Why ChemE Sucks! Things I Wish I Knew Before Going to Chemical Engineering (My Rant!)
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- This is a little rant on things that I wished to know before going into Chemical Engineering... Some are mild, but some are life changing decisions!
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⌚Timestamps:
00:00 Start
01:12 Job Market
02:35 No Maths or Engineering at all
04:00 Syllabus outdated
05:16 Starting a Business is HARD
07:05 Companies are FAR AWAY
07:54 Most Companies are very Old School
08:52 Noone know about ChemE
09:27 Welcome to the Dark Side
10:11 Not working as an actual Engineer
11:03 Professors are not Engineers
12:08 You know NOTHING
13:01 Closure
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Not applying your knowledge in chemical engineering is a difficult step for many graduates to accept. It seems that the only thing you needed to know to get a job is six sigma, SAP and Power BI. hahahaah Just kidding! (or not) ... Great video Emmanuel!
"just kidding" ehehe we will never know for true
Great video, by the way checking the comments in some videos im impressed the amount of chemE who start to invest in data science.
Yep, lots of ChemE need to add more stuff to the toolkit in order to drive
In the end, you analyzed also the dark side of the ChemE world, remaining yourself and trying to be as accurate as possible. Awesome!!
I agree with every topic, mostly with the fact that the university syllabus is old for our times!
indeed, ill be making a video on the GAP between academy and industry
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy can't wait!!
Some very true things said there Emmanuel!
I would have to say with the point you made about the dark side, chemical engineers work in those fields acknowledging that they are working at the most efficient level to mitigate pollution effect 9 times out of 10, so it does seem negative on the face of it a little bit, but it is becoming more climate sensitive for sure!
Great video yet again 👍
Indeed, sometimes it's not about them directly, and will try to make their best
Much needed video, it's really hard to get process engineer job here in India as well. I worked as a Production Engineer in Calibration gas/ Industrial gas Industry and salary compensation is below avg. Now I am transitioning towards data science cuz as they say data is the new oil. From one oil to another😁
Let's hope for the best, it's is almost a brand new area and I'm looking forward to see how it develops for ChemE and Industry as well
Hey shubam I am a graduate trainee chemical engineer and looking to transition to data science...I would like to know more about thay...can we connect on LinkedIn or something.
Very well explained, I am pursuing chemical engineering from NIT trichy , currently in 2nd year
Great 👍 How is it so far!?¿
Great points🙌🙌🙌
Thanks my friend! BTW, I see you subscribed 5 years ago to my channel! Thats great!
Great thanks, my friend!
always :) thanks for your support!
I wouldn’t mind working as a technician in plant or every sector , i think you can still contribute a-lot of your engineering knowledge in the job and make it easy to understand the whole shebang ,Still another good video my ChemE guy i love the meme scattered throughout the video low key made me laugh and happy and made me handle the truth very well , Thank you 😊
Sure, the problem is when you feel stuck in those roles, I've got many messages of ppl working as operators urgently wanting to change to an engineering role =(.... BTW thanks for the note on memes, will be adding more soon
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy yeah that is the sad part about it , I’m afraid of it too but i hope for the best for them and all of us , Also adding memes will be greatly appreciated my Guy, you are the best !
So much wisdom in this video. Take heed ChE students!
thanks evie, really appreciate your comments!
That's so sad because it's simply the truth... I feel like Jon Snow even after my master's degree because I don't have experience with industry :/
Make no worries, experience comes with experience! Good luck in the meantime :)
Camilla Fontoura
You did master's???????
How come you take that huge risk purposefully?!?!
I mean sorry but if parents forced you, ultimately you are the person held responsible for your future right!?, anyone who knows about the branch and four years in it will just be the most biggest hater of this branch already
Were you not knowing this?
Seriously? Where you did master's from? Or did you want to just get to go as chemical engineering lecturer.
You know what I had job just before COVID in water treatment plant
Now just because I don't earn money at all my parents are unable to tolerate me this is the fact! "Hard FACT"
@@kocengineering769 yes , btw where are you from ?
Great video with lots of good info, thanks man!
As usual delivering my friend
Good one my Chem Eng Guy
Thnx my friend
True, I don't know how is the situation in Mexico or the US, but basically here in Italy chemical engineers are paid just above the average salaries. Occupation for engineering is like 93%, in the chemE sector it's like 85% and for fresh graduates finding job is hell... Many Italian engineers go to Germany where they earn double the money or the UK, where you earn roughly 75% more (now brexit has made things harder, so 90% of people will look to move to France or Germany) but hey, chemE is a very respected, trasversal and highly skilled degree, so you have a pretty good chance to work in fields like finance or managment that pay more!
Also i like how your videos start in a very dark and depressing manner but then you give hope to us young engineers :D
Hehe thanks for your comment, glad you liked the twist! And yes, when I was in Germany, there were lots of Italians and spaniards, due the same reason that there is lots of qualified engineering roles out there but simply not being employed and must go abroad to Germany. UK. USA etc
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy Unfortunately we chemE can work in pretty specific aspects of an economy, unlike IT or accounting professionals. the more chem, biotech, pharma, oil and plastic industries in a given country the more job you find.
Here in italy being a process engineer is the only viable path, but many Mech and Mechatronical Engineers have "invaded" this sector and there is competition with them -_- (real process engineers are chem engineers, goddamit!)
I’m currently in the middle of my first semester of my ChemE degree and I’ve been on the fence about switching to another discipline because I’m intimidated by the scarce job opportunities. Ideally, I’d be going to the environmental field. Do you have any advice?
If you want to change to environmental, rather stay in ChemE.... Most environmentalist will be hired either form environmental, mechanical, civil, or chemical engineering disciplines... The advantage in ChemE is that you have a lot of more fields to apply!
Is it a good decision to choose Chemical Engineering major after +2 ?
I want to study chemical engineering but I am scared about its scope
Well, any engineering is a good degree, tbh, but try to apply to as many internships to get more experience when applying to a job
as a guy in final year of my high school...would you recommend chemE or mechE or csE considering the future scope?
both are great, depends on what you want to focus... MechE is overall easier to get better job positions
I’m currently a junior chemical engineer at the University of Washington and luckily I just got an offer for my first internship at a paper mill. Very happy
congrats! some tips: enjoy it, network, learn a lot, be willing to work in anything!
Starting my MEng in September as a Physics bachelor, not a ChemEng. Am I under a huge handicap? What can I do to improve my chances at succeding?
MechE is a great area since it is the basics of most engineering (materials, movement, static, machines, etc) You will enjoy it... In order to succeed, I would recommend to boost your softskills!
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy oh I meant Masters in Engineering (in Chemical Engineering). I’m currently working in an Electrochemical Engineering lab and learning like crazy! Saludos y gracias por la respuesta ;)
I am a chemical engineering. I feel that my internship/future job could be a job where there is not too much chemistry involved. I love the people I work with, the job is stable, and the pay is good. It deals with pipeline corrosion. Chemistry is not really used here, which is the main reason I would want to move away to a process engineering internship, or refinery, but it seems chem is not used in that or most other jobs like i would think. Is it better to gain experience in this non-refinery/plant career to start with or try my luck with other opportunities that may be the exact same thing but less stable? And then in the future, switch over to something like biofuel, hydrogen, etc?
Well, unfortunately there is not much chemistry per se. I would recommend you to apply to R&D, product development, process Engineering, environmental or something similar in order to ensure you work with chemistry (and chemicals as well)... I would try to apply to those jobs that are actually of my interest rather than trying out to map a route for my career
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy What kind of environmental jobs are there in chemE, it would seem like thats more environmental engineer
All on point! I totally agree! Same experience
Thanks! I'm glad we resonate around the world xD
As a process engineer do we really need to understand the whole engineering curriculum or it has just been made easy by softwares like Aspen and all you just need is just basics and logic ? Or is it the other way ?
Both, truly trying to understand piping systems, you will see that sometimes logic is not enough.. And using a software will not be enough. You need to understand the issues behind that... Actually, is the main job of the engineer to troubleshoot this type of stuff, whenever the software or something doesn't go as planned, the engineer gotta figure it out
Thankyou sir 😄
designing of equipments and process control and instrumentation is the thing that keeps me invested me in chem cre is so beautiful though fm ht mt trio is interesting mechanical operations is so cool chemical engineering is going
nice! Yes, designing is a beautiful part! Been in both phases and I think design is awesome
Please may i ask a question? Is chemical engineering really bad for health?as it might cause some illnesses such as cancers... please answer me i wanna choose it as a major but I'm afraid this fact is true
not likely, most places are relatively safe, but of course, it may depend on the type of industry
Maanhh...this channel is really freaking me out
Relax, just making click bait content ;)
Or do I??? Hahaha
You are awesome! Totally the same in Russia.
Wow, thank you! Nice to hear ppl from Russia!
if anyone asks me about chemical engineering, i reccomend looking at other engineering disciplines. Specifically civil engineering is magnitudes easier and lower intensity workload for similar pay range
True, although it can be much more chaotic, depending on deadline and times. I have friends constructing highways in the middle of nowhere, going there, staying in the hot sun, waiting, measuring, managing construction, etc...
Chemical engineering was the biggest mistake of my life. Got stuck with low paid QA/QC jobs. Making more money driving for uber and lyft though now with the high gas prices, that is ruined. If I could go back in time I would pursue software engineering but even that is becoming more saturated. STEM tbh has been a lie.
Sure, but then there is no really a "safe bet" any longer... maybe med school
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy med school requires more time and money investment to get the degree than pretty much anything else (8-12 years, easily six figure debt). Physician money might be good but the work life is terrible.
@@richardaversa7128 True, but is a "safe" bet if that's what you are looking for.. TBH I rather go for engineering or CS
Bro not only just chemical engineering needs training after graduation but aslo many other disciplines needs training as well to start working.
Saying that after 4 years,
only chemical engineers needs training is totally wrong thought
never said that other engineering degreed do not need it. But as a ChemE it is a must to be trained on these issues. Most mechatronics can already build a robot before going out to the industry
Bro is process safety course good after chemical engineering
for sure, SHE its always required in an industry
I have always said that a career gives you many skills, it is up to you what you do with them. However, many chemical engineers for some reason believe that we can only work on oil or related things, when we can work in very diverse fields, environmental, material science, finance, even data science. So, there is no justification for them to say that there is no work.
True... but I really think is kinda funny to study mostly subjects in process engineering field (reactors, pumps, plant design, process control,e tc.) to end up doing some admin work or so... I really get them when they say that there is no "proper" chemical engineer jobs
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy but that happens in all degrees, whether they are engineering or not, more than half of all professionals end up working in some area that is not directly related to their degree, I know several friends who work in things that are very different from their specialty.
The problem here is not so much the labor market, it is the universities and the study plans, they insist on giving us industrial amounts of knowledge that many times we are not going to use.
So we need to know programming?
Yes and no heheh... The more tools you haves a ChemE, the better, but coding is not 100% required and if so, you will be trained most likely
I hate that everything has to be perfectly balanced or else kabooom!
Indeed, always in the loop
True, I am always afraid of something might go Kabooooooom that I am switching to computer science for graduate study.
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XD
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuyI am a freshman in college who is pursuing a chemical engineering degree. Should I switch my major to another engineering degree? It seems that there are a lot of negatives to the degree : (
@@glock_9ine956if there is another major you like the most, for sure!
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy the problem is chemical engineering is the one I am most passionate about, but it seems the opprotunities are the worst in comparison to the others
This CZcams that you're posting your information wouldn't have existed without a chemical engineer Thomas Mensah from Ghana. He improved the manufacturing process of optic fibers which led to the world of Google, Facebook, WhatsApp and CZcams, etc. So Chemical Engineering knowledge is powerful and you should trust the process that you'll one day do wonderful thing in this world instead of focusing always on getting a job. You can read more about Thomas Mensah for more information and inspiration. He's one of the most genius Chemical Engineer in the world whom vast majority of Chemical engineers don't know about. Thank u
True! There's a lot of things that are used that we take for granted!
yaarum kekule
thanks for that!
Yaarum kekule
ok! XD
Won the AIChE student design competition back the 90's, near the top of my class with offers from several reputable chemical companies (Dow, DuPont). When I got into Dow - immediately I wanted to leave. I made a huge mistake. I don't care where you went to school - you will be supporting manufacturing/business - which is god awful boring. Squeezing nano dollars per pound out of a chemical process created 90 years ago is well.... boring. Most of my competitive colleagues who stuck w/ ChE are basically some form of maintenance, EHS, or production leaders (I'd puke). If you want a career making sure workers don't fall into potholes at the facility - go into ChE. Think you're going to design a plant (cool)? Think again. The only way I'd do ChE is with a PhD and in pharma or microelectronics.
Want to create or design (real engineering) with a BS or MS? Go in to electrical or computer science. Wouldn't touch ChE or ME with a 10 foot pole as a BS. For a ton of people who hate engineering but want to climb the ladder - go into ChE or ME. Currently got a MS in CS, creating mathematical models and algorithms for automonous vehicles. No regrets giving ChE the heave-ho. Oh don't get me going - ChE facilities are located generally in the middle of nowhere (shitholes) too. Buddy at DuPont living Fayetteville, NC (ewww - Chamberworks (if that's still around) is a shit hole too), another buddy at Merck - Rahway, NJ (hell on earth). I live in a nice metro area.
At this point in my career, if I ever wanted to do ChE again - I'd do it at AspenTech maybe.
EDIT: However, if you like hanging around big equipment, doing mechnical "stuff" (nevermind having to deal w/ labor which can be antagonistic at times), and getting outside... yeah sure do ChE, but that doesn't float my boat at all. Paper mills etc, can be located in nice remote areas if you're willing to sacrifice convenience. Just wanted to be "fair". I like to create stuff - theory, modelling, to implementation. No joy like seeing an idea manifest.
Nice comment there, raw and true. This is very resonant with American ChemE; but can be applied to many other countries. The status quo for ChemE is working long shifts, Squeezing profit, decreasing costs, working with old processes and machines, etc.... Although there are lots of companies (non traditional) that will take ChemE for their jobs and may be located in metro areas
It's kind of hard to do your job when nobody likes you for doing it.
Yes, but either way, the main point is to enhoy if yourself first!
most of this problems are true for any branch in engineering sadly.. just make millions flipping jpegs online... ez
Yep. Unfortunately it's not only in ChemE
@@ChemicalEngineeringGuy
Sir,
How are you doing?
You never reply me like at all I don't know why?
So i may tell you one thing forget only chemical engineer just for the moment overall engineering is just junk piece nowadays ok
It is so so sad sorry but in our country and state especially it is so bad and worst of all
People will refer to you first as engineer then as human ok
And similarly humiliate you so rigorously as, my son/ daughter got job as engineer only why are you sitting in home still your dad is feeding you now also
What rubbish?
I am so sad, unfortunately many have gone too far with these types of comments
I am also helpless i couldn't be better to be good to self so!!
We chemical engineers are slaves, that is
Hehe yeah, but that's another talk for another vid!
Chemical engineers are slaves now, too? I thought it was just biology majors, and I had regrets I didn't go into Chem E.
Bro why are you posting about ChemE, if you hate it so much, Get a job!!
I hate it so much that I hate getting a job
so, you clearly didn't even watch the video... do you even understand the work that Chemical Engineering Guy puts into each of these videos? have you noticed the impressive amount of valuable information he has to offer on this channel?
gtfo and don't call people "bro" if you're just gonna hate, son!
Yaarum kekule
thasnk!
Bro chem eng good ah I'm tamil too
@@thiru9763are u in chemical engineering? Nanum tamil dhan
@@GomathyRaman yep bro
@@thiru9763 which clg?