The USL Could TAKE OVER the MLS 🤯🇺🇸
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- čas přidán 19. 07. 2023
- The USL is trying to compete with the MLS' popularity by adding a promotion and relegation system that could be implemented in 2025. USL thinks with the arrival of Messi to the MLS, the USL could go down under, but with the addition of promotion and relegation, they could stay afloat.
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The USL is the “people’s league”. DCFC supporters would not support an MLS team in Detroit. We draw 7,000+ per match and are building a new, soccer-specific stadium to accommodate the growth of the club. MLS is too corporate and will never capture the magic of USL.
Sorry to tell you buddy but MLS have more finance so if team can get players like Messi , or a Neymar or big names like this it will always draw bigger crowds so more eyes on the product
7k, wow, a few more and you can have a kids birthday party.
@@ccramityou can make your snarky social media slavery comments all you want but the original commenter is 100% correct. MLS is corporate af and in a horrific identity crisis while USL is for the fans🙌🏻
yeah i aggre i see my club loisville city pull 10,00 people per game
After 2 seasons of promotion/ relegation and the hype it produces, Americans will fall in love with it.
Americans don’t want to be European that’s why we don’t have Pro/Rel in any of our leagues and they do good, if not better than some Euro leagues. USL will not be anything I can promise you that.
@@brazyiee9145 weird take, but ok.
Strongkickman I agree with you.
The USL will succeed because the MSL is just a retirement league for sunsetting European footballers. Americans want our men's soccer to be exciting with American stars like the ladies soccer. The females are household names. And what better way to make American male soccer a household item than to create narratives around hometown players on the rise in America. The only American male player that I know of is Christian Pulisic. And where is he?
Male athletes who could dominate American soccer are allergic to that loser male sports that won't pay to keep talented players on American soil. Can you imagine the greatest baseball, football or basketball player being poached by Europe, Asia or South America? Poached in their prime? Because the American pro leagues are delusional and believe they can do without them? MLS is a joke to most Americans.
I say more power to the USL and it's Pro/Rel aspirations. I hope the have the pocketbooks to cover the popularity and arms race that will follow. It would be a shame if they succeeded only for the MLS to play copycat and outspend them out of spite. No, actually that would be a good thing for America.
@@StrongKickMan pro/rel would not work at all here. this will take a ton of time
Americans love European soccer so they already know pro and rel
I'm a USL fan and there is no chance this happens. MLS has almost all of the major markets.
Not Baltimore
Or Pittsburgh
Came here to say this exact thing.
@@OmegaBlueMusic MLS is looking to give Baltimore an NP club that would be DC's minor league team.
Usl got oakland, vegas, Pittsburgh, San Diego, tampa, Birmingham, miami, phoenix.
They need a streaming platform so that they can get more views and someone to market USL more.
USL seems to have more passion from the crowd
no, teams like Austin Fc, Seattle Sounders, STLFC, Nashville SC, LAFC, Galaxy, etc have incredible crowds
Usl is already better and more exciting and interesting than the mls. For the pure fact the the clubs are independent from the league
I never knew that
Yeah, that is the big "problem" with MLS and why I think it'll be hard for them to truly implement pro/rel. I think it will take a lot for USL to overtake MLS. I legit watch zero USL matches. Do they even have any international competitions? There's a lot of other things to fix in US Soccer besides pro/rel (and I'm not against it).
Cope
Holy moly I watch USL more than MLS (because my local team is in USL) and that already makes me excited for the future of the USL.
Not even close. I gave up my Las Vegas Lights season tickets after 3 years because the level of play was so bad. But I will occasionally drive up to Sandy Utah to watch RSL because MLS at least offers a minimal standard of play.
They need to do what’s best for US soccer and somehow merge. MLS as the top division then USL underneath it with pro/rel through the leagues. Capitalize on the World Cup and the local USL fanbases
Average USL championship attendance was 5,803 in 2023.
Average MLS attendance was 22,094 in 2023.
The highest average attendance for Sacramento Republic (USL) was 10,627.
The highest average attendance for Atlanta United (MLS) was 47,526.
So numbers don’t lie pro/rel will not make the USL more popular
Your statement makes no sense. The current attendance figures have nothing to do with pro/rel.
@@FAITHandLOGIC pro and rel will never work in USA... avg value mls 600 mil. avg value usl 6 million. Never work in a million years in USA
Thank you for some common sense. Idk why the comments here are so deluded.
@@FAITHandLOGIChis comment makes sense because rhe video and comments here make it seem like pro/rel is what will make USL at all relevant when the truth is that it can't compete with MLS in the slightest.
you realize you're making a weird argument between small market and big Market right? big markets have an enormous population duh....yet MLS franchises who play in NFL stadiums can't even fill up the bottom Bowl.😅
People will love USL, players love MLS
Wait so MLS AND USL can compete for the main league in the USA?
Merica! F yea
No structured league, USL is older and operates differently than MLS
Yes mls is light year ahead
Technically yes but in reality the US federation is corrupt and completely slanted in favor of MLS even tho MLS is garbage
A USL player has scored more than Messi this season so far
In a farmers league what a joke😂😂 and you think that’s impressive
Farmers league 😂
MLS having Leo Pessi just makes it easier to want to switch to USL
I didn’t even know the USL existed until this short came out 💀
Where do you think some of the MLS clubs started?
I already watch more USL games than I do MLS so nothing will change for me lol
I hope so, it's a chance to make it right but it will take a long time. MLS is a rich country club.
Half the USL are MLS developmental teams. Thank you for wasting everyone's time
Well not anymore. They all went over to MLS Next Pro.
no, mls created mls next pro for all of those teams to play separately against each other
USL has absolutely zero chance of overtaking MLS. USL has teams in much smaller markets like El Paso, Colorado Springs, Loudoun, RGV, New Mexico, etc. and most of their clubs don’t have their own stadiums and still play on minor league baseball fields. For those reasons alone they won’t even touch MLS.
Some very good footballing sides in the USL
Noah Fusion is one to watch
And this apparently is the standard of content on CZcams.
All about the money. The league needs to generate the money to be able to bring better players in. The leagues not going to take off if it’s just a bunch of colleges kids who weren’t good enough to play in other leagues
A-League (Australia) doesn’t have promotion/relegation either - there’s plans for a second division but I can’t see it starting in the next five years
Unfortunately as much as I would love Pro/Rel in our soccer, I don't think that would be enough to overtake MLS. It would be exciting to see if that did happen though, perhaps if it immediately does start gaining traction then it will persuade MLS to join USL to form a heirarchy going from MLS-USL-USL 1-USL 2, etc., in a similar fashion to the Premier League and EFL doing Pro/Rel between each other. I mean, just imagine, smaller teams climbing up from USL or USL 1 and winning the MLS in a Leicester-esque miracle story. Now that would be exciting.
In ten years there will be a super bowl between mls and usl champions.
This just means that they have cut themselves off at the knees. Promotion and relegation is anathema to making money. That's why LAFC has a valuation greater than 15 teams in the EPL. Closed leagues generate revenue for a limited number of teams. That's why the NFL can deal with having the Jets.
If USL partners up with the 3rd or 4th level minor teams they could be a second competition to MLS. it could happe but in the future.
USL League 1 is already a 3rd tier, and USL League 2 is already a national amateur 4th tier. The problem is that national 4th tiers l, and most regional "5th" tiers are for college and high school kids and some really good mid to late 20 somethings that want to keep up their skill (potentially national team call ups for small Caribbean nations)
Can you do the rise of mbappe or tchoumeni
Sorry but there really is no comparison, the MLS is an elite league, even by world standards, 15th to be exact (according to OPTA) Not only that, the MLS has WAY larger attendance with the USL’s to top attendance being just above the MLS’s worst attendance. Don’t even mention salary, USL players on average make 30,000, to the MLS’s 500,000.
Fun fact, there is an American sport with relegation, paintball
USL has some great fans, but the league always seems to have a new team come in and another team fold or suspend. Don’t think pro/reg will make people more interested. It might lead to more clubs folding.
what would happen probably is that the mls fearing competition would adopt a similar system like uefa did when they changed the format of the champions league to stop clubs forming the super league
How about we can have USL clubs participating in CONCACAF Champions tournaments
Nabhuto can you do the rise of Nabhuto?
Cmon man…I’d love for MLS to have some sort of competition or pro/rel but the USL is not it rn. Give it time, the sport is still a baby in this country
The only way for USL to become more popular it needs more fans so instead of saying it could why not spread it around
At what point could you see MLS owners start to defect and join USL? - my guess is it would be very difficult to pursue that route without incurring a total loss of their investment; however, USL might gain so much leverage over MLS that the MLS landlords might have no other option than to join a system that is bigger than their collective selves. I think this is why MLS is actively squashing certain USL markets like Indy Eleven or SD Loyal and withdrawing from the US Open cup (what MLS doesn't quite realize yet is they are starting to dig their own grave by doing so)
USL is planning to do promotion and relegation, however, I've seen no such statement that they have division one ambitions. Then again, I did not know they had division one ambitions for women's soccer until they announced a division 1 women's league. I don't see them pulling off promotion and relegation without forming a division 1 league.
no sir, it's all about money...MLS has major stadiums and the money of millionaires...i live in ATL and our fans are 100%...i didn't know there was another team...this is not about sportsmanship, it's about making money...periodt!...
USSF will not let USL compete with the MLS.
It would only make sense for the if the mls was in the usl it would be the equivalent to the pl to the efl.
I kinda think that the mls should be above the highest usl league in the promotion relegation
Despite your obvious enthusiasm 😂 your suggestion is highly unlikely…and unrealistic.
How???
@@eddiep9207 IT'S CALLED MONEY. USL HAS NONE, ALL MONEY IN MLS
@@NiceHandTick mls has none too 😂
@@eddiep9207 mls has way more just in infastructure
messi is retiring at 2025 so it can work out.
Unless USL has Ronaldo then maybe-MAYBE, they might compete with MLS
USL just teases pro rel to get people to support it. It won’t be implemented. Promotion and relegation is a fine concept but has some glaring issues that people love to ignore for the sake of hating on US soccer. I’m not against it. Just sick of the people who really think that it’s the answer when it very obviously isn’t. It’s just a brain dead response to the issue of soccer in this country.
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Safc❤
why are these guys so passionate about USL?...
Not likely but lets say they are able to seriously compete, at best they would just merge with MLS and maybe they’ll just have Pro/Rel with just 2 divisions instead of an entire pyramid. Also that would mean teams would cease to exist
how do you merge two leagues where the upper league's teams are avg worth of 500 million and the lower leagues teams are worth 4 million?? Why would the upper league want to merge ?
It’s a good sign for soccer in the USA none the less BUT, I think relegation etc is an overrated part of soccer leagues! Typically the top dogs with the big banks remain the top dogs and the small fries at the bottom remain the small fries! The top is usually the same revolving door of winners and the bottom is the same revolving door of losers.
MONEY buys success in soccer leagues like these! Especially a league with no salary cap!
MLS salary cap keeps the competition the standard which is why NBA, NFL are so successful, every team has a legitimate chance to win over time! Yes there is the Messi exception but that an EXCEPTION! A marketing exception!
I welcome either league because I won’t complain about more soccer but if I wanted to own a team, I’d choose an MLS team over a USL team! I PERSONALLY prefer the FORCED stability and structure over time! Less chances to fail and fall flat as an owner.
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LOL... Good luck with building stadiums and getting broadcast contracts.. You cant pay top players to come with marbles & Legos 😂
Yes let there be promotion and relegation it’s gonna be the best
Nope Pro Rel just leads to 4 teams getting all the money and never being relegated while the rest of the soccer pyramid dies on the vine.
Won’t happen. USL owners, like MLS owners won’t agree
Lol, yeah USL is nowhere near being able to "take over" soccer in the US. The level of play and brand exposure is just much better with the MLS. I gaurantee you can ask 100 people to name a USL team and maybe 3 people will be able to give you an answer. But even non-soccer fans could tell you the LA Galaxy or Inter Miami play in the MLS.
After Messi leaves people will need a reason to stay watching MLS. Unless they make some big changes that makes the league in and of itself interesting to watch it will be possible for USL to overtake them if Pro/Rel is successful. That makes leagues interesting, not the playoff model which only works if your sport doesn't have competition for American eyeballs. There's a reason MLS is 3rd most popular soccer league in the US after Liga MX and Premier League.
MLS will be fine like before, there will just be a dip in Inter Miami fans.
As an American I enjoy watching soccer but the MLS is just boring there’s no stakes I am in support of a yearly playoff to end the season but the way the MLS does it is so bad I would 100% watch the USL if they did this
Well good news, USL has a playoff to end the season, and they might implement pro/reg
USL already has the greatest team to grace a pitch a team that could trash 2015 Barca 11-0 and that’s the Oakland Roots
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Usl averages about 7 k a game, mls gets 23k a game,
I believe that this could uncover great talent in places we don’t expect.
Soccer becoming football
USL is the minor leagues so no it won’t ever take over the major leagues
Not in the traditional since, it probably won’t ever overtake MLS but if it does it’d become the major league, as a USL fan I don’t want this to happen, watching minor league soccer kinda feels like watching college football
@@viewingstorm8930 I think US Soccer considers USL a tier 2 league. So I don't see how it could happen. I guess if somehow the fans bases grew bigger than MLS it could happen though. But since the markets are smaller I don't see it.
start watching Detroit City!
So usl cannot overthrow msl because msl has messi???that's lame,
Delusional to think that pro/rel will automatically give USL the edge. Most people don’t give af about pro/rel. I’m not against it but it’s not a magic pill.
Plenty of terrible leagues around the world have pro/rel.
Mls is going to purchase usl ,mls has money
SA FC MIGHT BECOME A MLS TEAM??
go look at the expansion candidates
No, no and no.
Usl is not going to take over, messi is in the mls so it gives people a action better reason to watch the mls instead, + carlos teves is one of the best in the mls and h has a good fanbase and the usl, i havent even heard a single player from there
Carlos Tevez? He retired and never stepped foot in MLS?
Messi is aging and he has said that he has plans to eventually return to his first club in Argentina to retire, how will MLS retain their new fans then?
Word for word, Bar for bar. Such original content saw a video that said exactly what you said and was made before you. Do you stop copying others
No there isn’t
only 3 secs in and I already know this guy is full of crap
Folks it didn't happen. Sadly
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
Usl is already better and the open cup is amazing
Who else is confused
U look Indian
Promotion and relegation is not good for business in the US.
It should cuz the US is a massive country. There could be a football league for every state of the US similar to the 7th division of England.
@NanobanaKinako
Not just every state. Many more cities. A rising pro soccer team could put many suburbs and smaller town on the map. And the fan bases and their pocketbooks would be welcome when the teams are promoted and must play in the bigger city soccer stadiums.
@@NanobanaKinako no???
@@RealBlockbityes. People only become fans of major teams because there is no other choice. I’d much rather support the team I can drive 15 minutes to watch every Sunday than 2/3 hours once every couple of months, even if it’s low level, because of the hope of promotion.
they just wouldn't ever generate enough money to compete, you really wouldn't have much of a difference than you do now. I don't think Europeans understand how big the drop off is in population size between cities in the US with major cities, let alone major cities in state when compared to their smaller counterparts and how drastically that affects the economy. No to mention how far apart these populace centers are to one another relative to European ones even in their own states. It isn't like we don't have minor professional leagues for NA sports we do there just is no pro/rel due to the logistics and finances and their relative niche appeal. It just doesn't make sense. The Hershey Bears are a great example of this. Super famous AHL team from PA but their market would NEVER be big enough to be a viable NHL market. This is no different for smaller USL teams. Smaller markets area also historically dominated by college sports in the US, so there isn't really much demand for a professional level replacement. A great example is how Louisville is a MASSIVE basketball market in the US and Kentucky is a basketball POWERHOUSE on the collegiate level, but due to just HOW popular college basketball is in the state the NBA has never placed a team there in fears of not being able to compete in the market. So on the whole there is just MANY factors as to why a european style system just doesn't culturally jive with the US, at least for the time being. I do think that could change, especially if the USL continues to grow financially and if soccer were to become more dominant culturally etc., but really that is more of a time thing and I don't think you are going to see changes any time soon. Part of why MLS is structured the way it is is the stability it provides in a NA economic ecosystem, it is why most major sports leagues in the US are designed that way. @@NanobanaKinako
WE WANT PROMOTION RELEGATION NOW