Our reaction to Miami Grand Prix Qualifying
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- Matt and Tommy return to discuss the Miami Grand Prix main qualifying session.
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Daniel is like crypto currency
It was the same at McLaren too. Washed for a season and a half and then wins Monza out of nowhere. Then back to being washed...
Pump and dump ?
actually he's way worse :D
You're a Yuki fan FFS at least admit your bias.
@@chromaticsoundco.7664Ricciardo at McLaren was a square peg in a round hole really, (even with his Monza win) but he was excellent with Renault. The car simply wasn’t as good.
Calling Danny not washed after 1 good sprint is exactly the same just in a different direction with people calling him washed after the first race this year.
Not really though, he held off Sainz the whole race and didn't loose a position. That shows he's still fast as long as the car is in the right window. I agree he needs to work on his consistency but it's not that black and white.
He had a pretty good race in China until Stroll Strolled, and was ahead of Yuki the whole weekend. I don't know what happened in Qualifying, but outside of that session he's been a lot better after the Chassis change, which I doubt is a coincidence if the difference is that great.
Tbf a lot gave him a good go before deciding either way... this 1 good performance won't save him though.
He’s washed as a driver. Give Liam the seat.
@@axelode45 so he has to have very special conditions to be good? also this track sucks and makes it hard to pass
Tsunoda going from 18 to 8 in the sprint is equally as impressive. How did he even do that?
it was from 15th
He was in 15th then 3 people in front of him were in that accident. So really it was 12th to 9th but still good. Hamilton got a penalty which is why it shows 8th.
starting on the softs certainly helped
@@Myusername468Yuki had three cars crash infront of him and another two received penalties. I know he passed K-Mag but it wouldn’t have matter even if he was behind him
It reminds me of his performance in Australia.
False fanatic of mediocre ridiculous driver
4:48 ahhh yes that is definitely K Mag
😂😂😂😂
VCARB have 1 good chassis and alternate it between the two drivers. Which is why they both are never good at the same time 😂😂
😂😂
As an American I was just happy Logan didn't finish last!
I just want him to do well and enjoy his last home race before he inevitably gets thrown out of F1 for the rest of his life. Literally the nicest guy and what a great ambassador for American racing, but bro...can you please just try to be like a little quicker please for the love of god I'm begging you 🙏
at least he can't be called washed when he was never dirty
I can't find a way to support him or Gene Haas, my only hope is Andretti can find his way in despite Toto's complaints.
@@jakeroberts3070 I like everything that Haas stands for except for Gene, fuck that guy. Haas causes me so much cognitive dissonance because I was a big supporter of Guenther and I'm so optimistic about Komatsu, I like the idea of a broke-ass organization trying to scrap their way through with duct tape and hopes and dreams, I want a successful American team. But fuck Gene Haas that neglectful charlatan.
P10 Alex P14.
F1 needs to stop holding races in parking lots in the US.
Edit: the other one that comes to mind is the Caesars Palace Grand Prix
Sorry guy, 🇺🇸 is keeping F1 from bankruptcy 😂😂😂😅... Euro dorks are poor.
Parking lot was the old Caesars palace grand prix.
I hate the Miami circuit, it's really bad...If Florida must have a grand prix...Daytona road course!?!? Otherwise let's be fair, COTA is pretty great and Las Vegas is surprisingly good as long as the drain covers stay down. The other two North American tracks at Montreal and Mexico City also pretty great (I love Montreal's circuit...) Take Miami out of the equation and North America is offering F1 really good circuits. Better than the middle east.
The chicane and then turn 16 suck. The rest of the course is fine.
I think that the bigger issue is that it so hot, the track surface is low grip and the soft tires can’t even last a lap and that is the making of a trash set up.
These tires that F1 is asking of pirelli are terrible. The racing is more about managing tires than it is about racing.
Agreed 😅
reminder daniel will start P20 as he will still need to serve his grid drop penalty from china for overtaking during the safety car period and then getting strolled out of the race before he could serve that penalty
Lol
Typical CCP mentality the stewards had....
@@Redlingstein how exactly was it undeserved? He made a mistake by overtaking under the saefty car because he forgott that other people could overtake him because he went very slow and had obvious damage
@@heldenfan2354he overtook under The Safety Car because he got overtook Hulkenberg back after being hit by Stroll
@@LFC1PG yes and he wasn't allowed to because the regulations clearly state that you can't overtake under the safety car UNLESS the car in front has an obvious problem or drives unnecessary slow. Botg of those exceptions applied when Hilkenberg overtook Daniel none of those applied when Daniel took the place back. It's pretty simple and a completely warranted penalty he just made an assumption that he can take the place back without consulting the team etc
I think the thing that needs to change is people moaning that a sport is a sport. Sometimes you get competitive sessions or sessions filled with craziness and other times it's more predictable or boring if you want. That's the nature of the game unless you move towards a fully scripted hunger-games/WWE format for every session and I really hope we never do, because even then people will become complacent and demand ever more entertainment. So please do not let the tik-tok generation dopamine junkies prevail.
You pushing a 100 or something wrote like someone in the ww1 era.
@@onenormalguy2269 Dude, go get your brain some wrinkles. This is not a tough read at all
@@onenormalguy2269You proved his point.
That intro 🤣🤣love you guys thanks for the laughs
@4:47 THAT'S NOT EVEN K-MAG!!!
As Brundle said, apparently Kmag went too far for racing hard but Lewis plowing into other cars and using them to slow his out of control car is just fine racing. There's no fairness or consistency.
Brundle is cheering on sky Hamilton f1
Because he did. As a driver in front, you can run another driver wide, but he must stay on the track himself. Otherwise, he's forcing the other car off the track. Lap one turn one the stewards never give penalty for because all the car are close together, also the gap Lewis went for was big enough plus the car's around him was already having an incident that made them unpredictable of what they will do. It's context you need to take into account
@@chriscollins550 true, when there is only 3 cars wide in a corner, then there is more than enough of a gap to go for
@@chriscollins550 friendly reminder to you that Sainz got a penalty in Austrlia last year for a "lap1' turn1 iccident, similar to this. It was after one of the re-start, but technically it was in the first lap. Consistency is missing here.
@veca4ever5 no because it wasn't no longer lap one they still count down the laps and as it's a re start lap one has been removed they are starting on what ever that lap was I can't remember. Also, Hamilton didn't just run into another car. Stroll turned into Alonso, Alonso reacted and turned away from stroll they hit, Lewis and that pint has no time to react to Alonso car and that's why the stewards didn't give Lewis a penalty after reviewing it. It is consistent. Also, you can't say every incident is the same because they are not. You always need to see the data and more different camera shoots.
Love the intro
Almost gave me an epileptic attack 😅
@@MMAli-rq8kd especially when watching it at 3/4am
@@FarmerEnvoyXtremeYeah 5 AM for me 😅
Less exciting than quali😂
Can I just say how much I'm loving this race's livery for Team RB (or "The Artists Formerly Known As AlphaTauri")? Absolutely beautiful...
I like it too, the head-on view really echoes classic late 80's/early 90's liveries.
New format idea for sprint weekends:
Friday: 1 practice session & Qualifying for Sundays main race
Saturday: sprint race, reverse grid based on Fridays quali order
Sunday: main race (using normal Friday quali order)
Get rid of sprint qualifying. Reverse grid sprint race on Saturday based off Fridays quali would prevent sandbagging in qualifying as you still need to qualify well for the main race (majority of points)
Throw in ‘all tyre compounds mandatory’ for main race. It would spice it up for sure
Sepang and Hockenheim no longer in the calendar, but look on the bright side, we have a GP in Miami. How exciting!!!! Honestly only people who don't know a thing about F1 attend this race.
What a stupid comment. The quality of the track does not make someone a race fan or not. A fan will attend any race.
Because no true fans live in Florida, amirite? Just DTS fans.
/s
mate the us is huge they need more than 1 race sure miami might not be an amazing layout but american fans shouldnt have to travel twice as far to watch a race in person just cause miami's layout isnt amazing
The sport is growing. It’s time for you to grow up too.
Is it possible to be a die hard f1 who’s been watching the sport since 1997 and still love the dts series? 😂😂
Logan missed Q2 by .035, so it's not like he missed by a ton. He hits the brakes a hair later in a couple turns and he's in Q2. And .044 behind Albon, not even half a tenth of a second, that's not bad. As for the rest of qualifying...did the teams inadvertently get handed old tires? Because what was going on? Though Stroll outqualifying Fernando twice in one weekend is nice.
The track overheated the tires becuase of time of day and air temp.
Happy to get the alert! Cheers Gents
watching this after the actual gp is crazy
I found this quali session to be captivating because the track conditions were so challenging. The times didnt ramp up at the end of q3, oh well, it was still exciting to see them struggle for it.
I don't think this current format hurts the quali. I do think it hurts the sprint race. Leclerc even said in the post sprint race interview that he didn't want to push too hard and risk damaging his car and being out of the main quali. Under the old sprint saturday setup drivers could push hard during the sprint since if they had a crash the team would have overnight to fix it.
@@Redlingstein That is a fair point, but surely you would have significantly more time. Sprint started 12, quali started at 4. The race starts at 4 the next day. I don't know how late they can stay, or how early they can come in, but it's got to be 3 or 4 times more time for them to work.
Only one VCARB is allowed to be fast at a time! Super secret new rule in effect this year!!
race will be better than sprint. different strategies, battle for midfield/lead, & tyre deg/pit stops. Not to mention T1 lap 1 incidents
The real action will be from P10 to P15..
All the more reason why points need extending to p12
More like DRS train action😂
Any chance that y'all could do a bit regarding the Concessions prices at the race this weekend. Feel like this needs to be talked about more from the media.
This should be the mandatory intro
1:50 there’s no trick missing, we’re just missing a fight for pole. Where any sessions any of 2/3 drivers can go for pole. At the moment we are 99.999999% sure its max on pole especially since his teammate is not up to par
Tires - thats what made the difference. E.g. Yuki spent a sprint race on rhe softs - extra info for him hence his pace!
You got to hand it to leclec. One tenth off Max without any upgrades
That intro sounded like Siri back in 2011 😂
2:20 Counterpoint: 2022 São Paulo, the only time where I was happy to see absolutely nothing happen for 8 minutes!
Dream sprint weekend format:
Friday FP1 followed by 12mins SQ, then the sprint race in the evening. (W/ EXTRA SOFT TYRES)
Then Saturday and Sunday are normal GP weekend!
Q1 is close most of the time because of the amount of cars on track plus the ever-evolving track conditions from having 20 cars in the running.
Logic is not as common as you think
New sub' here boys....really enjoying the content.. 👍👍
I liked when the sprint decides the grid for the race, it makes it more competitive and more meaningful
LOL Danny Ric's reaction tho.
I still think that this sprint format is awesome. Friday: FP1, FP2. Saturday: SQ, SR. Sunday: Q, R. After SR no Parque Fermee.
I feel good with this sprint line up. Now you can change the car if it’s not right for the sprint after one practice and the sprint is full on racing instead of being careful bc you start where you finished like in the past.
I knew the Daniel sprint quli was a fluke. Yuki my boy, just doing his thing and out-qulifying the old man. All is right again.
Loved the opening, Magnussen is the new MoD and I hope DR3 Can find a way to keep his momentum!
I still dislike the sprint races, this one was great solely because of Magnussen.
We need this intro every video
I can seen someone starting on softs if they plan to try and get some places at the start and then pit on lap 3 or so to try and get out of the DRS train everyone is predicting. I definitely can see some people starting on hards especially people like Riccardo who are at the back. This will be allow them to be in the DRS train and then push hard when the medium runners pit.
Start on soft and immediately stop for mediums at the end of lap1. The softs will be burnt out after the installation lap and the first race lap!
Ricciardo will try it
i think people dont know what they want with the sprint format. You cant guarantee every session is going to be exciting, but what you can do is introduce controlled chaos (aka, sprint quali and sprint race) in to a regular weekend so that there is more chance that a race weekend isnt a formality.
Just woke up to find my question got answered cheers lads 😅 it's makes logically sense now
Need to go back to setting the grid for the feature race based on the sprint results.
A big issue with the sprint format for me is time, 32 now with a toddler, and I can't spend all my weekend watching 2 whole qualifying sessions and 2 races, I've been making use of CZcams highlights more and more
KMAG is looking suspiciously like Hulck. Bold strat to get better performance out of the car
The proper way to go is to have only one qualifying that defines the grid for the sprint and the actual GP - only that in the sprint the top 10 positions are reversed. So P10 starts first ect.
Q1 the first 19 were within a second! Take that in, in what other season was this the case! And still Max gets on top, which makes it in my opinion more special!
thats the thing i dont understand, over the past few years we have had some amazing racing yet everyone say its boring because Max/RBr are winning.
@@karlash3769 just ignore the loud brits and suddenly F1 is less toxic again
I hope that this dud of normal quali lowers our expectations so we get a banger race and everyone is happy :).
15:30 it is more that the soft tyres were overheating (shoker, Pirelli still hasn't fixed this) and so similarly as quick as the mediums, working better
The medium and softs weren't that close as you two are suggesting. That is the track changing. You could clearly see it with Norris going onto the mediums and directly after he had to use the softs to not get knocked out of the session. I don't know if it was just temperature dropping or the wind. But something really had a big impact on the times and it wasn't the rubber.
The softs don't work on that McLaren, these changes they have slapped on the car could also affect their tire deg in a negative way. That's what I am expecting, fast on medium but slower on the softs and not a little.
I think in sprint they should implement reverse grid where the drivers gets point on no. Of overtaking they do give them 1 or .5 points which bring more action but lets have open discussions on this idea
Have a query...
Norris did his soft lap at the time everyone did their second soft lap and they went slower. Could Norris have got closer to top of he had done his soft lap with the others and not do his medium?
Qualy really does need to have assigned tires per round like the sprint does and it 100% needs to be shorter so it's more chaotic. At least then we can get some mix ups going on and it clearly still doesn't hurt the more consistent guys much/if at all.
6:21 i said exactly the same thing!
If we want wheel to wheel racing we might have to start Kevin Magnuson as pole sitter automatically for every race
MinRB just have one Red Bull spec part, the drivers have to alternate. Danny got it for the sprint, now it's Yukis time to have it ^^
They say it literally on the tin "Red bull gives you(ki) wings"
Can they just bring back the tyre allocation quali from last year? Q1 hards, q2 medium, q3 softs, it made some exciting qualifiers
Oh my, the logical leaps people make for Daniel Ricciardo. lol!
Q3 actually showed us that teams dont understand the tyres here and that may put their strats in jeopardy. Adds a sense of mystery to the main race. Softs didnt hold up for 2 laps, mediums barely lasted 19 with a SC.
Quali was as it should, reflects the machinery, logan managed to excite me a bit...
Is sprints are 10 PTS for first and 0.5 PTS for last you'll get racing and different strategies.
We need reverse grid instead of sprint quali + add extra session!
Regarding Lando, do you think they tried the Medium because his SQ2 time was faster than Max’s sprint pole time on softs? Is it possible the track fell off at the end of quali based on rubber on track actually lessening from the sprint race earlier in the day?
Yeahhh baby!!!
What do you guys (I mean in the comments) think about potentially rearranging the format to:
- practice 1
- sprint quali (Friday) -
- quali (Saturday first event) -
- sprint race (Saturday main event) -
- race (Sunday)
So essentially switching quali (for Sunday) and sprint race.
I’m maybe thinking that most people ended up watching both events on Saturday in the end, so why not have the (arguably) more entertaining event as the main one?
Why not the following for the sprint: start in reverse order. And drivers are not driving for points, but for a higher budget-cap or more time in the windtunnel. The sprint would be amazing and the race would be what it should be, a decent f1 race with lots of tactics and unknowns.
So what happens if there is a massive pile up if KMag decides to block the faster cars behind him? May look spectacular but the mechanics won't be too pleased at having to rebuild the cars for the proper qually with only a few hours to go!
Where did Tommy get that T-shirt?
Where do we get tommy's tshirt?!
0:40 I bet they're not saying the sprint was better now.
Do we think Pirelli have allocated the wrong tyre compounds for this weekend? Did they need to bring their hardest range to this circuit? Seems that way to me!
JUst use normal QUalification the result of this qualification have in Sundays but use the reverse result in Saturday, so Max position 1 in Sunday and Max Position 20 in Saturday Sprints start the problem finish
or just use that reverse Qualification Saturday Max Sprint in position 1 and in Sundays Max in Strart Positions 20
problem finish
Yea I like that but the drivers don’t
Solution for sprint, maybe... Friday FP1, Sprint grid based on reverse top 10 championship....., Saturday FP2 GP QUALI, .... Sunday Grand Prix
Better solution: no sprints at all.
12:24 Wrong. Checo, Norris, Hamilton, Hulk and Tsunoda all improved on their 2nd run.
Norris 😂 médium soft
I quite often prefer the short balls to the wall sprint race.
Sprint races should be based on where you are on the leaderboard. I.e if your top you start last and if your last in the standings your first. No qualifying for it just your leaderboard position
Great. Even more gimmicks for a sport which has lost so much of its soul with stupid gimmicks like DRS and sprint races.
Quali wasn't boring, one of the smallest mistakes means you drop a lot.
However it'd make more sense if the starting grid for the main race is determined by the outcome of the sprintrace.
Not completely fair for drivers like Alonso and Norris who got shot out by Stroll/Hamilton.
In Qualifying it’s mostly your own mistakes that cost you positions.
@@Mortimer992 Isnt that what we want to achieve, leave i a little different than what there already is?
@@PatQuakernaat different yes but keep a certain fairness. What if your on course to get to the front of the sprint race and therefore qualifying to the front row when your are pushed out by someone else doing mistakes.
Bring back the original sprint format maaannn
Why don't they make each team have to use a different tire grade for each quali rd. So teams like williams and teams at the back will start on softball and teams like red bull will decide to gamble on when to use mediums and hards in order to have softs for quali 2 or 3. This would forsure reward people like Russell and Charles who would be more aggressive and try to save the sorts to off set Max if possible
How about switching normal quali ahead of sprint.
So we can have both Sprint Race and Normal Race back to back
They can't do that unless they change parc ferme rules again. Right now teams can make set up changes after the sprint, ahead of Qualifying and the Race on Sunday.
I dont matt, im unchanged in my disapproval of both sprint and drs...both are constructed to be fake competing for apeasing moaners sake and it destroyed the old wheel to wheel for laps we had
Amen. Both are shite 'fixes' to make F1 more 'exciting' and 'closer'. Yeah, right.
The starting position for the race should be the end results of the sprint and get rid of two qualifying sessions. Imagine Daniel Ricciardo in 4th to start the race!
i'd much rather fp1, fp2, qualifying, sprint w/ some sort of flip, and grand prix
I dig this format. Two full practices to gather data, regular quali, reverse grid sprint race, regular GP.
Maybe we could all understand that sometimes this is how racing is. We're not always going to have edge of the seat entertainment.
KMag out in Q1 but you showed Nico's picture
Ocon got an engine problem in straight line as he said in interview. Losing 0.15s because of this power cutting :/
This channel is the best. All other channel are very biased and always pro British drivers, always making excuses for them.
Your objectivity is why this is the only f1 channel I like to watch.
Calling it now: the sprint race IS going to turn out to be better than the main race. The main race will just be all DRS train with nothing happening in the way of interesting strategies and only a handful of overtakes. No real battles to speak of. If we're lucky we might get 1 virtual safety car but that will be all.
Tires could def be the key to an exciting race tonight. The way the Softs literally died half a round in could cause some serious chaos if we don't see 20 cars going Medium - Medium/Hard - Hard over the whole race
This makes Max' charge through the field last year even more impressive
nice
K.Mag complaining about traffic...🤪🤣🤣🤣
For those of us who watch on F1TV, can someone please teach James Hinchcliffe about F1! Straights are not called straight-aways; it’s Ocon, not Oh-con, and Bottas, not Boat Ass. Fml 🤦🏻
i rlly expected a battle at the end. cockblocked by miami 🙃
Its honestly the worst track on the calendar..
Also ridiculously hard to overtake without a crazy top speed difference
no soft tires in the race
Alpines getting out of Q1 finally
One shot qualy for the sprint would be so much better. Sprint qualy and qualy feel the same, taking away from actual qualy.
No Tsunoda appreciation ofc. Tough pill to swallow no? 👏 👏
Frankly the Sprint wasn’t up to much. How many overtakes ?
Is it crazy to think that they didn't give Daniel a new frame at all, but simply swapped the cars.
Was the sprint actually good or was it just that Magnessen deliberately broke the rules to stay in fromt? Otherwise, what happened?
Why not have different sprint formats for different races?