The Crisis in Gaza | Navigating Difficult Conversations: A Q&A with Dr. Gabor Maté & Daniel Maté
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“Until we recognize our commonality, we create more woe for ourselves and others… we trigger their shame and further isolation.”
- Daniel Maté
No statement, no words can speak to the immense suffering, devastation and horrendous humanitarian crisis intensifying in the Middle East. The current tragedy awakens existential fear, acute grief and deep despair. It also creates a rift among friends and families. Many are in a state of deep shock and in need of support, and the obstacles to communicating with loved ones only intensify the anguish.
In this Q&A session, Dr. Gabor Maté and his son Daniel discuss ways to listen and communicate across different perspectives and narratives.
Dr. Maté is a Holocaust survivor and an expert on trauma, addiction, and the connections between stress and illness. Daniel is an award-winning theatre songwriter and self-described ‘mental chiropractor’. Father and son have co-authored "The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture".
They draw on their personal experiences and professional perspectives to help us foster a compassionate dialogue, even when grappling with divisive narratives, intergenerational trauma and incapacity to face hard facts.
When in the grip of trauma, it becomes extremely challenging to make space for a different perspective, or take in facts that don’t fit our narrative of choice. The sheer emotional pain can narrow our vision and harden our position. As Dr. Maté’s work reveals, beneath rigid beliefs and attitudes often lie unhealed wounds in need of care, not condemnation.
We explored how trauma brings about a false quest for security. When survival feels under threat, we instinctively adopt an “us versus them” bunker mentality, clinging to the familiar while walling off anything that feels foreign. This primal urge for safety and control ends up fostering the very insecurity it is trying to fight. Only by questioning these “normal” reactions can space emerge for a broader understanding.
Gabor Maté, M.D. is a specialist on trauma, addiction, stress and childhood development. After 20 years of family practice and palliative care experience, Dr. Maté worked for over a decade in Vancouver’s Downtown East Side with patients challenged by drug addiction and mental illness. For his groundbreaking medical work and writing he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country’s highest civilian distinction, and the Civic Merit Award from his hometown, Vancouver.
Gabor is also the creator of a psychotherapeutic approach, Compassionate Inquiry, now studied by thousands of therapists, physicians, counselors, and others in over 80 countries.
Daniel Maté is a composer, lyricist, and playwright for musical theatre based in BC and New York. He has been active since 2007, when he graduated from New York University’s Tisch School of the Arts with an M.F.A. in Musical Theatre Writing. He also holds a B.A. in Psychology and Philosophy from McGill.
Daniel received the prestigious Edward Kleban Prize for Most Promising Lyricist in American Musical Theatre, a Jonathan Larson Foundation Grant, and the ASCAP Foundation’s Cole Porter Award for Excellence in Music and Lyrics (for his song cycle The Longing and the Short of It.) He has presented his work at the historic Kennedy Center in Washington, DC and New York’s Lincoln Center, and was an invited participant in the inaugural Johnny Mercer Writers Colony.
Science and Nonduality (SAND) contemplates and reveres the beauty, complexity, pain, and great mystery that weave the infinite cycles of existence. We explore beyond ultimate truths, binary thinking, and individual awakening while acknowledging humanity as a mere part of the intricate web of life.
The Crisis in Gaza | Navigating Difficult Conversations: A Q&A with Dr. Gabor Maté & Daniel Maté
As a Jewish woman myself and married to A Palestinian , I've lived in Amman, and visited Palestine a few times this issue is so close to my heart. Thank you so much for all your courage, love and compassion. X
What a powerful message Daniel so eloquently delivered to the Israeli lady. Much respect to the Maté family.
Maybe eloquent, but cold harded without any compassion.😢
@@annahacker5863 Maybe there could’ve been a bit more empathy, but I still appreciated his intent. This is delicate and emotionally charged. At least I found her suffering to be acknowledged and validated.
@Well, and then she was muted. I wonder, if the moderators muted her. I was here a view days ago, there were comments begging them to go back to her, as she seemed very touched and sad. The moderators also pointed out that several people during the lifestream asked them to put an end on the conversation. But I dont find these comments anymore, so I guess they have been deleted. I just find that all very strange..... I still believe that the channel owners want to do some good with this, but for me this seems to be a distorted way - although I feel their intention is good. (I would not say the same for Gabor Mates intentions, he rather seem to be obsessed with himself and he knows everything.....Apart from knowing everything about trauma...he knows whats going on in Israel, whats going on in Gaza, even whats going in Germany....Amazing, isnt it? Or maybe rather a overestimation ob himself? ) So maybe better find a trustworthy organisation that works in Gaza and donate money to help the desperate people there?
@@annahacker5863 Only genocide defenders think it's cold hearted to correct a privileged oppressor. You wouldn't call it cold hearted if someone said the exact same thing to a German woman participating in the crimes of her country in 1938 but then we know that brown and black lives never matter to many as much as European ones. Even their victimhood is elevated to a higher plane than that of non Europeans.
@@annahacker5863 Where did you find this behaviour from him? Anyone who has extensive knowledge on more than two subjects is a 'know it all'? He lived in Palestine for many years. He's seen the suffering of Palestinians in the West Bank fot quite a while. He's seen what Israelis do to them. And unlike you with your dedicated sophistry of 'both sides', he has the humanity to not support oppressors out of tribal affiliation. The fact that you smear such a man because he shares the lopsided reality of this issue where there's a clear oppressor and victim shows your own moral bankruptcy. You'd love him if shed tears for the population that's occupying a defenceless people instead of propagating for its victims.
When it comes to us brown people, European colonialism and oppression suddenly becomes 'nuanced' and 'too complicated' with two equally legitimate sides but when it comes to Europeans, the idea of invasions and military occupations is extremely easy to decipher and condemn like we saw for in the case of Ukraine.
The japanese culture knows something that is called MA, and that is a moment of silence after having listened to someone before answering, a moment to become aware of the impact of the words received and their resonance in one self.
This conversation is an example of it. The best contact between the speakers I could observe then were moments of MA, and a rupture of contact took place when there was no listening any more.
As Doctor Mate mentioned according to research childen of Gaza were most psychologically traumatic children in 2004 even before of Hamas. I can’t imagine what they are going through in Rafah camps right now.
were they psychologically traumatized because of the verses of violence beheadings hate towards non muslims mentioned in kuran which they are forced to recite 5 times a day
@@indipacifician3693 did you even watch the video?
Love to Rifka(sp?). I’m definitely pro-Palestine but I felt such heart and kindness from her. As well as pain. ❤️
Yes, respect to her for listening and engaging in the conversation, it must've been extremely difficult for her yet she was willing to listen
The prod face of Gabor whilst listening to Daniel speak .❤️
What a profound conversation on an uncomfortable topic. Thank you Gabor, Daniel and hosts. Thank you for your humanity and authenticity.
What a beautiful open-hearted vulnerable dialogue. Having participated in quite a few public “talk to your cousin” moments in anti-racism work in the Deep South of Amerikkka, I know how much courage and equilibrium it takes to have such hard conversations. I love that Daniel and Gabor are doing this work together. I also know what that feels like, to put your authentic self on the front lines beside your child in public. We are all having so many global teachable moments. The Palestinian people have been teaching us all for a hundred years now what persistent resilient insistence on liberation and sovereignty looks like. And our Jewish diaspora grappling with these gut-wrenching conversations has much to teach us all about finding our way through the noise to discern what is real, what is right and dig deep to broaden our compassion. Conversations like these give me hope that we might yet have time to crack open enough for the light to get in. #FreePalestine
I‘m following from Germany. Being a member of the political 68 ers, supporting the Fatah in the 70 ‚s . I am devastated . In those days we were fighting and had hope….. look where we are now . Nobody could anticipate this genocide. So txs for your support .
All the massacres from 1937 , 38 ? The partition of the ME among UK and France .
After ww2 , deciding who would be the authority over Namibia , Tanzania and other German colonies in Africa ?
Of course we could see how this would end , in despair and tears .
@@fightback397 common knowledge , history is a process, nobody knows where and how it ends, the people in Gaza are imprisoned, they can’t escape , they a slaughtered, nobody could see this genocide coming.
Many people were able to predict this genocide because they were paying attention. They were shouted down. A lesson for all to learn!!
End War Now!
Thank you Gabor, Daniel, and the rest of you. 🙏💖🙏🌄
Much love to Rifka. I wonder if shutting down one's empathy, hardening oneself on one side, allows for a bridging, for an opening of a crack that allows some light in. However I truly cherish you being open about this fact, Gabor and Daniel. Thank you so much for this!
Dr Maté, Daniel and Aaron are bright American lntellectuals, with a passion for justice and human rights, to summarize it for humanism . A model for many of us. Hope, their sphere of influence will spread all over.
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Real human beings talking do so much for humanity. Thanks a lot! ❤🇵🇸
I attended the live, and didn't realize, until it was over, how wrong my illusions of myself being "understanding" and "compassionate" really were- Until *****- I refused to consider her point of view or her pain, and the more she spoke, the more I yelled for her to "Shut up", just because it wasn't my point of view.
Hamas has been firing rockets into peaceful Israeli territories for years. They have been trying to commit genocide against Jews for years. What don’t you understand??????? Gaza hasn’t been occupied by Israel since 2005 when the Jews there were expelled by ISRAEL so the Palestinians could have their own territory and the Palestinians voted in Hamas and turned Gaza into a land of terror tunnels and weaponry against Israel. Why don’t you present this evidence?????? You’re damaged from childhood trauma and need a good therapist.
Very insightful duo, I already knew Gabor, but discovered Daniel, he's brilliant and lovely. Thank you all!
What a fantastic communication
Thank you hosts and to the spiritual connection and the checking in with the human experience in the present moment
Thank you all 4 of you for sharing this conversation because what is happening is so heavy that it is a blessing to hold the 30K Palestinian deaths many of innocent children and citizens, together. ❤ and peace
I wish that most of those who presented themselves to the panel would have taken Daniel´s advice to take a little self-examination. The narrow lenses in a discussion about other people´s sufferings were disheartening. It was nearly 100% what about me.
In all of his discussions about this subject, Gabor has been steady and clear in his narrative: He cares about the Palestinians due to his honest, rigorous, unrelenting self-reflecting search for truth. This truth expands way beyond this particular time and place and has been pushed to a much larger picture. This truth comes with healing, release from the grip of fear, clarity of sight beyond one´s own self and leads to true compassion.
Wow. The profound message Gabor shares about authenticity versus attachment is golden wisdom. I am so thankful I could hear that message from him today.
Amazing conversation ! Many thanks again, SAND, Dr Gabor Mate and Daniel Mate ! So much wisdom, love, compassion and humanity. So much to learn. Also, amazing interventions by Betsy Polatin, the SE practitioner who helped us all come back to a regulated state and from there be able to continue the conversation. Big kudos to all ! Let’s keep these conversations coming !❤🙌🏻
Top notch, true freedom fighters. Definition of people who stand for the truth.
Another wonderful conversation with the Maté’s. Wonderful questions and discussion. Thank you. We need more of this!
Gabor said he thought there were 3 reasons why Germans have the hardest time with this conversation. He mentioned the first reason - guilt. But was cut off before he could explain the other 2. I would love to know his thoughts, because i live in germany too and it is driving me crazy not being able to figure this out. At least i can't put it into words yet.
This was wonderful, thank you.
You're such beautiful humans, thankyou for connecting all who feel the human suffering without a community to share with!!
The answer I can give to the question of why there is so much hatred is: they have not, or have not been allowed, to speak to each other while maintaining the principle of respect. The wall is the most emblematic symbol
Since October 7th I felt that having a festival right at the border of an occupied land demonstrated a foolish non-caring naive crowd of partyers, trying to have fun beside an oppressed population. Just like eating a great meal all for yourself without wanting to share a bite with a starving person by your side.
Agreed!
Kind of like the public gatherings in the US celebrating lynchings. That’s where the word “picnic” came from.
Isabelle, that’s a very interesting point. I never thought about that, but it makes total sense.
Thank you so much for sharing this video. Grateful to everyone who participated in it.
The conversation was beyond my expectations. Thank you
Thank you Dr. Gabor. All you have to be is human to stand for what’s right. God created us from the same father and mother (Adam and Eve). No one has the right to oppress or subjugate another people.
Thankyou to Dr Mate and Daniel. I could see how difficult this topic was for the lady from Jerusalem but I could also see how indoctrinated she is. Massive love and healing to all affected. We can't fight back with hate however I understand why people feel this way but we can't continue that way. You both articulated your reply so well. I'm glad we have people like you guys in positions to explain how to resolve trauma, because this is trauma ongoing until it is heald.
You know what I like... is when i hear truths that resonate with me and it gives me tingles throughout my whole body. Thanks for the full body tingles.
Thank U Gabor, your voice weighs a TON!!
I'm wondering if any of you have gotten ahold of Norman Finkelstein's book, "I'll Burn That Bridge When I Get To It."
Thank you Family ❤🙏🏽
keep shining, keep spreading hope and wisdom, keep encouraging alignment, thank you very much, I am grateful
What a powerful session - such useful remarks, advice from Gabor and Daniel. And the honesty from both of them about the hardness of heart that has developed in them over this time - I soo relate to that. What remarkable courage to disclose that - I could sense the energy shift and the space opened up even more for honest sharing.
I hope that Rivka wasn't muted - that it was a technical glitch that prevented us from hearing what else she said.
Just after you were born, no matter how bad the circumstances, a person, or people, gave you some measure of loving kindness, some amount of compassion. If not, you would not be alive now. That was your introduction to life, the implicit knowledge that loving kindness and compassionate understanding are indispensable for human life to exist.
The foundation of human life, therefore, is loving kindness and compassionate understanding.
As we age we are taught otherwise by damaged people. 💔
Their misdirection is rarely intentional. They are simply sick due to their own early learning experiences/trauma.
Once this is understood, we can seek help to dismantle the wrong thinking that we were taught and insert, through daily practice, right thinking, and thereby right actions.
The teacher that I have learned from is Thich Nhat Hahn, and the practitioners that learned from him before me.
weezi-💜🙏💖🙏🤠
Thank you brilliant team Mate for your wisdom and insights, participants for the points raised, and guests for offering such a helpful platform! 🙏 Being able to discuss this subject is MOST helpful. Too many hearts are lead-heavy, feelings are raw, and most of us are too apprehensive about even broaching it. I really appreciated listening to this recording. ❤
Lol Daniel getting schooled by dad was fun to watch.
The Sri Lanka lady who spoke was the one who I related to the most out of this entire thing., and the American man Maurice who spoke after her.
Mate family I love you
" The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by himmaliar, in The Posen speech to SS officers (6 October 1943) he literally said “we have to be savages in a chapter that will never be written when treating human animals”, even their calculating of calories was also done"- On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians.
Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1
According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1
When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1
From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations.
A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower.
The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest.
The reported ages of the victims are as follows:
0-4: 2 civilians
5-12: 8 civilians
13-17: 14 civilians
18-25: 132 civilians
26-40: 119 civilians
41-60: 55 civilians
61+: 40 civilians
Active duty military personnel:
18-25: 258 active duty military personnel
26-40: 60 active duty military personnel
41-60: 17 active duty military personnel
61+: 1 active duty military personnel
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr
There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%"
-Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well'
-Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband'
Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh
UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023:
2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440.
2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255.
2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492.
2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300.
2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138.
2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30.
2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349.
2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191.
2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227.
civilian deaths on the other side -
2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9
2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26
Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel.
Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc
The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Yinon Plan.
Thank you! 🙏
Thank you for this conversation! 🫶🙏
Thank you so much for this conversation.
Although I disagreed completely with Rifkas understanding of things, i was really moved by her. She appeared so authentic and bewildered by the focus on Palestine. I appreciated the Mates trying to help her know the context, and to admit their hardening against israeli suffering. This was both normalising for me, but also shook me to recognise how I too have done this and how unhelpful this is. In his video with Angela Davis, they recognised the experience of pain for those that were involved in the siege on 7th October and have lost people or are missing people is valid, and unbearable pain. I think this would have been worth sharing with Rifka before 'explaining'. But we are all human and get so activated by this horrific situation. I am going to try to hold onto the fear, hurt and anger that those i dont agree with are feeling to try to maintain the possibility of expansion for myself and the other
THANK YOU VERY MUCH A CLEAR CONVERSATION BASED ON FACTS, OBSERVATIONS AND EXPERIENCES. I SAVE THE HÖSS LETTER FOR GERMAN QUESTIONER..
THANKS SAYING AS SIMPLY HOW IT IS: CONSCIENCE DO COST! ALWAYS
I aspire to be as courageous as you two.
Bless you people
This was wonderful, thank you very much!
Dr. and Daniel Mate’ my knowledge of the middle east is infantile in comparison to your collective wisdom. I don’t say that in as much in reverence to the two of you as it is an appreciation for the heartfelt efforts I see the Mate’s making for people to have a transformative experience and a deeper understanding. The conversations you are having are critical for humanity. It is my hope that peace comes to the souls of the Israeli people and that they can heal from the fear and dread they feel. The Israeli government is ultimately responsible for this ongoing tragic assault on the Palestinian people. It’s time for them to grasp the truth about the genocide their government is carrying out. Until then, we will continue to witness the moral and spiritual self destruction of the Israeli people. I wonder if what we see time and again IS the true nature of the human condition, and that is to self-destruct.
Thanks for your examination of this very difficult topic. As an Australian spending time in Germany during this difficult time the book “The History of Love and Hate in 21 Statues” comes to mind. Symbols are powerful representations within the human psyche which often defy rationality in their ability to impassion and mobilise. Mixed with Black and White thinking and the categorisation of people as “Other” - well there can be serious consequences. I have had interesting conversations with German enculturated people before and then after the current Israel Palestine war began regarding Germany’s stance on its past and the Governmental stance on Israel. I think the underlying problem with Germany’s approach is the Black and White nature of the culture. Perhaps I’m wrong. But it stood out to me. “Because of what we did to the Jews we need to be 100% behind whatever it is that the Jewish government is doing BECAUSE WE NEVER WANT “IT” TO HAPPEN AGAIN!” And as a result of this Germany has been instrumental in it HAPPENING AGAIN. Only this time it is the Palestinians being subjected to Genocide by the state of Israel. Such an irony. But people in the German Government are blind to it. Because Black and White thinking is a type of mind blindness. A lack of “Mindsight”. Because your consciousness is turned fully one way- what you see to be the “Right” way - you cannot see the trail of destruction you leave behind you.
So much gratitude for this ❤
This was excellent, thank you.
WoW, surprising format.
Betsy Polatin connected from trigger back to my inner senses, needed to remain open, present, focused to this debate. The Gravity of it.
Surprising idea to include Betsy's method to this program👌
Immense Gratiude. Unity. Console. It helps not doubting one's health of mind.
Of most importance to me this day's !
I am mixed Portuguese/German decent.
The guilt is felt deep.
I respect that there is awareness in Germany on the Genocide on European Jews (not so much awareness on Cinti and Roma or the Genocide in Namibia).
Personally, i avoid even a talk about the Terror, the Genocide on Palestinians - with my own sister. I am scared. I wish to know what her thoughts and emotions are.
Sonia, the first Q&A caller put her individual situation over here in Germany in word's very well.
(Quote from Rudolf Höss, a father to his son, words of conduct
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The Portuguese side of me, is in shame for the lack of awareness about the Horros and Genocide comited during colonial times. Wars, slavery, slave trade, "conquests"...
(colonial independence 1975 !
I witnessed it).
I know, fake moral, guilt and shame is an hindrance not needed. But it is easy to hide behind fake morality, guilt and shame. We are ridiculous raising our index moral finger.
ALL ON COST OF PALESTINIAN LIFE'S !!!
Europe, the toxicity of it spread around the globe...
👍👍👍
Many thanks. Enjoyed the conversation.
Fear is always the enemy and fear hides reality. This state drives almost all of the evil in the world, the only other force being psycopathy. It drives emotional separateness and imperialist hegemony. I applaud what you are trying to do here. The only thing that can remove fear is familiarity born in repeated contact.
Does anyone have the quote Gabor mentioned at the guy at the funeral?
Brilliant, as always.
a lot of times when people talk about jews, they really mean zionists because Israeli jews have identified themselves with zionist (unfortunately) so people use these 2 words interchangeably.
As for advika or whoever her name was (the lady from Jerusalem), she thinks she carried the trauma of her dad (she was not actually traumatized herself), what kind of trauma does she think the Palestinians feel that are directly traumatized daily AND they inherit the trauma from their parents and grand parents (so it is multiple layers of trauma)?
Bravehearts of the Real Jews
Dr Gabor mate
Daniel Aaron mate
Prof Norman Finkelstein
General son Miko Peled
Historian Avi Shlaim
❤️💚❤️💚❤️
Epic Dialogue!
Focus in the solution ❤
Love you guys
Not every German agree, like me.
What I notice, thats the same people, that didnt take in the other naritives of the last years also.
23.00..like. Feldenkrais class.. thanks
53:00 in the documentary Tantura (2022) there is a iTf man who says that they took a pregnant woman, made bets whether the baby is a boy or a girl, disemboweled and cut her stomach open to check who won, another one talking about school children who were raising their the hands, the same way kids do in a classroom, after he rounded them up. He then kept firing. Both laughing merrily and casually at the recollection. For more recent atrocities, "Breaking the Silence" record statements by the iTf themselves, they recount the events witht he same casualty their forebears do.
yess comedy is soul awakening
I joined via CZcams please keep me updated for the next thank you
The exciting way to learn to listen to difficult information. What is the name of the movie that was talked about?
"The Zone Of Interest" Available on amazon prime and in cinemas.
triggers or "activations" are for us to see sort and heal.. pandoras box is open.... let take hopefully a broader look and love the self enough to check othe self
There are a few questions that I have.
1. The idea of supremacy. That The Jewish people are the chosen people (tribe) of The Creator. I find it incredible that The Creator would select one ; people, tribe, nation, ethnicity, race or religion, above every other ; people, tribe, nation, ethnicity, race or religion. That God Allah, Yaweh, (The Creator) would show favour and privilege to one group over every other group.
2. Is there an indoctrination or form of brainwashing implemented on the collective conscience of Jewish peoples mind ? There seems to be a deep rooted fear or hatred for people who do not subscribe to the zionist ideology.
3. With recent events in Israel/Palestine and the atrocities inflicted do you think that this will be the demise of the State of Israel?
4. The Jewish people whom have been persecuted throughout history and have suffered greatly especially during World War 2, could then inflict such horror and inhumanity upon the Palestinian people. Having suffered and felt so much pain to then inflict a similar pain and suffering upon another group.
Thanks in advance for your responce to these questions. 💛💜💛
My humble answers, when God chooses someone over the other, He does also expect more from them such as more submission, patience, ...
4. It's due their being brainwashed and believing they are chosen even though they were cursed afterwards except a few and the Quran acknowledges the few who are good, such as the Jew prophets dnd their true followers and truthfull jews of these times.
@@osamamanassera Thank you. The ayats in the Qur'an tell us that there was a tribe of Bani Israel whom transgressed against The Creator. They were forbidden to catch fish on the Sabbath, so they cast their nets on a Friday and hauled in the catch on Sunday, thereby attempting to trick and fool Allah. For this transgression Allah smited these Jewish people and turned them into Apes and Swine.
People like Rifka just don't want to see that others are victims and resist because of the decades of oppression. You can't change minds of people who just want to see one side and she showed that very clearly.
" Set the Captives FREE " RNM🦁
becoming what you hate... is always a choice.... we are never "made to" become that..
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My heart is largely concordant with the Mate's. But I wish they hadn't muted that lady.
they didn't, they let her speak for the allotted time and they moved on. zionists don't get to filibuster a space just because they want to.
That lady needs to do some search about what’s really going on in Gaza. She must look at the past 77 years, before she unconditionally repeats what her mainstream media spreads. She should’ve done some homework beforehand.
It’s so frustrating to listen to the dehumanising language that her war criminal leaders are spreading to justify the ethnic cleansing blood bath.
They should not have muted her.
Unfortunately, she just couldn't hear them and was adamant about vilifying Palestinians. It became unproductive. She didn't inherit her father's trauma so much as she has been indoctrinated.
I don't agree with the Egyptian lady who says that we need to post even if these posts are lies. Tgere is enought suffer, there is no need for lies and we do don't support lies at all.
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Sorry Dr Gabor 🙏
Dehumanising???
Not the ottomans ,but other empires did.
Best regards.
From the move Captain Corellis mandolin ...." I dont care about your politics if I see one man beset upon by another then that man becomes my brother, it becomes personal I will make myself believe it is personal" I DONT CARE ABOUT THE POLITICS I care about human rights violations... how many times as a human race will we have the opportunity to unite in love, clearly seeing that fighing and oppressing doesnt work.... and instead we continue fear based narratives of separation.. us vs them...
1:05:50 "If you build the world's biggest prison camp, which is what David Cameron called Gaza. He's no friend of the Palestinians, the former British Prime Minister. He called it the world's biggest open-air prison. Or the world's biggest concentration camp, which is what the Israeli sociologist Baruch Kimmerling called it, as well as Giora Eiland, who's still in power in the Israeli Occupation Force, 'the world's largest concentration camp' back in 2004. If you build an internment camp of that size, and you police it the way the Israelis have, and you deprive them, you brutalize them, you do all the things the Israelis have, you do not get to choose the nature of the prison gang that rises up to try and liberate its people."
the block is.... disempowerement.. its easy to cling to an easy answer ( us vs them blame game) and not have to dig deep within the self and take a moral stance.... combine fear, guilt and self loathing... = ripe for giving away power to an entity ism dictator...etc.. german people arent inherently "bad" they were a product of hyper chastising and poverty/survival.. self empowerement is hard.. here we are again us vs them good vs bad.. germans dont have the right to weigh in.. its not fair its not accurate.... the oneness is crucial right now
38:07 Gabor is 100% right! Germans haven’t learned a thing! But I don’t agree that Germans feel guilt. Mostly I recognise a feeling of content for being obliged to feel guilty. But n their minds they have accepted that their ancestors did wrong and they have payed for it and that should be enough already.
That Jewish lady Rifka its great to know wonderful person from Israel
Please try to remember that Palestinians said Those things for the Zionists only not
Jews dear ok
The problems Jews and Palestinians going through past 💯years is due to the arrival’s of the
Ashkenazi Zionists ( 1917 )
Finally please do remember for 500 years Christians+Jews+Muslims did live in peace under the ottoman’s wings
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Im hear because this stands as an example of whats happening in America as refusal to assimilate creates the very same dynamics within all nations ,people, places and things.
Some of us witnessed the time before penal systems and proper government in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc. As a kid beruit was an unbelievably different place, the place to be which is lite years away from that now.
It sucks but it highlights how even in the western global socialism at the expense of national hegemony cant have complete opposite ways of life devolping so separate to the point one becomes unrecognizable to the other.
Giving Hamas all the rope for this long is the only true wrong we as the rest of the world carry guilt on .
We knew it was coming but you wouldn't expect Palestinians launch those attacks on this administration and not the older passive left wing socialist administration.
All western nations in Europe, UK & America under 1900s structuralism has unfortunately all had complete refusal to assimilate within at the expense of underming it's own way of life and being ..
Unfortunately this has always been the ultimate outcome throughout history .
It doesn't matter what political or cultural order of the day ,all this does is gage the temper of which how hard or fast someone get re educate or genocided.
Harsh hands of meglamanic like syncrab or the Islamic conquest, the Roman Catholic or even ussr,Germany or modern China and their own encampments
Hermeneutics matters.
I struggled with Rifqa’s response on this. She had no intention of listening, she seemed to want to collect sympathy and hate on Palestinians. I honestly don’t think she will even try to understand the plight of the beautiful Palestinian people and the horrors they have suffered. She seems to believe she has more rights than the indigenous people, when clearly she’s a Zionist European or Russian. Her hate and false equivalency of Hamas and Palestinians being one and the same was unfair! The holocaust is a pocket excuse they use to hush everyone and as a pass/excuse.
I think it's really important that there's some compassion and space for expression though - if you've spent most of your time enmeshed in a particular culture and suddenly you're being asked to shed all the ideas that culture has conditioned you with, and which are important for your own identity, it's going to be a deeply shocking and destabilising experience. And I say that with having no experience whatsoever of my parents generation experiencing something as traumatic as the holocaust, or fearing that there are people in the world who want to exterminate me and my people. I imagine it's not too dissimilar a situation to the struggle most of us have coming to terms with how the cultures we've evolved are devastating the planet - if we truly let that truth permeate us, it means opening ourselves to letting go of a huge amount of things that we've been conditioned to feel entitled to. I wanted to hear more from her in response to what the Matés were saying, and have it unpacked a bit more.
@stumclellan5988 I understand where you're coming from but every human has a moral obligation to question what they've been taught, especially when what they have been taught is genocidal and causes harm to others. To refuse that self examination when the cost of it is so high is not something that deserves compassion. Compassion is for the oppressed.
Well, she was the only one in this whole video who didnt agree with the Gabor Mate Familiy. To hear other point of views seem to be very difficult for almost everyone here. So I guess this comment is gone be deleted anyway. ;-)
Just be very careful not to use this tragic situation for self promotion. Sincerity is the only thing that will bring justice
This starts to make me feeling sick. They deleted all the comments which didnt agree. Yeah, the world is so simple, good palestinians, bad jews. Do you really feel that it is that simple? It is embarassing!
Sorry but I am confused. Which comment have been removed? And please do not confuse Jews with zionists. That is one of the main propaganda topics that easily lead to antisemitism when people refer to antizionism. Jews and zionist are two very, very different groups.
@@scienceandnonduality So what exactly do you mean when you refer to antizionism? I looked it up in Wikipedia, here comes the definition:
" Although anti-Zionism is a heterogeneous phenomenon, all its proponents agree that the creation of the modern State of Israel, and the movement to create a sovereign Jewish state in the region of Palestine-a region partly coinciding with the biblical Land of Israel-was flawed or unjust in some way.[7]"
So what are the conclusions of Anti Zionism? Shall the modern state of Israel no longer exist? Shall all Jews in Israel people go back to.... I don't know?
Is that what you want? That is madness.
I understand that one can criticize certain aspects, like the settlement movement of right winged israelis in the west bank, the the governement of Netanjahu. (and in fact many Israelis critizise these things as well). And certainly all that bombing and killing of so many civilians in the gaza strip.
But that criticism doesnt mean to question the right of existence of the state of Israel, nor does it justify the horrible astrocities of the hamas terror organisation.
Yes it is that simple
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They should have given 2 minutes to Rifqa to say whatever she wanted to say before ending the conversation. It was rude how they treated her at the end.
No she needs to listen
She’s obviously brainwashed.
@@ra.h.8840 Everyone deserves respect.
It became unproductive. She was just too indoctrinated.
I am an Israeli.
Who deeply questioned the Zionist project. And lived with a deep faith in coexistence eventually being the lived experience here. Very partial to seeing the immorality of Israeli military power inflicting damage on a civilian population, not being a partner for peace. Influcting unbearable suffering on a vulnerable civilian population.
Post 07.10 I see things differently.
I still see the suffering and really feel the horror of that being reality.
I no longer put all the blame on Israel.
Hamas also bears responsibility, even when it is mosly Israeli military strikes destroying and killing.
Yes, Israel is using military might to devastating effect.
So did/is Hamas.
Calling for a ceasefire that is not negotiated is not going to bring peace.
Just like pulling out of Gaza without negotiations did not bring peace.
Hamas definitely puts it's highest value on fighting. And this is not a war that can be won militarily. Not by Israel or Hamas.
If you are more offended by how the oppressed resist oppression that's a YOU problem
I appreciate your pre October position. However, your post October position is tinted by Israeli propaganda because from the beginning, the Palestinian resistance in Gaza has wanted to negotiate and has been shut down over and over by the current Israeli government.
Giving up the Israeli hostages without securing freedom for the thousands of Palestinian hostages and a permanent cease fire will only result in a set up for the complete annihilation of the Palestinian population first in Gaza and then in the West Bank. Why would Palestinians put themselves in that position? Would you?
Watch grayzone and learn that most horror on that day was afflicted by IDF. H* was not aware of the concert and the aim was to have prisoner swap. They ve not raped any women or killed a child. You do your best not to be brainwashed but you really are.
Read about the March protest, without fighting, what did IDF do to the kids without weapons. Killing .
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Your channel name should be propaganda and peddler not science and nonduality
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