FLYING! the RANS S-21 OUTBOUND!
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2020
- FLYING! the RANS S-21 OUTBOUND! With Randy Schlitter in Hays Kansas. This aircraft is equipped with the Titan 340 180HP Engine option...but we FLY "both" this and the Rotax 912 100HP.
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Loud distracting music makes it hard to listen to the narrative.
Loved the video, absolutely LOATHE the music
This.
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
Experimental Aircraft Channel You are absolutely correct!
There's a mute button.
@@gregwatruba4541 You do have a point
In the early '80's I worked for a commuter airline and flew Metro-liners through Hays. Randy had a basic bare bones ultra-light sitting in the tie down area. I asked our ground agent whats up with the ultra light. He said thats Randy's, he's just playing around. He's really a bicycle guy. I think Randy has come a long way. Great looking line of airplanes.
YES. Most impressive! Thank you for taking the time to watch! :-)
The Wright brothers were byclycle guys too!
Just saying.
The new Rotax 916 would be a great engine for this plane.
Currently trying to decide between a Zenith CH750, this, and a Vans RV14.
I think an S21 with a 916 would be a great intermediate between the CH750 and a Vans RV14. 916 should have similar if not better performance than the Titan since it weighs about 80 lbs less. Guess we’ll see when they get the 916 install kit ready!
Excellent videos----very informative----but, would you please drop the 'horrific' music':
THANK YOU and THANK YOU. And....
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
There's a mute button.
@@gregwatruba4541 True! :-)
@@gregwatruba4541 We love to hear relevant commentary. Not horrible speeded up elevator music.
Great song! Keep up the good videos!
Jesus the music melted my soul
Love the trike
I really enjoyed the flight. Thank YOU for watching.
Sweet looking little plane. Thanks for the tour!
Thank You! I appreciate you showing up here! :-)
Great videos Brian, but the music really sucks. Much better to just let the engine do the singing when there's no conversation going on.
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
@@ExperimentalAircraftChannel Thanks for responding. Agree with your statement, you'll never going to please everyone all of the time. But you will please a lot more people if you drop that music :-)
Hell yeah!
Hah! Thank You!
thank you for the content you are killing it
Yeah? THANK YOU. Trying hard for sure. THANK YOU for watching.
Nice video! The 915 trike/taildragger is an epic machine.
Thank you! Thanks for taking the time to watch.
Really wish there were more content around this craft - seems like an ideal plane.
The plane the RV-15 should have been?
Man, that's a great-looking airplane..
Great looking plane! Hard to believe nobody's done the cowl-cam yet. Very novel idea.
Right?! Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Nive video and music! See you from Argentina!
Nice music? How about some great Tango music from Argentina instead of that electronic crap
THANK YOU.
And...
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
That's my dream plane! Gonna start on the kit as soon as I get some space. I'd do the taildragger with a Rotax 915 though.
Yep, the 915 is the perfect engine for this airframe IMHO. 150 mph at 7.3 GPH with 26” Airstreaks is epic!
I'll be looking forward to your posts on SOCIAL when you start building. THANK YOU for watching!
Nice video keep them coming. Really like that plane and can attest to the Titan 340, mine is fuel injected with P-Mags and I love it. Had 2 planes with Rotax 912 S engines and the only thing I miss is the 5gph vs 8gph (down low). Cannot beat the rate of climb with the 340!😎
The Rotax 915 climbs better once you hit 5,000ft and it’s 75 pounds lighter so a great option for those who live up high.
Thank You for the feedback here! And THANK YOU for watching.
Great video sir! Just finished my rudder build on one of these!
Excellent! We have started a "Experimental Aircraft Channel GROUP" and encourage everyone to post their Build Updates in a "SAY IT WITH VIDEO" style. So I invite you to head over there, join and SHARE. Link in description to the GROUP. :-)
Unfortunately Social media isn’t my cup of tea, so I don’t have Facebook. I’m sure it limits my youtube growth, but i guess I’m gonna try it the hard way👍
I think the music is perfectly fine and I am over 50.
I love the video, great job.
Really enjoyed the video and I had NO problems with the music. Keep up the good work.
Great & very informative videos bro. Don't change a thing. Music is just fine. These ppl are a bunch of haters that can't go out & do it themselves.. Thank you
🙏💪👊
i like the tri gear better... how do they perform in rough terrain? i know the P-39 had three gears and ran in all kinds of messed up run ways.
Do the wings fold on the S20 or S21? If not thats kind of a deal buster for me. I want to store the plane on my property in a trailer. Overall it seems like best
Kit plane. I have heard the kit doesn't require as much refinement like the KITFOX.
The KIT is very much finished and high quality. I am very impressed. Unfortunately the wings DO NOT fold on these models.
I am an old man with one thing on my bucket list. I do the sacrificing in my family. (Still working at 72) and I hope to fly again. At this rate I think the only flying I'll be going is like the song "I'll fly away oh lord I'll fly away. What a pitty.😢😢😢😢😢
Can i run that titan on unleaded mogas? And what's the consumption? A 912is in that would be cheap to run
Nice clean functional looking aircraft. What is the rolling requirement in and out with the big motor? I REALLY like the transparent door and large overhead window, both for pilot visibility and viewing the ground and the usually blind upward visibility in a high wing.
An upward looking camera with a proximity detector that screens (split maybe?) automatically when triggered would be cool, if possible (I see you have the massive window..GREAT) but even then, how often do pilots look up when clearing/scanning? That collision doesn't happen often, but if it saved even one or two pilots, and passengers, it might be worth it. As I'm not aware of interconnectability functionality of the display to non system peripherals, excuse if a stupid question.
Music could go, not really enhancing anything, more of an irritant...I actually like to HEAR the aircraft sounds, even if damped down to allow speaking clearly over them, like you would hear in a headset. On the ground spoken portions, with the aircraft taxiing, you could mic the audio speaking very softly, and lip sync over the suppressed aircraft audio. I know, more work, and everyone's a critic, right? OW, excellent vid. ;-)
Guess I should mosey on over to Deland, since it's only about a 1/2 hour, or so, for the showcase. The homebuilts seem to have virtually disappeared from the Sun N Fun, and I miss them, as I was a LongEZ builder, so that aspect appeals, as well. Got to Oshkosh once, should do that again, too.
Thanks for watching. The specs are in the video and also can me found at www.rans.com of course. The windows are great. All the way around. The top wind has become very popular in many aircraft designers. Even the old Cessna 152's had an option for windows above. It's a small space... windows make it feel open and airy :-) MUSIC? It is hard to please everyone. Honestly... I should have GoPro cameras set up for these type of flight. I DID NOT. I am working to gain more equipment in my arsenal of cameras so I can capture in flight interviews/reviews. We are growing. Tight budget however. SEE YOU IN DELAND in January! :-)
@@ExperimentalAircraftChannel Thanks for taking the time to answer.
I thought of that cam when rear view cameras came into use on cars. It’s too good an idea not to use on any taildragger! Did the tri gear actually have a reverse pitch prop?
YES....the camera is an EXCELLENT idea! NO.... there is no "BETA" reverse prop option. I was just making light of I need tailwheel training and marginally fly trigear. My attempt to be funny failed. Thanks! (Just kidding) THANK YOU for taking the time to watch! I appreciate you!
Another great video ruined by music!
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
@@ExperimentalAircraftChannel the easy way to avoid that problem is to cut down on music use - or at least set the volume lower than the voice part, not the other way around :) - Good video otherwise!
There's a mute button.
@@jeffallen3382 I was going to say the EXACT same thing. How about some narration about what you were doing while flying, or about the cockpit glass, or about the fuel burn...anything other than that terrible music. Love the channel...but, dang...
What kind of fuel burn did you get??
Kitplanes has an excellent husband and wife ongoing s21 build
With an O-320 rather than the Titan.
You don't have to fit the O-340 if you don't have the budget!
What size tires are on the trike? Are the mains 850x6 and the nose an 800x6?
Honestly I am not sure. I tried to zoom in a bit on them. Feel free to reach out to www.rans.com or on FB. They are on SOCIAL quite often. :-) THANK YOU for taking the time to watch.
Where can I find that music?
Maybe people complained about the music because the music was too good and drew it’s own attention
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
What was your rate of climb on that day with the 912is ?
TRUTH.... I don't remember as I wasn't paying attention. Flying the S-21 Tailwheel Titan 180HP I was flying from the right seat and really in shock of the climb. When we switched to the S-21 Trigear I was flying PIC left seat, flying a "stick" (vs yoke) for the first time in a long while, flying a Rotax (first time ever...watching the higher RPM range)...so I was focusing on airspeed and simply flying the plane. My guess is 800-1,000fpm. Thank You for watching!
I want a Outbound !
He Bryan, we saw the tricycle gear S21 but you didn’t mention the gross weight of the aircraft with the Rotax engine. Also could you do an episode of the weight difference of the configuration from steam gauges and glass cockpit. I know there had to be some difference but just exactly how much savings in weight? And maybe throw in the costs along with that evaluation too. Just an idea.... take care. Now I’m going to watch your Ran’s tour.
Gross weight with the 912 ULS or 915 iS is 1,800 pounds as well. If it’s a factory built LSA then your gross weight is capped at 1,320 pounds.
Andrew Morris - I don’t think I hear him say LSA. And weight increases with chute & floats. I didn’t hear anything about the 912 description
John Paul Lafferty They offer the 912 ULS, 915 iS, and Titan engine options for their SLSA engine choices. Most are electing to do EAB to take advantage of the higher gross weight of 1,800 pounds legally.
John Paul Lafferty The yellow one he flies has the 912 ULS. They offer the 912 ULS, 915 iS, and Titan engine options on their factory built SLSA aircraft.
Andrew Morris - I guess the question is the model with the Rotax a different wing loaded structure & fuselage weight. Or is Ran’s only offering the same aircraft with just lower horsepower and limiting the LSA weight. As an design engineer to me you would be caring a lot more metal unnecessarily to accommodating a 100 horsepower Rotax. Fuselage & wings especially if I’m looking for an empty gross weight of around 700lbs.
WHAAAAAAAAAAT!
I think the spring gear looks better than the bungee systems.
How did it feel any vibration could you see yourself doing a 600 km trip in it matt
I’ve made many long distance trips (700+ miles). It’s very comfortable and with the right setup is a great cross country machine!
@@jasonknight1585 Agreed. Would need to stop to PEE though! :-)
@@ExperimentalAircraftChannel True! The fuel to bladder ratio is high on this aircraft.
You stated 1800 grooms but all the plane pictures say light sport. Could you expand on that please?
It can be built as an LSA (using the 100HP Rotax 912UL) or as an Experimental. You register the Gross Weight as the builder and depending on how you build it.
BRS? Grs? I'm a nervous dude
love the range and speed, but I'm surprised its over 300ft takeoff and land. other stol in this range like highlander are half that. I'm assuming because of more fuel and all but just a bit suprised. I wonder if this could be modified to keep that range but drop to the under 200ft ground range.
Those others aren’t even coming close to a VC of 155 tho...
@@Captndarty very true and that is why this is still my top choice. I do wonder if we can get the stol characteristics a bit better without loosing too much on the top end.
@@LiveLNXgaming perhaps VG’s? I know the larger wing they tested gave up more on top than you gained down low so Randy nixed it. Most planes aren’t at gross all the time so 325’ really is super short. Most planes that take off in half that distance are doing so with hundreds of feet to spare...
@@Captndarty again why its not a deal breaker. I don't care about competitions so that is plenty short for me. I wonder if they offered leading edge slats that would do a lot. I'm sure just some good tires and break, VGs, and not flying at full load would be fine. it would be nice to get the on paper number down to under 200, but I do want to use it to go places so a good cruise and efficiency is important to me. if I want to be super nit picky, a 3rd seat option would be nice too but I know thats more of a redesign thing.
If only the S-21 wings folded! I contacted Randy when the S-20 Raven came out and asked him if the wings would be able to fold. He replied, "You're in luck! There won't be one, but TWO wing folding options offered on the S-20!" RANS followed through with neither.
Sorry. Maybe it complicated the fuel systems or the demand to cost wasn't worth the effort.
Glad that it isn’t just one wing that folds ... that wouldn’t be very helpful 🤣
Haha funny comments... Man - great video and if all you get are music taste disputes I think you’re doing it right! I read the same comments on all the most popular CZcams creators vids.
is there a STOL kit for this airplane? its too fast for bush flying
It actually has a VERY wide envelope to fly as far as speed range. And the VNE is 215mph! Wow! I think it gets down into the low 40's. With some VG's probably into the 30's. How slow are you looking to go? Thanks for saying hello!
@@ExperimentalAircraftChannel I'm between this and a superstol XL. I Don't need to go fast
"seasoned and experienced" LOL
And meant with the upmost respect! :-) Also a great teacher/instructor.
No tailwheel, where is that unusubscribe button, just kidding, keep up the great work!
Hah! You had me going there for a moment! :-) THANK YOU for your support.
YOu need tomake it aloe wing and look like a P51 it would sale
2500 ft./min climb...hmmm🤔 only if you pull back at 150. I’ve flown the Titan S-21....
*Correction... maybe it was only during the first 30 seconds. But let me tell you... the ground went away VERY QUICKLY. It was also a cool day with...well I guess it is always a little windy in KS> :=) Thank YOU for showing up and engaging here. I appreciate YOU!
Manufacturer Model Cabin Width
Rans S-6 Coyote 2 45 Inches,S-20 Raven 46 Inches,S-21 Outbound 46.5 Inches
Just Aircraft Highlander, Superstol , Supersol XL 44 Inches
Kitfox Series 7 Supersport, Speedster, STi 43 Inches
Cessna 172 Skyhawk, 182 Skylane 42 Inches
Piper Archer LX 42 Inches
AWESOME VIDEO HORRID MUSIC!!!
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
Thanks. I now am fated to live my life with #2 pencils buried deep in both ears.
Please get rid of the music when your flying. As a pilot I would like to hear the sound of the airplane and the wind.
Loved the video and love the plane. Didn't pay attention to the music don't know whether or not if it was good, just like the plane. Guess I'm not a whiny little b!£¢h.
"Two guys go flying with the most over-the-top gay music imaginable. They fall in lone and get married."
Hah! That is some funning stuff right there! Disrespectful.....but funny.
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
Miles = what? Statue or Geographical (nautical)? In pilot's language KTS or KTAS. We know Rotax and Jabiru. I don't like Rotax. Lot's of problems.
DUDE!!! you TOTALLY should ''rent'' or borry the taildragger with the COWL(taxi)CAM AND GET YOUR ENDORSEMENT!!! wait, is that one quailified to GET qualified IN????
DDID YOU GET TAILDRAGGER CERT'ED?????? (asking future NOW you, nnot the past dude whom videoed this you that I was talking to before... wait... yea... words to that effect)(;
Loose the music, please. Very unnecessary and distracting.
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
@@jeffallen3382 canned spam answers are what liberals throw out when they can’t articulate a rebuttal.
YA! TOO MUCH DISTRACTING RACKET AND NOISE...
Great video, but the music choice and volume really degrades the quality.
Too much talking and B roll, not enough flying.
WHY, WHY the music instead of the A/C sounds??? Can't take it. Time to unsubscribe!!!
(Shakes head). Sorry. I we try to mix it up a bit. There is always more than one way to do something. Sorry to lose you. We encourage you to stick around to help us promote Aviation however. Free Country though. :-)
Informative video. Awful music.
My vote on the "music"......NOOOOOOO!
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
The music is Gawd awful.
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
Muito lixo de propaganda! Precisamos boicotar essas marcas. Falta de respeito do CZcams e desses anunciantes.
Unwatchable. What were you thinking?
What the heck is it with all you tuber's and this awful music?
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
Thumbs Down, cant listen to this crap,
Please, can all youtube creators just stop with the music?!
Why the terrible music ?
kill the music
Thumbs down for that goddamn annoying music!
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P
Nice video CRAPPY and ANNOYING music!!
Another great video ruined by music!
You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can never please everyone all of the time. I mix it up. Check back in a future episode where I put music in that YOU specifically love! :-) Thanks for taking the time to watch....with sound off. :-P