Does the Woodtype Influence the Sound of a Flute? Comparing two Handdrilled Romanian Style Caval
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2021
- I made another quick sound comparing video in my workshop of these 2 handmade drilled Romanian Caval~Kaval flutes I made out of Hazelwood and Dogwood.
Can you hear the difference in sound? What type of wood sounds the best in your opinion?
Let me know in the comment section!
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Both are so beautiful and have their own sound. Dogwood is probably giving a more economical sound like a classical instrument but i prefer the woody ethnic hazelwood. I am trying to learn to make folk flutes with the giant cane which grows locally in Cyprus. It's even more light and breathy
I don't know what's going on with the CZcams feed today, but every video recommended lead to absolutely incredible channels! I'm curious: What country are you in?
What I can hear immediately is that the harder wood produces a 'cleaner' sound on my crappy laptop speakers...
I'm sure the softer wood is 'eating up' some of the kinetic energy from the oscillating air column and the sound is therefore less defined, or 'crisp' as you put it. Inversely, the harder wood must reflect the oscillating air column more efficiently and project the sound better, producing a cleaner, crisper sound.
They both sound great.
I can imagine they both have their venues where they shine best...
That sounds aout right ;) Depending on the project, mood and atmosphere you can opt for a more inverted or more projected sound.
@@1fujara I enjoyed the sound of the softer hazelwood flute.......I am making a native american style flute using PVC, it's not done yet but I've been thinking if I should try to slightly roughen the interior of the PVC pipe somehow, to simulate this effect of a softer wood. Do you think this might be a good idea?
the sound of the hazelwood is very "natural", I really like the soft and warm tone of it
I honestly like both, i really like the crisp and sharp sound of the hardwood.
Physics already demonstrated that the material of a wind instrument does not affect the sound. It is the shape of the column of air that resonates, and the only factor of the material is its internal texture as it creates more or less friction.
like the dog wood one for the lip technique and the hasel for the recorder technique
Hah, interesting!
This is pretty sick! I want one now lol!
Hello from Romania ! 👋🏻
Waaaw! klinkt super mooi!!
Ik verkies de zonder lip de dogwood, en met lip de hazel
Dog wood all day, just like you said "crisp".
Very nice.
I like the Hazelwood most, more complex and warmer tone.
Frist. Great video, winne. And great flutes!! I prefer Hazelwood.
Hah! Yes Hazel is great sounding wood! I am making fujara out of Hazel as we speak!
Did like the the more clear and tight sound from the Hazel. But to make this really sure I would need to hear different flutes from the same wood type to compare 😎🙏
True! To have a real objective listen I should compare 5 to 5 or something.
Felicitări!
Both sounds amazing! :)
To me the harder wood has less complex harmonics, more fundamental and it's closest harmonics.
So I would use it when in need for a cleaner melody and the softer wood for more complexity.
Bravo!
Hazel wood seems to resonate slightly higher, a cleaner sound. Both are magnificent. That mouth technique is incredible, the sound it makes it almost metallic. Thank you
I prefer the Dogwood, it produces a much clearer treble and higher overtones. Both are lovely flutes I just prefer the clarity of the Dogwood.
Great video I play recorder these are huge. Good job I love the sound of Hazelwood
Both sound amazing but I have a preference for Hazelwood :)
Thanks!
Nice round bright sound with the dogwood flute which I like. Both are awesome however.
I like the hazel wood better personally. Because i like the way the over tones melt into the cleaner tones. Its more seemless. And in the same way when you use the special embouchure. The three different sounds im hearing (overtones, special embouchure sounds, and clean sounds) all melt together in a smoother way.
how many years did it take you to master that skill? as wind, as water, gentle as a woman this sound of your flute. I like the both sounds. the dogwood flute was special with its sharpness and cleaner sound.
Dogwood, it has a much rounder and warmer sound and a higher pitch
I don't think it is an either or question. Both flutes have their merit. I think it might be more a question of which flute is better for a particular song or type of expression. I think they are both EXCELLENT flutes and they both have their unique sounds.
i like the dogwood sound better, more crisp and clean.. going to look up what kind of wood that is actually.. hondshout? lol thanks for sharing Winne!
kornoeljeboom, ken ik niet, ben nochtans nen natuurliefhebber.. 🌱🌲🌳
Hah , interesting! In het Vlaams; Kornoelje!
@@1fujara ik herken de bloesem wel idd.. had geen idee dat het zo'n hard hout is.. :)
Maravilloso sonido
Thank you Carlos!
Yes, they sound different. I think they both are valuable sounds, but I like the softer wood sound. It is a little more diffuse with more complex Timbre (overtones) which would suit getting emotion in the sound and being able to use long notes with feel, but then if you wanted fast clean riffs the harder wood would Work better.
Could you do a video on building a Algoza please it’s double flute from India
I wood turn and a friend asked me to make him a flute. I've never made one and I had a question if you don't mind me asking. Do the shape and size of the holes matter? If so could you possibly elaborate, and would you know the approximate size of the holes needed? I have watched your part 1 video of flute making and the process was very beautiful. The results in part 2 we're absolutely stunning. I very much enjoyed watching.
Hi Winne! What do you think of a Romanian Caval (gypsy scale) in Irish Blackthorn. Im making one at the moment. Hoping for it in the A scale. Ive established some measurements. Just wondering on your input? What measurements would you use? I love the kavals in this video keeping some of the natural bark. The blackthorn bark when polished is purple so im hoping for an aesthetic look simalar to yours. Your music and the instrumenrs you create are amazing. Thanks for your great content!
Do you have a tutorial on the “circular breathing?
That's very interesting. I was about to write pretty much the exact thing you said about the different sound characteristics. Funnily enough, I prefer the hazelwood. I think it sounds like you are more able to 'bite' into it,- if that makes sense. Especially the lip technique sounds much wilder. Maybe something to do with a stronger fundamental compared to the harmonics. I am not sure though.
The angle in which my lip covers the soundwindow is a bit different on the Hazelwood kaval this results in a bit wilder sound as you mention! And yes when the sound is less straight forward you kind of have more volume range to play with sometimes. To make the coparison completely fair I should actually make a video with 4 Hazelwood kavals against 4 Dogwood ones, to filter out playing and manufacturing differences. But I wanted to see if people pick up differences to start with.
@@1fujara Very interesting!
Do you know of any resources that would teach me how to make a Fujara? I'm absoloutly in love with those things and even if I could afford one, I'd still rather attempt to make one myself cause that's how I'm wired.
Hey Winne!
I've recently felt the urge to make a flute and I was wondering what the drill bits you use are called and how to get something like it.
for me dogwood is more open breathe, more easy to play, find Hazelwood a little bit closed sound. actually making a kena bass with a giant stalk of fennel, not made the holes for now standing to find where I will choose and how many notes, not decided. sweet blow. Love your channel and you work. Did a bezel with front and lateral bezels in the rectangle so some disturbance making a nature wind blow, but I think will use more air, big diameter inside. Pretty job as I keep my three goats in fields. but I also practice music on computers and synths, searching a fusion of sounds. very surprised about lovely and variety sounds from your different whistles. Will try soon to make a hole in a piece of pearwood ! (I'm thinking about how I will create easily the technical material to do that, but as I see, must use a strong one to be precise). , for now I search a other piece of long part of giant fennel (5cm diameter, 50 cm long! in one segment... perhaps could I use two or three segment as I see on the Turkish one. frenski gena living in South West Bulgaria, lovely music also!
Music that's a fusion of synth with handmade flutes sounds extremely compelling and I'm very curious, can I hear your music online anywhere?
@@j3ffn4v4rr0no where at this time, so sorry. In fact I moved to Bulgaria in a village wher I repair a house, having animals, goats, hens, garden, taking all my time. Then also the end of the world coming in the around next ten year by Sun's micro nova, so, I'm am in man hand works mostly than reinstalling my studio. That's worrying me a lot not be able to make my music, hope taking a decision this winter, and making all my studio and wind instruments in order to be played as in moving nomadic conditions.
🙏🧡💚 You are right, wind instrument s are giving space , natural space, and synths are able to add in the same way a man kind of field sounds, taking the imagination. I were fan of Tangerine dreams and Klaus Schulze, and others I woul have to name, specially non rythmic music. I'm a long time fan with Amerindian music, kena wind music from Andes mountains.
If I post some music I will give you a link!🙏🧡💚
Do you also make whistles in normal European scales?
Interesting surname Kliment. In Serbia we would write it like this. I am from old Iliriic tribe called Klimenti. Albanians are calling it Keljmendi and saying that it is Albanian tribe because they think they are Ilirians which they are not. Interesting story. So Klimenti are old Iliric (Serbian) tribe.
Winnie do you think that blowing bubbles through a straw is a good way to learn circular breathing?
How you can compare wood on 2 diference instruments with 2 diferecne sound windows with many many other diferences. Wood is cover of resonator which is air inside the pipe. It is the same case when you put yourself in big plastic pipe and start singing some tone. Then you put yourself in iron pipe and start singing the same tone. Sound will be totaly same. Energy from resonator(air inside pipe) is not such powerfull to resonate cover ( wooden pipe ) so the wooden pipe can ifluence the resonator and add some more harmonics.... (Maybe a little bit but they can be measure only on perfect mic and softweare). But I understand it is lovely fairytales and people loves these kind of content.
Hi jacub, you are absolutely right that it would be a more fair comparison if I would take 5 flutes of each wood and compare them all to spread the small differences in soundwindow and fipple etc more to see if any of the woods stand out. However the bore of these two is exactly the same and the fipple size is as well. And yes, I know many studies have been done on this topic and the conclusion of some lab studies is that the material doesn't influence a flutes sound, as long as the smoothness of the bore is the same. In my personal expierence however I have clearly noticed a difference in the sound and character of different types of wood.probably because of the microscopical structure of the bore and the easy or more difficult it is to polish. Also resulting in air reacting different in the windway and on the fipple. This being said, a handmade flutes sound like this is mostely determined by the craftsman and the used dimentions, but also a part is determined by the chosen wood, for the reasons mentionned above in my opinion. This is my personal and humble experience after more then 17 years of flutemaking. I made this video not as a scientific study but more as a comparison between two different flutes and it was a fun question to pose.Keep up the good work with your flutes, have fun. Cheers
Hazelwood wins.
Dogwood much more crisp
Hazelwood is a yes, mellow...fruit wood....do wood is more doggy, really😏