REN - SU!ClDE | REACTION
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- My friends.. this is like a spiritual event. @RenMakesMusic is on to something special, and it hurts that he's had to feel pain to give us this art - but I'm grateful everything we get. Its just amazing
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Great reaction. Since you asked, we're Renegades.
Great comment!! And thanks! Noted
We are the Renegades. 😊
Every time I hear this song, I'm struck again by Ren's ability to weave pain and beauty together so seamlessly. An absolutely stunning track.
He’s talking about his pain as if it’s family. I shared it with my therapist and she said this is a therapy technique called LFI or something
❤I think we all love Ren so much because he is so brave, selfless, honest, vulnerable……I could go on and on ❤😢
Wow, the tears flowed.
I heard somewhere that music is the only time we all feel our own feelings, together. This is one of those moments 💛
@@Beldvlmnt No doubt.
I love your reactions to Ren. You’re always thoughtful in what you point out about production and performance choices, but you also connect emotionally, which is what makes us all love Ren.
And I appreciate this 🙏 I know it’s a passionate crowd and I want to make sure I give SOMETHING back. Luckily, Ren makes it real easy haha!
The Reniverse, the Renaissance, the Ren rabbit hole. Ren fans are the best people! I'm glad I found Ren and all the amazing people that follow him! Changing the world for the better...
He talked about crying while he wrote that last part and finally just decided to leave it in. He cried, wrote a few lines, recorded right then and there, went back and wrote more and so on. The authenticity is abaolutely there and I would hope that the pain he exposed would be a deterrent for those contemplating an untimely exit. If you could give the gift of sparing someone you love from lifelong emotional turmoil, would you do it? Because you do it every day you stay alive.
Btw, he got on a Twitch live after this premiered to make sure people were ok and to reassure everyone he's ok. Idk. He doesn't seem to think much of himself, but I think he's a pretty amazing human, from what I've seen. He seems to care. A lot.
The Twitch stream was incredible! You’re right, Ren spent a good amount of time making sure the community was ok ❤️
This one is special. Not only is it boldly tackling an important topic, but Ren does it in such a beautiful and thoughtful way. And our community of RENegades is growing! It’s amazing seeing the impact of this song.
The ending that Ren added only a few weeks ago takes it to a whole new level. Even though that night was in 2010, it shows how much grief and regret like that stays with you 😿 I believe it’s one of the reasons “It never really felt like the right time” … he knew the pain a decision like that causes.
I love the word play of the chorus, the “Oh I, Oh I, Oh I’ve” sounds like “Oh why, Oh why, Oh why.”
10:13 I believe the reference to family (father, mother, brother, sister) are used metaphorically. He has a younger sister, who he admires greatly, but no biological brother that I know of.
“I'm so fucking washed up and sea sick
masochistic kid with a split lip
six feet deep I can't eat im nervous
won't stay down 'cause my body purges
useless my mother, cant keep in my supper
skin so pale 'cause my cheeks leak colour
Truth is my father, you choose your karma
draw for the sword then drive through the armour”
Great to see you here!! Thanks for the beautiful comment, as usual 😘 beautiful story... all be it a sad one, but just stunning.
I agree with the metaphoric comparison of family - almost like his experience was so close to him it became like family.
Also, YEs the oh why oh why part!! Totally sounds like this - which again just seems so clever - even if it wasnt intentional, good writing is good wriitng =)
Really enjoy your insights and reactions, thank you for sharing! 10-11 min mark question...I think when he calls out "family" identities, they refer to his symptoms? Like his pains/symptoms are so familiar they're part of his being. Bruises-brother, when I had a bruise it didn't look like my skin and my brother did not know how to play nice growing up. Sister-I mean, who doesn't try to pop that foreign thing on your body and of course after, you've left a bruise, btw, my eldest sis be like, "come'er let me pop that for you!", it was pretty gross...and disturbing!! Mother-stomach, cause mom might be the cook in the family? At least in mine she was and when we was sick, she always tried to feed us. Father-truth, kind gives me the head of the family kinda vibe. I know in my own experience growing up, dad made the decisions and took the responsibility of those decisions...anyway, just my take. Thanks again for diving into this one.
This one.....hurt.
It took me a bit to realize that this is a GIFT of perspective.
There are many who are so lost in the depths of despair. That they can't see a hand, friend or those around that love them.
This was an intensely personal glimpse into the pain that a loss such as this creates.
Yeah, it hurt.
It was supposed to.
If it helps just ONE person take a moment to think about how their loss WOULD affect those around them.
It was well WORTH the pain.
My hopes, by bearing his soul. He is able to let go, of even part of the heaviness on his heart AND mind.
Let's go RENagades!!!❤
This one is so impactful. Ren's honest and raw emotions shine through and bring a difficult topic to life. Love your reactions ❤❤
And there she is 😂
Great reaction! He’s just so good at making sad songs sonically upbeat, until the end part which always breaks me 🖤
Just found your channel today and have been enjoying your reactions. Anyone who doesn’t choke up at this song is not human in my opinion. Keep up the great work.
Absolute agreed dude has such an amazing way of putting these topics in to these poems for us. So glad I’ve been introduced 💛
The live version of this blew me away. "For Joe" is a must watch. ❤
I may be wrong but I think most reactors don’t realise that the tranquility line is when someone who is about to jump or commit the act, sees that outcome as peace. Sees the water below as tranquil. Life is so hard that that one movement of a jump or kicking the chair away seems the only or best option to find peace from the hurt.
So I may have missed it in the moment, but you explaining it makes sense - I don’t really wanna say relatable but I understand the words of the experience. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
I think it could have a double meaning, both from Joe’s perspective of wanting to escape, but also from Ren’s perspective of getting there just minutes too late and looking at the tranquility of the water below him 😿 I can’t even imagine. I’m sure that was a bridge they were on all the time. Probably had happy memories before that night.
I think it’s cool that a mutual friend opened a restaurant named Freckled Angel after the song and album Ren dedicated to Joe ❤️ It’s close to the Menai Bridge.
It doesn't get anymore real.. All we have is each other and sometimes that gets thrown away.
God I just want to hug everyone 😣
@@Beldvlmnt Big hugs. Onward and upward.
Beautiful reaction
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great upload man, and breakdown of song, /talk, thanks
Thank you! Ren makes it easy, I swear.
Ren❤❤❤❤
Great reaction mate, just found your channel from this video and watched all your reactions to Ren. You add a great perspective and Knowledge.
The fact you love the busking and live performances please do the Big push paint it black and then war pigs.
There’s many more with chinchilla and Sam but with your music style you might like the above more.
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Ren:
Today I want to write something beautiful and eloquent but I’ve been staring at my computer screen for the past 10 minutes blankly. So I’ll just write.
Today, the 1st of June is my friend Joe’s birthday.
I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again.
This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mums pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much white lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary.
Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe.
Him and Sagar knew every word to the songs id write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then.
On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe id have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said happy Christmas and left.
Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late.
Joe’s body was never found.
Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe.
As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, freckled angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since.
My first ever album I named Freckled Angels in tribute of one of the best people I ever knew.
Skip forward some years. I’d been sitting on this song I wrote a few years ago. It always felt a little incomplete. It was going to be my next release, but I was dreading it because of this feeling of incompletion. I decided, very last minute, to do something about it. I sat by my piano, and the rest of the song fell out of me. I hadn’t thought about Joe in a little while, and the song initially wasn’t going to be about him, but the words all fell out of me. I wrote and recorded a whole 2 minutes extra, recording each part as I wrote it. Tears spewing out of my eyes pretty much the whole time, and decided not to do my usual thing of perfecting each line, I just recorded every line as it came. This will be my next release. You can turn on notifications by following the link in the comments below
During this campaign I will be raising money for the RNLI, the group of brave men and women who spent hours tirelessly looking for Joe after the night he went missing. I'll also be donating 50% of the profit on all copies of the 'Freckled Angels' album directly to Joes family as a nice surprise gift. I will include links to the RNLI donation page below where 100% of the money will go to support them, I will be travelling to the UK later this month to make a music video, and have carved out a couple of days where I will travel to my home town on the isle of Anglesey to present the royal national lifeboat institution with a cheque of all the money raised.
I love the fact that he raised funds to support RNLI. This song and that donation will save lives ❤️ And Im glad he’s connecting with Joe’s family while he is in the UK. Hopefully all of this will give them some closure, a bit of peace, and some healing.
You can tell a lot about someone’s character by the way they handle adversity. Ren is an inspiration in so many ways.
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This is such a difficult and brave, important creation.
He moved back home at the height of his illness. His mother was there for him then.
This was done with AI. REN IS A GENUS!!
his bad feelings are real close to him , so close like family ' bruise is my brother , bruise is my sister , useless my mother , truth is my father ..
Renegades Unite!!!!
By the way, it the Ren-egades. :)
Yessss thank youu
your analysis of tracks is always the best!
In the first verse, Brother and Sister are his bruises. In the second verse, the mother is the useless, and the father is the truth. Those are metaphors and not relating to his actual family.
Bloody hell, you love the sound of your own voice, don't you?
😂😂 sure boss
Interpretation is flexible and people have different opinions of the meanings. Looking at the lyrics, Ren says "Bruises my brother", "Bruises my sister" and not "Bruise is my brother, bruise is my sister". This hits me is that he sees his life as hurting not just himself but his family too. This fits with previously saying that he is identified with narcistic and sadistic.
When he says "useless my mother" it is in the middle of saying that he can't eat. I interpret that he is telling his mom that it is useless, I can't eat. The same with "Truth is my father", Ren is telling his father that the truth is that you choose your karma.
Just my thoughts ...
Mom relationship is great but it's useles s to feed him because he can't keep it down. Relationship with father involved parents separating vin his early teens. Not clear to me but i wonder if he is telling dad that he chose the karma. Not clarified.
There is for sure some pain there. .
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