Awesome! That color transition of the body is great. I've tied a lot of bodies on streamer patterns with a yarn that transitions in color along it's length for a similar effect. I think the yarn is called "hombre". There's a tinsel called rainbow that has the same effect for bodies of that type. That quill body stuff is cool, even better when coated with the resin. Nothing I've done comes close to that, not even latex caddis larva. I like the fact you added legs to the perdigon, at 90 degrees no less. I've thought the same as Hank, they look a little anemic without some "wiggles" in the mix. Everyone has their own ideas on fishing, I'm happy you share yours, thanks :o)
Glad you liked it. Transition is just a make up.. looks nicer nothing else. But legs as you noticed have purpose. I like perdigons very much, but in slower water i just dont have confidence in them. I know it may seem stupid, but i just cant fish properly with a fly i dont trust has properties to catch a fish in certain situation. 😀
@@Oholisfliesandfishing That's not stupid, it's smart thinking on your part. The slower the water the more life like movement is needed. I think that "make up" body also is an attraction factor, especially in slower water. For me a pretty fly makes you feel good ( confidence) and fish better - as long as it's simple to tie so you're not afraid to fish it and maybe loose it. Besides, a little lip stick never hurts ;o)
being new to fly tying I have found your videos very valuable! Im appreciative on not just the how but the why you are doing each step. Thanks so much!
@@Oholisfliesandfishing I might. I very much like the colour gradation i yours. I don't have resin-but I might get some. So far I just lightly coat some bodies with 'Hard As Nails', which is not the same of course.
@@TERRYBIGGENDEN no problem with that hard as nails..... Or some nail varnish.... Just use whatever you have. 😉 It may be more difficult..... But not impossible or wrong
@@Oholisfliesandfishing That's OK. I've been tying flied on and off fr about tree years. Curenty making small streamers. I may b=get some resin as I am making some larger saltwater flies for a neighbour. who gave me materials he doesn't want anymore. But my real love is small trout flies. You seem ot be an expert with CDC! :-)
Very nice Vladimir - thanks for sharing! The legs really help - always thought that perdigons looked a little naked. I don't have any CDL so I will substitute Woodduck flank feather fibers for the tails. Cheers! Hank
Hi Hank, Thank you. I am glad you liked it. My guess is that woodduck has soft barbs(never used it)...so be careful not to soak them with uv too much.... i would use the same for legs too... match legs and tail...
@@Oholisfliesandfishing CDL fibers are beautifully marked but most of the ones I have seen used for tailing seem very stiff and more suited to dry flies than nymphs or wets. I should buy some CDL, maybe I will get one of those "tailing packs" that has a small amount of feathers in them. You are right, the woodduck feathers are mostly soft and webby but many of the feathers have barbules at the tips that are stiff enough to make nice dry fly tails. I'll make a point of using thicker UV resin to avoid it wicking into the softer fibers. Three of my ten acres of property are part of a 55 acre beaver spring feed flood - lots of woodducks, mallards and mergansers here... no shortage of duck feathers in my fly tying kit :-)
@@hankvana2149 cdl is perfect for tails.... amazing material. I use it for nymphs because i got that practice when i was in portugal... they use it almost exclusively. And there its much cheaper than in usa or europe. Duck feathers are great. You are lucky there. Perfect resource for good cdc
Nice nymph, thanks for sharing your knowledge! I found the small brushes for UV resin very helpful but it last not so long and at the end it will land somewhere in the ocean in th worst case. I will use my package but don't buy it again 🤔
Lol. - I’m tying a few this week to try out . I fish in south central Pennsylvania in the U.S and the body quill perdigon flies work very for me here 🍺
The color gradient in the body is an interesting innovation. Have you tried CDC instead of partridge to imitate moving legs, but with possibly less impact on sink rate?
Thanks so much. I tried both.... Cdc is a bit better in slow waters... But in slow waters i rarely use perdigons. If you havent watch my vid "the Underwater world of flies" 🍻🍻
how long will perdigon nymphs catch fish? 20 years ago a copper john was better, it became so fished that the fish learned to stop eating it. Same with many others such as pheasant tails, RS2, most dry flies, buggers, in fact in over 200 hours of fishing i've never caught a fish on a bugger. I start every trip fishing buggers, then switch to streamers and then to nymphs. Soon (ish) the fish will stop taking perdigons and something else will be crowned "the best" perhaps the old styles will come back, wet flies and the like. I fish the provo river, which supposedly has over 4000 fish per mile, yet I have never caught a single fish on a perdigon. I've caught dozens and dozens on regular old blood worms. In fact not even the silly cloth ones that most use, or the rubber ones. Just simple red wire wrapped around a hook. Fished under a very large hopper usually. Fish will look at the hopper, and take the worm. With the same setup using every kind of perdigon I have tried, such as the "best ones" from local fly shops, I have never caugh a fish on one. From my own research its silly to think you have to "get down to the fish" when fish are predators. When they see a food item that they think is safe to eat they will move up and down the water column to eat it. The same things hold true with traditional tackle, Spoons and spinners no longer work in my area. People have over fished them, caught those fish who will eat them until they have been stressed to death, and the next generations will no take a spoon or spinner, you can catch fish on a plastic replica of a fish though. However I find those cruel and wont use them. you almost always kill the fish when you catch them with 2 or 3 treble hooks stabbing them all over the face, eyes, and gills. its only a matter of time before those lures stop producing fish.
I will have to disagree with you on fish learning lures and flies. I have heard it before but i never experienced it. Especially when you consider that perdigons can be in so many colours, sizes, bead colours... It has almost indefinite number of colours one can make. So fish cant become reluctant to whole style of flies. One more argument here.... Pheasant tail is one of the most used flies that still catches fish extremely well. Same goes with so many patterns. Not catching fish on buggers in your case i think its not pattern it's your presentation perhaps. Maybe u lost confidence or simply got bored with the fly. So you don't fish it with full focus... But then again.... I may as well be wrong about all i wrote... Cheers Vladimir 🍻
I believe it has more movement in water... And fish seem to confirm that... Cant be 100% sure since fishing is not an exact science... When i tie them angled back.... They seem to stick to the body..... Not bad at all..... But i prefer to add movement to my flies when possible
That's nice, but if it has lively partridge legs, then it does *not* have the perdigon sinking rate. Can't have it all, physics doesn't work that way. Perhaps you meant to say this was a hybrid, or a compromise. That's kind of like putting a parachute on a rock, and saying "it has the drop rate of a rock, but also the soft landing of a parachute!"
Of course it will slow it down a bit.... but not much. These bugs i dont make too small...on smaller ones any detail will affect sinking rate... on this one, it doesnt affect too much...and i use rather thin tippets 6x-8x , so that helps a lot.
Ofcourse nobody is a born speaker. But I'm sorry to say, the way you talk and explain what and why you're doing something, is impossible to listen at. It's to much uuuh uuuh and it's I I I all the time. Not very good.
do you have discord or social media? ive only been tying for 3 months and fly fishing for one year and your channel by far is the best for new tyers to not only learn but to build on the techniques you teach to make my own style thats easy to mix styles and patterns in a way that makes sense i hope you understand what im trying to say
Instagram (oholidzo) , Facebook? For discord i never heard before 😂😂😂 now i feel old. Thank you so much for your compliments. I am glad you found some useful stuff in my channel. Ps:add my instagram (oholidzo) 🍺🍺
Awesome! That color transition of the body is great. I've tied a lot of bodies on streamer patterns with a yarn that transitions in color along it's length for a similar effect. I think the yarn is called "hombre". There's a tinsel called rainbow that has the same effect for bodies of that type. That quill body stuff is cool, even better when coated with the resin. Nothing I've done comes close to that, not even latex caddis larva.
I like the fact you added legs to the perdigon, at 90 degrees no less. I've thought the same as Hank, they look a little anemic without some "wiggles" in the mix. Everyone has their own ideas on fishing, I'm happy you share yours, thanks :o)
Glad you liked it. Transition is just a make up.. looks nicer nothing else. But legs as you noticed have purpose. I like perdigons very much, but in slower water i just dont have confidence in them. I know it may seem stupid, but i just cant fish properly with a fly i dont trust has properties to catch a fish in certain situation. 😀
@@Oholisfliesandfishing That's not stupid, it's smart thinking on your part. The slower the water the more life like movement is needed. I think that "make up" body also is an attraction factor, especially in slower water. For me a pretty fly makes you feel good ( confidence) and fish better - as long as it's simple to tie so you're not afraid to fish it and maybe loose it. Besides, a little lip stick never hurts ;o)
@@joeduca8582 haahahh i agree totally 😀😀😀 nothing without lipsstick
@@Oholisfliesandfishing I get that. I think its common to most fly fishermen. It's all pat of the overall enjoyment as well. :-)
@@TERRYBIGGENDEN exactly. Its just enjoyment 😀
That is awesome. Great Fly . I love it. I’m gonna try it. Thank you very much for the video.
Thank you. Glad you like it 🍻🙏
being new to fly tying I have found your videos very valuable! Im appreciative on not just the how but the why you are doing each step. Thanks so much!
Thank you for watching my videos. Glad you find them helpful. Happy tying
Cheers 🍻
Improved indeed! Sink ability of perdigon, buggines of traditional.... dream combo! "VladiGon" is going places!
Hahah, i will need to change the name. Thanks 😀😀😀
Yes. That whip finish on the front of the partridge was the most important learning point for people tying legs onto their thin or small nymphs.
Details are often overlooked. Glad you noticed, 🍺😀
That's the type of nymph I like, slim and heavy.
Glad you like it. 😃😃
This one sinks like crazy 😀
Outstanding! Well thought out and very well tied.
Thank you very much. Appreciate your comment. 😃😃😃
Very lovely fly and tying. Will try that one out! Thanks :)
thanks so much for watching it. Glad you like it :)
These are very elegant flies.
Thanks a lot. Tie some and let me know how you like them 😀😀
@@Oholisfliesandfishing I might. I very much like the colour gradation i yours. I don't have resin-but I might get some. So far I just lightly coat some bodies with 'Hard As Nails', which is not the same of course.
@@TERRYBIGGENDEN no problem with that hard as nails..... Or some nail varnish.... Just use whatever you have. 😉 It may be more difficult..... But not impossible or wrong
@@Oholisfliesandfishing That's OK. I've been tying flied on and off fr about tree years. Curenty making small streamers. I may b=get some resin as I am making some larger saltwater flies for a neighbour. who gave me materials he doesn't want anymore. But my real love is small trout flies. You seem ot be an expert with CDC! :-)
@@TERRYBIGGENDEN in that case, wait for resin... Its easier.
No cdc expert.... Just know few tricks. 😉
Beautiful pattern. And colours can be changed to suit.
Thank you. Sure, any adaptation to suit local waters is welcomed. 😀
Very nice Vladimir - thanks for sharing! The legs really help - always thought that perdigons looked a little naked. I don't have any CDL so I will substitute Woodduck flank feather fibers for the tails. Cheers! Hank
Hi Hank,
Thank you. I am glad you liked it.
My guess is that woodduck has soft barbs(never used it)...so be careful not to soak them with uv too much.... i would use the same for legs too... match legs and tail...
@@Oholisfliesandfishing CDL fibers are beautifully marked but most of the ones I have seen used for tailing seem very stiff and more suited to dry flies than nymphs or wets. I should buy some CDL, maybe I will get one of those "tailing packs" that has a small amount of feathers in them. You are right, the woodduck feathers are mostly soft and webby but many of the feathers have barbules at the tips that are stiff enough to make nice dry fly tails. I'll make a point of using thicker UV resin to avoid it wicking into the softer fibers. Three of my ten acres of property are part of a 55 acre beaver spring feed flood - lots of woodducks, mallards and mergansers here... no shortage of duck feathers in my fly tying kit :-)
@@hankvana2149 cdl is perfect for tails.... amazing material. I use it for nymphs because i got that practice when i was in portugal... they use it almost exclusively. And there its much cheaper than in usa or europe.
Duck feathers are great. You are lucky there. Perfect resource for good cdc
Great idea...the thinness and sink ability of a perdigon with just a little bit of life..I’m gonna try this one for sure
@@hounddogjonny thanks, glad you liked it. Make a few weight variations and you are good 😀
Nice nymph, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I found the small brushes for UV resin very helpful but it last not so long and at the end it will land somewhere in the ocean in th worst case. I will use my package but don't buy it again 🤔
Thank you for watching, 😀
Honestly i dont like to use any varnish or UV so just in special cases i reach for it. I am more of natural materials guy
Nice job!
Thanks so much 🍺😀
Next level - as usual 🍺
Thanks a lot 🙏🙏. I dont know why but this video is performing much better than all my other videis 😃😃
Lol. - I’m tying a few this week to try out . I fish in south central Pennsylvania in the U.S and the body quill perdigon flies work very for me here 🍺
@@cpullic Have a great fishing. Tell me how it went 😃
The color gradient in the body is an interesting innovation. Have you tried CDC instead of partridge to imitate moving legs, but with possibly less impact on sink rate?
Thanks so much. I tried both.... Cdc is a bit better in slow waters... But in slow waters i rarely use perdigons. If you havent watch my vid "the Underwater world of flies" 🍻🍻
Ohoili, I haven't watched your Underwater World vid, but I certainly will now. Thank you
@@garyburns6049 let me know if it was useful. Cheers
Vladimir 🍻😀
very nice!!
Thanks so much 🍺
how long will perdigon nymphs catch fish? 20 years ago a copper john was better, it became so fished that the fish learned to stop eating it. Same with many others such as pheasant tails, RS2, most dry flies, buggers, in fact in over 200 hours of fishing i've never caught a fish on a bugger. I start every trip fishing buggers, then switch to streamers and then to nymphs. Soon (ish) the fish will stop taking perdigons and something else will be crowned "the best" perhaps the old styles will come back, wet flies and the like. I fish the provo river, which supposedly has over 4000 fish per mile, yet I have never caught a single fish on a perdigon. I've caught dozens and dozens on regular old blood worms. In fact not even the silly cloth ones that most use, or the rubber ones. Just simple red wire wrapped around a hook. Fished under a very large hopper usually. Fish will look at the hopper, and take the worm. With the same setup using every kind of perdigon I have tried, such as the "best ones" from local fly shops, I have never caugh a fish on one. From my own research its silly to think you have to "get down to the fish" when fish are predators. When they see a food item that they think is safe to eat they will move up and down the water column to eat it.
The same things hold true with traditional tackle, Spoons and spinners no longer work in my area. People have over fished them, caught those fish who will eat them until they have been stressed to death, and the next generations will no take a spoon or spinner, you can catch fish on a plastic replica of a fish though. However I find those cruel and wont use them. you almost always kill the fish when you catch them with 2 or 3 treble hooks stabbing them all over the face, eyes, and gills. its only a matter of time before those lures stop producing fish.
I will have to disagree with you on fish learning lures and flies. I have heard it before but i never experienced it. Especially when you consider that perdigons can be in so many colours, sizes, bead colours... It has almost indefinite number of colours one can make. So fish cant become reluctant to whole style of flies.
One more argument here.... Pheasant tail is one of the most used flies that still catches fish extremely well. Same goes with so many patterns.
Not catching fish on buggers in your case i think its not pattern it's your presentation perhaps. Maybe u lost confidence or simply got bored with the fly. So you don't fish it with full focus...
But then again.... I may as well be wrong about all i wrote...
Cheers
Vladimir 🍻
Why do you tie the legs perpendicular to the hook shank? I’ve always angled them back like a cdc collar
I believe it has more movement in water... And fish seem to confirm that... Cant be 100% sure since fishing is not an exact science...
When i tie them angled back.... They seem to stick to the body..... Not bad at all..... But i prefer to add movement to my flies when possible
That's nice, but if it has lively partridge legs, then it does *not* have the perdigon sinking rate. Can't have it all, physics doesn't work that way. Perhaps you meant to say this was a hybrid, or a compromise. That's kind of like putting a parachute on a rock, and saying "it has the drop rate of a rock, but also the soft landing of a parachute!"
Of course it will slow it down a bit.... but not much. These bugs i dont make too small...on smaller ones any detail will affect sinking rate... on this one, it doesnt affect too much...and i use rather thin tippets 6x-8x , so that helps a lot.
Ofcourse nobody is a born speaker. But I'm sorry to say, the way you talk and explain what and why you're doing something, is impossible to listen at.
It's to much uuuh uuuh and it's I I I all the time. Not very good.
do you have discord or social media?
ive only been tying for 3 months and fly fishing for one year and your channel by far is the best for new tyers to not only learn but to build on the techniques you teach to make my own style thats easy to mix styles and patterns in a way that makes sense
i hope you understand what im trying to say
Instagram (oholidzo) , Facebook? For discord i never heard before 😂😂😂 now i feel old.
Thank you so much for your compliments. I am glad you found some useful stuff in my channel.
Ps:add my instagram (oholidzo) 🍺🍺