Did I Just Get Scammed Out Of $300,000??
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This is exactly why this guy is going out of business. He knows his helicopters but doesn't know how to deal with people which is why all of his things have sat in his warehouse. Dave you have so much patience.
This guys on meth
Easy to judge from a sofa
I know crazy…and from my sofa…crazy!
@@tinytattoomike7943 how so? you're sat here judging an entire life based off of around 60 minutes of footage, we're never going to know the entirety of the situation around whatever happened here. And I'm wrong for not wanting to instantly jump the gun? You people live for drama and it's sickening.
lol I’m judging by what I’m hearing….and hes telling them to calm down and he’s the one worked up. Dave has a very successful business and owns some crazy stuff. He’s been cleared by some important people, I’m sure, to have some of those big things he’s got now….I’m just saying Dave is being super nice and just trying to be crystal clear and this dude is being back and forth and that’s shady
I hugely respect how straight up and patient Dave is.
Totally... hinky deal, anyway.
the blue hat guy is literally tweaking at 5min. Also can't find keys, don't know what he has. Argues over tools... He seems like a crack head that stole some keys from his friends workplace. Also smoking all the time.
That dude is sketch af
Way more patient than me. I would have walked away. Good on Dave.
Dave is a way better man than me the way that dude wanted to start cussing and get aggressive out of nowhere fuck that
You didn’t lose $10,000, you saved $240,000. The best thing you ever did was walk away from that deal. I have been in aviation my entire life, and I can tell you that that deal smelled from the beginning. You’re a hero for walking away.
Spoiler alert
Lol no, he definitely lost $10,000...
Well said
@@G_F1 pocket change when you're in the helicopter business.
You will always lose some deposits, that always comes with big undertakings.
I would of walked away the minute the guy started talking down to you about his feelings and concerns. He's a scammer... what patience Dave... admirable. You didn't loose anything, will make it all back in a heart beat for what you do everyday.
This guy went from being on a different level to just being on something.
Looked to me like he woz wizzzzzin his tits off !
Then he wanted Dave to influence his son in someway. Definitely needing stimulants to keep going for days without sleep and food. Meth?
That 10g’s went straight to the yay yo.
Crystal Meth !
That's skinny Pete from breaking bad
More I listen the more I would just walk away. This guy is in this situation for a reason
@redfox435cat yes .. but imagine you made the deal.. maybe you would be bent over and left in the cold. Plus, there are always deals waiting to be closed.
Wonder if he owes money to the cartel
word U N that's all foreign owned.
@@Ben-ph7pv Thinking that too. Seems he has an affinity for the coka. Very expensive habit. Probably made some special friends when on his adventures of buying, selling and restoring these copters all over the world.
@@Ben-ph7pv his face is now known. 😵💫🤣
Dang bro, you are a great communicator. You were trying so hard to help that guy figure out his emotions during all that and he was just way out there.
That's true, you were continually trying to frame and reframe the conversation's path constructively. I'm not at all sure I could have done as well.
Thank you for sharing this. Even though it was a bit of drama at least you were able to get it on video to share in an honest platform with others. This isn’t an isolated event many deals can sour in similar ways. People can get an emotional attachment so strong to material possessions they have a hard time separating them self from them. On top of that it came across like this seller/donor was involved in something a bit shady on the backside.
This is good for others to see how you stayed calm and levelheaded throughout the negotiations. That’s what it takes to be a professional and ultimately successful in the long run. You gotta spend money to make money and you always end up in some shape or form losing a bit along the way. Thanks and enjoying watching a few of your videos
Dave you were so professional and respectful. Amazing how you kept your cool. You apologized when you didn’t have to multiple times trying to defuse the situation with a freaking tweaker. Awesome bro.
The big confercation in the beginning was respectful and I don't have the info what happened prior, but the confercation was not onder controle and let him rent about his personal problems. I think everything would do the same though, if there smart, it's strange what's happening there, or what ever is happening there.
dudes such a tweaker
🤣 🤣
I could tell within minutes dude is on meth
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed the guy was on something, that whole situation was sketch. I mean, how does a tweaker like that have a warehouse full of helo's and parts?
Crazy how calm you were with this conversation, dude kept contradicting himself 🤯
Roller coaster… Dang
I don’t understand this guy he’s angry
I would have snapped!!!! So glad he trusted his gut!!! I bet dude doesn't even have rights to sell any of this stuff!!!
I'd have lost it and walked away koodos
Dude seemed like a weirdo from the beginning. And he turned out to be some weirdo. Always trust ur gut.
you handled that situation so well. I don't think I could be so cool and collected when that guy started going on and on about rubbish and ended up not making sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on that blue sky. glad you pulled out of that deal in the end
I tip my hat to Dave because you’re such a patient man and you handled that with pure professionalism even though it seemed like that guy wanted to have some kind of confrontation and he could be just emotionally drained but he just seemed so determined to have a disagreement or argument with you ! Again my hats off to you man because you probably made the best decision by just exiting the deal !
I can barely stand to listen to this guy but Dave's patience is so impressive I can't stop watching.
Same!!
god i wouldnt be able to stand this dude lol but dang you srsly have to give credit to Dave
He ain't there for Credit or Good Vibes or to hear this nutt azz dude out. Dave's there to make $$$$. If it takes an extra hour then so be it.
Same vibes. Art interrupting, fast talking, being emotionally charged, diverting the focus, and generally using passive/aggressive behavior in an apparent attempt to extract money from HeavyD was no fun to listen to. Watching the younger adults chilling in background was such a contrast to the frenetic negotiations.
@jeremiahpetersen6626 exactly feel exact same. This guy is soooo jacked up and remember he’s been up for four days I think that’s what he said in part 1 sooooo let’s see up for 4 days all jacked up yea you always get one of these guys to start getting ballsy especially a rich kid brought up the hippie way and jacked yea I’d say that deal is raw…….or well worth it in the long run
You would have been a great cop Heavy D. That guy was on drugs, angry, and definitely capable of getting violent. You talked him down and dealt with him in a respectful manner. Kudos, from a 20 year cop.
Man I second that. I give him a lot of credit for handling this so well. Sad. It’s pretty obvious the guys on something and it’s likely that very thing that got him in this position to begin with
And the sleep deprivation + drugs makes a man do some crazy shit, this could have ended very badly
Yeah, he could definitely have been lightly tweaking. Just the fact that he was in Phoenix, AZ, ups that chance to a probability.
@@benmiller5125 and money does more than both combined, people have been killed for less than 300k. Either way dude was clearly on drugs, and that is likely a key factor in why he has to get out of that warehouse and his life is falling apart. News flash, most people and that has literally NOTHING to do with them getting violent, neither does lack of sleep. Get your scapegoats out of here.
Yep that was the impression that I had of him too, he was just so erratic and the way he was speaking made me think he was either unstable or on something or both.
This was a excellent video ! Stressful obviously but you did such a good job keeping your cool , clearly communicating and listening well ! Watching you process this and coming to good conclusions is a different kind of valuable adventure ! Thank you 😊👍 you set a great example !
with all your success, I cannot get over how well you even execute a fail lol seriously!!! . Your patients and the way you handled things in this situation was more than what most would do. You let him speak, you were calm and tried to de-escalate and you were very clear and to the point, you even gave recognition by noting that it was 'his life's work' and tried to understand why he was so completely out of his damn mind. This truly shows another side to the man you are. The entire crew followed when you left, I was so impressed no one chimed in or said a WORD it just shows how much respect and trust your friends have for you. I think the fact he had an armed security guard watching you was evidence to show that he knew he was trying to pull something shady from the beginning ( other than his tweaker like behavior). I know your over it now but, I admire the person you are, everyone should take notes from you.
Dude all over the place. Speedballs catching up with him.
Yep. That's meth'ed up.
Exactly what I thought. Dude is methed up
100%
Lotta meth in AZ
cool i wasnt the only one that notice that he looked a lil off
That guy said so much without saying anything at all. Props to Dave for being chill in this situation. The other guy seemed intimidated or off his rocker or something.
Anytime Dave said *anything* he would needlessly get defensive. He took everything as a personal attack. Huge red flag.
the owner dude is high as fuck, he sounds exactly like a every tweaker i have ever dealt with in phoenix
Exactly!
Dave doesnt need this.... if the guy doesnt stop bitchin...then tell him hav a good day... im outta here
This looks like substance abuse to me.
Props to Dave for keeping his cool. I would’ve lost it when that maniac starting cussing me out.
And talked about snapping necks
This was great. I hope you film more of the nuts and bolts of deals in future. It's a valuable lesson for all of us. You're a machine.
This is a textbook example of how to de-escalate people down who are emotionally wound up. Dave is so patient and listens and does not interrupt. What a way to listen to your gut and not get controlled by emotion. Clearly Dave wanted all those parts, but didn't let it get the best him. Well handled.
Dave kept his cool, which is practically always correct. However, de-escalating isn't always the right call. The Scam-artist will often deliberately give you an easy path out to de-escalate a situation, but that path is the path where you get scammed.
Mr Scam was INTENTIONALLY escalating. The whole point of him injecting tension was to get Dave to back off from his demand to have an EXACT inventory. It's not just the keeping his calm, but rather that Dave wouldn't back off the demands around having a precise inventory, locked doors, etc around what he was buying. Afterall, even I could see the warehouse looked completely different from the earlier video, and I was only half-watching the video on the side as I worked on a project.
Repent to Jesus Christ “Those who sow with tears will reap with songs of joy.”
Psalms 126:5 NIV
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Gotta be on drugs.
Yeah, but Art did nothing BUT interrupt. I like how Dave kept on talking over him when he would interrupt. lol
@@fkrioters1000 I agree yeah the warehouse looked more empty I also was only half watching the last video
That guy is a walking red flag 🚩 huge respect to Dave for the way he handled the whole situation
Come on, you can't be that stupid! You honestly think that this crap was real and not scripted? Hahahaha.....
He was pulling Heavy Ds leg the whole time.
The guy was selling aircraft parts inventory. But he doesn't own all the inventory.
Cool, calm, and collected. Dave, 👊🏼 you handled this situation perfectly, everyone has said how they would have lost it sooner, I wouldn’t, I like to stay calm while I work out how to make sure I come out on top of the deal! This attitude is exactly why you are where you are! Well done mate!
I respect so much that he showed himself taking a loss! So many people new to business don't understand that some(most) times you take losses as you learn along the way
I would have walked away the minute that guy started ranting about "this a donation, not a deal" like he was doing you a favor. You have way more patience and diplomacy than I do, brother.
That was so bizarre. Then there was the "snapping necks" comment.
@@moshunit96 ...and the way he leaned forward like he was ready to start punching someone really hard, not doing business with wild animals like that.
He's on meth
Exactly. That, right there, was Art's tell, that said loud and clear, "I AM IMPOSSIBLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH!"
I think he is in legal trouble so trying to make sure it was a “donation” will help him skate that. Makes sense with needing to transfer money oversees.
Stay away from drugs kids!
But nicely handled Dave, to keep your composure and treat him with such respect speaks volumes about your character. Cheers from New Zealand!
Ahhhh, another kiwi here. Wonder how many of us from NZ watch Heavy D
@@prxfade1410 another kiwi from south here
Add one more Kiwi to the list! Long time Diesel Brothers viewer, now enjoying Heavy D youtube.
Okay you Kiwis.... just to let you know, there's other people in the world, I'm from Wisconsin in the United States. Cheers from Wisconsin.
Kiwi from the North here.😎
When I watch these videos of all the successes and good you're putting out into the ethos you have a strong amount of good karma built up. Keep trucking along. Sure this will still sting a bit when you have those moments of brief reflections that pop in and out but ultimately these clowns are caught on camera on a very successful CZcams channel and their negative karma will come back to bite them in the azz. Love ya brother keep up the good work!
Absolutely fascinating watching, dude was coked of his head. You handled him like a champ. I probably would have walked a little sooner but I guess the Dolphin was on your mind. Great stuff , keep it up 👍👍
Australia
Dave, I am so happy for you that you ran for the exit. If a guy has hundreds of thousands of dollars in valuable parts but still can't come up with $25K in rent, then there's more to this story already. And when Art mentioned that he hadn't slept for two (or three?) nights, it does suggest some kind of manic episode. Dodged that bullet.
Maybe literally xD
Sounds like he is a crackhead
Was the first red flag of this whole situation.
The dude may be lying about no sleep. It's a typical scam-artist or hustle tactic, that you try to get the other side to feel pitty for you in any way possible.
Crack habbit. P habbit.
100% addict behavior! Sorry you went through that Dave but man you have the patience of a Saint and as soon as it got sketchy you pulled your guys out of there! Your as straight up as they come and although you lost money im glad it wasn't as bad as it could've been! Keep doing your thing and ill be here supporting you guys through the channel like all your other fans!💪💪💪
He did say he was working day, and night!
@@davidregan9872 ... And how do you think he's been doing that?
@@TheParronators people are able to do that, i do it too much for my own health but being under tremendous stress and a deadline can motivate someone to do strange stuff. Sleep deprivation, caffeine, etc are enough to mimic a very similar effect. I know the guy’s a nut but that doesn’t necessarily mean drug use.
@@TheParronators cocaine 😂
Where you think that $10k deposit went he gave the dude😂
Proud of you and the team. Thank u for sharing this all with us
Greatly appreciate the rawness of these videos. We see the amazing highs, the ugly lows, and everything in between. Through it all, Dave, you're constantly a rock standing tall, firm, and fair. You have such poise and patience and that's part of what makes you such a great leader. That's part of why you attract and keep the incredible and honest crew you have around you. I greatly appreciate you allowing as much of this video as you did to make it to CZcams. At the end of the day you have the final say on what does and doesn't make it to public, and I appreciated seeing the raw truth of how sketchy this deal was going to be. This video popped up shortly after ai saw you flying the Blue Dolphin helicopter home after Joe's team worked on it, so I get the benefit of seeing that it all worked out for you in the end and I'm quite happy for you! Fly high HeavyD!
this man turned 180 degrees. from being nice and telling nice stories to being suspicious and wanting to make a weird deal. dave. you acted great on this situation, always listen to your gut.
@@roryisaaks9448 I thought he seemed a little odd but cool. its wild to see him flip like this
if it seems to good to be true , it might be .
Drugs
Guy went from throwing everything out to receiving almost 300k. What happen in this guys mind was he immediately went into justifying what was worth that money instead gathering up his personal shit and walking away. Plain and simple, greed jumped into the mix.
got to remember he caught out when he overheard things were different. reason been he removed item over two days and dave and the team had video images
After the landlord evicts them legally in court and changes the locks in a few days, negotiate with him for what's left and get a even better deal. Landlord might give it to you for free just to clear out his warehouse. Good luck bro
If only! My gut tells me that what isn't at the end of it's "Service Life", many parts have a limit to how many hours they can operate, Art doesn't own. Also, many aircraft parts are single use, take it off and you can't reuse it. I'd bet that some, if not all of the airframes have liens on them.
Lol that's not how this shit works. You can't evict someone and keep their shit 🤣
@@ThatGuyMatain many states, yes
@@EDDSkitz Not commercial property no.
@@ThatGuyMata it can work like that actually with commercial leases. I’ve seen it happen, I have a commercial lease right now that came with everything the business before left behind. They were behind 80k on rent and forfeited all of the businesses possessions when the locks were changed on them. It was written into the lease that the landlord would take control of any items left on the premise after defaulting for so long.
I just found you on You Tube and watched you purchase a panel truck full of crap; a truck load of conveyor systems and games and a concrete mixer reworked. You are a pretty smart cookie and should always depend on your intuition......that dude was obviously hyped up on something other than lack of sleep and his personality changed 180° ! Your integrity is worth much more than 10 grand!
Walking away when you know it’s bad is the only way to find what’s good. Well done. You taught everyone here a valuable lesson and you’re going to be rewarded for it.
This was an intense moment. The guy was tweaking! He was all over the place Dave. You kept your calm demeanor. But you followed your gut feelings. The Spider senses was tingling!! So good call, don’t need the added stress. Great video! 🤙😎
I agree he’s a tweaker !!!
The guy even admitted it when he said "I haven't slept in 3 days."
12:19
that dude was on some shit. very sus from the beginning
he's high as shit!
AGREED that guy was zooming... it was clear as day that he was on some zoom zoom... his thoughts were all over the place probably been up for a week straight
“The forklift goes to my friend. He fell from the sky.” “didn’t know that on fri” “you can have the forklift” “what?” “I’ll buy him a new one” Lol! How insane did this guy get so quickly. Something’s a hell of a drug.
I’ve bought from some real characters. This guy is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Yeah when he started saying stuff like that i really realised he could turn up to an empty building if he bought it
His kids just standing there being embarrassed 😭😭😭
He’s on drugs hasn’t slept in 3 days 😂😂
Meth most likely
Sorry you had to deal with someone like that. Karma will catch up to them, glad you went with the gut feeling. Keep up the hard work.
Wow! Dave, I must commend you on your patience during that whole heated for no reason conversation...much respect!
You did the right move Dave! Walking away from this deal was the right thing to do. The owner was being sketchy AF. The only emotions that were going on with him was that he knew he was close to getting caught stealing stuff from the deal. Without a doubt, he spent the last few days removing stuff from the warehouse from under your nose. Its a hard lesson learned, but you still came out on top while keeping your head and composure. You are a much better man than me! Huge respect!!
Owner seems like a functional addict is all.
Lots of speed .
I was about to say the same thing...walk away...the guy is seriously sketchy!
@@gringottfenn316 -- Yup -- hiding behind wanting to do right by his son -- what a toxic load of BS -- while his son (and presumably the son's wife or GF) stand silently by and watch the slow-motion train wreck. :(
I wouldn’t call a ten-grand loss ‘coming out on top’, lol 🍻
That guy's energy completely changed between the first and second meetings from friendly to adversarially sketchy! This is a perfect lesson on how to trust your gut instincts and know exactly when to cut bait!
Dave, you should throw some extra appreciation toward your friend Hans, he was leary from the beginning and definitely has your best interest at heart! That's a quality friend!
I'm not saying you're wrong, because you're right in this instance... but when is Hans ever "Mr. Positivity"? LOL But please don't take my words as a put-down because I love Hans, his cynical and pessimistic attitude in life is very similar to mine... if anyone is Mr. Positivity (besides the two Daves) it would be Alan the Wizard. 🙂 Love the entire crew, such a fascinating mix of personalities, but it obviously works cause the boys always get the job done!
This!!!
@Andrew Paolucci I was thinking this too.
In the first ep I thought he seemed off the way he was telling his storys
Run.
Bro i gotta hand it to you seriously you not only just earned my respect but in fact inspired me to be this calm and collected while dealing with nut cases like that in life. You have some patience on you buddy because if that was me it would have gone south within few minutes.
So much respect for you Dave. You were wise to walk away.
Dave’s patience is off the charts. I don’t think I could have been that calm.
and savvy enough to capitalize on the potential entertainment value.
Oh man the second that twig said he’d start snapping necks I would’ve snapped his lmao. Guy was an absolute clown
Good call Dave. Losing $10k is probably not going to hurt you, where losing $300k is always an impact. You’ll probably end up with this stuff anyway, once the landlord forecloses and sells it all to you for $100k. Which is better since the courts will have removed any leans on the stuff.
Liens
lol. lien...
I don’t know if I’ve ever been more relieved for anyone as I was for you when you walked.
Unbelievable how you dealt with that Dave. Hats off to you cool calm and collected. You saved a lot of money think of it that way
People don't understand the difference between trust and accountability.
Dave: "I want to be able to account for everything in the deal."
Owner: "YoU DoN't TRuST mE!"
Trust is earned. I don't want a stranger to trust me. Nor do I trust the stranger. It's not an insult, it's just reality. But if we can trade X or Y, and are both happy with it, that's cool. I'll even happily sign a contract, assuming the contract matches the agreement.
exactly. I'm sure the taxes on that deal were going to be enormous and you need to be able to accurately inventory everything. Especially with aircraft parts that are going to be flying over my head literally.
Is "owner" the correct term?
@@gezzad_4567 Everyone calls Mr Scammer "Art" so I think that's his name. Owner is more questionable, although he does seem to possess a bunch of heli parts.
What is he doing to earn the trust coz he appears to be on the edge as if he is hiding something here so I wouldn't buy it
Your ability to deal with this stressful situation and remain calm and focused is amazing. Hats off to you.
A lion doesn't lose sleep over opinions of sheep, especially a sheep who thinks it's a dog. Seems like a dude who's salty about losing money on a side hustle because he took care of the place and expects a big payout for his time running the place while the owner was wherever. I mean I could see him being screwed over.
I was truly excited for you in the first video, but something stunk about this from the beginning. Glad you walked away. I think anyone who sees this will be more aware of the scams that are out there.
When you have that gut feeling its best to go with it. How could he not grasp the concept of marking what you could or could not take, you couldn't put it in any simpler words. He couldn't see any logic at all, no wonder he's left with everything, that man had no clue how to make a deal. Sorry that you lost some money and a deal that you were so excited about. Better to have walked away than being scammed. Another opportunity will eventually come your way, I'm sure of it. You all Take care and be safe, much love and respect 🙂🇨🇮
This dude is absolutely cracked 😳 the convo over the forklift was when I realized how insane he is. And it just goes on and on and on from there.. you guys were so patient I don't know how you managed to stay composed. I would have lost it 🤬
Yeah I guarantee if D would have sent that money overseas he would have got a not so friendly knock at the door from the feds. I also bet you that as soon as he got that $10k in cash he went right to the meth dealer and thats why he had such a big personality shift the 2nd day.
Yup. He doubled back on himself about that forklift three times. Why he's fixated on a forklift, makes no sense.
@@MrHenryPope Maybe Art fabricated a story bc he found a separate buyer for the forklift and was trying to maximize his profits?
His story about someone falling out of helicopter is suss.
Dealing w someone on meth is like talking to a wall! Lol!
@@nocakeforsusan8701 maybe 'Art' is a broken person that is irrational.
He has several hours remaining to remove everything or be evicted. If he had some other buyer as you theorize, then _state that_ and move on. Which is not what was stated nor occured. Because he's mentally unwell and irrational.
Never mind that cash in hand beats another man's promissary note.
Legend has it Art is still moving his stuff back and forth while chain smoking with no sleep.
😂
Chain smoking the meth pipe 😂
Art has a stash of Heisenberg Blue...
Yup. You know where that 10k went.. up in smoke
@@perrybeede9498 would explain his freakish temperament after the weekend: "I haven't slept in 7 days..."
Yeah there was something off about him. I thought that from the first video and then after watching this one I definitely think there something going on with him. As others have said there is a reason he's in this situation. He just simply couldn't figure out why you wanted a clear cut picture of what goes and what stays. That's understandable given there is SO MUCH stuff there. You handled it well. It's a shame you lost your $10k. He should have given you back the money but he's obviously hard up about something. If he was this all nice guy who's trying to help people he would have offered your deposit back. Glad to see you walked out of this situation. The whole offshore thing would have been the last straw for me too.
I know you didn't mean to show a drama video, but I'm glad you did. I have watched your videos show all good deals, it's nice to see how you handle bad deals too. It gives your audience a full 360 degree view of what you do. I'm glad I watched this video. I'm sorry it didn't work out, but not everything does and showing a video like this shows how real you are. Big fan brother, I hope my view helps recoup some of the money.
as a recovering addict of 14 years now, this guy gives me huge joneser/drug addict vibes unfortunately. I wish this man and his son all the best. Great job Dave for one, staying calm and listening, and 2, listening to your gut.
...also: Maybe that 'security guard' was a sheriff or bailiff (or w.e. you guys use in the usa for forced evictions), hired by the landlord to evict and lock the place the second you guys left to keep all the valuables inside to recover lost rent, sheriff fee's, etc. ..or a member of that 'private contracting' company come to collect an expected payment... in force... o.O .. ya bud, getting out was a good idea.
Not finished with vid yet but yeah he was talking about being up last 3days working. I believe he's probably geeking out.
Good job staying clean
@@matthumphrey4915 incredible. You definitely could be right about that. As soon as Dave called the landlord and said it was no deal. He may have then called and said yup. Close it up boys. Landlord may have been holding them off to see if Dave could strike a deal.
So sad. I feel bad for the kid or kids. Idk who that young girl was but she is in the wrong place. Her and the son “look” innocent. And in reality they are. Their just being programmed completely wrong.
@@bigjim8088 yea I thought to myself, I bet you have after seeing how he acting. And even worse from first video. He got that 10k and was running for the hills. I think meth if I had to guess. Nowadays could be god knows but that’s what I think.
That guy selling his parts is batshit crazy. Props to Heavy D for calmly and patiently dealing with this psycho as well as he did.
I'm a criminal defense attorney, and I deal with people like this all the time. Seems to be a combination of drug abuse and mental health issues. I would have walked away from this in the first 3 minutes, but Dave hung in there to give some great content. Amazing patience.
That guy is the type of person that you meet at a gas station that stands outside with a cup in his hand, staring at people looking for arguments. Thanks Dave for being such a strong and patient individual because there is very little grown men that have taken that semi arrogant and childish man’s constant shadow threats.
Joe Biden is an enemy to the success of mankind as we know it. A grave danger to society. A horrifically evil man. A terrorist, terorrising our country. You can only get a job with him if you chop your balls off. not a joke. Terorrism. Joe Biden is the largest financer of Islamic terror groups. An actual terrorist. Joe Biden is the real merchant of death
EXACTLY. He's the exact same personality as many "gas station hustlers" I've encountered. the people who approach you in a parking-lot, who are having a rough-time and have an entire story to tell.
Yeah he was disagreeing with what he said on video last Fri..
Dave, just want to thank you for showing us this, you could have easily just scrapped all this footage, but showing us that not every venture is successful, is good to see. Life isn't always perfect, and even you can have an L once in awhile.
L is now is the federal endorsement on all driver license for motorcycle endorsement for every state
Wow what a turnaround, great gut instincts though and definitely the right decision in the end, a 10k loss but 280k saved. Love this channel, going be up all night now catching up on the rest of the content 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It's a hard lesson to learn by, but you came out with a little loss and not a massive loss.
You trusted yourself which is very good, if something is to good to be true then it is not worth it my friend.
Keep doing what you are good at and don't get to greedy and please don't take offence but I am just being honest with you.
I have a hell of a lot of respect for you and I love your videos, lesson learnt. 26:11
This dude is flying higher than any helicopter has ever gone…
I bet he is at home reading this ans swearing at us lol
@@organiccold His “personal avionics” are all out of wack for sure.
Cocaine is a helluva drug
Yep straight up coke bird
Meth
Damn Dave I gotta give you props. For staying calm during the conversation. I would’ve blew up at the guy and told him the deal was off.
I'da gone thru his pockets
Found my 10g's
yeap i would have walked a lot earlier calling him names
Blowing up at someone does not achieve anything . Staying calm , assessing the situation , being aware of what is going on around you to make decisions for the best outcome is way more important .
@@brianmclean3458 you trying to get rowdy on someone. 😂
Easy to stay calm when you know the guys can't do a thing to you. Dave would snap that string bean in half.
Way more patient than I would have been, I’m glad you walked away
My goodness Dave. You have incredible patience.
Honestly I'm surprised the guy let you film him. This is obviously going to go viral in the heli business
I suppose he was desperate
Exactly that's why. My gut feeling is that he did make a deal.
yo man i thought the same!
To be honest I think if you're dealing with this guy your should be recording it because things seem to go south with him a lot. Getting evicted early is suspicious.
@@Terrestrial01 interesting!
This dude completely created this "stressful situation", man he isn't right in the head, he is all over the place. God bless you for your patience with this guy. Tough to watch
Life in the fast lane...
Surely make you lose your mind.
@@TexasTimelapse 🤟
I mean look at the place it’s a nightmare just sitting on parts
Totally agree with you
Defiantly comes of as mentally unstable.
So, I had just stumbled on Part 1 today and watched this. All I can say is smart move! Walking away is the ONLY thing that made any sense on this "deal". It would be interesting to see a follow up on that guy's story, unless you've already posted it and I've missed it.
Seriously dude. If it sounds to good to be true your gonna get ripped off! Love your heart and spirit
The patience you had for this guy was incredible. It’s also amazing that you just lay it all out there for us to see. Even after walking away to have private conversations you can already piece together how this whole thing went down. I have a feeling this guy owes people A LOT of money. He’s literally going insane.
The prospect of a lucrative money-making deal can "buy" a LOT of patience. It's also how a LOT of scams work. You start out with a deal that anyone would be an idiot to pass up on, and because the deal is so good, you can start demanding their time, resources, down-payments, etc. You get them so INVESTED in the sale, that even as the deal gets worse, and worse, and worse, and worse ..... "If I pull out now, that's $10k down the drain, what's another $2k?" Classic sunk-cost fallacy.
After the shit that already went down by the time they walked away, and how hazy the conversation got, at that point I wouldn't want anything private, undocumented, etc. The point is you're trying to solidify the deal, not give him more opportunities to change his mind, or alter the deal.
Afte thinking about this situation for a day, and sleeping on it overnight, the $10k the guy got was a straight up SCAM. Complete SCAM. The guy's intent was always to take the $10k and run, but maybe also take another $290k and run with that as well. Whether he sabotaged the deal, or got $290k and left D with an empty warehouse of junk, either worked out for him.
I think he owes money and the guy sat outside was probably working for whoever he owes it to. Ether way it was a nightmare that was only going to get worse.
@@fkrioters1000My exact thoughts..
Yes. I also was thinking he is financially strained causing a mental breakdown. He also realizes he is going to lose even more with this deal. Dave shows great restraint and patience.
I believe a drug problem is causing a collapse of a business and financial ruin.
Seems like he's trying to donate it so he dosnt have to pay taxes
Actually this turned out priceless. You taught many people how to handle a weird situation. You plastered this guy across the internet in an inadvertent way that will warn others of his shady business practices. You saved thousands of dollars of money from being funneled to a possible militia organization. AND you safely walked away. We just saw a minor bit of why you have succeeded in business.
Spot on. I suspect he just wanted the "donation" money in someone else's name so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on it. On the flip side, it could have been used for running guns or drugs or who knows what else. Either way, not something Dave wants to be involved in.
@@wildflower1397 yeah, why did he have that many troop seats for them? Why did all the airframes he trucked out of Mexico need to be washed so thoroughly? I don’t think the usual clientele were asking for logbooks and certificates… this is cartel/paramilitary chop shop stuff.
@wildflower1397 gun running, like how would that happen over seas. Oh wait did that seller seem Russian? So scary to see what stunt Biden just pulled with the arms dealer and how easy it could be for him to get back in business again! And your right, this guy just screamed shady in mind right off the rip. I would have walked away as soon as he opened his mouth.
Man was either very emotionally attached, or involved in some sketchy deals you don't want to be associated with. Good job keeping a level headed.
Smart move bro. I'm sure that was tough. Not just from the 10k standpoint. But you had to have no doubt grown some kind of an emotional bond with the deal, short or not. Probly nine voices in yer head saying "make the deal" and just one saying trust yer gut! Anyway. RESPECT BRO!
Total respect Dave and team. You handled a very tense, irrational and agitated person with a calm voice and body language. Excellent example of how to de-escelate a situation.
Even with editing they behaved like vultures, i dont know what did they expect...this was not a fixxerupper condo to flip and benefit 100times
*.. THIS WAS ONLY THE ..."COCAINE" ... TALKING ..*
bro the guy was so confusing to, all over the place
Bale, Dave ! This guy is bogus!
yeah, dude was sketchy and trying to hide the deal, obviously he has some major tax issues going and it looks to me like he got really paranoid cuz he kept trying to say it's not a deal it's not a deal it's like a donation and with cameras rolling and all that kind of stuff dude finally just flipped out
My mom was watching and saying, "No, Dave, noooo." 😂 She's good at judging the body language of dodgy people and detests fraudsters.
The title, thumbnail, and overall ambiance of the video pretty much gave it all away. I think your mom is just good at deceiving YOU. 😂
Come to Los Angeles. There are millions of them and their children...
Yeah he is clearly an “artist” and or in need of help… been in banking for 30 years… not a real business man at all!
Body language? Is she deaf? His actions & words are pretty clear that he's not a stable person. Like his finances.
Trust your gut!
Always!!
Thanks for sharing, the dude seemed sketchy, you did the right thing.
10 grand will come back to you ten fold.
Cheers!
Weird dude Huge respect to Dave for being so patient
For sure lol I would not have been able to deal with that lmao
Probably wasn't weird before having s substance abuse problem... Just my guess 🤔 I do feel bad for that guy's son? I think?though, he's the one that has to deal with that 24/7, and he seemed quiet and in a bad situation... Best of luck to that young man...
He’s tactical as fuck don’t be fooled. Using the son in negotiating was a psych manipulation technique.
@@mxconnection413 🤣 so tactically advanced he knew to purposefully look insane, like a terrible role model, make this deal fail completely, all in the act of comedy confusing future negotiations with any other potential buyers... 4D tactics! 😉😆
Love as soon as Dave walked out his crew walked with him without having to question why right away. Huge sign of respect/ loyalty towards Dave
They probably followed cause he's the driver and has the keys to the ride
100% obvious he was done and was dipping out.
They understood the assignment.
Also known as burying your head in the sand, being unable to make your own decisions.
Lmfao what else would they do? It's his gig and they're just tagging along.
@@francisishere9871 lol
Dude was a hype., all while Dave behaving with total patience and restraint. Im jealous of how much control he has over his temper. I wish I could have that same control over my emotions. Good on you Dave. Mighty white of you. Especially with the loss of the cash deposit in the back of your mind the whole time he was ranting like a lunatic
The “Gut” feelings and “Red flag” moments! Takes a few years under the belt to become receptive to! Glad you showed good sense! I felt it from the first video! Keeping your cool was the way to go! Walking away , the better part of valor! As for walking away from $10,000.00 bucks ???? ………
Dude is tweeked. Run, don’t walk.
When in the last video that guy was saying he'd been up for 6 days straight my immediate thought was what was the dude on to be up that long. He showed way too much energy to have been awake that long without being on some serious uppers.
@@goaway3717 Dave gave him 10k on Fri and the dude said he was there over the weekend going through stuff not to mention he looks like he bought coke over that weekend lol
That dude seemed uber shady. He’s definitely the abrasive, excessively confrontational type… the kind of guy that wants to argue with you even if you’re agreeing with him. I knew something wasn’t right soon as I heard the guy was behind on the rent.. and then he proceeds to boast endlessly about all his ultra rare like-new highly sought after inventory worth countless hundreds of thousands of dollars. Doesn’t quite add up.
Dave I can’t even begin to express how much respect I have for you bro. As a retired Deputy Sheriff I have in the past sometimes felt that the whole world was nothing but liars and thieves. That men of honor is just a thing of the past. Glad to see a man like you being the man you are.
Appreciate your service, so long as you weren't a corrupt cop... which means you're a unicorn.
Damn. Gotta say that dude is a loose cannon! You can tell just by the way he fast talks and fast walks. There’s some skeletons in the closet there somewhere! Your gut is always your best judge and that’s on $5k or $500k deals. Good call walking out
walk away from this
100% I would have told him to shove his junk
I guarantee this would of gone a different direction if Dave had a legal contract in hand ready for a signature
I would have walked before 11:00 of this conversation. He made an uncomfortable situation. He keeps saying the same things over & over, that made no sense, so I believe something is up. I hope you don't take the deal. Absolutely follow your gut! He made my stomach crawl. So sad people can be so scummy! Be kind to one another. Stay safe. Love to all
WOW!!! I AM SO GLAD you walked away from that. That dude is involved in some nasty dealings with possible enemies of the US, arms dealers, owes them money, maybe has sold that stuff a few times already to some other people, who knows. I hope that he is being watched because there is something very bad going on with that guy and some "offshore military account"...Whatever life he is living, I bet it would make a helluva movie. I think it would end like Scarface though...
Dude this guy energy gives me anxiety . Ive delt with guys like this talking out of both sides of his mouth. You handled it well Dave .
Same. Used to be an estimator for remodeling homes and the people I'd deal with was so frustrating. They would have a problem like this guy where they completely misunderstand the situation and you have to get them back to reality.
Meth is a hell of a drug.
It makes you feel smart while making you stupid.
I personally don't get it. YMMV.
I do think it should be legal though, so I can put it in my survival pack. It's really great for when you're screwed anyway, so you can't exactly make it worse.
You're not kidding, it was giving me such bad anxiety that I had to skip through most of his talking
That's the truth
Please don't let this deal get you down Dave.
In the first video when art said that he has been up for 7 days straight I instantly thought that he was a crackhead... You did the right thing and your CZcams family will love you forever for all the amazing things you do for your team, family and all of us! Kudos my friend 😊
Art is full of BS. Even crackheads don't make it past 3 or 4 days.
Same. I could tell right away that he was tweaking. I’m glad Dave made the right call on this one. This dude is SKETCHY AF.
@@kansascountry970 bet i know where the 10k went....
i wondered if he was a drug dealer back in the day.
he's coked up. I mentioned this in the last video.
Wow, mad respect for staying calm and having patience with that guy. I would have been out near immediately.
Dude Dave is so level headed and defused that well.
I was getting serious tweaker vibes from this guy when they first met him. Just the way he looks and acts... the ego and grandiosity... chain-smoking cigs and lashing out at people...
Much respect to Dave for how he handled this. Honestly, compared to Dave's professionalism, he made Art look like a clown and I'm not surprised he's being evicted and is going under.
FR
Thought the same thing.
Lol for sure
I was literally about to comment this. He gives me some serious amphetamine vibes.
Yup, first thought was "cocaines a hell of a drug" but tweaker/adderall seems to maybe fit better
As someone who has buying and selling all kinds of items for over 20 years, 2 minutes in, in the last video and I've seen guys like this a dozen times. They are never worth dealing with, you never win with them, lies, lies and more lies.
Couldn't agree more. The ones that never stop talking and telling you how great they or what they have is are always full of it. They are smart at playing people by dangling a carrot but easy to spot once you have come across the type before.
A very classic attempt at deflecting or distracting "Oh, look at this", the avionics room and the room next to it that was locked and the key "disappeared?" If he really wanted to be transparent he would've ensured that these things were addressed right away, the fact that he had the key, but pretended that he did not if all part of his con game.
@@jnelsoninjax yep and Dave gave him an easy answer "let's walk around put a piece of tape on what's yours so we know" boom dude gets mad and defensive .
Yeah for real. They Want you to buy their crap without looking at it or getting an opinion. Then when you refuse to send money to their shady Swiss bank account they don’t wanna do business anymore.
Great video.
Sorry your deal went south, but good for you for showing all of us keyboard warriors that business deals don't always go the way you want them to go, even for those (like yourself) who are accomplished at it.
LIke Kenny Rodgers said "you gotta know when to hold them, Know when to fold them, know when to walk away and know when to run".
Great patience ! I look forward to your next adventure.
What an interesting story. Hope you guys were able to recoup some of those losses. I would love to see a follow up on this.
One of the most important things to know is when to walk away from a deal. Good call, sometimes you just need to listen to your gut
Your gut feeling is a very powerful instrument
This sounds exactly like every conversation I've had with a scammer trying to rope me in. Never regretted walking away from conversations like these. They always act like they are "helping you out", "wanted to keep it simple", and never fail to mention "I can sell/get rid of X in an instant".
Yah, I'm autistic and so many years of my life I got completely taken by people who acted just like this.
@@LunarFrequenciesHD im on the spectrim too and I always thought the best in ppl but now I know ppl only care about themselves at the end of the day! please be careful and take care of yourself!
He’s crazzzy. His story 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Exactly... Why so stressed if everything is so easy?
So glad you left!!! That Dude has serious issues!!! Not surprised he is being evicted!
That is so great that you kept your cool with this guy that seemed like he was high on drugs!- This shows how deep down you are a great person! Glad you did the right thing, but sorry you lost 10k. I would've probably exploded and told this guy off, and it's great you took the high road and was respectful!- this is why I respect you and subscribe and have watched I think everyone of your videos- keep being you!
Dave is simply asking "what is it exactly you are selling, so that i can value this deal" and the guy is like " No"
That's because it wasn't a "deal." It was "a donation." Dude was gonna donate it all to Dave... for USD ~1/4 Mil. lol
@@-108- And kick him out of the warehouse as soon as he had the money and say that it was not a deal and hes not getting any of it "why would I sell it for that much, now get out or my armed security will make you"
He was calling it a donation for a reason, so he had no obligations to actually hand anything over.
@@Remsster I think you're totally right.
Guy was filled with word vomit. He should be ashamed of himself for acting like that and putting Dave in that situation. But Dave held face and walked away with integrity in tact. Mad respect!
My dad who recently passed in October said many things that stuck with me in my life, one of them was he use to say, "Chris if it's too good to be true it probably is "
And he always also told me to listen to that little voice inside that we all have, trouble finds you when you don't
Thanks for the video guys
Well said Sir.
Sorry for you loss mate and he left you with some good advice, mine always used to say whats for you won't go by
Still holds true today.
Trust but verify, I always thought this meant don't trust, maybe pretend to trust. A good scam artist is someone that can make you think they are your long lost brother.
My name is chris as well n my dad said the same! Be smart about it son n if ain’t feeling right don’t do it! WORD TO THE DADS👊🙌😘🙏❤️🔥