Shifter: Notes on Photography 6
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2021
- The only thing that matters is the end result. The negatives. The take. As they say, you can't hide from your contact sheets. Unless you bury them, maybe. The "Good Old Days," weren't nearly as good as we want them to be but there were aspects of the lifestyle I miss. This image, and the rest of this series, are still palatable to me for one reason. I look back on them with regard to the timeframe and the lifestyle I was able to live while making these images. No computer, flip phone, and no internet presence influencing those between moments. And nothing shared in real-time. It was bliss and we didn't even know it.
This is works for me because I think it represents my Leica years and the style I lived with during that time. Short to medium lenses. Film. And just keep going into the field. Same places, same story. Build, build, build. Move on. - Zábava
Absolute Genius ...brilliant. Your Videos are addictive Daniel. Cheers Ian, Leicester. UK.
The more I watch your videos, the more I realize that almost every other photographer on youtube knows absolutely nothing about photography
Well, I'm not sure about that but thank you for the compliment. I think a lot of people on CZcams are NEW to photography. And if your primary goal is to be a CZcamsr you kinda have to throw out anything that doesn't get subs. It would be an exhausting situation to be in whether you are selling photography, cycling, overlanding, fishing, or anything else.
You may be right but we may never know - it seems most of photo CZcams wants to talk about gear, not photography.
Excellent Dan, thank you for sharing!
I love this series, I can't wait for another. Really educating, showing what a good interesting photo should look like.
I'm working on the next one now. It's a good image, at least I think so.
just bloody excellent, thank you
Absolutely love your self-deprecating humour.
Its what gets me through the day...
Wow, maybe the best of the 'notes' series until now for me. I can really relate with the part about the 'feeling' where all starts to match while shooting. Big hugs from Italy, hopefully you'll return here someday!
Luca! Yes, I'll be back. Aiming for Albania in September, to teach, so I'll be close but don't think I'll quite make it to Italian soil..
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I'm optimistic for next time so :) If you will share some info about your workshop (?) in Albania I cannot exclude to attend. Let's see time (and pandemic) constraints: for sure it would be great.
Always inspiring and informative. Thank you for taking the time to put these together. They make my week when they hit!
Cool. Glad you are finding something good.
Fantastic image.
Loved this so much I watched this twice.
The sign of something good maybe..thanks for that.
Dan. I love your films. Please do not stop posting more content like this. I absolutely love it
No plans to stop as of today at 10:48AM. Tomorrow, never know....
Great insight.
This is one of the best photography series! Please dont stop!
I've got a few more coming...
Thank you for sharing Dan. Those bookcase angles are right on. The story of your photo is fascinating, especially the fringe elements and then that feeling that something special will happen. Paying attention to spacing is going to be my goal, yeah that and getting my ass out to shoot.
Spacing....man. So critical I think and yet I've never really seen ANYTHING about this.
Another gold nuggett
Good hearing your discussion of process: I learned a few things! Nice image! A few years ago I would have cropped out the guy close to the left edge, but more recently feeling it adds tension. I think looking at Egglesten shifted (!) my thinking.
Love the "show and tell" opening....makes me feel like I dropped in for a visit.
Thank you!
I come from the "no crop" newspaper world, so it's engrained to try and shoot "right" in the field. I want to do a lot more of these films. They are some of the only things that matter.
That bookshelf looks actually pretty dope.
I can't believe I still have it and can't believe they let is near power tools.
Milnor, you’re stylin in that Peaky Blinders look. Great episode as always.
Peaky FUC^%$# Blinders. Love that show. I did it myself!
@@DANIELMILNOR505 👍🏻
"Shooting the fringes": Bill Allard also loved doing this type of photography.
I had a "'moment" with him once at an event where my work was being shown. A good moment. He's a legend.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Awesome! I'm a fan as well. I have 3 of his books.
Oh, I did!! (Enjoy it, that is) - as always!
I am just a happy amateur, but just bought a second M6 body, perfect for my (only) two M-mount lenses, 35 and 50. Don’t need more than that!
That should last for the rest of your life....congrats.
New to the channel. I love it!
Welcome. Glad you are here. Don't be shy.
Alright Milnor. I'm getting a bead on your humor. "At least I have that going for me."
Carl Spackler!
This kind of episode is valuable. Thanks! Ever considered episodes where you analyze subscriber submissions? Could be fun and allow people to learn.
I have. And I've done a few. But, my schedule is so packed it feels just outside my capability at the moment.
You're the man, Dan. Thanks for providing the entertainment, insight and knowledge. Look forward to the next one! (Your efforts to re-record are seriously appreciated.)
I'll get it right, someday.
This was great. It made an impact on me. Great moment. Thank you Dan.
Greetings from Pakistan. 🇵🇰 . Big fan.
Pakistan is HIGH on my list my friend. I have always wanted to go. Someday......
Great vid. Be cool to see what came before and after
Magic.....a great place and time.
For me it might be (Fuji) 50mm... but I will give some time to the 35mm F2 (50mm equivalent ).... anyway ..... thank you
You had me at Louis L'Amour - During my youth he's books were placed on my shelf alongside Alister Maclean, Hammond Innes and slightly above James Hadley chase. Thanks for the refreshing content.
Oh, I've got new names now. Wow. Thank you.
inspiring as always.
It’s most interesting what you said about your feelings, as the two situations that I too feel this is shooting pictures, and as a musician and playing music.
So pleased to hear you talk about this, as I’ve said to so many people, when things are working there’s a powerful bodily sensation and excitement.
If it’s not going to excite or move you at the time, then it’s not going to move or touch anyone else.
Like it a lot !
I think that is perhaps why not many folks speak about this. It's personal and difficult to share. And not something you can sell. I would also agree with your music connection.
thank you for sharing this story
Your photograph is a good example of when all the elements come together. Composition/lens/film stock/dev mode/black and white/weather. One of my most admired photographers is Don McCullin, his work follows a similar pattern. It is also a testament to the use of black and white, how it renders the scene without extraneous details.
Unreasonable Behavior. Great autobiography. And he was one of my favs too. Quite a dude. I used to live for finding ways of putting myself in these situations. I miss it.
Perfectly right on spacing,... on Louis L'Amour,... and in your conclusion. Cheer up !
Good guy, bad guy and gold!
Enjoyed this, thanks for sharing, nice to consider the merits of a picture rather just giving it a like or love heart. Have a great weekend.
When you consider that 80% of traffic on some networks are bots....ya. Means more.
Great analysis of an epic image Dan. Thanks!
Gracias!
Great intro!
Reminded me a bit of when I first "discovered" you via your work on similar procession(s) in New Mexico. I think it was on a site of yours, Smog Ranch, to which I somehow was linked via a Leica=oriented website. Nice work all around!
That might have been a film made about me in 2007 ish. I was shooting Leica then and did cover a procession here in New Mexico. Thanks for the note.
wondering if you've had the chance to read any of cal newport's books. imho, his philosophy of 'deep work' vs. 'shallow work' parallels your philosophy of 'content' vs. 'photography', and the dangers of social media, distractions, and the growing inability to concentrate and focus for long periods of time... great video, as always!
No but I think someone else recommended him. Hmmm, need to research this.
I remember you hitting Sicily after Perpignan! Good way to wash off the pretense of a week at Visa.
Same for N. Africa. Sit in the sand and cry away the layer of "concerned photographer." It never quite worked until the free drinks on international flights on the way home.
Do you sometimes crop your images, and if you do is this one full-frame? The reason I ask is that you mentioned the center of interest in the picture is the left half, bottom 80% or so. I did finger-cropping to see how it would have looked cropped tighter and it worked like that too, at least based on the small view I had. So if you do crop from time to time, what in the periphery made you decide to stay wider than that central area of interest? If you don't crop then the question is moot of course. Either way, it really is a nice image and you caught everything at just the right moment. (Cartier-Bresson approves.)
Great question. This is somewhat total nonsense but I rarely, rarely, rarely ever cropped. I was taught not to crop and to print full rebate so that the viewer knew there was no cropping. This makes things harder, as you know, and I've set aside images I could have printed, but I still work this way 99% of the time.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I tend to crop as needed, but keeping images full frame isn't necessarily nonsense. It's a constraint imposed on the process and constraints - for me at least - actually help with the creative process. Unlimited possibilities can lead to mental vapor lock. I think composing for a fixed frame size slows down the process - a good thing in documentary work.
Could you do a video talking about shots you missed/were too scared to take.
Sure.
Can we see the contact print to this roll ?
That is a good question. I'm not sure I have a proof. It might have been during the time I wasn't proofing. Just editing off negs. I'll check.
I like that there’s some space and “air” in the image.
“Get closer” is terrible general advice.
Technically, this is almost a street image....
I made that same fucking shelf… yours looks better than mine, kudos.
And we both have our fingers! Win!
I highly recommend reading "Education of a Wandering Man" by Louis L'Amour. It's a fantastic read!
Ahh, will add that to list. My father got me started, and my cousin Tom.
Love your content! Okay I rarely read but you got me on Louis L’amour!! What should I read, that’s a book series in your video?
I post all my reads on my site. Shifter.media. I'm all over the place but you might find something interesting.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 thank you!!
I’m very curious how you processed tmax3200 as it’s a film I never liked the results from when I darkroom printed it.
I used so many different techniques over the years it would be difficult to narrow it down. And each with its own small tweaks. Hard to go wrong in Xtol. Keep it down the middle of the road until you better learn the film. Scanned it prints beautifully. Darkroom is a real challenge.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I’ll keep trying when I want to experiment. I mostly use Tri x and Rodinal and get a very dense negative for the enlarger.
you said nobody seems to be doing this kind of work any more - this might be a reason for you to do a riff on what magnum photographers get up to these days...eg have you seen any of the work they did during the pandemic ? some of it is extraordinary / powerful stuff
I'm sure there are people working and doing great work. My life is headed in new directions now so I rarely look at what is happening in the industry. I have seen some incredible work done by non-professionals who were working on the front lines.
I think we’ve given up a lot of our freedom...
Haven't we already heard a talk about this image?
Maybe. I wasn't in my CZcams series but might have been somewhere else.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Still worth a second watch.
BTW, I'm looking forward to more of your photo critiques with Marc Silber at AVP
unrelated to you: Whats with everyone saying "to be honest"? please be honest! Do people assume they are liars or do they lie most of the time. I don't get it.
I appreciate the video.
I think it’s affirmation. It’s like “quality used cars” Why do we need the adjective?
I think it's just habit of vernacular. That is also a phrase that sets my high alert monitor but most of the time people are just doing it out of habit.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Seems about right. One more question; quick thoughts on the Kona rove DL if/when you have time.
Digital umbilical. Isn’t that the truth! Since I removed Instagram and severing that umbilical, because after taking a great photo you feel compelled to share it. I couldn’t give a stuff if people like my work. I don’t even like my work.
Yes, it's nice to not have that gene. Same applies for all my projects and collaborations. So many haters out there you just have to do what feels right and keep leaning forward.