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Every time Dave sets up an $80 Christmas guitar, another angel gets his wings.
$500 in specialist tools, 30+ years of experience, and your $80 bass can play and sound like a Real Squier.
Props to Glarry for being willing to take their lumps. Most honest Glarry review I've seen.
True dat.
Check out Trogly's Guitar Show. Glarry send him guitars regularly and he ALWAYS gives them a glowing review right out of the box!!
@@philgallagher1 I've seen it. There are now so many "reviews" of them (and similar products) by so many people that I just skip them when they show up in my feed.
Definitely not buying a Glarry guitar now. 😁
Before watching too much of this one, just wanted to say hat's off to Glarry for putting yourselves out there and letting Davey react to it. The world needs entry-level instruments at affordable prices, and as someone who likes to pay it forward to encourage new musicians, I say kudos to you and Davey.
I’m guessing they cherrypicked this example.
@@trappenweisseguy27 I've heard a lot of very good things about Glarry, over here in the civilized world. Never seen one, though.
TrappenWeisseGuy ; Trogly addressed this last week, Glarry offered him a guitar to review and keep and to avoid the cherry pick as much as possible he chose a model and noted the shipping time. It seemed unlikely that Glarry would have had the time to jump through the hoops to pick or perfect an assembly line example. The possibility exists that they could have been extra quality careful with a batch to use as review models, though user reviews seem to match reviewer reviews, if you catch my view ...
I bought my daughter one of their ibanez knock-offs about a year ago. After a good setup and upgraded pickups, it has been great. I didn't even have to touch the frets. She's using it tonight for a Christmas jam with fellow students.
I agree Glarry did a solid by sending it to Dave. He should be a little kinder to Glarry, especially since he is giving it away. An $80 bass with a $200 setup.
My first bass was a Glarry. After some setup and fret work, it played well enough to do its job: getting me to the point where I decided I wanted to stick with the hobby and invest in something nicer.
Was your hobby guitar repair?
$80 BD (before Dave) = $150 AD (after Dave)
Guitar techs earn their money. Every time.
At the end of the day, a cheap guitar with a good setup can be a lot more inspiring to play than an expensive guitar with a bad setup. With a few exceptions, maybe, you should always bring your brand new guitar straight from the store to the luthier... Personally, I did not like my bass and considered selling it until I decided to bring it to a specialist. I love it now... night and day.
I actually learned from "the Great One", Dave, how to do my own setups. Did a friend's Lotus P Copy and my Godfather's 1970 Precision as well as my own two.
Pay $80 and practice all the tips I've learned from Dave over the past 2 years!
"a little high, like my viewers"
lmao
guilty
Drinkin Tullamore Dew
@@mikeanderson4770 at least he didn't say high like it was a bad thing
Guilty as charged ! I live in Amsterdam so...
My first electric guitar was a Yamaha Pacifica and 28 years later I still play it.
It’s Christmas morning and I’m ready to play some Black Sabbath 😂
When I was a kid it was a Silvertone from the Sears catalog........we've come a long way.....Thanks Glarry
Kudos to Glarry & Dave. Happy Christmas. God Bless Us, Everyone.
Mad respect to Glary guitars for donating the bass! Dave's video proves what I've always said that you can take almost any cheap guitar or bass and with a little knowledge, specialized Luthier tools, and skill you can make it a serviceable instrument. With further parts replacement (ie: bridge, tuning keys, and pickups) you can make it an even better playing and sounding guitar or bass. Knowledge is power. Dave you are a gentleman for helping to make some poor kids Christmas wish come true! Lost of good karma coming Daves way.
Good that Glarry have sent you a bass to look at, I’m sure they **can** use your video as feedback to whoever is building these.
Cheap instruments are a great regardless of how good they are, I believe that if they aren’t easy to play it can bring out those determined to learn and those who will give up easily. I still remember some of my beginner instruments, horrid. Lol
MJTbreww I'm pretty sure these are Chinese factory guitars. They just crank them out for the beginner market. My first guitar was pretty cheap and crappy but it didn't stop me from playing it. And that was 1966!
Jonathan Hands At the prices they’d have to be! My first bass was from a company called Artist Guitars and while made in China it played really well but this is literally about a year ago or so, the quality of beginner instruments has highly likely improved lol
Sees "$80 bass guitar" in video title.
Grabs some popcorn
Sending thoughts and prayers for Dave's sanity and blood pressure.
It didn't turn out to be that bad. Rickenbacker still takes the cake, at 20x the price.
It's more of a DIY Hobby Kit than a bass guitar.
If you have the tools around!
Hi Dave, I got an acoustic guitar when I was 16 - after pestering my parents for about 4 years. It was £15 in 1972 - Laredo - made in Japan. It was absolute crap - unplayable above the third fret. But I knew no better and I loved it. Looking back I have no idea how I ever managed to learn how to play. Really enjoy your videos! Best wishes - another Dave😊
I'm all eyes and ears on this like everyone else Dave
His Christmas dreams dashed, young Dave is emotionally scarred for life and tragically grows up to become a bass player.
This company got balls to send some instrument to you, wow 😂😂😂😂
I started on a pos hollow body Tiesco or Telestar,action like a hunting bow. But I fixed it... And fixed it and learned. And suffered. And goddam it I learned to play.. Because I WANTED IT.
Teisco del Rey, hell yeah!
I love this comment, this is what it's all about.
👍🏻 thanks man.
@@Riverdeepnwide you bet :)
Yep- my first Bass was a $25 Teisco Jazz Bass.. I Learned and asked questions about action and string heighth and got that thing To Rock..
my first guitar was an acoustic that my dad got out of a skip after there was a fire at the local music store, it had various burns and scuffs on it but it still played so it was good enough to start learning on.
My first bass was a pawnshop special lotus. Heavy as hell with decent play-ability. It was good enough to start the learning process and to see if I was going to stick with it or not. Once I got a real bass things were so much easier to play.
If that bass falls apart in a year of serious playing then you know for sure the kid is serious and it's time to get a real budget bass.
Don't know how you do it Dave but you can entertain me for 35 minuets and I don't even watch TV on a regular basis.
Bravo to Glarry for sending it along. And Bravolingus to you, Davey, for applying your magic to it and making it better than new. You're a rock star!
you're a good man Dave for taking the time out to do this and find what to do with it . thanks to Glarry for setting this up .
Just one personnel note , I have three grown son now when they were little I went through all kinds of sports gear and other
stuff most of it they gave up on so if some kid sticks with this for a year it's well worth it and it's worth investing in something
better . just my thoughts .
One of the times I can appreciate your being critical.
The cost of labor, plus the guitar would warrent buying something usable out of the box.
Great lesson for anyone buying a cheap guitar. I’m old enough to remember the early 60s cheap guitars and think that today’s offerings are a million times better, you do at least have a chance of getting something playable after a bit of adjustment etc. Even if you’re a newbie to the electric guitar there are loads of good videos on CZcams that can help you, ( or your dad), sort out any problems, many of which don’t require lots of cash being spent just a little time patience and basic tools. Later on down the line if hardware etc needs replacing there a lots of options available on the likes of eBay if you’ve really become attached to the instrument
You're going to be make a kids day! Well done
Personally? I like the guitars Rondo Music sells. I've had my Agile for more than 10 years and it's still perfect. It already had grover tuners and a rosewood fret board, I just changed the pickups to Seymour Duncan. Just my opinion though.
I was on tour with a name band when both my basses failed to show up - the airlines said “Well get them to you by tomorrow” I had a show to play that night! I went to the nearest music store and bought a very used $80.00 bass made by CORT. I had the music store put on new
strings and we did a quick set up and it turned out to not sound great by itself but sounded great in the FOH mix! It cut through and became my favorite back up bass for years!
The advice Dave gives at 11:20 is one of the most useful pieces of advice that can be given to the parents of a child who is starting on an instrument.
Bought an acoustic from them for my grandson just because he has 6 Fender and Gibson electrics and just wanted something to bang on without pulling out an amp. Not a bad guitar but had a bad tuner out of the box. Notified them and they immediately sent me a set of 6. A little setup and it doesn’t sound half bad.
So glad you posted this video . When I get people asking me about the Amazon guitar buy of the year . I will have them watch this and then tell them the additional cost and expectations they can expect ...... Thanks Dave
I got a Glarry acoustic. I did the fret treatment, and other adjustments mostly like what Dave just did. It plays fairly good now. Still has poor acoustic guitar tone cause the wood was cheap. But it was 50 bucks plus a little of my dilettante luthier skills. It stays in the dressing room at a nightclub all the time for multiple bands to ding on it just about every night.
How the Gooch stole christmas.
Dave ya did a good thing, the work you put in on this kit guitar may well be the impetus for a kid to become a new bass player and if that happens you did a good thing and possibly changed someones life for the better
Got one of the j models from them about a month ago, frets were done well, no sharp one at least, couple were a smidge high but easy to level out, setup was fairly roughed in and easily finished in with exception of strings being high but not needing a shim. I did find out they use the same neck on both the p and j. Not bad for a starter or knock around bass to fool around on.
3 months later: I ended up swapping out the pickups in it to a set of Wilkinsons I had sitting in a box and strung it with Fender 9050L Stainless Steel Flatwounds. The wood the body is made of is a bit soft. I knocket it off the wall hanger and it fell about a foot onto carpet and the strap butten got pushed half way into the body. I removed the button drilled it out for a dowel slightly smaller than the button, glued in the dowel, sanded it smooth, put on some clear and pre drilled for the button screw, all is good with it now. I like the way it feels and sounds and can say with the minor tweaks i made it was worth getting.
Thanks for donating this Bass. You Da Man!
Some lucky youngster is going to have a Bass they can learn to play on and not have to worry about it for a while. I hope the kid sees this video and appreciates the Bass even more now it actually plays well thanks to the extra care you gave it, Dave.
Glarry, you do make nice looking Bass Guitars, but they definitely need a little more love in the finishing dept. Kudos for giving one to Dave for appraisal, it could have gone south very quickly, but it wasn't as bad as we all feared. Trust me, there's guys who follow Dave that had Popcorn at the ready for this one.
Agreed. It could have been a case of "Well, this is firewood..."
DAVE. YOU ARE THE MAN.
David, you are always as entertaining as you are informative. Thanks for keeping it real!
I guess even a grumpy old guitar repair guy. Has a heart at Christmas time. Merry Christmas Dave
Look at it this way Dave - had your parents bought you something nice as your first guitar then you wouldn't have any cool stories to tell.
A half an hour video of Dave fixing this one is the best Christmas present ever! Thanks, Dave!
Great Xmas Video Dave! Hope to see a few more videos like this thrown in now and then. I bought the same White Glarry Bass a few years ago and gave it a complete going over (frets setup...) and am VERY happy with it. Just like a kit guitar they are a load of fun to take apart and learn guitar setup. And if you mess up you can just buy another one, I like the Yellow one they have!
Thanks again for the videos!
Hi mate,,wanted the yellow one,and couldn't get it either!
Very nice of you and the supplier to do this, plus another great video. Thanks again Dave...
I'm thinking the supplier didn't do this for charitable reasons. They get a video out of it and Dave demonstrates that the thing can be fixed without too many tears.
Merry Christmas, Kid. No bleeding hands today. Thanks Glarry and Dave.
dave great job, you took a cheapy and made it playable for a beginner , like you said if you cant play it you cant learn it. love your channel. thanks Larry
Wow...been watching the channel for quite some time. Never saw this one. I just bought a 5 string Glarry. Did the stuff...It is actually good instrument for the price after all the adjustments. I bough a used Ampeg Classic Pedal to play it through. I am getting killer tones from it. Honestly, I gave it the all inclusive Dave World set up. Thanks for all the knowledge. Keep em coming!
Got one and the big question I had was....is it worth it? For the budget minded, ABSOLUTELY!
Thanks to this vid I grabbed my own Glarry jazz bass
"..never use the (truss rod) wrench they send.. " - proceeds to use the wrench they sent. :)
Dave that's a really nice thing you have done ! Hats off to you ☆☆☆☆ ☆☆ !
I think what every parent really wants to know is: Is the $200 Squire really any better, or will it have all the same issues?
Mee Hung Lowe I've seen sharp fret ends on 2500 euro usa guitars!
Squier Jaguar bass is 200. So yes it is better. yes sharp fret ends can come up with even guitars that cost much more. All but the lowest end Squiers are actually pretty good.
I do believe (experience) the Squier Affinity series is better than this.
I got a Sears guitar when I was about 8. I tried to play it but it hurt my hands so much I couldn’t play it. I mean like bleeding fingers. When I was 18 my buddy got a Gibson Les Paul. I tried to play it, it was so easy to play I couldn’t believe it. The rest is history..
Hey there is some guy called Dave with a CZcams channel who covers all the set up stuff on guitars. I would recommend anyone who buys one of these to watch and learn and it will serve them well. Merry Christmas Dave, your a star ! Lets hope it finds a good home.
I agree, these do more harm then good. For a few dollars more ($100-$300), there are so many better options (Squire, Epiphone, ESP, etc.). Not to forget how they are able to sell these at these prices, SLAVE LABOR! 🎶🎸
Those guitars you mentioned are made in the same factory by the same workers. Also, how does NOT buying from them help the workers there?
@@roytofilovski9530 What the fuck is your problem?? There is more than one place in China that makes guitars! And I guess that offends you knowing that you support treating people like shit in other countries! How the fuck else do you think they produce everything so cheap?? And why do you think these workers commit suicide so often they have to put nets around buildings to prevent it? WTF?
In my world 76-15=61, which is close to 60, rather than 50. Just sayin'. Seems to play ok anyway.
Yeah, I was like, "Oh no, Dave, don't do it! NOOOOOOO!"
@@lookythat2 When you're that f'n high, numbers don't matter.
It's the new math. Surprised Dave knows it!!! LOL!!!
Jimi Hendrix math...
I also wondered: What are units? Doesn't it say "1.65mm" on that bar? is he mixing units?
My first bass was a Lyon by Washburn when I was a kid. When Walmart still sold electric basses and guitar kits
Great job Dave!!! You made some kids Christmas morning
Mine was an Aria nylon string around 1970,bought with blue chip trading stamps.
This company is into everything..... Nice work as usual Dave. I had fun.
This is a great video. I feel confident I could buy one of these and spend some time learning how to set up a bass without doing much damage. It would also lead to me buying some tools I should have anyway. Thanks for sharing your hard-earned skills.
Yet again you've made a good job out of a bad one. I like the the obvious fact you have a passion for this Dave. Some budding bassist is going to love this instrument. And although he/she will obtain even more expensive gear in years to come, will look back fondly on this thing. Merry Christmas to you and yours and a very happy new year.
I was surprised CZcams didn't try to get you for playing your own music in the background it was pretty good
Here in Europe we have Thomann with their "Harley Benton" branded guitars. They start at similar prices to the Glarry instruments, but are way better quality. I guess Thomann have enough financial clout to get decent quality from their Chinese manufacturers (I don't think they own their own factory unlike someone like Behringer).
Got a few HB's here.. for the money, they are great.
There is no doubt that the low end of guitars are better than ever. Kid's first guitars are not bad instruments at all, especially if you know how to work on them, like Dave.
Manufacturing is so machine and computer dependent, they might as well get it right and duplicate the results a million times.
I bought the same exact one this month. Its actually amazing. Strings were close. It didn't buzz like this video at all.
I well remember Fender guitars being just the same in the 70s, straight out of the box!
Some kid is going to open it on Xmas morning and yell.. "WTF Santa! Where are the other two strings?!! I can't get the girls to watch me with this!!" :)
Dave on the Glarry site it says the solid body instruments are usually basswood, which can be very light. The Burlywood bodies have a veneer over it.
Plywood tends to be dense and heavy because of all the glue in it. Like early Korean Squier bodies.
I do not know HOW they make the wood grain look like an early Pine or Ash body Fender, have a look.
m.glarrymusic.com/glarry-gtl-maple-fingerboard-electric-guitar-transparent-yellow-black-blue-sunset-p146.html
While there's definitely merit in the struggle, you gotta want the struggle to begin with. I appreciate the point you made on getting kids (or anyone, for that matter) started, Dave. You gotta give them something to aim for or there's no inspiration to keep you going. I've called First Act guitars Last Act for a while now because of that. Who would want to keep playing guitar if their first guitar was as bad as those are? Now I spend my days convincing parents to spend more than $25-50 on a guitar that'll give the highest chance of someone getting inspired.
Glarry is gonna use this for a training video for their production line!..but Dave will be speaking Chinese!🤣🤣🎎
My daughter got me a Glarry guitar for an early Xmas present . Once I did the usual setup stuff and filed a couple fret ends it’s not too bad . Will make a decent beater to play around the house . One thing for sure on these guitars , they have a fat neck .
I got that beat, I bought a Precision bass copy for $58 NEW on Amazon! Sure it needs adjusting, but not complaining.
Hey Dave
I seen Trogily with one of these and was considering getting one for the minimal use it would get just to add a deeper bass sound to my you tube vids. I am watching til the end and hoping. Hard to go wrong under a $100.
I am still interested in one.
Most guitars < 300 even 500 I have seen need some work... So Glarry needing some isnt a shock, but for $80 come on its pretty sweet IMO. I would have $hit bricks if dad brought this home.
This is when an $80 guitar, turns into a $200+ guitar, after all the work that has to be done to it.
Reminds me of my first department store bass (1982 ish). Fortunately I had enough sense to get a real instrument a couple years later. It's over in the corner.
Hey Dave another great video. I also bought this glarry bass same color. It did have issues out of the box that I had to correct. String height, the bow in the neck, and I copper foil the cavity to stop the awful hum or buzz your getting. Frets were not bad on mine. Guess someone took the time to file them down. After I straighten the neck by the way truss rod did work everything was fine and it sounds great. In all actuality I would do a gig with it. All in all it is perfect for my seven-year-old son
You mention how light it is. I just ordered a guitar kit from Solo Guitars and when it arrived I couldn't believe how light it was. But it's not plywood (which I think would be heavier) but basswood. Maybe that's what your Glarry is made from.
It's incredibly unlikely to be plywood. First, plywood is heavy, second, look at the curves. Then imagine cutting them from plywood. You'd have a heck of a lot of rework. Likely to be paulonia a "light, fine-grained, and warp-resistant wood" found in China.
Probably a paulownia body
To Glarry and Dave. Lots of respect. You both have balls. And at the end iof the day. Dave worked his magic. And The Glarry worked fine.
I agree with you Dave, a poorly made instrument will drive most kids away. I played my brother's guitars that were not set up and barely playable.They hurt to play. I just wanted to be in a band so bad that I played nothing higher than the 7th fret but kept going. The first guitar I played (actually an early '60's Jazz!) that was set up well hooked me forever. I've seen too many pieces of junk out there that kids have discarded in the trash because their parents didn't really give a shit enough to buy an actual musical instrument.
4 years ago this show.
I got a glarry pbass last year , September. Unboxed the frets were really nice and flush, the nut cut well and the strings flopping everywhere. Action a mile high 8mm at 17th. But the main complaint in your review was the razor frets...i think they listened to you Dave. Mine sounds great with flats and new pickups, in fact the original pups were fine, just cganged to branded ones.
Great show Dave ❤
Wonder where that bass is tonight.
It's easy to trash these instruments, but when I think about what garbage was available for 3X or 4X the price when I started playing, it's pretty amazing. I get your point about cheap instruments discouraging progress, but I would sure not buy a beginning player a $1000 bass, either. They're going to abuse it, knock it over, bump it into things, etc. There's a lot of ground between a Glarry and a US Fender, though.
And these cheap piece of shit entry guitars are far better than the mid-tier crap I had when I first started in 1995.
You should buy the best thing you can afford. If your kid doesn't like it, you've pissed away the entirety of what you paid for garbage, because you'll never sell it used. However, give them a MIM tier and it's easy to recover most of your investment, especially if you buy used. Don't just assume your kid will destroy their shit, teach them not to, and to value the things they have.
It depends on how old the kid is and how much interest they show. I think LTD's 200 tier is the best bang for your buck (great construction, really good upgrade platform when the time comes, etc) when those come at around $400. Definitely good for a older kid or one who's already into music (like, they already play a different instrument). The Glarry stuff is solid for elementary/middle school kids who don't know if they want to pursue a path in music. The MIM Fenders are great once you know they're going to stick with guitar/bass since they're in the "forever tier" range (as in, a MIM Fender can easily be a gigging guitarist's main axe straight out of the box), but a little steep if you're not sure if your kid is going to commit (assuming you don't play).
Glarry stuff is great if you're looking for something that's cheap and functional, but they're also great if you are interested in upgrades
Sign the guitar, “rock on, Santa”
'It might not be perfect, I'd rather it be a little bit high, as it's probably gonna be, sorta like most of my viewers. Alright, carry on.'
They might not be custom shop,or have value of one,but the popularity of them for being quality is going to make these first and second generations Glarrys collectable and worth a few bucks,then they'll cost just as much as any other entry bass
Way to go Santa, some kid will be Happy 👍🏼👊🏻😊
Watch the kid who gets this grows up to be some crazy bass prodigy. We'll hear a story in a few years about this amazing bass player talking about how he got a free bass for xMas one year. And he still has it. Still uses it in the studio. Glarry has made a signature model of it.
You have really impressed me with the heart you put into this one. You show the elements of making a crap guitar usable.
Your paintings and soft, soothing voice impressed me.
First of all, really nice work on the set-up, and Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to you and yours! I watch almost all of the guitar channels and they all have been sent a Glarry in the last year for review. The consensus is exactly what you said . . . with a good set-up ($50?), they are affordable, playable guitars. Perfect for a beginner, or a person with limited disposable income. Like you, the first guitar I had was an inexpensive Silvertone arch top with all of the same issues that you just addressed. But I wanted to play, so I bled, and tortured my fingertips and eventually moved on to better instruments and still play 55 years later. When I think of my first electric, a cheap Japanese guitar (I know, I know, now some of them are cool) the quality of the Glarry far surpasses anything built at that time. Kudos to Glarry for putting their own name on it, which seems to be more common these days with many of the Asian builders. Donating it was a nice gesture as well. Cheers!
I have to say, I understand the hell you give a raggedly built and not even cursory set up guitar. Having said that though, a lot of folks can't afford to buy a "real" instrument let alone one for a child who may or may not want to continue to play said instrument once they hold one. Yes, of course, it's a helluva lot easier to learn on a guitar when the intonation is right and it stays in tune and doesn't have action like a boiled egg slicer. There's a bunch of folks that can't afford to buy an instrument that's perfect from the start and if they were to get one couldn't afford to have it professionally set up. Those are usually the folks that are subscribing to channels like this. Leave the trolling to the comment section and "be good to one another". That's my $.02. Love the channel otherwise
While I respect this guys luthier skills, I find it somewhat disingenuous to think that every new piano student learns how to play chopsticks on a $100,000 concert grand piano. Perhaps advancement in skills and gear correlate?
I have 3 USA Fenders and a '79 USA Peavy T-40 amongst my basses. But Just for Shites and giggles I bought a Harley Benton (Thomann Music) Jazz bass. Shipped from Germany for like $170, or less, US. Thing is heavy as hell but it's a great player. So based on that experience I bought a Harley Benton 2x12 Guitar cab with Celsetion speakers for less than what it would cost to purchase the Celestion Vintage speakers alone. And again it's a great cab. Great sound well built. So I just got my HB MM bass. today. Again out of the box it needs a few basic setup tweeks but damn if I can find anything poorly done for under $250 US.
Don't get your amps from them. Prices are great but when you discover that it comes with an E.U. standard power supply and you have to spend $$ for US / Cannuckistan standard your near what you pay over here.
I thought about getting a HB guitar too..I was going to buy a gold top LP style guitar with P90s in it..(well not actual p90s but ya know)..I heard a vid of one and honestly it sounded pretty good and looked okay and for like 180 USD hard to go wrong really....I looked at some of the basses too but am wary of the pickups..
@@murph7489 So far I've got nothing but good things to say about the Roswell pickups.both the passive J's and the active MM's seem plenty robust sounding. I will admit that It's been a long, LONG time since I've had a bass with active pups so I'm still just feeling my way around with them. But hey, even if I wanted to get rid of them the bass is so nicely made and affordable that I wouldn't hesitate to plunk some money on an upgrade.
Dave: "...not that bad..." Glarry: *CA-ching!
They send out 30 of them to youtubers, 20 to 25 say "ok for 80 bucks", and Glarry sells a whole bunch as a result. Think about it, they get a 15 minute yt vid for the cost of shipping to the tuber and $25 to have it made for them.
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This guy gives shredding a guitar a whole new meaning lol 😂 He really shreds a guitar 🎸
One of your best videos!
Love your stuff Dave. Very funny. Always an adventure!!!
This was a great idea on Glarry's part as Dave gives his honest opinion and shows what needs to be addressed at the factory. The downside is if it's not addressed at the factory going forward, you pay 80 + setup(75-100), now you're in the lower end Ibanez or Squire range with a better quality instrument. Just a thought. Rock on Dave!
All of these kit quality guitars are about the same, and it's a win if you can turn one into a good guitar to play after a few hours of work (the qualifier is whether or not you have to buy anything. On the guitar side, tuners are a must, but you can usually get away without having to buy anything else).
My experience with them is they are awfully good for the money (costs me $400 in materials to make a legitimate guitar vs. the bass/paulownia/agathis mystery wood guitars) if you have the ability to build from scratch. In a 15th of the time it takes to build a guitar, you can make one of these straight (change the tuners) and polish the frets and address any wiring boogers. Test number two is what the setup looks like in a year. The throw away kits I've cleaned up for my kids to beat around do experience a bit of dive on the neck due to the softness of the bodies.
But...it's $80 (plus tuners). $80 (plus tuners)!!! i spend that for a body blank. Sometimes twice that.
(don't forget to order better tuners if you're not Dave and you're reading this. fun's over if you start to play the guitars and can't get through part of a song).