tractor image to the tractor manufacturer and see if you can pitch them to have them contract you to photograph their equipment. Who else but you could make their equipment look “out of this world”? 😉😂
Thanks for your kind words Mike. I'm sure John Deere have people lining up to do that ..!!!
@@nightscapeimages.richard You're undervaluing your work. I bet that they have never seen an image like the one you made.
Great review Richard with a lot of relevance to all cameras as to how they work for night photography.
I recently bought a Sony a7RV and just got their 14mm F1.8 GM lens. I can say its a fantastic combination for night/astro photography in my short journey so far with this setup. I found the ergonomics of the setup nice for night photography. The screen on this beast is the best of both worlds being able to tilt and flip out which is a genius of design. For my Sony I have yet to find an equivalent to the Nikon starlight mode for composing as I have to take several shots to get the framing right. Generally another aspect is the lighting of foreground and how it is blended in editing which I need to work on a great deal more as I am most interested in doing astrophotography within a landscape.
Thanks so much for watching Andrew. You will find "Bright Monitoring" somewhere in the Sony A7r5 menu . .it does the same thing as "Starlight Mode" on the Nikon. Lighting and blending is an artform which requires lots of practice. See this video playlist: czcams.com/play/PLAYKmqkUeSM_ovfT8k7ifk26X4zjeqJWb.html
@@nightscapeimages.richard Looks like a great playlist. I'll go and make it a watch over the coming weeks.
The whole point of this camera is the retro look and feel. And there is just not enough real estate on the top area for a large lcd screen. Despite what you say, you still got great star photos. So,it is doable in a retro style full frame camera that will beat the pants off of the Fuji’s. I love my ZF…..and it’s sunset orange like your click bait pic.
Haha, yes it is a bit click baity isn't it . .but your comments are quite valid. As I mentioned I love the internals and image quality of the camera.
Exactly Richard...Best review out there. I've been shooting Nikon from the film days and gone through the whole ups and downs of digital development with them but always stuck with Nikon because I know the system plus the image quality, familiarity etc.. They're often "late to the table" with some tech but that's because they take time to keep legacy things such as being able to use old lenses, except D drive, and eventually bring compelling products. However, to me the Zf is a fashion statement and fun camera rather than a true working machine. Great for vloggers and travelers... If I want the dials and no grip I would shoot film as many still do. I think, and hope, the Z6iii will have the goodies of the Zf plus a 24mp stacked sensor with no high speed blackout like my Z8 and it has a grip, sorted.. I still use my Z6ii for night photos/higher ISO stuff and love the image quality, as we all know it's only certain things with the auto-focus that let it down....PS The new Viltrox 16mm looks like it's performing really well next to the Nikkor 20mm, good stuff.
Thanks for your great comments. I am expecting great things from the Z6iii when it arrives . .in fact so much so that I'll be placing an immediate order for one when that happens.
@@nightscapeimages.richard Me too..Thanks. 🙂
I believe this camera uses the old school shutter release cable that screws into the trigger button like my FM2. Old school shutter release cable goes with the whole vibe, Fuji uses that on a lot of their retro cameras as well.
Yes that may well be the case. A bit outdated for me I think, and not very useful as a remote where I want to trigger the camera from distance.
not is just for a soft button.
I would have liked to hear a bit more about your optical impressions of using both the Nikon 20mm 1.8 and the viltrox 16mm 1.8 image quality wise.
That's a good question. I like the Viltrox 16mm but it's not quite as good as the Nikon 20mm f1.8S.
Z6 iii 🤞🌌
That's the one I'm waiting for Robert
Beautiful images. It is retro, you hold it with two hands, not one :) but I understand, it can be tough to hold it, but once you hold the camera with two hands, everything is good lol.. it is crazy how much photographers nit pick and complain lol. ufff
Yes I suppose you're right. I'm only going by my comparison with other models which are far easier to handle.
Great vid thanks! Subbed.
I really appreciate that Chris.
I think your review is honest. Kinda a bit over the top on the negatives tho.
I own one, a grip was $35 dollars. Making it ergonomics excellent, also solving your changing battery and accessing your cards. So long story short, $35 solves your (3) biggest complaints.
Yes that's a fair comment Timothy. I suppose it comes down to what you mostly want to do with a particular camera. For me that's tripod mounted long exposures. This camera can do that very well .. just a lot more difficult than the other Z models.
Do you have videos showing the techniques you used for some of these photos? Theyre amazing
Yes I sure do Dennis. Start here: czcams.com/play/PLAYKmqkUeSM_ovfT8k7ifk26X4zjeqJWb.html
Really appreciate honesty is the best policy... Thank you
Thanks for looking John
I have Z5 and I want something similar but with Expeed 7. Zf is very good camera but those ergonomics etc. vs cool looking body design make me hesitate. Would be cool for portraits and street photography. For action and wildlife I'd like Z5II or Z6III.
I agree completely.
Having a large grip has its drawbacks as well, its not as adaptable especially when traveling it can’t fit easily in a small case or at times when u want to be more discreet you can’t, with the Zf you always have that option to add a bigger grip, Small Rig” make an excellent option which solves the problem. I use the small rig L bracket on all my Fuji XT4 cameras and I shoot weddings without any discomfort whatsoever, The Fuji XT4 has the same shallow style grip as the Zf- Obviously someone is copying someone. The XT4 is absolutely brilliant in the fact i can dress it up or dress it down with adding either an L bracket or a larger external battery grip to look like a full Pro. Which this is an option i think the Nikon have overlooked adding and L bracket is fantastic but being able to morf into a full Pro beast running two or more batteries would have been even better. I’m loving the reviews on this camera and the fact it didn’t hinder you taking your amazing astro images says it all. This would be a great Full frame addition to shoot alongside my Fuji X trans as the Fuji are not the best in low light. From a current Fuji user this looks like a logical step into Full frame and the fact the Z mount allows 3rd party lens manufacturers is another bonus unlike Canon do.
Thanks for your great insights Elias. Appreciate you watching.
No richard if you ajust your l braket properly its not an issue with a flippy screen
Sometimes it does get in the way.
Although I am not too keen on product reviews, I do really appreciate your honesty! What was your interval time between shots on time lapse and what type torch did you use to light the tractor? Most my torches are too bright and I end of covering with a tee shirt or something - have you tried using a dim-able torch (flashlight). As always, thank you and keep the content coming!
Thanks so much Kerry. The shutter speed was 15 seconds with an interval between each shot of 3 seconds. I use the LED Lenser P7 series of torches .. on the lowest setting.
Nikon should give you a Z8 to test. It would be interesting to see how the low light capabilities stack up against the Z6ii. I am patiently waiting for the Z6iii announcement and subsequent reviews as well.
Wouldn’t be a fair comparison with the 8 bring 45mp vs 24 for the 6’s
Well the Z8 is an awesome camera for sure David. It has all the features of this Zf plus a lot more. But I do love the Z6ii low light and high iso performance.
Thanks Ken. I'm also patiently waiting for that Z6iii
Nice, looking little camera. Oh, it's a pretty good price tag on it too. Beautiful shots, Did you get any of the Aurora down home? We had clouds here.
Thanks heaps Jeff. Yes wonderful auroras down here last night.
Other reviews I've seen have alluded to the internal features possibly being a preview of the Z6III. But like you, most of those reviews bemoan the external features. The lack of external ports is certainly a negative. Just my theory, but I would blame the EU for the fussiness of the power delivery. With their requirements across the whole spectrum of battery powered electronics, many manufacturers had to revamp the technical specs of their products.
Not having a top screen is a deal breaker for me. I just finally upgraded to mirrorless, and I went with the Z6 over the Z5 for that reason. When I got my D600, I loved having that top screen, which I didn't have on my previous cameras.
Completely agree about the inconvenience of the memory access and the battery door. When I had a Canon Rebel T6 and T7, if I used a battery grip and needed to change my memory card, I had to disconnect the battery grip. That's a terrible design, IMO.
You mentioned the AF is phenomenal, especially compared to the Z6. That's funny. I was testing out my Z6, and I was amazed at how fast it grabbed focus compared to my D600... and that's with using a third party F to Z adapter. I would probably be blown away if I got to try out the Zf.
Great review. Incredible pictures!
Thanks Derek. I find the auto focus on the Z6 quite good but sometimes on moving targets it misses . .that's there the Zf is much better.
There is a trigger for it!
Yes I believe there is a bluetooth option.
Richard, are you getting the auroras with this solar storm there? Hope you are and get to shoot it!
Yes I was out there all night Kerry
I use the Nikon ML-L7 wireless remote with my Zf.
Yes a few have mentioned that here. What's the range like for that ..??
I get approximately 20 to 25 yards in the open.
Thanks for the informative review Richard. I’m wondering about the low light noise performance and if the camera includes a timer? 😎👊👍🇦🇺
The low light performance looks exactly the same as the Z6ii, which makes sense as it seems to have the exact same sensor with a different processor. Yes it does have a timer.
Thanks Richard, stunning photos as usual. As far as the grip is concerned, would this really be an issue for nightscape photography seeing as though the camera is on a tripod the majority of the time, or have I missed something. Thanks, really liked the review.
Also what was your work around for the lack of a remote release port? Cheers
You're right of course Brad. The camera is on a tripod when shooting these long exposures. I didn't have a workaround for the remote . .I physically pressed the shutter button for all of these shots.
Thanks Richard. Awesome shots....I used my friends Zf recently; he had a grip, so that part was ok: but definitely not an Astro camera for me (daytime walkabout model more likely IMO). But may I ask how do you find the Viltrox in comparison to the Nikon Z 20mm especially with regards to coma, vignetting and sharpness. Thanks again mate. Much appreciated
Thanks as always Manjul. I find the Viltrox just a slight step under the Nikon 20 for quality of image. . but I think it's the best Viltrox lens I've tested so far. The Nikon 20mm f1.8S sets a very high standard.
If they start using flippy screens I may be convinced to cross to the dark side
Haha, don't do it.
Do you know where to get the transmission curve of sensors and lenses?
I don't know anything about transmission curves.
So, how do you map the Starlight Mode on the Zf? Alan
You just go into the menu where it gives you the options to assign functions to certain buttons. I don't have the camera any more so I can't tell you exactly where that is . .but I found it no trouble when I had the camera.
Wait -- you say you did not like film cameras because they were hard to hold ?
I think there were and still are some of the ergonomically best cameras ever made there from Nikon , like the F100 and the F6 !
Well possibly they were better than the film cameras I had but I wouldn't want to go back to those days.
Thank you very much for your review! I was thinking of buying this camera one day and was wondering how does it perform for night photos.
I have another question - did you try 17-28mm f2.8 nikon z lens? Does it worth it buying for astro? Or it is better to have fixed focal length lenses like 16, 20,35?
Thanks for watching Alexey. Yes I did try the 17-28 f2.8 and found it really good for astro photography. See my review here: czcams.com/video/-GAPYT_DHvo/video.html
Having said that my preference is for fast aperture prime lenses.
@@nightscapeimages.richard thank you. I might have missed that one. Will watch it later for sure... I am going for hiking and thinking either to take 2 lenses (and the weight will be ...) or take this one with zoom... Thanks again!
@@nightscapeimages.richard and last question - if you have to choose Viltrox 16mm or Nikon 17-28, what would you choose? With regards to quality of images.
@@the_film_foto I would choose the Viltrox 16mm f1.8 .. mainly because of the very fast aperture.
Why you not use your viltrox lens??
I did use the Viltrox lens for a lot of these shots.
You are wrong sir about one thing there is actually a remote release for this camera. It is wire you screw into shutter button :)
Which requires you to stand next to the camera . .something that is not good enough for my use.
@@nightscapeimages.richard oh allright :) PS how do you remotely trigger your Z6II beside the snapbridge option?
@@pvetesnik There is a separate port on the side of the camera where you place a wire from a remote. I use the Yongnuo RF603ii wireless unit.
Sorry to say it, but you can use remote control ML-L7 instead of the mobile. ❤
Yes that Bluetooth remote may work when close to camera but I often get a long way away to trigger the camera.
You have missed the point with the Zf. It's a retro camera! It comes without the grip and has dials etc etc. It's like buying a 4x4 ute and complaining about its size and no boot storage. If you like SUVs then don't buy a 4x4 ute. I love my Zf. I have an L bracket installed "backwards". Helps with grip. Yes every now and again I have to spend a few seconds to access the battery or card. No big deal for me.
All very good points you make Bruce. I'm waiting patiently for the Z6iii
What do you have connected to the camera while using the Benro Polaris?
Just a usb-c cable connected from the polaris to the camera to control the shutter etc.
@@nightscapeimages.richard thanks! I just ordered mine and I’m wondering if I can use my other triggers for Timelapse photography like the Pluto or Miops
If those triggers use a usb-c type cable then I'd assume you can. My triggers typically use the standard Nikon 10 pin cable which isn't on the Zf.
@@nightscapeimages.richardthanks for the feedback! I also have a z6ii but I’ll have this one as my main body now. I’m a girl so my hands are smaller and I shoot on tripod also Astro so no need to walk around holding it. I think I’ll be a great camera! 😊
@@Azhoneybeeastro That's wonderful Edith, you'll enjoy it.
shame you did not try the pixel shift.
I don't need to use pixel shift for the type of photography I do.
Third party grip: around 50 Euro
Thanks for watching.
I'm always interested why we want to go back to the 1970's for design, when technology and function has moved on. Although I do own classic motorcycles and a classic car, but I wouldn't own something new that's pretending to be old, just makes no sense to me
Yes I totally agree with you Tony.
Not including a remote port is way too low end. On a multi thousand dollar camera, it's simply unacceptable. I hope it flops just because of that, though I'm sure it wont. Got to love the wireless remote shutter remote and the simple, single button push and then hands free for the flashlight. I drilled a small hole in the case of mine where no electronics are, ran a little cord and a clip on the end, so it hangs on my belt loop. Just click and light paint. I'm still super happy with my old D610. I don't want for anything.
Yes I also love the simplicity of the wireless remote. And the range is outstanding and I use it a long way from the camera many times.