BREAKING: MOOG ONE DISCONTINUED R.I.P TO A LEGEND | THAT SYNTH SHOW | THAT SYNTH SHOW EP.122
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- Episode 122 OF "THAT SYNTH SHOW" Moog One is now discontinued, says Belgian synth retailer Turnlab.
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moog: one will be discontinued
Behringer : One moment, friend 👀
Lets Go Uli release the beast 👹
Behringer enters them room...😂😂😂
All hail Lord Uli
...the sound "when it worked..." Ha ha ha, Samurai! 😂
Hahahah 😂
@synthsamuraiproductions Even when it worked, the sound wasn't the best I've ever heard in an analog polysynth, especially when considering it's pricetag.
@kvmoore1 whats the best u ever heard?
@synthsamuraiproductions As far as new analog polyphonic synths go that I've actually played, I'm gonna be honest and say the Prophet 5/10 and Oberheim OB-X8. Of, course, those are based on classics. I'll put the Polybrute on the list, too, because it has a very unique sound, and it can sound very different from anything else I've heard, especially with the morphing capabilities.
So yeah, I'd rather pick those three synths over a Moog One, which would collectively exceed the cost of a 16-voice Moog One. However, I feel they're all worth their price based on sound.
@@kvmoore1 I have both the P-10 and the OB-X8, and your comment is spot on - The P-10 is my very favorite of all (I have two of them now) and the OB-X8 is my next runner-up favorite. I don't have any Arturia hardware yet, but the new PolyBrute 12 is hot on my radar. That and the TEO-5 will likely be my next additions.
There are TWO headphone sockets on Moog One. What most people don’t know is that you can use one of the headphone sockets as an audio INPUT bypassing filters so you can play along to backing tracks without a dedicated mixer ❤
Thats a pretty cool
Feature
guess cause of the price you need two owners
@michaelpierce3264 hahHahHHh
Aint gonna miss what i never had.
Amen 🙏
I’ll miss the opportunity to flip it for 30 thousand bucks in 10 years.
Bro looks like he's about to hit them ADSR slopes😄
Clooooose 🎿
Love my Moog One ❤ bought it in 2020 before the first global lockdown.
Dr Mix, Loopop and Lisa Bella Donna sold me on it.
3 great sales people for
Sure
@@synthsamuraiproductions. Loopop still working on his YT disclosure, tho.
Just say, “They sent me this unit to keep, provided I do a video review of it.”
Don’t try to hide/disguise the truth … !! 🙄
@kierenmoore3236 😂
@@synthsamuraiproductions Keepin’ it real, dawg. 😉🤜🏼🤛🏼 😄
Fo sho
Moog Two? I’m in! 😂
Great name 😂
Ha-ha, probably it will be “MOFAM” - Moog One From Another Mother… This time inMusic…
@serhiymarchenko8361 that would be hilarious 😂
Moog One owner since 2020.
Most people weren’t aware that PRIOR to 1.5, the sound was indeed flat BUT if you used the inserts as outputs (bypasses FX and VCA) you were greeted to the true sound of the One. After 1.5 (which took over 2 years) Moog fixed the sound.
Interesting… will buy the Boog One and do a comparison for us once released for us?
@@synthsamuraiproductions I choose to participate in reality ✌️
Hahahah 😂
@@synthsamuraiproductions moog one is that complex that it will take Behringer a decade to build it
@novalogue 😂 that seems right on schedule
"hello. I've pulled all my hair off trying to make this shit work."
Hahahah
I never understood the attraction to this septic tank of a synth. 😂🚽
Me neither
It has a great interface. A bunch of the UX gestures for it appear to be in the Muse based on the pictures of the panel we've seen. It's a bitter-sweet story.
I'm not going to be the type of person who dismisses this as too expensive. It seems like it had a good run, and I hope everyone who bought one enjoys theirs. I mean, there's synths in all price ranges nowadays, so I think things are good overall.
They sold a ton made a bunch of people happy and bunch of others pissed. So a successfully polarizing synth for sure. 👍
The best experience I had with a synth was in a shop, on Subsequent 37. Nice presets, amazing front command, and this warm sound, a "must have" before they stop it too!
I mean, Sad day for Moog Expensive One.
The MooG expensive one. 🪦 behringer Boog One incoming
it's a great synth in its current state. after they released the update with the calibration the tuning has been on point for me. it only took like 10 hours lol - unbelievable but it really is end game territory for analog polys and can get close to a lot of classics with how much flexibility it has
Too bad it got such a bad rap with all the issues
@@synthsamuraiproductions agree, oh well hopefully fools sell them cheap so regular people can start getting their hands on em. i paid alot but a good 40% off msrp before the updates
Expensive but definitely not overpriced. I love mine. I’m wondering if it will now increase in price. It’s already gone up quite considerably from when I bought it. Not that I'm selling it any time soon.
Id say price up for sure. Also Behringer clone incoming in 3…2…1…
Haha - I have the Boog Model D and the 16v One. I’ve definitely blasphemed against one of those companies but not sure which 😆
@danstirling7386 hahahahahHa
It is a work of art but the oscillators never sounded good to me and it was so buggy. Maybe the Muse will be the answer.
Work of art aesthetically. But the guts have issues 😂
same for me, i tried it 4 times in the shop, even after the updates, certain patches would just bug so much it was scary
@smartti1970 thats nuts for 8k
I think they simply realized about everyone who ever was going to buy one had done so. Somewhere around 4000 units sold so definitely a successful product for them. I continue to believe a 4 octave 6 voice 2 part Subsequent 37 around the price of the Sequential 6 voice synths would have sold a ton more, but Muse is roughly that so we shall see... Phase cancellation issues I do not think have ever been completely fixed, but close and MUCH better than before that patch.
We need the BOB-5
Never had an issue with mine and i have serial number 12. Bad ass synth. Probably wont ever sell it.
Be worth 20k soon
Did the pricing of the UBXA 16 voice at 10% of the Moog one contribute to its alleged discontinuation?
Nah. No one buying it did it
U know behringer got the Moog one clone ready right ?
Totally different price range and customers
I don't think they're in the same class. Like comparing a Chevy to a Rolls Royce.
@Andronicus2007 id take a chevy any day 😂 🇺🇸
It's a real shame that it got to this. It didn't have to be this way.
Whyyyy lord whyyyy!!!
Moog should have done what Sequential did with the take 5. Keep it at around $1500.00 so that people could actually afford them.
The BOB-5 they missed their shot
Perhaps the Muse is to the Moog One, just as the Take 5 is to the Prophet 5. But there is no way Moog will make a 5 voice analog poly synth for $1,500.00. I’d love to be wrong though.
With the Mini Moog at $5000.00, a mono synth, I don't think that could happen. We have the Matriarch today, which is probably one the best mono with Moog sound, so maybe think of Moog in monosynth thoughts, Moog has never been about the poly.
Actually, IMHO, all they needed to do was reproduce the MemoryMoog and add some updated features to it and they would have hit a total home run. Look at Dave Smith's success with the Prophet 5/10! With the M1, they attempted to reinvent every wheel ever made, and succeeded in creating a virtual support nightmare for themselves right out of the gate. The OP amps that the M1 uses (SCORES of them - 8 PC boards filled to the brim with them!) were discontinued about 2 or three years after the synth was released, and I haven't looked into it recently, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the extremely complicated XMOD digital network chips they used (that control the ENTIRE synth) were discontinued by now as well. It started as a truly grand idea, but frequently in life, "simple" is just simply the best option.
@@ByronHadley1 I wonder if anyone knows about the Moog One's sales in the last few years. I mean the synth isn't actually aimed at most of us. I wonder if all those that could afford the synth already bought it by 2024. Maybe the well healed market is already saturated.
Wow. I had no idea it was being discontinued. I happened to get mine for a pretty good deal. When they came out they were around 8. I got mine for 6,800. It was one that was a tested one at the store that a few or the synth employees played a ton and loved it. Definitely my 2md fav Synth after the Model D. I use the D for a nice fat sound and then layer the One on top to really fill out the sound. It’s awesome how cool both those synths sound together. And then I love making a track with a Voyager 808 dark bass sound and then put some ambient chords that are just layered with very little effects and it sounds massive. I never understood it’s controversy as mine has been a great exploration of what I can get out of it. RIP to a underrated synth I guess I can say since so many had issues with it. I fortunately made some music with it that I think I could only get the sounds from the Moog One.
Super epic combo of super sound. Now u need the muse baby!! Saw one for 3k
On reverb this week bstock
Not a surprise when you price it at $7k and it doesn’t end up sounding (in my opinion) as good as the Memory Moog, yet they made it look like one.
Behringer now: “Hold my beer.” Actually, B dropped a rendering a little while back of the “Memory,” so there’s hope for an MM recreation.
Yeah memory moog in the works
It has a different sound though. I found that the One just makes other sounds. I find it is really easy to create new unique patches with it.
Three layers (with split possibly) with INDEPENDENT arpeggiators and sequencers. ❤ BEAST
... with horrible issues that never got adressed. All for just 10k
@jumpingman8160 what a deal 😂
@@synthsamuraiproductions Worth selling your soul to Satan. What a one in a life time chance
I'm not that surprised. All the mega wealthy Moog enthusiasts have bought theirs by now.
True market is tapped
I’ve had my Moog One since they were first released. It’s amazing. Never had issues with it. I don’t understand all the dislike.
I think its cause 50% of them hsd issues. At 10k thats unacceptable. But the ones that worked people loved them. U gonna get the muse?
No desire to get Muse when I’ve got the One! Purchase price when I bought it was $8000.
EOL=End of Life 😢
Any truth to the rumor that you're now sponsored by a deodorant company? We all saw how you snuck that gross ad w/ the smelly armpit lady in there!
Hahahahahha 🤫
I played one at Guitar Center Hollywood. Omg that thing is a tank.
How was it? Majestic?
I tried to love M1 for over a year. I just never found the raw oscillators inspiring so it never pushed me into deep sound design. I've heard other people make great sounds on it tho but wasn't my cup of tea. Also many weird things going on with it (to many to list here).
I need a running list of issues so i can quote them when the moogies come after me
@@synthsamuraiproductions Few thins of the top of my head:
1. Creaky keybed that moog promised would get better with time. I know from a friend that has had the M1 since day 1 that it's still the same.
2. Noisy outputs. This was my experience and nothing I could do to fix it (gain stage/different cables ect).
3. Pitch issue that happened to number of units. Some moog ones were not tuned correctly in the lower part of the keybed, and Moog "fixed" this with some auto tune software that did indeed corret the pitch, but made the oscilattors very digital and lifeless as a side effect. (Tim Shoebridge went over this in a deep dive).
@skuggasveinn_music perfect logged and stored for battle. Appreciate it brother 😎
The poor fellow doing the livestream worked on developing the Moog One. Which means he’s been let go. earlier this year. Sad.
the firmware engineer should get blackballed from ever working with synthesizers again.
Devastating.
Anybody know who the firmware team are?
@@dennisflax I’m talking out of my a** here, so take it for what it’s worth. I would doubt that a single engineer was responsible for the firmware design, rather it would be a team made up of hardware and software engineers. We also don’t know what the time, the personnel and the QC testing restraints that were put on this team. Maybe it was incompetence by the firmware teams in not getting the coding right. Or it could be pressure from the marketing dept, or the bean counters to push an unready synth out to the NAMM or Super Booth shows. As outsiders, it’s hard to know.
It sounds good, but the bugs and a very high price killed it
5 years to make sold for six now EOL
It was going well untill that ad popped up I just couldn’t keep focus after that 😱
My God how nasty is that 🤮 😂
Whole body. All the cracks and crevices
Hahaha sooo nassssty
Insomma sembra proprio che non piaccia. Io l'ho trovato sorprendente ed è per me un riferimento ed una risorsa. E' un po' avanti come dispositivo e facilmente si ottengono suoni 'brutti', ma possono essere molto utili! Grazie
Dead lmao 😂 More then my armpits stink commercial
Hahahaha
😢. Huh, an overpriced behemoth??? Mixed feelings about it. Not sure how many awesome prevalent tracks used it
Can we name any? 😂 mike deans maybe
Doesn't this just mean Behringer is going to make this now so everyone can afford it? 🤔
Id say u are dead on
They lost all the skill to build and maintain it. I have one.
U gonna keep it??
Good it was a disaster my buddy sent his back four times the first year sad to see their flagship was such a pain he sold his for 5600 to get rid of it went and got a Jupiter lol lucky duck
So many people have had issues for so much money that aint cool
well dam
I’m not surprised because if the Moog Muse is really going to sell in the range of 4K to 6K , I don’t see those two synths coexist.
There can only be “ONE”
I would really liked to have had the chance to play around with one of these, no way I could ever afford one, and not sure if I'd want to actually own one. Having said that, the chance of ever owning one is gone now, the price will just go up from here.
Yup moog one 20k in 2 years
I saw and tried one at the Moog factory back in May. Majestic instrument that costs accordingly. Sad to see it discontinued.
You really think its worth that price?? Serious question. With the polybrute 12 $3999 it is sad. But competition so high.
@@synthsamuraiproductions Well, that is tough question. It is definitely outside of my reach price-wise, but, on the other hand, where else you can get 16 voices of Moog sound with 3-timbral capability, nice UI (a lot of knobs + big display as for Moog 😁) and instant recall (presets)?.. If they would managed to get price down to ~$5K it would be much more attractive… It looks like it was “hey, look what can we do with analog” kind of synth. Nice try they did, but we have so many options nowadays.
I think 5k or classic $4999 is fair for this beast 😂
I mean how many of us could afford a $10,000 synth. Not really sad on the demise of the Moog One. I guess the Muse will be in that ballpark of price. I hope not but I just have a hunch it will be above $5000. We’ll see. Time for Behringer to clone the one! lol.
They should announce it will be immediately on sale but comes with a replacement name badge ("Boog One") and for the new low price of $1500. Would be hilarious.
Behringer has done enough clones. Time to come with originals
@@LaurenceCousins-ov9tn very true
Moog One clone incoming
I worry their new business model will phase out all current/ more expensive to produce products and will transition to cheap to produce to cover the buying of MOOG.
Thats the idea i think. They failed before by not transition to a better business model
So the Moog One was made and sold for less time than they took to develop it? Or about the same time?
2018 released 2024 discontinued continued. 5 years made 6 years for sale 😂
It was just too expensive.
Way way expensive
There's no fkin way I would pay what they charged for these... it's a subtractive analog synth... it can't do anything that can't already be done with 99% accuracy with other synths.
Definitely pricey for what it does and issues it had. Looks pretty though
Very few choices in 16 voice analog synths. But for this poor boy, I agree with you. For my home studio I would have combined/layered synths by buying three synths for $3200 and had true stereo and digital/analog with: Two DeepMind12's desktops (monaural output left and right stereo field), and a HydraSynth Deluxe. Would be a monster of sound possibilities.
Thank you, I hate that commercial too, especially if I am eating dinner. Should be a warning before they play it.
Needs to be banned 😂
Finally. Maybe they will start bringing out MIDI synths. 😂
One can pray 🙏
Great synth
Classic already
2x price by 2026
Sounds Luuuuuuush. Unfortunate.
Moog muse coming if they nail it it will be better
Waste of money!💰
Yup
Always sad to see a synth with this much R&D and work put into its design disappear. Very sad. I have many synths, I would never been able to own a ONE. Since I orchestrate and layer my 17 synths the sound of each is not as important. These flagship models are what I would call stage synths, where your logistics are limited. One or two synths have to do it all. AND, your bands signature sound will depend on the synth you choose.
Great points. Man!! What are the 17 would love to know. Amazing man
@@synthsamuraiproductions Lost my vintage studio in a divorce of 2008, been building up since then.
1) Roland Gaia
2) Korg Minilogue
3) Korg Minilogue XD
4) Korg Electribe2
5) 1010 Music Black Box
6) Roland JunoDS
7) Korg Krome
8) Roland Fantom O6
9) Roland RD-2000
10) Roland E-A7
11) Kurtzweil PC4
12) Roland Gaia 2
13) Roland JP-08
14) Roland JX-03
15) Roland JD-08
16) Roland JX-08
17) Yamaha Reface DX
18) And a piano the Yamaha DGX-670
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene thats a legendary set up my brother.
@@synthsamuraiproductions Thanks Samuri. I took on Kurzweil's VAST architecture this year after hearing them boast about it for the last 35 years :) I love a challenge, keeps my old brain functioning sharply....well as sharp as possible :)
EOL = End of Life
Ahh 😂 got it now
Oh my Gosh ! It was a dream synth let down by a hard edgy overdriving sound and so many bugs (at 6mn29, I thought when a cheaper Grand-Mother does saw wave much better mmm ) ... fab in unisson mod though... let's hope The Muse will be a good One ! But still I would like One !!!!!
I big fan and routing for the muse
EOL (end of line)...in this context, they're saying "that is all, the end, nothing more to say"
Or "end of life".
That pile of crap needed to be discontinued. It was "One" of the most disappointing synths in my entire collection. Just wait until the insane amounts of internal heat those things generate start taking them out. Folks who have them then will wish they had never seen them.
well dam
Ooooh weeeee coming hot 🔥
That’s crazy., and ill informed
you need a cooler studio , perhaps 🤔
@@MarkoDeLaVoota So how long have you owned your Moog One?
It's a shame that they chose the Memorymoog design. The designer had much cooler ideas..
Yeah thats weird
Boog One.
Time for the Moog 2.
Skip 2 go to 3
EOL= End of Life.
Indeed it is for the moogie one
What? Already... That was quick.
Very quick
@@synthsamuraiproductions That's what SHE said...🥴
@ByronHadley1 woop woop
Did he say Moog Moose!?
Thought i heard it
PERFECT name for a synthesizer! It's damned sure a whole lot better than "Grandmother", or "Matriarch". WTF!
only the Hammond guys like the clicks
The hammond clickers
My guess it that the Moog muse will be released with a $5999 pricetag.
Ooh man thats steeep
@@synthsamuraiproductions I agree. But Moog being Moog makes me think they will price it close to the Moog one prices or even higher than that.
But my guess is around $5999.
@Sound.b581 im
Saying 3999$
@@synthsamuraiproductions We shall see when the time comes :)
I will still not get it even if the price ends up at $3999.
To much Money for a standard 8 voice subtractive synth now that we have so many great options for a fraction of the price.
The 3 Korg desktop Modules + The Rack is a much better option for versatility and you even have money left for cables and some other stuff + no waiting for the unit to warm up.
@Sound.b581 yeah i gotta trade up my keys for the module
I wonder if it was too much for the in music crew to deal with.
I think they cant reproduce the same quality ascetically ie wood metal knobs etc overseas so they can release a lower quality product. Plus they cant keep the thing tuned and cool. So they moving onto the muse which will be like an 8 voice moog one replacement hopefully with under hood and firmware sorted out. I also heard that a couple engineers resigned last week “allegedly”
@synthsamuraiproductions I bet there's a lot of micro management bs going on. You probably have some 21 year old woman in high heals telling people like Steve Dunnington how to build a better filter.
Behringer Uli One $299 soon in a music store near you.
Woof!!!
that synth is overrated
Seems to be the consensus opinion
It still is a very nice synth.
It’s quite widely hated so I’d say underrated 😆
@danstirling7386 hahaha
It's kind of like a modern Memorymoog with the issues worked out. But yeah, mega expensive, possibly used as a halo product for their more affordable synths. I would never buy one, it's just too much!
EOL = End of Life , its a tech industry term
Nice !!
I have a strong feeling, the Moog Muse will be better! It's all about evolution and makimg each successor be an improvement over It's predecessor.
I think the muse will be awesome
@@synthsamuraiproductions I do too!
Guess I won't have to take out that second mortgage to buy this boat anchor ⚓
Yup i can buy my skidoo now with a clean conscious
It is a work of art but the oscillators never sounded good to me and it was so buggy. Maybe the Muse will be the answer.