I was afraid they'd ruin Silco's character by have him go "muhahaha it was all an act I never loved you Jinx" in the final episode. It's refreshing that he really did love Jinx and was willing to put everything on the line for her, even comforting her as he died. While I'm sad he's gone, I think this was a fitting ending for his character and will miss him greatly. Silco is the best animated villain to come along in quite a long time.
He gave me maaad Dracula vibes man. Both extremely conflicted individuals, and ultimately the undoing of their entire cause and their lives was the unconditional love they both harbored for their child.
Silco have cared for his companions since the beginning , he even tried to recruit vander despite everything but in the end did the same choice as vander
Tbh I 100% agree, and the really awesome thing about him is he's not even really a villain, everthing he does makes a lot of sense and he deffinatly sees himself as the good guy fighting for the undercity. Awesome show, looking forward to more.
When her eyes go blank after crying for Silco, I think it's because Silco became another one of the voices in her head. You could theorize that her trauma now also comes from being Jinx and not just when she was Powder.
I think Jinx could not kill Caitlyn anymore... Vi has choosen her, so killing the girl would hurt a lot her sister and nothing would change, Jinx most think that Vi has someone to care now, so she can be forgotten. Thats hurts even more.
Even though, I usually side with the Good Guys in pretty much every story ever, I was a HUGE fan of Silco in Arcane. He went from going to kill Jinx early on, to him not even having the heart to bat an eyelash if it meant her feeling bad.
it makes you even cry harder when you realize that Silco was relieved that he didn't lose Jinx. Jinx lost Silco but he never lost her and he is so relieved that he will never know what it feels like to lose Jinx. Probably that's why he was so calm while he was dying
Not only that but he probably became the prominent voice in her head and instead of tormenting her like the other voices do his might actually try to push her further into the jinx side of things and help her become the jinx we see in league of legends.
You know what I really love about this scene, but also really saddens me. Is that it shows how Vi doesn’t understand how Powder is hurt. It really captures how people react to mentally illness in the real world. To me it’s clear that Vi truly loves Powder, and there isn’t anything that Jinx can do that would change that. Vi wants so desperately to have her sister back and thinks she can do it by reminding her about their family, Vi truly thinks she is helping her, but doesn’t understand that those memories are her pain and her trauma. She doesn’t understand that she’s hurting her. Vi doesn’t understand that Powder is hurt in a away that she just can’t help her. She thinks she can still chase the monsters away, but doesn’t understand that those memories she clings too are Powders monsters, her guilt, her pain, her trauma. Vi doesn’t understand that to Jinx, Powder is the monster. That’s why I think Powder, said you’ve changed too. No matter how much Jinx wants Vi back, she thinks she can never have her. Because she knows that Vi doesn’t understand her anymore. She knows that Vi can’t chase her monsters away anymore. And blowing up the capital was her final attempt to sever that connection with her sister, because she feels that if her sister can’t save her then she can save Vi. By forcing Vi to give up on her.
Vi was locked away for years… Mylo, Clogger and Vander were their family…she wants her sister to remember that. She has no idea that Powder suffers with the voices in her head because she’s been gone all those years holding onto hope. They’ve both experienced trauma not just Jinx…Vi is just mentally stronger.
@@HazelAmarie I don’t think that Vi is mentally stronger then Powder, yes Vi has trauma too, the fight scene between her and Siveca really shows that. The quick cuts of her drinking and pacing around mirror Jinx’s mental state throughout the act 2 and 3, it show that Vi is spiraling out of control too. Just compare Vi seeing Vander To Powder see Vander. Vi’s is warm and lifting her up and Powders is monsteras and bring her down. The difference between the too sisters is that Vi thinks that it’s her fault and Jinx knows that it isn’t. Yes both sisters have lost and had trauma. But Powder lit the bomb. They have both lost their family, but losing someone doesn’t compare to knowing in your heart that caused their deaths. Vi suffered from her choices but Powder Broke from hers.
@@HazelAmarie I also want to clarify that I’m not trying to dismiss Vi’s trauma, on the contrary I feel for her just as munch as Powder. I don’t want to presume your journey or want you been through, it not my place to do so. But I know Vi’s trauma and I know Powder’s, I’ve felt them both. The biggest struggle for both of them is that Vi open up to Powder, I mean really open up. And Powder’s is learning to forgive herself. I’m hoping that they reconcile in the future, as soon as possible, but it won’t be easy for them, because Vi has a support system, Caitlin, Ekko, other friends from Zaun, but Powder doesn’t. She only has Vi, which is hard for her because of all the complicated feels she has for her. It not easy when the only person you can support on is the same person your trauma is connected too. That’s one small part of what Powder is going through. That’s why I’m I can’t wait for Lux and Yasuo and the cat and robot (who’s names I don’t know) I don’t know if those Wild Rift commercials are canon, but I like to think that they are and that at some point Powder will find her Support group. Sorry for talking your ear off,
@@michaelroque2662 I totally understand and agree with you to an extent. I should say that I feel Vi channels her trauma in a less destructive way… she still fights yes but she doesn’t kill innocent people just because she can. Jinx is clearly unstable and I know Vi being her sister has made mistakes but she’s trying make up for them… Jinx is just too far gone for that to happen. I want reconciliation but according to the lore that may not ever happen.
@@HazelAmarie they could change it a bit for the show I think Vi will always care for jinx/powder whoever. They will have their sister moments always but in a different way than normal sisters so it works out 😭 🤷🏽♀️
@@khoinguyen5004 That is Jinx’s sister … Silco knows good and damn well aiming a gun at her sister is only going to make shit worse which is why his deluded ass is dead now.
@@HazelAmarie exactly why he aimed the gun at her lmao. He knew jinx would protect her sister first no matter who it is, so he aimed at vi knowing that would probably be his last moment but he just didn’t want jinx to suffer the ptsd attack she was going through. He did it for her
Something I noticed was that Vi and Powder/Jinx sees their friends and family differently. When Vi sees vander during her fight, it is as a source of strength pushing her even further, like and anime flashback. For Jinx it is trauma, faces in the dark, her inner demons personified and in her mind they are out for her, to make her pay for what she did. So calling them, trying to make Jinx go back to being powder is not really the best idea.
Maybe it is because she accidentally killed them, which is different from your anime bullshit (because usually in anime family members are killed by the villain, and that’s what makes the protagonist goal in life to kill the villain and remembering the family makes them stronger)
@@LordangeloxD Exactly! Vi was hoping for the cliche to work but inadvertetly confirmed her greatest fear: Powder, my sweet innocent sister who couldn't hurt a fly, is now dead. Now only Jinx exist in the insanity that is her mind. That is why when Jinx goes to shoot the rocket, Vi wants to scream "Powder! No! This is not you! Please, you don't have to do this!" but she can't because she blames herself for this happening to her sister.
@@samuelbrancaglion1592 The blame should solely be on Silco and Jinx herself… atp she’s old enough and is just doing this because she wants to. Vi should focus on herself now.. Jinx is far too gone and will become a liability that Vi would have to look after constantly. Powder isn’t gone… she saved Vi when she killed Silco.
@@HazelAmarie I think so too. I'm just saying that is how Vi feels. Of course is not her fault. But imagine the situation where you curse your baby sister after a traumatic event and is gone for years. Then when you return you see her acting in self-destructive manner and calling herself the "slur" you cursed her with. Vi feels like that even though she shouldn't. Arcane made incredible that we don't have anyone to completely lay the blame for what happened to Powder. Vi abandon her, Silco manipulated her and Jinx killed her.
It was painful for Vi since that was their family. Silco caused pain when he lied telling Jinx that only he could love her and her last living loved one (Vi) was “dead” and “abandoned” her.
@@HazelAmarie he truly believed she was dead you can thank Marcus for that and vi loves the past jinx not she is now like silco does so yes he is right in that
@@fenrir4446 Silco created jinx ofc he LOVES her. Jinx is a mess…she’s mentally scarred and twisted…she wants Vi to KILL people she loves in order for Vi to PROVE that she loves her do y’all NOT see how mentally fucked that is? Silco didn’t truly believe anything…when he found out Vi was alive he keeps up the lie that Vi abandoned her sister and orders her death the SECOND time without telling Jinx. Jinx knows HE lied she tells it herself…y’all can’t keep blaming vi for everything she was a child compared to Silco’s grown ass.
it's a good thing jinx shot him cuz he would have killed her sister and that really would have pushed jinx over the edge. at least powder is in there a tiny bit to know that her sister is more important
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Vi doesn't understand that "Powder, Milo, Claggo, Vander", all of those names in the past is what hurts Jinx. Jinx has been trying to tell Vi that she has changed and wanted her sister to accept and love her as who she is now, NOT who she was. Silco is the only one who truly gets that. He doesn't want Jinx to be tormented by the past, the childhood trauma or anything that related to Vi's action any more. He wants Jinx to be herself because Jinx is "perfect" in her own way. Vi will never get that, at least not until much later.
To an extent I can see where Vi is coming from. Due to Silo being an opposition of her father figure an the guy have killed men women and children with no remorse prior. Being in incarcerated or confined can make your confined in your own thoughts and concerns for a long time. Confinement is a good place to get stagnant and not prepare for what you'll see once your out. I do find Silo is a caring father-figure but not a good father-figure. In Powder's period of distress he was handed all of what Jinx needs to make an arsenal for mass destruction. Basically giving her destructive habits for which Silo have to cover the reprussions for. It's kind of similar to starting someone on medication that turns addictive that they feel a need for more supplements for which some of their friends and/or family would supply their addiction. Parents would similar to Silo would enable destructive habits sometimes even to the point their kid(s) cause harm or do worse to them or others either until they die or they not longer can bail them out.
What I love about this is that Silco was the only one who gets it because ultimately, he was one of the biggest factors Jinx became who she is. I do feel he did love her, but to an extent, he sort of molded Jinx to what he wanted her to be (maybe not completely as alluded by Jinx when she said that she became Jinx by herself, but I assume she got a lot of guidance from Silco). I don't doubt that in the end Silco did care for her legitimately, which is an amazing arc for him.
I mean Vi and Jinx only interact like maybe 5mins? First time was Ekko interuping. And Second, which is also the last time they really talked is this. How can Vi knows all these? She literally in jail for 6-8years.
@@cat062 FINALLY. YES. We get it, Silco cares for Jinx. Truly. But he’s also pushing her to be more self-destructive and destructive to everyone and everything else overall. On the other hand, Vi wants her to stop being that. I also have no doubt that Vi would still love her 100% and more even if she stays as Jinx. It’s the killing other people and stuff that Vi wants her to stop doing. It makes up a large part of Jinx but honestly what kind of sister would Vi be to just let her do that again and again?? So tbh, since killing other ppl and destroying things is a large part of who Jinx is (as ive already mentioned before), I don’t know if they’d be able to make up properly anymore. P.S. I apologize if I don’t sound coherent I’m high on emotions rn coz of how frustrated I am of the ppl blaming Vi
Powder will never come back fully and Vi needs to accept that. Jinx can still care like Powder but still be jinx who loves blowing things up and is “crazy”
When Vi says "it's okay." after Silco dies really cemented Jinx in her point of no return. That little innocent "it's okay" was truly devastating, because although Vi ment it with good intentions as a way to resasure her sister. Jinx could tell it was insincere. Because she knew Vi couldn't care less about Silco, so of course it would be okay to Vi. But for Jinx, she had just killed the one person who loved her the way Vi did when she was Powder, but as Jinx. And also she in that same moment she came to the conclusion that Vi would never be able to love her that same way she used to because all Vi wanted was Powder and all Jinx has to offer is Jinx. To be Powder again she'd have to sacrifice being Jinx all together and that's a pretty big ask.
I understand your point but I think Vi was sincere. She saw in Silco's last moments with Jinx, that he really cared for her, and that they had a true father/daughter relationship. When Vander, her second father, died due to Powder's mistakes, Vi was so outraged she said horrible things to Powder and turn her back on her on the moment, which, as a result, turned Powder into Jinx (but Powder was still inside like we could see it when they first meet years after). Here, The history repeats itself :Jinx killed Silco, her third father who, like Vander, truly cared about her. This time, Violet did what she should have done for Powder, she tried to console her and told her everything will be okay. I think she wanted to be there for her and do things right this time. However, after suffering rejection from Vi in the past, after giving her the chance to chose between her or Caitlin (even if it was twisted) and see she still couldn't chose her, she fully embrace the Jinx side because although Silco was a ruthless crime lord, he fully accepted Powder over everything else, and would have given up on his ambitions, waged war and massacred the entire Government of Piltover while Vi couldn't kill a single person. When Vi and Jinx first met, Jinx told her, "Powder fell down on a wall". Latter, Jinx invited her to kill Caitlin so she can have Powder back. Jinx couldn't become Powder without Vi's help. I think by her words, Vi wanted to help Powder to get out of the well.
Now I understand "you'll never love me like you used to" Was kinda confused cuz I still thought Vi loved her the same more than ever Having to come back to a completely different version of your sister and still chasing her back, I thought was amazing But it's true isn't it? She'll never loved her as Jinx the same
Even so, she was willing to protect her sister without the blink of an eye when Silco picked up the gun to shoot her. As much as she chose to be Jinx in the end, you also see that her love for Vi means more than anything or anyone.
That moment of Jinx putting her hands up and giving the innocent doe expression and then turning into the sadistic smile was so well done. The expressions in this show are off the charts
It's really a brilliant callback to the scene where Vi tells Caitlyn she used to chase the monsters away to protect her sister, and implied Silco was a monster. Now she is the one making the monsters bigger, while Silco is trying to chase them away. If you look at the pacing of the scene, it even seems that Silco is shooting at the monsters, and after he does they disappear forever. It's like he sacrificed himself so his daughter could be free forever from her monsters, and he succeeded.
Nah he was just trying to kill Vi because she threatened his hold on Jinx. In the end, Jinx killed the real monster and was the one that protected her sister this time, and then Jinx became her own monster herself after.
Before, we didn't understand the weird relationship between Silco and Jinx and if he was just manipolating her to fight his war, but at the end he showed his true emotions and man, when you feel bad for a villain you know he's been made damn right
I love how he didn't turn out to be a typical, CEO villain that stands on top, manipulating everything and caring for no one. However, as time went by I realized that he has a human side too.
@@lucifeers3219 yep that's why i love villains like this, it remind me to Meruem from HxH, both are presented like the typical bad guy, but in reality they have much more depth on it, when you can undestand and emphitize them you know that it's a nicely write villain
He definitely was more than manipulating her to fight his war even from ACT 2. There were multiple times when Jinx went off and did her own thing, potentially causing problems and being a hindrance as Savika tells him multiple times, but every time, Silco defended her. The only time he got angry was when Jinx went and killed enforcers on top side, but he let it go when Jinx showed him the complete hex crystal and even when Jayce asked for Jinx in exchange for allowing Zaun independence, he took responsibility for Jinx saying he ordered her to do it so it was his fault, when it was actually her going off doing her own thing.
I liked the weapon swap in this scene, it wasn't only Cait having Jinx's machine gun, Jinx had Vi's gauntlet to bring "Cait's snack" on the table, and then Vander also used Jinx's zapper trying to kill Vi. Attention to details, yet again.
One thing I thought of is how much Silco must genuinely HATE Vi with a passion. He took in this super traumatized little girl, whose first interaction with him is to jump at him for comfort because her sister just abandoned her. He sympathizes due to his own relationship with Vander, and eventually grows to love her as his daughter. It is made clear in the show that she's been dealing with her trauma and has been a "problem" for a long time, jinxing their jobs a lot according to Sevika. So Silco has been dealing with her mental health issues for a long time, and knows a big part of it is because of her sister. He has been (admittedly terribly) parenting her to let go of who she was and embrace her anger like he did to grow stronger. He loves her deeply as his own child, and has been ignoring the issues she causes because he values her more than his goal. Then Vi shows up and Jinx gets super confused about her loyalties and who to trust. Silco is probably really afraid of losing her, and just wants Vi gone. And then Jinx almost dies on the bridge. And most importantly, when Silco arrives, Vi is nowhere to be seen, having gone with Caitlyn. His daughter is practically dead, and her sister seemingly has left her to die, again. The next time Silco sees Jinx she knocks him out thinking he will give her up for Zaun, she talks about how he was going to stab her in the back. And he hears Vi tell her that they can leave together and "you will never have to see him again Powder". And Silco's response is "HER NAME IS JINX". He genuinely must absolutely hate Vi, and of course just wants her dead for all that she's done. He tries to convince Jinx that she doesn't have to worry about him betraying her, because she is his daughter and he would never do it. And when Caitlyn gets the gun he is again just super scared she will get hurt. Finally, Vi proceeds to give Jinx a PTSD episode telling her to picture people he KNOWS cause torment her constantly and this is when he just LOSES IT, like manic animal kind of fury towards this chick. And it honestly makes complete sense.
He's heavily manipulative to Jinx anyway. He doesn't just talks about Vi, he talks about Vander too. Who didn't ever betray Jinx from her POV at any time yet he says that Vander betrayed them. Vi from her POV can be seen as someone that betrayed her, but not Vander. Of course he was affraid when Caitlyn is threatening her. If Jinx lost here, he'd lose everything, not just her. When the tables turned, he tries to manipulate her again to finish the job. While Vi this whole time was on both sides Cait and Jinx sides, she was genuine.
@@adrien4269 I think Silco was referring to Vander betraying him by trying to drown him in acid, and betraying the undercity by going "soft." Nobody alone betrays both of them, but both of them have been betrayed. And if he really valued his initial goal more than Jinx, he'd actually have a lot to gain by letting Caitlyn kill Jinx. That would have fulfilled his end of the deal for the nation of Zaun. When Jinx knocks Caitlyn out, he doesn't manipulate her, he straight up just tells her to finish the job, which makes sense from his point of view. Caitlyn is from Piltover, which he hates, and she obviously will take them both down if she gets the chance again. It would be a liability for Jinx to let her live. Plus, she just threatened/shot at the person he considers his daughter. Point is, while Silco obviously screwed up raising Jinx and isn't a shining paragon of virtue, he truly cares for Jinx and has done everything he thinks will help her, with no secrets or lies between them. (He trusted that Marcus had killed Vi, and he had never intended to sell Jinx out to gain independence for the undercity.) That makes him a far more complex and enjoyable character than the usual "stone cold mob boss" archetype.
@@andrelin4345 Nah Silco projected a lot of his mess with Vander on Jinx’s relationship with her sister and knowingly lied about it. Jinx was not betrayed… her sister was drugged, kidnapped and arrested and Silco was the main culprit for her disappearance/death.
I think the main reason Silco's parenting is not excellent .it's because he carries his own trauma . Vander turning his back on him and nearly killing him + near death experience and Undercity not being free from Piltover and having devastating losses has took a toll on him . His issues was never really resolved . He just somehow put himself together . He possibly expected Jinx to do the same . And from what i have seen , Silco didn't properly manipulated her . More like he just taught her lessons from his life like how any parent would do . So it was a traumatized parent taking care of a traumatized child .
@@adrien4269 "He's heavily manipulative to Jinx anyway." You can say this same thing about Vander he also manipulated both of them and thought them how to do 'jobs' that were dangerous and illegal it's obvious that Vander would use VI and Jinx this same way as Silco if they grew up. "Who didn't ever betray Jinx from her POV at any time yet he says that Vander betrayed them." Vander betrayed a vison that both Jinxed and Silco shared of free undercity, Vander was the one that betrayed everyone in undercity by having a deal with enforcers he was their guard dog that would never bite. Both Jinxed and Vi didn't know about it so yea he betrayed them. "Of course he was afraid when Caitlyn is threatening her. If Jinx lost here, he'd lose everything, not just her." If Jinx lost here then Caitlyn would arrest them and that would be in accord to a peace treaty and Silco's dream would happen, if Silco didn't care about Jinx he would let her go through PTSD so that they can arrest her in a weakened state. "When the tables turned, he tries to manipulate her again to finish the job." Winning here would mean loss of his dream that he killed multiple people to bring. At the end she Jinxed his dream. "While Vi this whole time was on both sides Cait and Jinx sides, she was genuine." She was not on Jinx's side she tried to safe herself from pain that she caused to Powder in redeeming Jinx she wanted to redeem herself, she didn't want to accept that Powder that she knew is gone which was her biggest mistake I mean she gave her PTSD because she didn't understand how thinking about the family Powder accidently killed is what is causing her harm and transformation in the first place. Still Silco offered himself to die for Jinx it would be good to see Vi trying this same to save Powder.
It's so interesting to me that the very same people Vi tells Jinx to remember are her triggers but Vi doesn't get it. To Vi, they lift her up (just like when Vander appeared to her in a fight with Sevika), and she so desperately wants Powder back that she doesn't see that it's hurting her.
With all due respect to the character, Vi isn't intelligent enough to see that. She cannot grasp the extent of Jinx's madness, the reason for her drastic change. She thinks she can say "I forgive you" and it sets things back to normal.
@@Mediados Intelligent isn't the word here. More like emotional intelligence: it's about empathy and understanding. It's not about regular intelligence here. Many people are smart or clever but lack emotional intelligence/emotional quotient to understand the trauma or pain of others. They can sympathize but it's truly difficult to empathize when your former loving sister has become a sociopath. It's understandable that Vi doesn't get it.
@@l.n.3372 I'd say it's a mix of both. You need intellect to understand the psychology behind her damage, but also empathy to understand what she feels like
@@Mediados It's not intellect that allows you to understand the psychology behind it, as I've said before. Psychologist and psychiatrist aren't geniuses who understand things that dumb people cannot xD that gives them way too much credit lol. Anybody watching Arcane can understand this much because we are the audience. The reason that Vi doesn't understand is because she's in the show, and she can't view it from the outside perspective that we do. Vi views Vander and the friends as sources of inspiration. She doesn't understand that they are triggers for Jinx and her PTSD. Meanwhile, you and I can understand this, but I am not a psychologist and you probably aren't either. Yet, we understand it because we saw Powder and her trauma and can thus understand it from a psychological perspective as the viewer. We have the advantage that Vi doesn't: we have an outside perspective.
I DONT KNOW IF ITS JUST ME, but silco and jinx's relationship creeped me the fuck out at first. but this scene where they have such an intimate father/daughter moment it just made tears run down my face. he actually really did love her, and only her. the voice acting in this was amazing. bravo to silcos voice actor, jinx's voice actor. this whole series is so good. i need a season 2 asap. Edit: holy shit I just wanted to come back to this all of a sudden and I see I have 5k likes on it wtff THANKS YALL
You're not alone on that, I thought it was some sick, weird relationship but the longer it went on the more I saw the parental relationship they were aiming for.
It was always framed as a father-daughter relationship but they had their intimate moments which creeped people out because intimacy is often associated with a sexual or romantic relationship. But the intimate moments between the two weren't inherently sexual/romantic, makes sense in context, and is largely a result of Jinx's abandonment issues making her clingy and acting like a child. That being said I'm sure the "too close for comfort" moments were intentional to highlight that although they do care for each other as father and daughter, it's not a healthy, functional relationship.
Honestly, it still works as a relationship. This scene just proves the love was genuine. You can’t just say all non-socially acceptable relationships are inheritable evil and predatory.
I do really appreciate how serious Cait was. She didn't let her guard down, she clearly had her priorities: Jinx and Silco are enemies, Vi is an ally. She was fully prepared to shoot both of them, and it was only Jinx's unexpected speed that caught her by surprise.
I like to think that another reason Cait hesitated to shoot Jinx was because she couldn’t make Vi watch an enforcer kill her sister, not after she knows enforcers killed her parents
I like how they had a toxic relationship, but he still loved Jinx. This wasn't a ohh I'm using you all for power, but a situation where he genuinely cared but didn't do what Jinx needed and inadvertently harmed her more. Of course, he was still a villain, but he wasn't the stereotypical loveless monster.
@@hi-there- same here! i meant people who unironically think they are in a wholesome father-daughter relationship. there was a LOT of that on twitter back when it came out. great villain though miss him x
Silco genuinely loved Jinx, but it was only inevitable that a damaged and traumatized man with unhealthy coping mechanisms running a mafia would do more damage than good to a little girl’s psyche
1:16 this is by far the scariest shot of Jinx in the entire series. You can just feel how disingenuous she is. The audience can just tell that she’s about to snap and do something evil. It’s not whether or not she’s going to do the bad thing that fears us, it’s WHEN.
@@lycorislune3846 but still she's able to predict what happens next in seconds because the singed give her some upgrades like she's able to predict in mere seconds before attacking similar to pilots from titanfall
“I’d never would have given you them… not for anything… don’t cry, you’re perfect”. That hit different af!!! Powder has been through ALOT, and the only person that saw powder for powder was Silco.
He was so supportive... by lying to her, telling her to ignore her trauma, mentally caging her and telling her she is perfect when she clearly has many flaws that need fixing. That is not a loving father, that's a desperate manipulator.
The small nod Silco makes after saying “You’re my daughter” as if in confirmation of the truth of his statement. The body language in this show is impeccable!
damn the way she was on edge and shot blindly out of panic is too real.. sometimes trauma/ptsd will make you hurt people in ways you never meant to, you're just acting on pure instinct in the moment :(
Anyone else noticed how when Vi says, "She's my sister" (0:55) Jinx looks over at her and smiles a bit. And then, at 2:43 you can see Jinx has 2 specks of lights in her eyes. But at 2:56, when she opens them again after crying for Silco, her eyes become duller as she loses one of those lights. I thought that these were neat little details.
@1:38 I love this scene. Vi thinks she’s helping by having Jinx remember her past family members but these are also miserable points to Powder’s life that she wants to escapes from.
I think Silcos reason to try and shoot vi was him trying to stop her from hurting Jinx. Jinx suffers PTSD from hearing powder and her friends names which is clear whenever the names are said and the graphics of monsters start appearing. It never happens when she's called jinx. When Vi is calling her powder and naming off all of the people she inadvertently killed you can see it is doing nothing but harming her making the monsters grow in her head basically feeding her insanity. Vi talks about the symbolism of her chasing away the monsters in a previous episode but this time she's responsible for making them grow whenever she calls out the names and isn't there to chase them away. Silco understood this which makes me think out of the both of them Silco was really the one maintaining what sanity she had left. He specifically wanted powder to be gone because that name did nothing but bring her pain.
Yea makes sense he tried to help Jinx by killing her sister.Makes totally sense is not like Jinx would go rampage if she saw her sister getting killed and would have more trauma.Yoo for real you people are this stupid or just want attention cant tell.He literally wanted to kill Vi bcs he was selfish Bastard.He knew that Jinx would always choose Vi over him it wouldnt even be close.
@@ragnarstark4887 the only one who’s stupid is you getting worked up over an opinion of a show. Second off had you been right she would’ve stayed with Vi after killing Silco on accident. Powder had the strongest connection with Vi. Jinx is way more connected to Silco for the fact he raised her and even with her being crazy accepted her while Vi was trying to cling onto powder. Which is perfectly fine for her case but sadly that wasn’t the truth of who she was anymore
@@claggor1070 it’s a double edged sword either way it happened she was going to go insane either from Vi or from Killing Silco. Vi was trying her hardest to help but she just didn’t understand she was causing more pain for her by bringing up her trauma while Silco understood powder had to go for her to stop feeling the pain. I’m not justifying his route of trying to kill Vi but in that moment Silco was the equivalent of a father seeing someone hurting his daughter and tried to kill that person. Again not justifying it because people can’t read and for some reason get crazy when you give an opinion over a show
Silco died the way he lived, no letting no one to talk shit about his daughter. Was quite obvious he was going to die, but man, the way Riot made it... was perfect.
Silco was a beautifully executed villain. His motivations and actions are consistently understandable even in his darkest moments, his personality reinforces what he does, and he's able to remain a sympathetic person even til the end. He really loved her, and that's why the character works. He's not a monster, he's a scared, lonely man who built up an entire identity around himself as armor. Jinx was the one crack he allowed, and its the one that killed him. Poetic
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Before Powder tackle/hugged Silco, he was about to stab her, he had a knife and everything. And even says to the Chem Baron lady, "I would've had your son killed for this." This dude ain't above killing kids. But yeah I agree with everything else.
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s she didn’t mean to hurt her. Thinking of Vander and their brothers is a big comfort for Vi, she was just trying to comfort Jinx in her way. Obviously that didn’t work, but Vi doesn’t know that. Stop blaming her for everything jfc
@@HazelAmarie oh yeah…… And vi was saying no to jinx even when Caitlin was pointing the gun at jinx……. People don’t see Vi started the whole mess, similar to how jayce is the villain and not viktor
@@ibrahimsurti4922 You guys are all turned around. Yes their stories are emotionally distressing but that doesnt excuse what they have done. Silco is a mental manipulator and classic mental abuser. Yes he may love Jinx like a daughter, but he still pushed her to become an emotionally damaged crazy Jinx.
@@northstar67 After finding out that Vi was alive and was out looking for her sister he orders her death AGAIN and doesn’t bother telling Jinx about it. Silco had everything to do with why they were separated and he never told Jinx that…Did y’all watch the show?
0:46 You can barely hear this but the subtitle confirm that Jinx hears her inner voices saying "It's time to leave them". So she raises her gun and yells with no intent of firing in the hopes of provoking Caitlyn to end it all.
The symbolism of how Silco finally understood what Vander had been experiencing when he gave himself up; he had everything he wanted on the table. The Nation of Zaun, reign over topside, control of majority trade, and most of all…. Power. But in order to have it, he had to trade in one thing; Jinx. The source of a majority of his problems that had been preventing true control; and even then, he couldn’t do it. All in all, the character arc of Silco, from a cold, ruthless man with a momentous dream, to a father that would give up his dreams to keep his daughter safe. In the end, Silco went from my least favorite character, to top three.
Everyone always says that this Powder protecting Vi or Jinx choosing Vi over Silco, but I always just saw this as her reacting to the sound of a gun and firing on instinct. And that’s why she looks so shocked after she realized what she did.
@@goomba8170 The writer in question is Amanda Overton who has said a lot of incorrect things on twitter which are at odds with what is shown in the show. She has said that Vi saw Jinx's dying body on the bridge even though the visual panned out to reveal that she couldn't see anything through the fog. She had said that Vander tried to drown Silco after adopting the kids when the visuals show them looking 20 years younger (and it wouldn't make sense anyway, since Vi and Jinx had never heard of Silco before). She is only one person out of a team of writers, who collaborated with hundreds of other people, including animators who often added their own spin to the series that the writers didn't come up with. Using Twitter as your encyclopedia on what goes on in the show, instead of the show itself is an incredibly immature way to engage with media. Word of God is not the definitive take on the series. Use your own brain to interpret what's happening and what the characters are thinking based on the actual text, not tweets. Thinking Jinx was trying to save Vi is a fine interpretation. But thinking she had no awareness of her surroundings during her panic attack/psychotic episode and desperately acted out is also perfectly supported by the show.
@@ahsink.3080 I completely agree. Amanda's name wasn't written in the beginning of episode 9, where they usually write the writers for each episode when the theme song is playing. Alex and Christian and a bunch of other writers names were there but not hers. And after watching the Behind the scenes episodes of the main writers and producers when they were working on the show, it was shown that it was Christian and Alex who wrote the last scene. Also Christian said that Alex was the one responsible for writing any Silco/Jinx dialogue on reddit, so there's that. I really think one of them should've answered this question, not someone who wasn't directly involved in the writing of that specific episode. (since her name wasn't written in the beginning of ep 9, it was written in other episodes though just not this one) and to quote someone on reddit "Jinx's whole motif in life is that she hurts the people she loves, why would vi be any different? (true cuz in episode 3 she was going to die because of the explosion that powder caused if it wasn't for vander) why with vi she would supernaturally be incapable of physically hurting? it doesn't make sense."
Why is everyone blaming everything on Vi? Like vi was in prison. Jinx killed vander and the friends on accident. And killed silco not because of Vi. She’s mentally unstable that it that’s all. More so cause of mylo. Vi had a right to be mad at powder for accidentally killing those people. Stop blaming vi for everything
@@artfaist That's not the point. He was talking about the moment. Vi didn't knew that mentioning Mylo and Claggor would bring up bad memmories. Silco knew it though because Jinx always told him about her dreams and ptsd attacks. That doesn't mean that Vi is a bad person. Silco just saw her daughter in pain IN THAT MOMENT so he was raging so much.
@@artfaist no one was blaming Vi. Jinx was suffering from a ptsd attack, and Silco noticed. Thats why he tried to shut Vi up, so he could calm Jinx down
I’m sick of people villainizing Vi. Yes, she didn’t accept that Jinx had changed and she put her in a triggering situation. But y’all gotta remember that Vi is in a huge amount of denial. This poor woman has been through a lot of shit too. She’s trying to keep the one person she has left in her life and try to bring her back. Vi lost everyone, and at the end of the day she’s a girl who wants her sister back. Jinx is like that too.
The problem in this Is that people can't fully put themselfs in their positions, when your watching a show/movie reading a books or whatever you can just say "damn they're so dumb for doing this i would have done this" but if they were in this character position they probably wouldn't do what they say they will, bc that implies having pass through all this character pass through having to feel their pain and pressure and honestly having characters fail and not tooking the best decisions its what makes them more realistic
@@krisg5078 well, I think that someone certain fails to see what motivated powder do become jinx to begin with: big amount of inferiority complex. And vi was the biggest source of them.
Of course she doesn’t accept that. Why would you blindly accept a murderer. Especially seeing how she went from fighting to survive and help her family to being a part of the group that’s poisoning the people Like it’s a tragic story. It’s sad that Powder is like this now. She had extreme abandonment issues as a kid and was already a bit on the unhinged side (which is understandable given her age and what she had experienced) and then Silco, while he did actually care about her very very deeply, groomed her into a weapon and pushed her psychotic behavior further and further.
It's the mental conflict for me, Jinx loves Silco, but Powder loves Vi, but as soon as Silco tries to kill Vi, the pan balance tipped, that wasn't supposed to happen. When one threatens the other, the need to protect the defenseless one sparks, causing Powder to kill Silco. Perhaps if Silco didn't reach for the gun, but instead kept yelling with Vi, the conflict between Powder and Jinx would continue. Though, it would be likely that Jinx would win, killing Caitlyn in the process. Or, what if Vi had the gun instead, would Jinx kill Vi? That's a rather tricky one. Well, no matter which path she travels, regret will follow all of them. Losing Silco, or Vi, or fully becoming the jinx Vi saw her as in their childhood if she killed Caitlyn.
Something that always touches me is how Silco’s last words are reaffirming to Jinx that he loves her no matter what, and that he would have never betrayed her. Their father-daughter bond was the best part of an already-perfect show for me, and the fact that the villain’s death made me cry more than any other on the show is a testament to the quality of writing. Thank you to everyone involved in this masterpiece, this show is truly lightning in a bottle and I hope season 2 continues with this level of quality.
All of these characters are simultaneously multiple things at once, and all the characters contribute to the tragedy at the end while never being ENTIRELY responsible. That’s what makes the story amazing. Silco loved Jinx but he was also toxic, incredibly possessive, a liar, tried to kill Jinx’s family multiple times, and pushed Jinx to continue making Hextech even as it traumatized her. He was a good father who loved her as murdering maniac, but he was a terrible father who could ONLY love her as a murdering maniac. He both protected and enabled the worst in Jinx/Powder. Vi was a good, very protective sister. But she also got Jinx in the whole mess by taking her on these heists that Vander warned her about, convinced Powder to hide the Hextech gemstones from Vander, punched her in frustration, and then unfortunately abandoned Powder in her greatest time of need, which of course Marcus really made worse. (Although you could even argue Marcus was just doing it to protect Vi from getting murdered by Silco. On the other hand, Marcus could’ve also just gone after Silco himself, but this is what makes Marcus a flawed character). Ultimately Vi also helped create the monster too. Not out of entirely bad intentions, but, just like Silco, out of flawed parenting. And also just like Silco, she could only love a PART of Jinx/Powder. She had the SAME parenting flaw as Silco, and this conflict broke something in Jinx. Finally, Jinx/Powder is responsible for her own creation too. They allude to her unstable mental state as a child when she’s freaking out after she’s told she can’t go help save Vander. She jumps to conclusions about everyone. She’s shown mercy by Ekko but still (possibly suicidally?) tries to blow everyone up. This physical trauma leads to her chemtech treatment that further maddens her. She’s very much a victim throughout her story, especially when you consider how much she’s gone through at a young age, but she also isn’t absolved of responsibility. What makes this story great, a tragedy, and a GREAT tragedy, is not that some sad stuff happened that we can all finally understand by debating it until we arrive at its one true interpretation. It’s a great tragedy because some sad stuff happened that was both inevitable and INTENTIONALLY endlessly debatable. Everyone in this comment thread is 100% RIGHT in their character interpretations and 100% WRONG in presenting their interpretations as authoritative. Good stories are ambiguous. Life is ambiguous. Yeesh.
@I - Rout Did still enable her bad actions, though. Partially because he isn't exactly morally good either but the problem with Silco is that he's the kind of father that lets their child do basically whatever they want. He tells her she's perfect, which is kind of good because Jinx wants to hear that...but he also lets her spiral out of control and hurt other people. He cares when she hurts herself in her mental state but he doesn't care when her actions hurt others.
@I - Rout He didn’t really say that. Silco helped create Jinx in a way as he encouraged Jinx to let go of Powder. He loved her unconditionally but in his own flawed way.
@I - Rout If he loved her unconditionally, then why did he spend several scenes trying to get her to "kill" the Powder side of herself? He only loved "Jinx"; he tried to get rid of "Powder." Doesn't really sound unconditional.
Its crazy and sad that Vi said things are fine and that they'll be okay after jinx just killed someone that was close to her. Vi never understood how much silco meant to jinx
@@wut-dah_7212 obviously but even if you believe your sister is brainwashed or not she obviously attached to self to someone who is bad. Rather it was manipulation or not. So she even said it's okay like she knew something bad went down
Vi was in prison for six years, she had just met her again after a long time and the FireLight attacked. Vi even is surprised when she sees Ekko in their reunion scene and she outright says that she remembers how he wouldn't even be able to stand up to her in the scene, in a proud manner. Because she was also having difficulties on wrapping her head around the passing of time and the fact that Ekko wasn't the "Little Man" she had known anymore. To her it was just knowing what was going on after she was kept far away from everyone she loved and cared for for six years, just like someone who suffered amnesia or stood out of the loop for a long after something happened to them. Vi didn't had any visitors in prison to tell her what was happening outside Stillwaters, apart from Caitlyn just before she gets freed, she's still learning how things are, how could she possibly know that? And Vi didn't WILLINGLY abandoned Powder to Silco, she was captured and forcibly dragged away after being knocked out by drugs on a tissue. How can Vi could know about what twisted relationship Powder could have with Silco while she was literally buried in Stillwaters (her arrest wasn't even in the records nor her allegations for being there, Caitlyn clearly states that when she goes to speak with Vi) especially if the two sisters never talked about it and didn't even had a moment to catch up? The only things Vi knew about the relationship between her long lost sister and Silco are Ekko's words, also Jinx never, EVER told anything to Vi about that. Here Vi is trying to comfort Jinx as much as she can, for as far as she knows about how much Silco meant for Jinx and you can't pretend Vi accepting what her little sister become in so few days since being released from prison. Or at gunpoint, just like in the scene where Jinx asks Vi to kill Caitlyn if she wants Powder back. It takes time for that, and both of them didn't have none to sit down and try to find a common ground from where rebuild their relationship. It wouldn't have been like in the past, but I am sure that Vi would've done the effort to understand everything even for just to reconnect with the sister she never stopped to care and search even while she was in prison if given time.
Okay here's another reason for you to cry for Silco's death. In earlier episodes, when Sevika was making her choice about betraying Silco or not, we saw that Silco is actually afraid of death! It just makes this scene much more meaningful because he didn't show any sign of fear or anger to Jinx in his final moments. He choose to comfort her because he didn't want to be one of the whispers that are torturing her.
I was really hoping Silco wouldn’t die, I loved his character and relationship with jinx, he gave her a home and purpose, he really did love her, but schizophrenia can be a harmful, powerful thing, I ended up wanting the villains to win. Honestly, arcane is so amazing.
Vi didn't even realize it, but she was inducing trauma into Jinx. All those names she was forced to remember were just her worst moments, and it didn't let her think clearly. Vi is a primary source of Jinx's trauma, and here she was making it worse for Jinx again
While I love all the theories of when jinxes face goes blank in 2:59 it’s Silco joining the voices in her head I had a different/second half part to the theory. Putting mental health on the table you can see the exact moments almost frame by frame how her sorrow vanishes because she’s dissociating. Her eyebrows soften, her lip drops, her entire face just relaxes and her eyes are just a void because she isn’t there. Her emotions, reactions, trauma, triggers, her entire subconscious has taken over (which had already been the case from the start so this is it being a breaking point intensity) and she’s no longer here, hiding somewhere safe in her brain while this part of her she’s created through all her pain to front instead, because this version of her is ruthless, murderous, and it’s all to protect “powder” but this new side of jinx that Vi views as powder is just the humane side to jinx many don’t believe exist.
I've always wondered why they framed the scene like this 2:47 and I realized it shows that all through out the show jinx was lost (thus showing a dark path behind her symbolizing a struggle of her identity and worth) and after hearing silco's last words it came down to self acceptance flaws and all (thus showing light behind silco and framing jinx's sit). after that realization the voices 2:53 didnt made her anxious like before, instead she had a calm expression like everything is clear. so SHE CHOSE jinx.
This scence is such a tragedy. On one hand, Silco was a father to Jinx but he also ennabled her worst tendecies in a misguided way to make tought enought to survive Zaun, driving her further into maddness. He conffussed helping Jinx with projecting his own traumas into Jinx, literally molding her into an insane version of himself. His love was genuine and equally toxic Vi, on the other hand, clearly loves her sister back, but is equally affraid and disturbed of Jinx. She cant accept what "Powder" to Jinx is emotional pain. Just like in real life, reminding traumatissed people of theor past is emotional painfull and traumatising. Vi is trying to put Jinx in a mold what she no longer fits. Both Vi and Silco, were the greatest and worst thing to ever happen to Jinx
Okay, I rewatched Arcane enough times to be able to write my little essay about Jinx and Silco's relationship. I was watching videos about Arcane after I completed the series and in the comments there were so many people thinking that Silco just used Jinx and even in his death he still tried to manipulate her. While I can understand where they're coming from, I believe that they didn't took his character development into consideration. He started off as a general EVIL, doing everything he can to achieve his goals, no matter the cost. Then he met this little girl who accidentaly killed her family and her sister abandoned her (in Powder's POV). He felt a connection to her, shared her feeling of betrayal and decided to take her in. Maybe it really was for to use her as an asset, we don't know for sure. But he took her in. Then we skip a few years and while we still saw the same Silco, he's completely different with Jinx. The first scene they shared he asked her point of view on the cargo incident instead of punishing her outright. Sevika made it clear that she was a liability, that she caused more problems than she solved, but Silco defended her. If he really was using her, why defend her when she clearly just destroyed a part of his crime net? He was patient with her, never raising his voice to reprimand her, instead he kept his cool and even asked her to take some time off to organise her thoughts, since he understood why she had snapped in the first place. When she went off to do her own thing and killed those enforcers, he clearly was angry, but I never had the feeling that he would hit her, no matter how enraged he would get. We saw later on that when Vi managed to escape that he killed his subordinates without a second thought, he was screaming with rage, but with Jinx he never even made a move towards her (notice how he turned off her music and took her pen away when she was ignoring him instead of touching her shoulder or her head to keep her attention on him. He clearly was careful with her, even when he was angry.) Then she had problems with the Gemstone. She went to him and told him what was troubling her and Silco took his time to take her to the waters where he almost drowned to explain his opinion on the matter, instead of just telling her in his office. He showed that whatever Jinx had problems with mattered to him and he didn't just shrugged them off as so many parents do. Yes, he clearly projected his own feelings onto her, but I don't think he did it just to destabilize her further. He felt that this method he'd gone through worked on him, so he believed that it would help her too. But as it's said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Then he got the intel that Vi is back. I don't know why people think that he lied to her that Vi was dead when it was clear that he also believed that to be true. And then he went to Marcus to tell him that he knows he lied to him and that he won't tolerate it the next time. Yes, he then kept this from Jinx and tried to kill Vi before she could meet with her sister, but I think this was a response coming from fear. Don't forget that he also had experience with betrayal and probably had abandonment issues like Jinx. I think it wasn't that he could lose a valuable asset (and she wasn't even that helpful since she usually screwed up), but that he could lose his daughter. He saw Vi as a threat which could take Jinx away from him (probably the only person who could take her away from him) and he lashed out without thinking, trying to deal with the problem as soon as he could. When Jinx reappeared and was obviously pissed, he didn't try to fight her off. He tried to explain his POV to her and of course he didn't know that Vi had no idea about the Gemstone, but at that point he, once again, was responding from fear and projected his issues onto Jinx and Vi's relationship. Again, to keep his daughter by his side and not to be left alone all over again. Up until this point, I can understand why people think he was manipulating her. Hell, even I had doubts. But the bridge scene showed to me that he really cared. Jinx wasn't conscious, so she couldn't see his worry and only his gorillas were there, but he still hugged her close to him and appeared completely vulnerable. What kind of mob boss does that in front of his employees? There was nothing for him to gain at that moment, yet he still showed his worry and fear for Jinx's life. Then he rushed to Singed, silently begging him to save her and I really loved the question "Are you prepared to lose her?" and Silco's response to that. It completely caught him off-guard and the look on his face made it evident that no, he wasn't ready to lose her. I think until that moment, even he himself didn't realise how much Jinx really means to him. (And Singed had to sedate him, because he knew no father could see his child in pain and even he thought that Silco 100% would've tried to stop the procedure.) Then, of course, the scene with Jayce. He got offered everything he ever wanted, everything he fought, the people he killed, it would've all been worth it - but he had to give up Jinx for it. He literally faced the dilemma we, the viewers wanted him to face: Zaun or Jinx? Which one is more important to him? I believe that the broken and defeated look he gave when Jayce left wasn't like "Oh fuck, what am I going to do?", it was more like "Oh fuck, I'm really going to cause a war." He wasn't struggling with the decision: by the time Jayce left him, he already made his decision, he was just coping with what it will cause. (Also, the moment Jayce asked for Jinx, Silco immediately threw himself under the bus for her, just like Vander did for his kids.) That monologue by Vander's statue was also about him coping, not about his struggle to make the decision. Of course, Jinx had no idea, so she also lashed out to protect herself from another betrayal. She wanted to hurt Silco before he could hurt her. And finally, the tea party. Many thinks he tried to save his life, so he told Jinx that he would never give her up, but we already saw him taking responsibility for her actions in front of Jayce, ready to go to Stillwater for her, so I believe he was telling the truth. And also, him trying to shoot Vi. I don't think it was because of his fear that with bringing up Mylo, Clagger and Vander, Jinx would side with Vi, but because he probably knew that reminding her to them wasn't reassuring, but traumatising. We saw Jinx telling him that she keeps seeing them that day and it was clear that it wasn't a happy vision, like Vi's with Vander. I think his struggle there was about making Vi shut up because he could see that she was hurting Jinx (not her intention, clearly, but she just didn't know, again proving that she didn't know her sister that well anymore) and he wanted this to stop. Like any father, he wanted to protect his daughter and even in death, he tried to soothe her, so in her mind he wouldn't become another Mylo or Claggor. And the line, "You're perfect." Before, he declared that Powder was weak and Jinx was perfect, further fueling the manipulative trope. But here, he said "You're perfect." I think that in his final moments, he wanted to reassure her that no matter who she chooses to become, what she does in the future, she would always be perfect for him. He made the mistake many parents do, thinking that their child is perfect and can do no wrong, but I think here he just wanted Jinx to know that he loves her unconditionally, giving her the type of trust and belief no one, not even Vi had given her before ("You're not ready", when they left her behind to save Vander and it triggered a mental breakdown for her.) Silco wasn't a perfect father, that I agree with. But he truly loved Jinx as his own and did his best to guide her and he made mistakes in the parenting, but every parent makes mistakes (his caused people to die). I think I could summarise this little essay with this: he's the type of villain who doesn't care about anything or anyone beside his goal in life, but try to touch his daughter and he will burn down the world, even destroy the very thing he was fighting for before. Because in the end, she's the one who matters the most.
Nah he just didn't want Vi taking her away. He never tried to understand her mental issues. When she told him she was seeing things that weren't there he just told her to finish the weapon. That doesn't seem like a person who really cares for her mental health. Idk why people try to make Silco out to be some hero. He manipulated and gaslit her all her life. Plus it was stupid of him to think jinx would just stand by and let him kill her sister. If anything seeing her father figure kill her sister would cause more trauma, but people don't want to talk about that. Stop romanticizing Silco he's a bad dude.
I didn’t even notice Silco trying to shoot Vi in this scene, the only thing that stood out to me was how she remembered her family: as monsters in her head
This animation is truly showing us how human is. Everyone just wants what they want and they're all made a mistake and regret it. Just like others and that's so amazing. I love them so much TT
fucking hell the way Silco's trying to break free from the ropes when he realized what Vi's words were doing to Jinx. He was ready to pounce and kill for his daughter.
Silco's final lines really show just how much he genuinely loves and understands Jinx and how he wants to reassure her so he can pass away without worry. _"I never would have given you to them, not for anything."_ He understood that Jinx felt betrayed and confused and wanted to correct her misunderstanding and reassure her of just how much she meant to him. He would've given up his entire dream and everything he built for her sake, and that nothing he ever said to her was a lie. _"Don't cry."_ He understood that Jinx would've blamed herself once more and that no one would be able to comfort and console her, he didn't want Jinx to burden herself with his death because he understood her confusion and impulsive actions and that it was an accident. He knew she didn't mean it and he wanted her to know he still forgives her. _"You're perfect."_ Finally, he wants Jinx to know that regardless of what happens after, he will always accept and love her regardless. That no matter what she feels, what she does, and what she burns, she will always be Jinx, and that she never needed her to be anything more or less than herself.
@@MeDicenPacho ah wait yeah, I’ve been playing to much wild rift. On there her passive is denting blows, but on the actual league game it’s her shield.
A few comments I saw on here made me really think. Jinx saw powder as a monster because she (unintentionally) killed her friends and family, and now felt she had to kill her off because powder then also killed her only father figure since vi was taken. Vi sees jinx as a monster but that she can get powder back. Jinx killed powder to protect silco but after powder killed him to save vi. Jinx created vi as an enforcer and vi created jinx. I love every single part about this show, I’m hoping that they can have some sisterly bond still in season 2, even tho we all know it’s not going to be like it was before.
Something I really appreciate in this show is how well it portraits emotions. I watched the scenes with Jinx and Vi so many times now and realized things that went over my head the first time I watched it. Like I first thought that Vi abandoned Powder because that's how Powder interpreted it since she's so scared of being left behind for being a jinx. But Vi actually just wanted a break to calm down and collect her thoughts, since she was in a upset state where she couldn't control herself and her emotions properly and therefore lashed out on Powder. And when Vi tried to reach out to Powder thinking that the thoughts of their family where pleasant memories for both but for Powder those memories where her demons, her guilt, her trauma. She didn't meant to hurt her sister, only to help but she didn't understand Powder's feelings, which I didn't understood the first time either. Hollywood usually makes us believe that emotions are visible, anything you can see on the screen is what's actually going on in their heads but that's so far from the reality. Everybody interprets things differently, have different feelings about things and sometimes actions comes from a different place than what it looks like it does. And I just feel like this show really showed that, especially with the sisters
I like to believe it’s this moment that Vi finally understands why powder sided with Silco, not because of any brainwashing but genuine care. For the first time, Vi probably sees Silco in a different light as a person with a gentler side
2:54 I’m surprised no one has theorized that Silco joined Jinx in her head, like Mylo and Claggor, after his death by her hand. There’s a brief moment where she loses her expression and you hear subtle whispering before she decided to fully embrace herself as Jinx.
Man, I’m practically dry when it comes to crying over movies or tv shows but Arcane really had me in tears. when Silco used his last moments to tell her he loved her and she was perfect I just started bawling like a baby
One small detail that people don’t notice that I love that they put in is right after Silco says you’re perfect, if you watch his bad eye, the burning yellow color starts fade away as he dies
Even when Jinx would mess up almost every one of Silcos plans, he still never gave up on Jinx. Even after Jayne gives him the future he always wanted and after Jinx accidently kills him, he still reassures her that theres nothing wrong with her.... Say what you want about Silco but at the end of the day, he truly loved Jinx as his own daughter! He loved Jinx for who she is now. Not what she used to be like Vi does.....
@@jcguidotti5934 1 not compairing, just saying the scene had a similar feel to other characters actions. 2 jinx is her own character and has been for a long time nobody said she wasnt
Who else just loved the animation when jinx took the gun from Caitlyn? Went from the soft scared powder, to the resolved calculated confident jinx. And then just this animalistic takeover move ♥️😍 it is pure awesomeness 🎉❤
For once it feels like everyone is in agreement with how good of a character Silco was. He cared about her so much. He wanted to shoot Vi to shut her up. Silco isn't a good person, he's not even a good father, but he cared about Jinx. He only thought of shooting Vi in that moment as a way of helping her... which is absolutely wrong and we all know that but damn was his heart in the right place... for Jinx. I love characters like this. Perfect villains and perfect heroes are boring. Watching Silco struggle to be Zaun's shady leader but also protect Jinx was amazing.
You can say that Silco is a "good father" as he takes care of Jinx and provides for her safety but he's just an incredibly immoral one. He's a villain so you have to except him to do evil and villainous things as they all do.
Something I just realized is that, when Vi was listing off all the names of people Jinx killed, Silco knew that what she was was only hurting and scaring her. Which is why he was fighting so hard to shoot Vi rather than convince Jinx to be on his side
@@HazelAmarie not saying what he was doing was right (especially with what the results of it was). Just something I picked up. While Vi didn’t notice it, Silco knew that what Vi was saying was just making Jinx suffer
@@asifhossain8363 and I find it odd how y’all act as if Jinx is the only one messed up as if Vi didn’t suffer just as much… she actually saw them die stfu
I feel like a lot of people don't understand; there's no going back for Jinx because there was never something to go back to. Jinx *is* Powder. They're just different names for the same person. A girl who grew up in a very violent place and suffered a lot of traumas, who is constantly tormented by the guilt of her greatest mistake. But also a girl who likes the fighting and the violence, who relishes in the chaos and destruction. Jinx's only conflicts were in her love for Vi and her guilt for Mylo and Claggor, but we've never once seen a hint that she doesn't like the person she's become, that there's some facet of Powder trapped inside that can be brought back. For better or worse, this is the person Powder has grown to be.
Верно. Ви же хотела видеть ту самую маленькую девочку, которую джинкс ненавидела всей душой и из которой давно выросла. Чего Вай понять не смогла. Джинкс хотела просто подтверждение безусловной любви к себе. Принятию после всего что она совершила и кем стала. Но Вай продолжала ей изменять раз за разом уже после возвращения из тюрьмы. Джинкс сделала правильный выбор. Она выбрала себя. Эту веру в свои силы, в то, что она сильнее своих страхов предал ей Силко. Умирая ему не за чем было врать и она поняла, что есть хотя бы один человек, который её полностью принял даже после того как она его убила. Это доказало ей её ценность. Это бесценный дар Силко.
This hits hard..when I was in my teens I had mental problems and was literally going to lose my mind. Sometimes I didn’t know what was real and what wasn’t. How Jinx’s mental state looks so violent, it was so same to me too. I never was a violent person but my visions and sounds I heard felt so as it is seen here too, all the same feels it’s scary. I got better though thank God.
"I never would have given you to them, not for anything" "Don't cry, you're perfect" I think that these two lines were some of the most emotional lines throughout the whole show. Silco did love Jinx, not like some other shows where the father figure was just using the daughter/son and had no love. I was genuinely so scared that this would happen, but when it didn't, it added a whole other aspect to the show.
The fact that Silco put up with Jinx being like that tells me that he really did love her. I think he didn't originally plan to take her in, but when she clung to him like he was the only thing she had left, he accepted her, but ended up genuinely developing an attachment to her.
I genuinely believe silco breaking free wasn't so he can keep jinx (someone who he came to love as family) as a possession, but instead so he could stop her pain as he could clearly see how much she was hurting when Vi was bringing up her memories
Just as Vander taught Vi to master herself and her skills, so did Silco to Jinx by allowing her to accept herself and be at peace with her inner voices (we even hear them going away near the end as she becomes more serious after his death) I can’t wait for season 2
A small detail but I love the wariness in Vi's voice after Silco dies and she says "...Powder?" before trying to comfort Jinx. Kinda highlights more how Vi is still afraid of her unpredictability. I swear my heart was pounding the whole time, not sure what Jinx was going to do next. Simply amazing.
Love how Silco was ok giving you everything, even his own life, for Jinx, someone he cared about…just like he got mad and Vander for at the beginning. Absolutely superb writing!!❤️
I feel like other people are supporting Vi, as well as hating on Jinx & Silco, but I have my own take on it. Vi & Jinx/Powder: It's pretty obvious throughout the series that Powder was always a bit unstable. She has a good mind and good intentions but she's quite clusmy so her inventions almost never work. Also seeing Mylo badmouthing her and taking things wrongly like leaving at the wrong time when Vi 'agrees' with Milo before she tells him off shows that although she has a good mind, she doesn't really try to see the full picture when it comes to emotions. Vi was always telling Powder 'You're ready' and stuff like 'You can do it, Powder' but that one time, she didn't. Again, going back to how Powder was unstable, and the fact that kids are generally scared of being alone (even teenagers like I am), and the fact that she's unstable as a sort of amplifier, it's obvious why she broke down. When you're in a shaken up state, you often assume the worst thoughts. Powder probably thought 'Vi abandoned me! They think I'm weak' especially considering that Mylo was badmouthing her when he was alone with Vi, and even when he was with her. When Powder wants to prove herself to her family, she ends up ruining it all. This time, the bomb actually works. Mylo and Claggor suffer instant but horrible deaths, and Vander has to sacrifice his life for Vi. Now, Powder can't see any of this going on, so she thinks that it worked, she proved herself and her family is going to be proud of her and actually see her as a hero, instead of a 'Jinx'. So when she comes to Vi saying how it worked, and she's proud of it. She's shocked to see that it KILLED her family instead of HELPED them. Vi literally lashed out everything on Powder, which is understandable. But when she realizes what she's done and goes to cool off. Powder thinks she's abandoning her, and she's scared to follow her because she thinks Vi might attack her again. The sad thing is, that since she's in a shaken-up state. She's assuming the worse and thinks Vi is going to leave her for a 'better life' because she's a 'Jinx'. Then Silco comes and helps her. Silco & Jinx I see a lot of people saying Silco 'created' Jinx. but Jinx states that Jinx was created by Vi. After she slapped Powder, that was her last chance before Jinx began to take over. And yes, I'm not saying Silco is a good person. He's horrible actually, and he did manipulate Jinx to a certain extent. BUT I see people saying he manipulated Jinx that Vi was dead, and that Vi doesn't care about her anymore. This is because this is what he actually thinks. Silco was abandoned and betrayed by Vander, but this is because they had different ideals for Zaun. And Silco is pushing that onto Jinx because he thinks that Vi left her for a better life, just like Powder. That's why when Sevika reports that Vi is back, he says "From the dead?" He knows just as little as Jinx, but people are claiming that he has some insider information. Silco is also abusive, but not to the extent that people think. What I envision the relationship between Silco and Powder/Jinx, is that he took care of a bird with a broken wing. He didn't heal it, but he did try his best to get Jinx through what he thought she was going through, the exact same thing as he did. Silco was giving Jinx the advice his past self would have needed, he didn't know that Marcus arrested Vi, he thought that she died after trying to leave Powder. Now when Jayce offers peace for Zaun in exchange for Jinx and others, Silco immediately offers himself. The feeling of being abandoned by family again is the worst. When they say they're only taking Jinx, Silco deeply considers it, and ultimately comes up with the conclusion that no, Zaun is not worth Jinx. Silco is visibly worried when Jinx is dying from fighting Ekko, he knows Jinx is tough and can go through anything, so he tries to drug her with Shimmer so he can survive, however this was actually a bad option. After the tea party is at its climax, when Vi is trying to run away with Powder/Jinx, Silco is saying NO. I won't offer my daughter for Zaun's independence, why would I offer it for free? Vi hates Silco, but Silco has respect for Vi because she's Vander's daughter and is Jinx's most loved one, she loves her even more than Silco himself. Vi starts to hurt Powder/Jinx again. Whenever Vi tries to do something good, her instinct is to just take it out by force, kind of like pulling out a tooth without a napkin or ANYTHING, and the gum starts bleeding. When Vi tries to tell her that they can start over, Jinx considers, however Caitlyn interrupts. Then Vi butts in again by telling her to envision her dead family, which are the voices that haunt her. As you can see, Silco picks up the gun. However, he doesn't even intend to shoot Vi. You see smoke out of his gun, which means he already fired. There are also bullets NEXT to Vi's head instead of in them. He was just trying to tell her, "Hey, stop trying to hurt my daughter". However Powder thinks that he's trying to hurt Vi, so Powder comes out and shoots him. Then she instantly regrets it. Not just Jinx loves Silco, Powder does too. After Silco says 'You're perfect' it's obvious which is the better person for this damaged Powder/Jinx. Vi is a good person, but she keeps accidentally hurting Powder. She still envisions her as the little girl she was 6 years ago, and chooses Caitlyn over her twice. However Silco prefers Jinx, although he'll still accept Powder as long as she doesn't abandon him. Vi only accepts Powder, while Silco accepts both with open arms, not even giving her for what he's been chasing for all his life. Jinx/Powder is perfect for Silco, but only Powder is perfect for Vi. Anyway that's both of my take, if they all decided to live as a happy family, Caitly, Silco, Vi, and Jinx/Powder, that would be the best outcome, but I think it's too late for Jinx. Thanks for reading THIS REALLY LONG COMMENT, and Sorry for wasting your time.
This moment made me realize that no matter how much Silco wanted Zaun, he really came to see Jinx as his own daughter. He spent years raising her. He may have used her to get his own ends, but he was willing to sacrifice nearly everything to keep her.
![[Arcane] - Silco being a father to Jinx | All Acts](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FoXQDGocWkY/mqdefault.jpg)
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I was afraid they'd ruin Silco's character by have him go "muhahaha it was all an act I never loved you Jinx" in the final episode. It's refreshing that he really did love Jinx and was willing to put everything on the line for her, even comforting her as he died. While I'm sad he's gone, I think this was a fitting ending for his character and will miss him greatly. Silco is the best animated villain to come along in quite a long time.
He gave me maaad Dracula vibes man. Both extremely conflicted individuals, and ultimately the undoing of their entire cause and their lives was the unconditional love they both harbored for their child.
Silco have cared for his companions since the beginning , he even tried to recruit vander despite everything but in the end did the same choice as vander
@@theeinertia4106 he takes loyalty seriously and it shows
Its a really twisted kind of love. He doesnt love who she is, only who she became after all his meddling and manipulation.
Tbh I 100% agree, and the really awesome thing about him is he's not even really a villain, everthing he does makes a lot of sense and he deffinatly sees himself as the good guy fighting for the undercity. Awesome show, looking forward to more.
When her eyes go blank after crying for Silco, I think it's because Silco became another one of the voices in her head. You could theorize that her trauma now also comes from being Jinx and not just when she was Powder.
damn poor jinx she's got trauma coming from everywhere now. she cant be anything other than crazy.
That explains the faint whispers before she stood up
No, Silco's death completely broke her. She could have killed Caitlyn, but she felt nothing but emptiness. Those eyes were dead.
She dissociated.
I think Jinx could not kill Caitlyn anymore... Vi has choosen her, so killing the girl would hurt a lot her sister and nothing would change, Jinx most think that Vi has someone to care now, so she can be forgotten. Thats hurts even more.
“You’re perfect….”
AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN
I felt that in my heart.
This is both hilarious and painful...
Seconds Later: PPPP-PENTAKILL
@@webo__zaid6358 more like "SHUTDOWN"
Not even funny it just hurt deep lol
Silco's smile when he says "you're perfect." makes me cry all the time
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Even though, I usually side with the Good Guys in pretty much every story ever, I was a HUGE fan of Silco in Arcane. He went from going to kill Jinx early on, to him not even having the heart to bat an eyelash if it meant her feeling bad.
it makes you even cry harder when you realize that Silco was relieved that he didn't lose Jinx. Jinx lost Silco but he never lost her and he is so relieved that he will never know what it feels like to lose Jinx. Probably that's why he was so calm while he was dying
FR😭😭
@@deno.j9855 true especially since he almost lost her earlier in the series, found her half dead on the bridge and ran frantic for help to save her
Theory: The whispers Jinx hears that make her stop crying and go numb are Silco. He’s joined the voices in her head.
Not only that but he probably became the prominent voice in her head and instead of tormenting her like the other voices do his might actually try to push her further into the jinx side of things and help her become the jinx we see in league of legends.
@@narcisoferreira9976 Oh, that's genius!
Ya almost everyone she’s killed becomes a voice in her head
@@iamedyson fr
@@someotherworldlybeing3167 the people she kills by accident
You know what I really love about this scene, but also really saddens me. Is that it shows how Vi doesn’t understand how Powder is hurt. It really captures how people react to mentally illness in the real world. To me it’s clear that Vi truly loves Powder, and there isn’t anything that Jinx can do that would change that. Vi wants so desperately to have her sister back and thinks she can do it by reminding her about their family, Vi truly thinks she is helping her, but doesn’t understand that those memories are her pain and her trauma. She doesn’t understand that she’s hurting her. Vi doesn’t understand that Powder is hurt in a away that she just can’t help her. She thinks she can still chase the monsters away, but doesn’t understand that those memories she clings too are Powders monsters, her guilt, her pain, her trauma. Vi doesn’t understand that to Jinx, Powder is the monster.
That’s why I think Powder, said you’ve changed too. No matter how much Jinx wants Vi back, she thinks she can never have her. Because she knows that Vi doesn’t understand her anymore. She knows that Vi can’t chase her monsters away anymore. And blowing up the capital was her final attempt to sever that connection with her sister, because she feels that if her sister can’t save her then she can save Vi. By forcing Vi to give up on her.
Vi was locked away for years… Mylo, Clogger and Vander were their family…she wants her sister to remember that.
She has no idea that Powder suffers with the voices in her head because she’s been gone all those years holding onto hope.
They’ve both experienced trauma not just Jinx…Vi is just mentally stronger.
@@HazelAmarie I don’t think that Vi is mentally stronger then Powder, yes Vi has trauma too, the fight scene between her and Siveca really shows that. The quick cuts of her drinking and pacing around mirror Jinx’s mental state throughout the act 2 and 3, it show that Vi is spiraling out of control too. Just compare Vi seeing Vander To Powder see Vander. Vi’s is warm and lifting her up and Powders is monsteras and bring her down. The difference between the too sisters is that Vi thinks that it’s her fault and Jinx knows that it isn’t. Yes both sisters have lost and had trauma. But Powder lit the bomb. They have both lost their family, but losing someone doesn’t compare to knowing in your heart that caused their deaths. Vi suffered from her choices but Powder Broke from hers.
@@HazelAmarie I also want to clarify that I’m not trying to dismiss Vi’s trauma, on the contrary I feel for her just as munch as Powder. I don’t want to presume your journey or want you been through, it not my place to do so. But I know Vi’s trauma and I know Powder’s, I’ve felt them both. The biggest struggle for both of them is that Vi open up to Powder, I mean really open up. And Powder’s is learning to forgive herself. I’m hoping that they reconcile in the future, as soon as possible, but it won’t be easy for them, because Vi has a support system, Caitlin, Ekko, other friends from Zaun, but Powder doesn’t. She only has Vi, which is hard for her because of all the complicated feels she has for her. It not easy when the only person you can support on is the same person your trauma is connected too. That’s one small part of what Powder is going through. That’s why I’m I can’t wait for Lux and Yasuo and the cat and robot (who’s names I don’t know) I don’t know if those Wild Rift commercials are canon, but I like to think that they are and that at some point Powder will find her Support group. Sorry for talking your ear off,
@@michaelroque2662 I totally understand and agree with you to an extent.
I should say that I feel Vi channels her trauma in a less destructive way… she still fights yes but she doesn’t kill innocent people just because she can.
Jinx is clearly unstable and I know Vi being her sister has made mistakes but she’s trying make up for them… Jinx is just too far gone for that to happen.
I want reconciliation but according to the lore that may not ever happen.
@@HazelAmarie they could change it a bit for the show I think Vi will always care for jinx/powder whoever. They will have their sister moments always but in a different way than normal sisters so it works out 😭 🤷🏽♀️
Silco picked up the gun to shut Vi up so she would stop giving jinx that ptsd attack. Respect
Glad I am not the only one who thinks that....
My god someone noticed. He wasnt trying to kill Vi, i think, just to make her shut the f up
@@khoinguyen5004 he wanted to kill her
@@khoinguyen5004 That is Jinx’s sister … Silco knows good and damn well aiming a gun at her sister is only going to make shit worse which is why his deluded ass is dead now.
@@HazelAmarie exactly why he aimed the gun at her lmao. He knew jinx would protect her sister first no matter who it is, so he aimed at vi knowing that would probably be his last moment but he just didn’t want jinx to suffer the ptsd attack she was going through. He did it for her
Something I noticed was that Vi and Powder/Jinx sees their friends and family differently. When Vi sees vander during her fight, it is as a source of strength pushing her even further, like and anime flashback. For Jinx it is trauma, faces in the dark, her inner demons personified and in her mind they are out for her, to make her pay for what she did. So calling them, trying to make Jinx go back to being powder is not really the best idea.
Maybe it is because she accidentally killed them, which is different from your anime bullshit (because usually in anime family members are killed by the villain, and that’s what makes the protagonist goal in life to kill the villain and remembering the family makes them stronger)
@@LordangeloxD Exactly! Vi was hoping for the cliche to work but inadvertetly confirmed her greatest fear: Powder, my sweet innocent sister who couldn't hurt a fly, is now dead. Now only Jinx exist in the insanity that is her mind. That is why when Jinx goes to shoot the rocket, Vi wants to scream "Powder! No! This is not you! Please, you don't have to do this!" but she can't because she blames herself for this happening to her sister.
@@samuelbrancaglion1592 The blame should solely be on Silco and Jinx herself… atp she’s old enough and is just doing this because she wants to.
Vi should focus on herself now.. Jinx is far too gone and will become a liability that Vi would have to look after constantly.
Powder isn’t gone… she saved Vi when she killed Silco.
@@HazelAmarie ajjaa pero también vi tuvo culpa nmmss
@@HazelAmarie I think so too. I'm just saying that is how Vi feels. Of course is not her fault. But imagine the situation where you curse your baby sister after a traumatic event and is gone for years. Then when you return you see her acting in self-destructive manner and calling herself the "slur" you cursed her with. Vi feels like that even though she shouldn't. Arcane made incredible that we don't have anyone to completely lay the blame for what happened to Powder. Vi abandon her, Silco manipulated her and Jinx killed her.
The fact that Silco only shot at Vi because of the pain Vi was causing Jinx by bringing up all those painful memories of the past.
It was painful for Vi since that was their family.
Silco caused pain when he lied telling Jinx that only he could love her and her last living loved one (Vi) was “dead” and “abandoned” her.
@@HazelAmarie he truly believed she was dead you can thank Marcus for that and vi loves the past jinx not she is now like silco does so yes he is right in that
@@fenrir4446 Silco created jinx ofc he LOVES her.
Jinx is a mess…she’s mentally scarred and twisted…she wants Vi to KILL people she loves in order for Vi to PROVE that she loves her do y’all NOT see how mentally fucked that is?
Silco didn’t truly believe anything…when he found out Vi was alive he keeps up the lie that Vi abandoned her sister and orders her death the SECOND time without telling Jinx.
Jinx knows HE lied she tells it herself…y’all can’t keep blaming vi for everything she was a child compared to Silco’s grown ass.
@@HazelAmarieright they keep blaming vi for everything like she was not a child too.
it's a good thing jinx shot him cuz he would have killed her sister and that really would have pushed jinx over the edge. at least powder is in there a tiny bit to know that her sister is more important
Vi doesn't understand that "Powder, Milo, Claggo, Vander", all of those names in the past is what hurts Jinx. Jinx has been trying to tell Vi that she has changed and wanted her sister to accept and love her as who she is now, NOT who she was. Silco is the only one who truly gets that. He doesn't want Jinx to be tormented by the past, the childhood trauma or anything that related to Vi's action any more. He wants Jinx to be herself because Jinx is "perfect" in her own way. Vi will never get that, at least not until much later.
To an extent I can see where Vi is coming from. Due to Silo being an opposition of her father figure an the guy have killed men women and children with no remorse prior. Being in incarcerated or confined can make your confined in your own thoughts and concerns for a long time. Confinement is a good place to get stagnant and not prepare for what you'll see once your out.
I do find Silo is a caring father-figure but not a good father-figure. In Powder's period of distress he was handed all of what Jinx needs to make an arsenal for mass destruction. Basically giving her destructive habits for which Silo have to cover the reprussions for. It's kind of similar to starting someone on medication that turns addictive that they feel a need for more supplements for which some of their friends and/or family would supply their addiction. Parents would similar to Silo would enable destructive habits sometimes even to the point their kid(s) cause harm or do worse to them or others either until they die or they not longer can bail them out.
What I love about this is that Silco was the only one who gets it because ultimately, he was one of the biggest factors Jinx became who she is. I do feel he did love her, but to an extent, he sort of molded Jinx to what he wanted her to be (maybe not completely as alluded by Jinx when she said that she became Jinx by herself, but I assume she got a lot of guidance from Silco). I don't doubt that in the end Silco did care for her legitimately, which is an amazing arc for him.
I mean Vi and Jinx only interact like maybe 5mins? First time was Ekko interuping. And Second, which is also the last time they really talked is this. How can Vi knows all these? She literally in jail for 6-8years.
@@m0Njx3 yeah lot of people who are in confinement after so long can be pretty out of touch with things.
@@cat062 FINALLY. YES.
We get it, Silco cares for Jinx. Truly. But he’s also pushing her to be more self-destructive and destructive to everyone and everything else overall.
On the other hand, Vi wants her to stop being that. I also have no doubt that Vi would still love her 100% and more even if she stays as Jinx. It’s the killing other people and stuff that Vi wants her to stop doing. It makes up a large part of Jinx but honestly what kind of sister would Vi be to just let her do that again and again?? So tbh, since killing other ppl and destroying things is a large part of who Jinx is (as ive already mentioned before), I don’t know if they’d be able to make up properly anymore.
P.S. I apologize if I don’t sound coherent I’m high on emotions rn coz of how frustrated I am of the ppl blaming Vi
As much as I wanna still hold on to an ounce of hope that Vi can get Powder back, this really was Jinx's point of no return.
I certainly dont want powder back , jinx is what made arcane so darn good :o
This is where powder dies forever, and the mad terrorist jinx is truly born
I also was hoping for Powder to come back. I loved Jinx personality on cinematics, but I didn't knew her story is so tragic and dark.
Powder will never come back fully and Vi needs to accept that. Jinx can still care like Powder but still be jinx who loves blowing things up and is “crazy”
She's not crazy. Just broken.
When Vi says "it's okay." after Silco dies really cemented Jinx in her point of no return. That little innocent "it's okay" was truly devastating, because although Vi ment it with good intentions as a way to resasure her sister. Jinx could tell it was insincere. Because she knew Vi couldn't care less about Silco, so of course it would be okay to Vi. But for Jinx, she had just killed the one person who loved her the way Vi did when she was Powder, but as Jinx. And also she in that same moment she came to the conclusion that Vi would never be able to love her that same way she used to because all Vi wanted was Powder and all Jinx has to offer is Jinx. To be Powder again she'd have to sacrifice being Jinx all together and that's a pretty big ask.
Funny because Silco also says "it's okay" to Jinx after Vi leaves her. But his was 100% sincere.
I understand your point but I think Vi was sincere. She saw in Silco's last moments with Jinx, that he really cared for her, and that they had a true father/daughter relationship.
When Vander, her second father, died due to Powder's mistakes, Vi was so outraged she said horrible things to Powder and turn her back on her on the moment, which, as a result, turned Powder into Jinx (but Powder was still inside like we could see it when they first meet years after).
Here, The history repeats itself :Jinx killed Silco, her third father who, like Vander, truly cared about her.
This time, Violet did what she should have done for Powder, she tried to console her and told her everything will be okay. I think she wanted to be there for her and do things right this time.
However, after suffering rejection from Vi in the past, after giving her the chance to chose between her or Caitlin (even if it was twisted) and see she still couldn't chose her, she fully embrace the Jinx side because although Silco was a ruthless crime lord, he fully accepted Powder over everything else, and would have given up on his ambitions, waged war and massacred the entire Government of Piltover while Vi couldn't kill a single person.
When Vi and Jinx first met, Jinx told her, "Powder fell down on a wall". Latter, Jinx invited her to kill Caitlin so she can have Powder back. Jinx couldn't become Powder without Vi's help. I think by her words, Vi wanted to help Powder to get out of the well.
Now I understand "you'll never love me like you used to"
Was kinda confused cuz I still thought Vi loved her the same more than ever
Having to come back to a completely different version of your sister and still chasing her back, I thought was amazing
But it's true isn't it? She'll never loved her as Jinx the same
Even so, she was willing to protect her sister without the blink of an eye when Silco picked up the gun to shoot her. As much as she chose to be Jinx in the end, you also see that her love for Vi means more than anything or anyone.
@@cw1345 nah she just went crazy that time and accidentally hit Silco
That moment of Jinx putting her hands up and giving the innocent doe expression and then turning into the sadistic smile was so well done. The expressions in this show are off the charts
I know, holy crap this scene was a masterpiece.
And her eye going purple to scarlet
She had galeforce
It was extremely hot
It's really a brilliant callback to the scene where Vi tells Caitlyn she used to chase the monsters away to protect her sister, and implied Silco was a monster. Now she is the one making the monsters bigger, while Silco is trying to chase them away. If you look at the pacing of the scene, it even seems that Silco is shooting at the monsters, and after he does they disappear forever. It's like he sacrificed himself so his daughter could be free forever from her monsters, and he succeeded.
Holy shit
totally wrong lol.
And that’s why jinx said she’s changed
@@jonhathaway2537 ?
Nah he was just trying to kill Vi because she threatened his hold on Jinx. In the end, Jinx killed the real monster and was the one that protected her sister this time, and then Jinx became her own monster herself after.
Before, we didn't understand the weird relationship between Silco and Jinx and if he was just manipolating her to fight his war, but at the end he showed his true emotions and man, when you feel bad for a villain you know he's been made damn right
nono, when you hate a villian is when you know he's been made right.
silco was a monster tho
I love how he didn't turn out to be a typical, CEO villain that stands on top, manipulating everything and caring for no one. However, as time went by I realized that he has a human side too.
@@lucifeers3219 yep that's why i love villains like this, it remind me to Meruem from HxH, both are presented like the typical bad guy, but in reality they have much more depth on it, when you can undestand and emphitize them you know that it's a nicely write villain
He definitely was more than manipulating her to fight his war even from ACT 2. There were multiple times when Jinx went off and did her own thing, potentially causing problems and being a hindrance as Savika tells him multiple times, but every time, Silco defended her.
The only time he got angry was when Jinx went and killed enforcers on top side, but he let it go when Jinx showed him the complete hex crystal and even when Jayce asked for Jinx in exchange for allowing Zaun independence, he took responsibility for Jinx saying he ordered her to do it so it was his fault, when it was actually her going off doing her own thing.
Are they really villains, though? To me it feels like they're just people doing whatever it takes just to survive.
It's weird seeing Caitlyn having Jinx's weapon. But, it suits her apparently.
the moment i saw jinx move like that, I immediately got Harley Quin & Juri Vibes 😅 They all must be related!
We need a "caitlyn" jinx skin now
let's admit that Caitlyn with any gun or something similar to a gun would look good no matter what
A weapon like that is a bit too crude for her though. Cait prefers precision.
I liked the weapon swap in this scene, it wasn't only Cait having Jinx's machine gun, Jinx had Vi's gauntlet to bring "Cait's snack" on the table, and then Vander also used Jinx's zapper trying to kill Vi. Attention to details, yet again.
One thing I thought of is how much Silco must genuinely HATE Vi with a passion.
He took in this super traumatized little girl, whose first interaction with him is to jump at him for comfort because her sister just abandoned her. He sympathizes due to his own relationship with Vander, and eventually grows to love her as his daughter. It is made clear in the show that she's been dealing with her trauma and has been a "problem" for a long time, jinxing their jobs a lot according to Sevika. So Silco has been dealing with her mental health issues for a long time, and knows a big part of it is because of her sister. He has been (admittedly terribly) parenting her to let go of who she was and embrace her anger like he did to grow stronger. He loves her deeply as his own child, and has been ignoring the issues she causes because he values her more than his goal.
Then Vi shows up and Jinx gets super confused about her loyalties and who to trust. Silco is probably really afraid of losing her, and just wants Vi gone. And then Jinx almost dies on the bridge. And most importantly, when Silco arrives, Vi is nowhere to be seen, having gone with Caitlyn. His daughter is practically dead, and her sister seemingly has left her to die, again. The next time Silco sees Jinx she knocks him out thinking he will give her up for Zaun, she talks about how he was going to stab her in the back. And he hears Vi tell her that they can leave together and "you will never have to see him again Powder". And Silco's response is "HER NAME IS JINX". He genuinely must absolutely hate Vi, and of course just wants her dead for all that she's done.
He tries to convince Jinx that she doesn't have to worry about him betraying her, because she is his daughter and he would never do it. And when Caitlyn gets the gun he is again just super scared she will get hurt. Finally, Vi proceeds to give Jinx a PTSD episode telling her to picture people he KNOWS cause torment her constantly and this is when he just LOSES IT, like manic animal kind of fury towards this chick. And it honestly makes complete sense.
He's heavily manipulative to Jinx anyway.
He doesn't just talks about Vi, he talks about Vander too. Who didn't ever betray Jinx from her POV at any time yet he says that Vander betrayed them. Vi from her POV can be seen as someone that betrayed her, but not Vander.
Of course he was affraid when Caitlyn is threatening her. If Jinx lost here, he'd lose everything, not just her.
When the tables turned, he tries to manipulate her again to finish the job. While Vi this whole time was on both sides Cait and Jinx sides, she was genuine.
@@adrien4269 I think Silco was referring to Vander betraying him by trying to drown him in acid, and betraying the undercity by going "soft." Nobody alone betrays both of them, but both of them have been betrayed.
And if he really valued his initial goal more than Jinx, he'd actually have a lot to gain by letting Caitlyn kill Jinx. That would have fulfilled his end of the deal for the nation of Zaun.
When Jinx knocks Caitlyn out, he doesn't manipulate her, he straight up just tells her to finish the job, which makes sense from his point of view. Caitlyn is from Piltover, which he hates, and she obviously will take them both down if she gets the chance again. It would be a liability for Jinx to let her live. Plus, she just threatened/shot at the person he considers his daughter.
Point is, while Silco obviously screwed up raising Jinx and isn't a shining paragon of virtue, he truly cares for Jinx and has done everything he thinks will help her, with no secrets or lies between them. (He trusted that Marcus had killed Vi, and he had never intended to sell Jinx out to gain independence for the undercity.) That makes him a far more complex and enjoyable character than the usual "stone cold mob boss" archetype.
@@andrelin4345 Nah Silco projected a lot of his mess with Vander on Jinx’s relationship with her sister and knowingly lied about it.
Jinx was not betrayed… her sister was drugged, kidnapped and arrested and Silco was the main culprit for her disappearance/death.
I think the main reason Silco's parenting is not excellent .it's because he carries his own trauma . Vander turning his back on him and nearly killing him + near death experience and Undercity not being free from Piltover and having devastating losses has took a toll on him . His issues was never really resolved . He just somehow put himself together . He possibly expected Jinx to do the same . And from what i have seen , Silco didn't properly manipulated her . More like he just taught her lessons from his life like how any parent would do . So it was a traumatized parent taking care of a traumatized child .
@@adrien4269 "He's heavily manipulative to Jinx anyway." You can say this same thing about Vander he also manipulated both of them and thought them how to do 'jobs' that were dangerous and illegal it's obvious that Vander would use VI and Jinx this same way as Silco if they grew up.
"Who didn't ever betray Jinx from her POV at any time yet he says that Vander betrayed them." Vander betrayed a vison that both Jinxed and Silco shared of free undercity, Vander was the one that betrayed everyone in undercity by having a deal with enforcers he was their guard dog that would never bite. Both Jinxed and Vi didn't know about it so yea he betrayed them.
"Of course he was afraid when Caitlyn is threatening her. If Jinx lost here, he'd lose everything, not just her." If Jinx lost here then Caitlyn would arrest them and that would be in accord to a peace treaty and Silco's dream would happen, if Silco didn't care about Jinx he would let her go through PTSD so that they can arrest her in a weakened state.
"When the tables turned, he tries to manipulate her again to finish the job." Winning here would mean loss of his dream that he killed multiple people to bring. At the end she Jinxed his dream.
"While Vi this whole time was on both sides Cait and Jinx sides, she was genuine." She was not on Jinx's side she tried to safe herself from pain that she caused to Powder in redeeming Jinx she wanted to redeem herself, she didn't want to accept that Powder that she knew is gone which was her biggest mistake I mean she gave her PTSD because she didn't understand how thinking about the family Powder accidently killed is what is causing her harm and transformation in the first place. Still Silco offered himself to die for Jinx it would be good to see Vi trying this same to save Powder.
It's so interesting to me that the very same people Vi tells Jinx to remember are her triggers but Vi doesn't get it. To Vi, they lift her up (just like when Vander appeared to her in a fight with Sevika), and she so desperately wants Powder back that she doesn't see that it's hurting her.
With all due respect to the character, Vi isn't intelligent enough to see that. She cannot grasp the extent of Jinx's madness, the reason for her drastic change. She thinks she can say "I forgive you" and it sets things back to normal.
@@Mediados
Intelligent isn't the word here. More like emotional intelligence: it's about empathy and understanding. It's not about regular intelligence here. Many people are smart or clever but lack emotional intelligence/emotional quotient to understand the trauma or pain of others. They can sympathize but it's truly difficult to empathize when your former loving sister has become a sociopath. It's understandable that Vi doesn't get it.
@@l.n.3372 I'd say it's a mix of both. You need intellect to understand the psychology behind her damage, but also empathy to understand what she feels like
@@Mediados
It's not intellect that allows you to understand the psychology behind it, as I've said before. Psychologist and psychiatrist aren't geniuses who understand things that dumb people cannot xD that gives them way too much credit lol. Anybody watching Arcane can understand this much because we are the audience. The reason that Vi doesn't understand is because she's in the show, and she can't view it from the outside perspective that we do.
Vi views Vander and the friends as sources of inspiration. She doesn't understand that they are triggers for Jinx and her PTSD. Meanwhile, you and I can understand this, but I am not a psychologist and you probably aren't either. Yet, we understand it because we saw Powder and her trauma and can thus understand it from a psychological perspective as the viewer. We have the advantage that Vi doesn't: we have an outside perspective.
@@l.n.3372 Oh now I see what you mean.
Yes I hadn't considered perspective.
I DONT KNOW IF ITS JUST ME, but silco and jinx's relationship creeped me the fuck out at first. but this scene where they have such an intimate father/daughter moment it just made tears run down my face. he actually really did love her, and only her. the voice acting in this was amazing. bravo to silcos voice actor, jinx's voice actor. this whole series is so good. i need a season 2 asap.
Edit: holy shit I just wanted to come back to this all of a sudden and I see I have 5k likes on it wtff THANKS YALL
You're not alone on that, I thought it was some sick, weird relationship but the longer it went on the more I saw the parental relationship they were aiming for.
Season 2 is in production trailer for it came out today
It was always framed as a father-daughter relationship but they had their intimate moments which creeped people out because intimacy is often associated with a sexual or romantic relationship. But the intimate moments between the two weren't inherently sexual/romantic, makes sense in context, and is largely a result of Jinx's abandonment issues making her clingy and acting like a child. That being said I'm sure the "too close for comfort" moments were intentional to highlight that although they do care for each other as father and daughter, it's not a healthy, functional relationship.
Honestly, it still works as a relationship. This scene just proves the love was genuine.
You can’t just say all non-socially acceptable relationships are inheritable evil and predatory.
He sees himself as her a lot, so i see how empathetic he is to her
I do really appreciate how serious Cait was. She didn't let her guard down, she clearly had her priorities: Jinx and Silco are enemies, Vi is an ally. She was fully prepared to shoot both of them, and it was only Jinx's unexpected speed that caught her by surprise.
I like to think that another reason Cait hesitated to shoot Jinx was because she couldn’t make Vi watch an enforcer kill her sister, not after she knows enforcers killed her parents
I like how they had a toxic relationship, but he still loved Jinx. This wasn't a ohh I'm using you all for power, but a situation where he genuinely cared but didn't do what Jinx needed and inadvertently harmed her more. Of course, he was still a villain, but he wasn't the stereotypical loveless monster.
This, I can agree with
someone who gets it!
@@ashyneko Literally everyone gets it. I haven’t seen a single person who genuinely hates Silco.
@@hi-there- same here! i meant people who unironically think they are in a wholesome father-daughter relationship. there was a LOT of that on twitter back when it came out. great villain though miss him x
Silco genuinely loved Jinx, but it was only inevitable that a damaged and traumatized man with unhealthy coping mechanisms running a mafia would do more damage than good to a little girl’s psyche
When Jinx kept herself from crying to honor her father's last wish, my freaking god
1:16 this is by far the scariest shot of Jinx in the entire series. You can just feel how disingenuous she is. The audience can just tell that she’s about to snap and do something evil. It’s not whether or not she’s going to do the bad thing that fears us, it’s WHEN.
I keep coming back to that part. It's so fucking scary lmao. 1:20 is scary as fuck
Uh oh, I thought she looked really cute 😭 I'm twisted
@@CrimsonRose18 is that phase shift from titanfall 2
@@lycorislune3846 but still she's able to predict what happens next in seconds because the singed give her some upgrades like she's able to predict in mere seconds before attacking similar to pilots from titanfall
My favorite part about it is how jinx herself starts laughing at 1:17 like "oh who are we deceiving".
“I’d never would have given you them… not for anything… don’t cry, you’re perfect”. That hit different af!!! Powder has been through ALOT, and the only person that saw powder for powder was Silco.
no he saw her for jinx
Vi saw Powder for Powder, Silco saw what he felt was his creation that he controlled.
@@carrastealth exactly
He was so supportive... by lying to her, telling her to ignore her trauma, mentally caging her and telling her she is perfect when she clearly has many flaws that need fixing. That is not a loving father, that's a desperate manipulator.
@@yoursonisold8743 you nailed it
silco really loved her unconditionally but a healthy dad? he never was
Let be honest, no one is expecting Silco's death to be this emotional
The small nod Silco makes after saying “You’re my daughter” as if in confirmation of the truth of his statement. The body language in this show is impeccable!
damn the way she was on edge and shot blindly out of panic is too real.. sometimes trauma/ptsd will make you hurt people in ways you never meant to, you're just acting on pure instinct in the moment :(
1:15
The innocent look on Jinx's face is perfection, I absolutely love it
Anyone else noticed how when Vi says, "She's my sister" (0:55) Jinx looks over at her and smiles a bit. And then, at 2:43 you can see Jinx has 2 specks of lights in her eyes. But at 2:56, when she opens them again after crying for Silco, her eyes become duller as she loses one of those lights. I thought that these were neat little details.
@1:38 I love this scene. Vi thinks she’s helping by having Jinx remember her past family members but these are also miserable points to Powder’s life that she wants to escapes from.
I think Silcos reason to try and shoot vi was him trying to stop her from hurting Jinx. Jinx suffers PTSD from hearing powder and her friends names which is clear whenever the names are said and the graphics of monsters start appearing. It never happens when she's called jinx. When Vi is calling her powder and naming off all of the people she inadvertently killed you can see it is doing nothing but harming her making the monsters grow in her head basically feeding her insanity. Vi talks about the symbolism of her chasing away the monsters in a previous episode but this time she's responsible for making them grow whenever she calls out the names and isn't there to chase them away. Silco understood this which makes me think out of the both of them Silco was really the one maintaining what sanity she had left. He specifically wanted powder to be gone because that name did nothing but bring her pain.
Yea makes sense he tried to help Jinx by killing her sister.Makes totally sense is not like Jinx would go rampage if she saw her sister getting killed and would have more trauma.Yoo for real you people are this stupid or just want attention cant tell.He literally wanted to kill Vi bcs he was selfish Bastard.He knew that Jinx would always choose Vi over him it wouldnt even be close.
But it would make her more insane right?!
@@ragnarstark4887 the only one who’s stupid is you getting worked up over an opinion of a show. Second off had you been right she would’ve stayed with Vi after killing Silco on accident. Powder had the strongest connection with Vi. Jinx is way more connected to Silco for the fact he raised her and even with her being crazy accepted her while Vi was trying to cling onto powder. Which is perfectly fine for her case but sadly that wasn’t the truth of who she was anymore
@@ragnarstark4887 and yes I totally want attention from someone who can’t even frame a sentence out properly
@@claggor1070 it’s a double edged sword either way it happened she was going to go insane either from Vi or from Killing Silco. Vi was trying her hardest to help but she just didn’t understand she was causing more pain for her by bringing up her trauma while Silco understood powder had to go for her to stop feeling the pain. I’m not justifying his route of trying to kill Vi but in that moment Silco was the equivalent of a father seeing someone hurting his daughter and tried to kill that person. Again not justifying it because people can’t read and for some reason get crazy when you give an opinion over a show
What kills me is how young they managed to make jinx look, she really still looks like a kid
How old is she supposed to be in this scene?
@@OnlySushiCat I think early 20's
@@OnlySushiCat officially around 17~18
@@gabberwocky7759 no
She’s still a kid
Silco died the way he lived, no letting no one to talk shit about his daughter. Was quite obvious he was going to die, but man, the way Riot made it... was perfect.
Different team worked on the show! Riot just helped publish this masterpiece by Fortiche.
No one was talking shit about Jinx here... Vi was literally trying to keep her from getting shot, lol.
@@falseprophet4927 Fortiche did the animation and visuals, but they didn't write the scrip or story.
Silco was a beautifully executed villain. His motivations and actions are consistently understandable even in his darkest moments, his personality reinforces what he does, and he's able to remain a sympathetic person even til the end. He really loved her, and that's why the character works. He's not a monster, he's a scared, lonely man who built up an entire identity around himself as armor. Jinx was the one crack he allowed, and its the one that killed him. Poetic
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Before Powder tackle/hugged Silco, he was about to stab her, he had a knife and everything. And even says to the Chem Baron lady, "I would've had your son killed for this."
This dude ain't above killing kids. But yeah I agree with everything else.
Then: “I only wanted to help!”
Now: Vi only wanted to help
Things come full circle.
Ironic
Help by what? Hurting Jinx with the past? That is ironic.
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s she didn’t mean to hurt her. Thinking of Vander and their brothers is a big comfort for Vi, she was just trying to comfort Jinx in her way. Obviously that didn’t work, but Vi doesn’t know that. Stop blaming her for everything jfc
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s She didn't mean to dumb jinx stan
Silco really did love her and he knew vi was the source of her pain in that moment
Vi is her sister at the end of the day… Silco lied all those years claiming Vi was dead and abandoned her.
@@HazelAmarie but silco never knew vi was Alive, Marcus lied to silco.
@@HazelAmarie oh yeah……
And vi was saying no to jinx even when Caitlin was pointing the gun at jinx…….
People don’t see Vi started the whole mess, similar to how jayce is the villain and not viktor
@@ibrahimsurti4922 You guys are all turned around. Yes their stories are emotionally distressing but that doesnt excuse what they have done. Silco is a mental manipulator and classic mental abuser. Yes he may love Jinx like a daughter, but he still pushed her to become an emotionally damaged crazy Jinx.
@@northstar67 After finding out that Vi was alive and was out looking for her sister he orders her death AGAIN and doesn’t bother telling Jinx about it.
Silco had everything to do with why they were separated and he never told Jinx that…Did y’all watch the show?
0:46 You can barely hear this but the subtitle confirm that Jinx hears her inner voices saying "It's time to leave them". So she raises her gun and yells with no intent of firing in the hopes of provoking Caitlyn to end it all.
Wow
Omg I didn’t realize that
Yeh, I can hear it.
"In their last moments they show you who they are" - Heath Ledger's Joker
As Joker once said "All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man or woman alive, to lunacy."
To be true here it would require powder to be sane. And she believed a person she accidentaly killed was talking to her so....
@@andreaghiretti8189 pretty sure he’s talking about what happened when she was a kid
@Durgle you probably never seen the movie or comics.
@Durgle
I think it may have been in one of the animated batman movies, probably in "under the red hood"
The symbolism of how Silco finally understood what Vander had been experiencing when he gave himself up; he had everything he wanted on the table. The Nation of Zaun, reign over topside, control of majority trade, and most of all…. Power. But in order to have it, he had to trade in one thing; Jinx. The source of a majority of his problems that had been preventing true control; and even then, he couldn’t do it. All in all, the character arc of Silco, from a cold, ruthless man with a momentous dream, to a father that would give up his dreams to keep his daughter safe. In the end, Silco went from my least favorite character, to top three.
Everyone always says that this Powder protecting Vi or Jinx choosing Vi over Silco, but I always just saw this as her reacting to the sound of a gun and firing on instinct.
And that’s why she looks so shocked after she realized what she did.
That’s exactly what it was. People saying it was sisterly instinct to protect vi are DEAD WRONG and are honestly just coping!
@@CertainlyCynical Writers confirmed that she was protecting Vi. If anyone is coping it’s you lmao
@@goomba8170 The writer in question is Amanda Overton who has said a lot of incorrect things on twitter which are at odds with what is shown in the show. She has said that Vi saw Jinx's dying body on the bridge even though the visual panned out to reveal that she couldn't see anything through the fog. She had said that Vander tried to drown Silco after adopting the kids when the visuals show them looking 20 years younger (and it wouldn't make sense anyway, since Vi and Jinx had never heard of Silco before). She is only one person out of a team of writers, who collaborated with hundreds of other people, including animators who often added their own spin to the series that the writers didn't come up with.
Using Twitter as your encyclopedia on what goes on in the show, instead of the show itself is an incredibly immature way to engage with media. Word of God is not the definitive take on the series. Use your own brain to interpret what's happening and what the characters are thinking based on the actual text, not tweets.
Thinking Jinx was trying to save Vi is a fine interpretation. But thinking she had no awareness of her surroundings during her panic attack/psychotic episode and desperately acted out is also perfectly supported by the show.
@@ahsink.3080 I completely agree. Amanda's name wasn't written in the beginning of episode 9, where they usually write the writers for each episode when the theme song is playing. Alex and Christian and a bunch of other writers names were there but not hers. And after watching the Behind the scenes episodes of the main writers and producers when they were working on the show, it was shown that it was Christian and Alex who wrote the last scene. Also Christian said that Alex was the one responsible for writing any Silco/Jinx dialogue on reddit, so there's that. I really think one of them should've answered this question, not someone who wasn't directly involved in the writing of that specific episode. (since her name wasn't written in the beginning of ep 9, it was written in other episodes though just not this one) and to quote someone on reddit "Jinx's whole motif in life is that she hurts the people she loves, why would vi be any different? (true cuz in episode 3 she was going to die because of the explosion that powder caused if it wasn't for vander) why with vi she would supernaturally be incapable of physically hurting? it doesn't make sense."
Silco was trying to protect Jinx from Vi. What Vi said did hurt Jinx, she was suffering. That ist why Silco was raging that much.
Why is everyone blaming everything on Vi? Like vi was in prison. Jinx killed vander and the friends on accident. And killed silco not because of Vi. She’s mentally unstable that it that’s all. More so cause of mylo. Vi had a right to be mad at powder for accidentally killing those people. Stop blaming vi for everything
@@artfaist That's not the point. He was talking about the moment. Vi didn't knew that mentioning Mylo and Claggor would bring up bad memmories. Silco knew it though because Jinx always told him about her dreams and ptsd attacks. That doesn't mean that Vi is a bad person. Silco just saw her daughter in pain IN THAT MOMENT so he was raging so much.
@@artfaist no one was blaming Vi. Jinx was suffering from a ptsd attack, and Silco noticed. Thats why he tried to shut Vi up, so he could calm Jinx down
@@khoinguyen5004 Aiming a gun at Vi and shooting her isn’t calming anything down
@@HazelAmarie read my comment again. He aimed the gun at Vi to shut her up, not calming Jinx down
I’m sick of people villainizing Vi. Yes, she didn’t accept that Jinx had changed and she put her in a triggering situation. But y’all gotta remember that Vi is in a huge amount of denial. This poor woman has been through a lot of shit too. She’s trying to keep the one person she has left in her life and try to bring her back. Vi lost everyone, and at the end of the day she’s a girl who wants her sister back. Jinx is like that too.
Thank you. I am not the only one lol. Thing is people would like to choose what they like to see but fail what is essentially right.
The problem in this Is that people can't fully put themselfs in their positions, when your watching a show/movie reading a books or whatever you can just say "damn they're so dumb for doing this i would have done this" but if they were in this character position they probably wouldn't do what they say they will, bc that implies having pass through all this character pass through having to feel their pain and pressure and honestly having characters fail and not tooking the best decisions its what makes them more realistic
@@krisg5078 well, I think that someone certain fails to see what motivated powder do become jinx to begin with: big amount of inferiority complex. And vi was the biggest source of them.
Of course she doesn’t accept that. Why would you blindly accept a murderer. Especially seeing how she went from fighting to survive and help her family to being a part of the group that’s poisoning the people
Like it’s a tragic story. It’s sad that Powder is like this now.
She had extreme abandonment issues as a kid and was already a bit on the unhinged side (which is understandable given her age and what she had experienced) and then Silco, while he did actually care about her very very deeply, groomed her into a weapon and pushed her psychotic behavior further and further.
@@themimsy this!
It's the mental conflict for me, Jinx loves Silco, but Powder loves Vi, but as soon as Silco tries to kill Vi, the pan balance tipped, that wasn't supposed to happen. When one threatens the other, the need to protect the defenseless one sparks, causing Powder to kill Silco. Perhaps if Silco didn't reach for the gun, but instead kept yelling with Vi, the conflict between Powder and Jinx would continue. Though, it would be likely that Jinx would win, killing Caitlyn in the process. Or, what if Vi had the gun instead, would Jinx kill Vi? That's a rather tricky one. Well, no matter which path she travels, regret will follow all of them. Losing Silco, or Vi, or fully becoming the jinx Vi saw her as in their childhood if she killed Caitlyn.
"You're my daughter, I'll never forsake you"
Did I cry or did I cry 🥲
I cried
Something that always touches me is how Silco’s last words are reaffirming to Jinx that he loves her no matter what, and that he would have never betrayed her. Their father-daughter bond was the best part of an already-perfect show for me, and the fact that the villain’s death made me cry more than any other on the show is a testament to the quality of writing.
Thank you to everyone involved in this masterpiece, this show is truly lightning in a bottle and I hope season 2 continues with this level of quality.
All of these characters are simultaneously multiple things at once, and all the characters contribute to the tragedy at the end while never being ENTIRELY responsible. That’s what makes the story amazing.
Silco loved Jinx but he was also toxic, incredibly possessive, a liar, tried to kill Jinx’s family multiple times, and pushed Jinx to continue making Hextech even as it traumatized her. He was a good father who loved her as murdering maniac, but he was a terrible father who could ONLY love her as a murdering maniac. He both protected and enabled the worst in Jinx/Powder.
Vi was a good, very protective sister. But she also got Jinx in the whole mess by taking her on these heists that Vander warned her about, convinced Powder to hide the Hextech gemstones from Vander, punched her in frustration, and then unfortunately abandoned Powder in her greatest time of need, which of course Marcus really made worse. (Although you could even argue Marcus was just doing it to protect Vi from getting murdered by Silco. On the other hand, Marcus could’ve also just gone after Silco himself, but this is what makes Marcus a flawed character). Ultimately Vi also helped create the monster too. Not out of entirely bad intentions, but, just like Silco, out of flawed parenting. And also just like Silco, she could only love a PART of Jinx/Powder. She had the SAME parenting flaw as Silco, and this conflict broke something in Jinx.
Finally, Jinx/Powder is responsible for her own creation too. They allude to her unstable mental state as a child when she’s freaking out after she’s told she can’t go help save Vander. She jumps to conclusions about everyone. She’s shown mercy by Ekko but still (possibly suicidally?) tries to blow everyone up. This physical trauma leads to her chemtech treatment that further maddens her. She’s very much a victim throughout her story, especially when you consider how much she’s gone through at a young age, but she also isn’t absolved of responsibility.
What makes this story great, a tragedy, and a GREAT tragedy, is not that some sad stuff happened that we can all finally understand by debating it until we arrive at its one true interpretation. It’s a great tragedy because some sad stuff happened that was both inevitable and INTENTIONALLY endlessly debatable.
Everyone in this comment thread is 100% RIGHT in their character interpretations and 100% WRONG in presenting their interpretations as authoritative.
Good stories are ambiguous. Life is ambiguous. Yeesh.
Very well put.
@I - Rout Did still enable her bad actions, though. Partially because he isn't exactly morally good either but the problem with Silco is that he's the kind of father that lets their child do basically whatever they want. He tells her she's perfect, which is kind of good because Jinx wants to hear that...but he also lets her spiral out of control and hurt other people. He cares when she hurts herself in her mental state but he doesn't care when her actions hurt others.
@I - Rout He didn’t really say that. Silco helped create Jinx in a way as he encouraged Jinx to let go of Powder. He loved her unconditionally but in his own flawed way.
We cannot say that completely because we only know what their relationship was like when Jinx grew up, not her uprbringing with Silco.
@I - Rout If he loved her unconditionally, then why did he spend several scenes trying to get her to "kill" the Powder side of herself? He only loved "Jinx"; he tried to get rid of "Powder." Doesn't really sound unconditional.
Powder killed Silco. But in return, Jinx killed Powder.
deep
Powder did the last thing to protect Vi despite everything DANG....
Its crazy and sad that Vi said things are fine and that they'll be okay after jinx just killed someone that was close to her. Vi never understood how much silco meant to jinx
And probably never will
Especially if vi becomes am enforcer.
Because to her he’s the man who killed who she was closest to.
@@wut-dah_7212 obviously but even if you believe your sister is brainwashed or not she obviously attached to self to someone who is bad. Rather it was manipulation or not. So she even said it's okay like she knew something bad went down
Vi was in prison for six years, she had just met her again after a long time and the FireLight attacked.
Vi even is surprised when she sees Ekko in their reunion scene and she outright says that she remembers how he wouldn't even be able to stand up to her in the scene, in a proud manner. Because she was also having difficulties on wrapping her head around the passing of time and the fact that Ekko wasn't the "Little Man" she had known anymore.
To her it was just knowing what was going on after she was kept far away from everyone she loved and cared for for six years, just like someone who suffered amnesia or stood out of the loop for a long after something happened to them.
Vi didn't had any visitors in prison to tell her what was happening outside Stillwaters, apart from Caitlyn just before she gets freed, she's still learning how things are, how could she possibly know that? And Vi didn't WILLINGLY abandoned Powder to Silco, she was captured and forcibly dragged away after being knocked out by drugs on a tissue.
How can Vi could know about what twisted relationship Powder could have with Silco while she was literally buried in Stillwaters (her arrest wasn't even in the records nor her allegations for being there, Caitlyn clearly states that when she goes to speak with Vi) especially if the two sisters never talked about it and didn't even had a moment to catch up? The only things Vi knew about the relationship between her long lost sister and Silco are Ekko's words, also Jinx never, EVER told anything to Vi about that.
Here Vi is trying to comfort Jinx as much as she can, for as far as she knows about how much Silco meant for Jinx and you can't pretend Vi accepting what her little sister become in so few days since being released from prison. Or at gunpoint, just like in the scene where Jinx asks Vi to kill Caitlyn if she wants Powder back. It takes time for that, and both of them didn't have none to sit down and try to find a common ground from where rebuild their relationship. It wouldn't have been like in the past, but I am sure that Vi would've done the effort to understand everything even for just to reconnect with the sister she never stopped to care and search even while she was in prison if given time.
Man, the voice actors in this show is INCREDIBLE!
Okay here's another reason for you to cry for Silco's death. In earlier episodes, when Sevika was making her choice about betraying Silco or not, we saw that Silco is actually afraid of death! It just makes this scene much more meaningful because he didn't show any sign of fear or anger to Jinx in his final moments. He choose to comfort her because he didn't want to be one of the whispers that are torturing her.
I was really hoping Silco wouldn’t die, I loved his character and relationship with jinx, he gave her a home and purpose, he really did love her, but schizophrenia can be a harmful, powerful thing, I ended up wanting the villains to win. Honestly, arcane is so amazing.
No, they gave Silco a great end. And his death is fuel for the fire that is Jinx in season 2
He'll live on... in Jinx's mind....
Vi didn't even realize it, but she was inducing trauma into Jinx. All those names she was forced to remember were just her worst moments, and it didn't let her think clearly. Vi is a primary source of Jinx's trauma, and here she was making it worse for Jinx again
While I love all the theories of when jinxes face goes blank in 2:59 it’s Silco joining the voices in her head I had a different/second half part to the theory.
Putting mental health on the table you can see the exact moments almost frame by frame how her sorrow vanishes because she’s dissociating. Her eyebrows soften, her lip drops, her entire face just relaxes and her eyes are just a void because she isn’t there. Her emotions, reactions, trauma, triggers, her entire subconscious has taken over (which had already been the case from the start so this is it being a breaking point intensity) and she’s no longer here, hiding somewhere safe in her brain while this part of her she’s created through all her pain to front instead, because this version of her is ruthless, murderous, and it’s all to protect “powder” but this new side of jinx that Vi views as powder is just the humane side to jinx many don’t believe exist.
Agreed, it's what happens eit D.I.D a personality locks away the real person for protection and in most cases doesn't comeback
I've always wondered why they framed the scene like this 2:47 and I realized it shows that all through out the show jinx was lost (thus showing a dark path behind her symbolizing a struggle of her identity and worth) and after hearing silco's last words it came down to self acceptance flaws and all (thus showing light behind silco and framing jinx's sit). after that realization the voices 2:53 didnt made her anxious like before, instead she had a calm expression like everything is clear. so SHE CHOSE jinx.
This scence is such a tragedy.
On one hand, Silco was a father to Jinx but he also ennabled her worst tendecies in a misguided way to make tought enought to survive Zaun, driving her further into maddness. He conffussed helping Jinx with projecting his own traumas into Jinx, literally molding her into an insane version of himself. His love was genuine and equally toxic
Vi, on the other hand, clearly loves her sister back, but is equally affraid and disturbed of Jinx. She cant accept what "Powder" to Jinx is emotional pain. Just like in real life, reminding traumatissed people of theor past is emotional painfull and traumatising. Vi is trying to put Jinx in a mold what she no longer fits.
Both Vi and Silco, were the greatest and worst thing to ever happen to Jinx
You are right. The "Vi good Silco bad" people and the "Silco good Vi bad" people aren't giving this show any credit for how nuanced it is
Jinx has accidentally killed every person she's ever loved except for her sister, who wouldn't be crazy after that?
Okay, I rewatched Arcane enough times to be able to write my little essay about Jinx and Silco's relationship.
I was watching videos about Arcane after I completed the series and in the comments there were so many people thinking that Silco just used Jinx and even in his death he still tried to manipulate her. While I can understand where they're coming from, I believe that they didn't took his character development into consideration.
He started off as a general EVIL, doing everything he can to achieve his goals, no matter the cost. Then he met this little girl who accidentaly killed her family and her sister abandoned her (in Powder's POV). He felt a connection to her, shared her feeling of betrayal and decided to take her in. Maybe it really was for to use her as an asset, we don't know for sure. But he took her in.
Then we skip a few years and while we still saw the same Silco, he's completely different with Jinx. The first scene they shared he asked her point of view on the cargo incident instead of punishing her outright. Sevika made it clear that she was a liability, that she caused more problems than she solved, but Silco defended her. If he really was using her, why defend her when she clearly just destroyed a part of his crime net? He was patient with her, never raising his voice to reprimand her, instead he kept his cool and even asked her to take some time off to organise her thoughts, since he understood why she had snapped in the first place. When she went off to do her own thing and killed those enforcers, he clearly was angry, but I never had the feeling that he would hit her, no matter how enraged he would get. We saw later on that when Vi managed to escape that he killed his subordinates without a second thought, he was screaming with rage, but with Jinx he never even made a move towards her (notice how he turned off her music and took her pen away when she was ignoring him instead of touching her shoulder or her head to keep her attention on him. He clearly was careful with her, even when he was angry.)
Then she had problems with the Gemstone. She went to him and told him what was troubling her and Silco took his time to take her to the waters where he almost drowned to explain his opinion on the matter, instead of just telling her in his office. He showed that whatever Jinx had problems with mattered to him and he didn't just shrugged them off as so many parents do. Yes, he clearly projected his own feelings onto her, but I don't think he did it just to destabilize her further. He felt that this method he'd gone through worked on him, so he believed that it would help her too. But as it's said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Then he got the intel that Vi is back. I don't know why people think that he lied to her that Vi was dead when it was clear that he also believed that to be true. And then he went to Marcus to tell him that he knows he lied to him and that he won't tolerate it the next time. Yes, he then kept this from Jinx and tried to kill Vi before she could meet with her sister, but I think this was a response coming from fear. Don't forget that he also had experience with betrayal and probably had abandonment issues like Jinx. I think it wasn't that he could lose a valuable asset (and she wasn't even that helpful since she usually screwed up), but that he could lose his daughter. He saw Vi as a threat which could take Jinx away from him (probably the only person who could take her away from him) and he lashed out without thinking, trying to deal with the problem as soon as he could.
When Jinx reappeared and was obviously pissed, he didn't try to fight her off. He tried to explain his POV to her and of course he didn't know that Vi had no idea about the Gemstone, but at that point he, once again, was responding from fear and projected his issues onto Jinx and Vi's relationship. Again, to keep his daughter by his side and not to be left alone all over again.
Up until this point, I can understand why people think he was manipulating her. Hell, even I had doubts. But the bridge scene showed to me that he really cared. Jinx wasn't conscious, so she couldn't see his worry and only his gorillas were there, but he still hugged her close to him and appeared completely vulnerable. What kind of mob boss does that in front of his employees? There was nothing for him to gain at that moment, yet he still showed his worry and fear for Jinx's life. Then he rushed to Singed, silently begging him to save her and I really loved the question "Are you prepared to lose her?" and Silco's response to that. It completely caught him off-guard and the look on his face made it evident that no, he wasn't ready to lose her. I think until that moment, even he himself didn't realise how much Jinx really means to him. (And Singed had to sedate him, because he knew no father could see his child in pain and even he thought that Silco 100% would've tried to stop the procedure.)
Then, of course, the scene with Jayce. He got offered everything he ever wanted, everything he fought, the people he killed, it would've all been worth it - but he had to give up Jinx for it. He literally faced the dilemma we, the viewers wanted him to face: Zaun or Jinx? Which one is more important to him? I believe that the broken and defeated look he gave when Jayce left wasn't like "Oh fuck, what am I going to do?", it was more like "Oh fuck, I'm really going to cause a war." He wasn't struggling with the decision: by the time Jayce left him, he already made his decision, he was just coping with what it will cause. (Also, the moment Jayce asked for Jinx, Silco immediately threw himself under the bus for her, just like Vander did for his kids.) That monologue by Vander's statue was also about him coping, not about his struggle to make the decision. Of course, Jinx had no idea, so she also lashed out to protect herself from another betrayal. She wanted to hurt Silco before he could hurt her.
And finally, the tea party. Many thinks he tried to save his life, so he told Jinx that he would never give her up, but we already saw him taking responsibility for her actions in front of Jayce, ready to go to Stillwater for her, so I believe he was telling the truth. And also, him trying to shoot Vi. I don't think it was because of his fear that with bringing up Mylo, Clagger and Vander, Jinx would side with Vi, but because he probably knew that reminding her to them wasn't reassuring, but traumatising. We saw Jinx telling him that she keeps seeing them that day and it was clear that it wasn't a happy vision, like Vi's with Vander. I think his struggle there was about making Vi shut up because he could see that she was hurting Jinx (not her intention, clearly, but she just didn't know, again proving that she didn't know her sister that well anymore) and he wanted this to stop. Like any father, he wanted to protect his daughter and even in death, he tried to soothe her, so in her mind he wouldn't become another Mylo or Claggor.
And the line, "You're perfect." Before, he declared that Powder was weak and Jinx was perfect, further fueling the manipulative trope. But here, he said "You're perfect." I think that in his final moments, he wanted to reassure her that no matter who she chooses to become, what she does in the future, she would always be perfect for him. He made the mistake many parents do, thinking that their child is perfect and can do no wrong, but I think here he just wanted Jinx to know that he loves her unconditionally, giving her the type of trust and belief no one, not even Vi had given her before ("You're not ready", when they left her behind to save Vander and it triggered a mental breakdown for her.)
Silco wasn't a perfect father, that I agree with. But he truly loved Jinx as his own and did his best to guide her and he made mistakes in the parenting, but every parent makes mistakes (his caused people to die). I think I could summarise this little essay with this: he's the type of villain who doesn't care about anything or anyone beside his goal in life, but try to touch his daughter and he will burn down the world, even destroy the very thing he was fighting for before. Because in the end, she's the one who matters the most.
Nah he just didn't want Vi taking her away. He never tried to understand her mental issues. When she told him she was seeing things that weren't there he just told her to finish the weapon. That doesn't seem like a person who really cares for her mental health. Idk why people try to make Silco out to be some hero. He manipulated and gaslit her all her life. Plus it was stupid of him to think jinx would just stand by and let him kill her sister. If anything seeing her father figure kill her sister would cause more trauma, but people don't want to talk about that. Stop romanticizing Silco he's a bad dude.
@@Thatone10 he didn't kill Vi though, you can see where his shot landed.
Respect. Seriously. This is a great essay!
I didn’t even notice Silco trying to shoot Vi in this scene, the only thing that stood out to me was how she remembered her family: as monsters in her head
I really feel like Vi made Jinx's mental state so much worse in this whole scene. She really empowered her PTSD and the voices in her sister's head.
This animation is truly showing us how human is. Everyone just wants what they want and they're all made a mistake and regret it. Just like others and that's so amazing. I love them so much TT
fucking hell the way Silco's trying to break free from the ropes when he realized what Vi's words were doing to Jinx. He was ready to pounce and kill for his daughter.
Silco's final lines really show just how much he genuinely loves and understands Jinx and how he wants to reassure her so he can pass away without worry.
_"I never would have given you to them, not for anything."_
He understood that Jinx felt betrayed and confused and wanted to correct her misunderstanding and reassure her of just how much she meant to him. He would've given up his entire dream and everything he built for her sake, and that nothing he ever said to her was a lie.
_"Don't cry."_
He understood that Jinx would've blamed herself once more and that no one would be able to comfort and console her, he didn't want Jinx to burden herself with his death because he understood her confusion and impulsive actions and that it was an accident. He knew she didn't mean it and he wanted her to know he still forgives her.
_"You're perfect."_
Finally, he wants Jinx to know that regardless of what happens after, he will always accept and love her regardless. That no matter what she feels, what she does, and what she burns, she will always be Jinx, and that she never needed her to be anything more or less than herself.
Was interesting to see the passives from game in the show , we saw vi passsive save her vs sevika and jinx 'Got excited' to take back her gun.
i just like to think that after she killed silco she just got her passive and after doing his R thing she went full move speed lol
That wasn’t vi’s passive, that’s her W. Her passive is the 3 hit armor peel
@@readyjoe6427 bro he's talking about the shield passive, not the armor one
@@MeDicenPacho ah wait yeah, I’ve been playing to much wild rift. On there her passive is denting blows, but on the actual league game it’s her shield.
@@readyjoe6427 ohh
1:15 i dont care what anyone says. She is just so darn adorable with her hands up
A few comments I saw on here made me really think. Jinx saw powder as a monster because she (unintentionally) killed her friends and family, and now felt she had to kill her off because powder then also killed her only father figure since vi was taken. Vi sees jinx as a monster but that she can get powder back. Jinx killed powder to protect silco but after powder killed him to save vi. Jinx created vi as an enforcer and vi created jinx. I love every single part about this show, I’m hoping that they can have some sisterly bond still in season 2, even tho we all know it’s not going to be like it was before.
"Don't cry you're perfect"
~Silco
Something I really appreciate in this show is how well it portraits emotions.
I watched the scenes with Jinx and Vi so many times now and realized things that went over my head the first time I watched it.
Like I first thought that Vi abandoned Powder because that's how Powder interpreted it since she's so scared of being left behind for being a jinx. But Vi actually just wanted a break to calm down and collect her thoughts, since she was in a upset state where she couldn't control herself and her emotions properly and therefore lashed out on Powder.
And when Vi tried to reach out to Powder thinking that the thoughts of their family where pleasant memories for both but for Powder those memories where her demons, her guilt, her trauma. She didn't meant to hurt her sister, only to help but she didn't understand Powder's feelings, which I didn't understood the first time either.
Hollywood usually makes us believe that emotions are visible, anything you can see on the screen is what's actually going on in their heads but that's so far from the reality.
Everybody interprets things differently, have different feelings about things and sometimes actions comes from a different place than what it looks like it does.
And I just feel like this show really showed that, especially with the sisters
The way she says stop in 1:42 breaks my heart
I like to believe it’s this moment that Vi finally understands why powder sided with Silco, not because of any brainwashing but genuine care. For the first time, Vi probably sees Silco in a different light as a person with a gentler side
2:54 I’m surprised no one has theorized that Silco joined Jinx in her head, like Mylo and Claggor, after his death by her hand. There’s a brief moment where she loses her expression and you hear subtle whispering before she decided to fully embrace herself as Jinx.
You know… I didn’t even realized that…
that’s so interesting
That sad now I am sad
Can someone translate the whispers...
Man, I’m practically dry when it comes to crying over movies or tv shows but Arcane really had me in tears. when Silco used his last moments to tell her he loved her and she was perfect I just started bawling like a baby
Craziest thing is that Silco legitimately even until his dying breath loved Jinx as his daughter
One small detail that people don’t notice that I love that they put in is right after Silco says you’re perfect, if you watch his bad eye, the burning yellow color starts fade away as he dies
Even when Jinx would mess up almost every one of Silcos plans, he still never gave up on Jinx. Even after Jayne gives him the future he always wanted and after Jinx accidently kills him, he still reassures her that theres nothing wrong with her....
Say what you want about Silco but at the end of the day, he truly loved Jinx as his own daughter! He loved Jinx for who she is now. Not what she used to be like Vi does.....
the moment i saw jinx move like that, I immediately got Harley Quin & Juri Vibes 😅 They all must be related!
the fact that juri did a similar movemebt in her anime movie too lol
Just stop comparing "Jinx" is Jinx she have her own character
@@jcguidotti5934 1 not compairing, just saying the scene had a similar feel to other characters actions. 2 jinx is her own character and has been for a long time nobody said she wasnt
To be technical she was based off the joker
So she got powers from the shimmer variant?
I like how the voices in her head are fading away as she mourns her father’s death. Like they don’t have control over her anymore.
I’m not sure about that. I think they will always be there. I think she was just used to them
@@winxbuneari5430 it has to mean something. There was an emphasis on that.
1:20 i love the light trails they add whenever someone takes shimmer, it makes the speed feel almost alien to the speed of everything else
I love how a lot of the people who say Jinx is too far gone hesitate to kill her when she gives the puppy eyes XD
I can't ignore the fact that when Vi was shouting names and Jinx was having a "breakdown", Silco lost his mind and tried to protect is daughter
Silco's final act was to comfort the scared little girl that came into his life.
Who else just loved the animation when jinx took the gun from Caitlyn? Went from the soft scared powder, to the resolved calculated confident jinx. And then just this animalistic takeover move ♥️😍 it is pure awesomeness 🎉❤
For once it feels like everyone is in agreement with how good of a character Silco was. He cared about her so much. He wanted to shoot Vi to shut her up. Silco isn't a good person, he's not even a good father, but he cared about Jinx. He only thought of shooting Vi in that moment as a way of helping her... which is absolutely wrong and we all know that but damn was his heart in the right place... for Jinx.
I love characters like this. Perfect villains and perfect heroes are boring. Watching Silco struggle to be Zaun's shady leader but also protect Jinx was amazing.
You can say that Silco is a "good father" as he takes care of Jinx and provides for her safety but he's just an incredibly immoral one.
He's a villain so you have to except him to do evil and villainous things as they all do.
Something I just realized is that, when Vi was listing off all the names of people Jinx killed, Silco knew that what she was was only hurting and scaring her. Which is why he was fighting so hard to shoot Vi rather than convince Jinx to be on his side
Shooting vi would’ve made shit worse… that’s still her sister.
Silco needs to learn boundaries
@@HazelAmarie not saying what he was doing was right (especially with what the results of it was). Just something I picked up. While Vi didn’t notice it, Silco knew that what Vi was saying was just making Jinx suffer
@UCJP3vQmfgTvYMS3TiARRmDg and vi needs to shut the fuck up and not use trigger words that causes jinx's ptsd to surface 😤
@@asifhossain8363 That was her family at the end of the day and Vi is her sister she wasn’t intentionally trying to hurt her. Silco needs to stfu
@@asifhossain8363 and I find it odd how y’all act as if Jinx is the only one messed up as if Vi didn’t suffer just as much… she actually saw them die stfu
I feel like a lot of people don't understand; there's no going back for Jinx because there was never something to go back to. Jinx *is* Powder. They're just different names for the same person. A girl who grew up in a very violent place and suffered a lot of traumas, who is constantly tormented by the guilt of her greatest mistake. But also a girl who likes the fighting and the violence, who relishes in the chaos and destruction. Jinx's only conflicts were in her love for Vi and her guilt for Mylo and Claggor, but we've never once seen a hint that she doesn't like the person she's become, that there's some facet of Powder trapped inside that can be brought back. For better or worse, this is the person Powder has grown to be.
Верно. Ви же хотела видеть ту самую маленькую девочку, которую джинкс ненавидела всей душой и из которой давно выросла. Чего Вай понять не смогла. Джинкс хотела просто подтверждение безусловной любви к себе. Принятию после всего что она совершила и кем стала. Но Вай продолжала ей изменять раз за разом уже после возвращения из тюрьмы. Джинкс сделала правильный выбор. Она выбрала себя. Эту веру в свои силы, в то, что она сильнее своих страхов предал ей Силко. Умирая ему не за чем было врать и она поняла, что есть хотя бы один человек, который её полностью принял даже после того как она его убила. Это доказало ей её ценность. Это бесценный дар Силко.
This hits hard..when I was in my teens I had mental problems and was literally going to lose my mind.
Sometimes I didn’t know what was real and what wasn’t. How Jinx’s mental state looks so violent, it was so same to me too.
I never was a violent person but my visions and sounds I heard felt so as it is seen here too, all the same feels it’s scary.
I got better though thank God.
I'm so sorry
"I never would have given you to them, not for anything"
"Don't cry, you're perfect"
I think that these two lines were some of the most emotional lines throughout the whole show. Silco did love Jinx, not like some other shows where the father figure was just using the daughter/son and had no love. I was genuinely so scared that this would happen, but when it didn't, it added a whole other aspect to the show.
"show" you mean, right? Not "movie".
@@Gadget-Walkmen mbmb
@@katomic5219 no problem!
The fact that Silco put up with Jinx being like that tells me that he really did love her. I think he didn't originally plan to take her in, but when she clung to him like he was the only thing she had left, he accepted her, but ended up genuinely developing an attachment to her.
they gave silco the perfect expression and dying lines, goddamn such a good character man
When she looks back up after Silco dies, her eyes are totally dead. Like all the light is gone. Damn.
I genuinely believe silco breaking free wasn't so he can keep jinx (someone who he came to love as family) as a possession, but instead so he could stop her pain as he could clearly see how much she was hurting when Vi was bringing up her memories
Just as Vander taught Vi to master herself and her skills, so did Silco to Jinx by allowing her to accept herself and be at peace with her inner voices (we even hear them going away near the end as she becomes more serious after his death)
I can’t wait for season 2
0:55 i just notice jinx smiled a little when she heard vi said "she's my sister" guess happy and relieved that she didnt side with Caitlyn
2:54 Silco joined the voice chat lmao
stop lmfao
A small detail but I love the wariness in Vi's voice after Silco dies and she says "...Powder?" before trying to comfort Jinx. Kinda highlights more how Vi is still afraid of her unpredictability. I swear my heart was pounding the whole time, not sure what Jinx was going to do next. Simply amazing.
Love how Silco was ok giving you everything, even his own life, for Jinx, someone he cared about…just like he got mad and Vander for at the beginning. Absolutely superb writing!!❤️
"It all makes sense now, brother" - remember that earlier scene? He finally understood, years and years too late for it to matter.
Arcane won 9 nominations and its so fucking deserved.
The absolute PAIN in jinx’s voice in the “I’m sorry’s” is killing me
I feel like other people are supporting Vi, as well as hating on Jinx & Silco, but I have my own take on it.
Vi & Jinx/Powder:
It's pretty obvious throughout the series that Powder was always a bit unstable. She has a good mind and good intentions but she's quite clusmy so her inventions almost never work. Also seeing Mylo badmouthing her and taking things wrongly like leaving at the wrong time when Vi 'agrees' with Milo before she tells him off shows that although she has a good mind, she doesn't really try to see the full picture when it comes to emotions.
Vi was always telling Powder 'You're ready' and stuff like 'You can do it, Powder' but that one time, she didn't. Again, going back to how Powder was unstable, and the fact that kids are generally scared of being alone (even teenagers like I am), and the fact that she's unstable as a sort of amplifier, it's obvious why she broke down. When you're in a shaken up state, you often assume the worst thoughts. Powder probably thought 'Vi abandoned me! They think I'm weak' especially considering that Mylo was badmouthing her when he was alone with Vi, and even when he was with her.
When Powder wants to prove herself to her family, she ends up ruining it all. This time, the bomb actually works. Mylo and Claggor suffer instant but horrible deaths, and Vander has to sacrifice his life for Vi. Now, Powder can't see any of this going on, so she thinks that it worked, she proved herself and her family is going to be proud of her and actually see her as a hero, instead of a 'Jinx'. So when she comes to Vi saying how it worked, and she's proud of it. She's shocked to see that it KILLED her family instead of HELPED them.
Vi literally lashed out everything on Powder, which is understandable. But when she realizes what she's done and goes to cool off. Powder thinks she's abandoning her, and she's scared to follow her because she thinks Vi might attack her again. The sad thing is, that since she's in a shaken-up state. She's assuming the worse and thinks Vi is going to leave her for a 'better life' because she's a 'Jinx'. Then Silco comes and helps her.
Silco & Jinx
I see a lot of people saying Silco 'created' Jinx. but Jinx states that Jinx was created by Vi. After she slapped Powder, that was her last chance before Jinx began to take over. And yes, I'm not saying Silco is a good person. He's horrible actually, and he did manipulate Jinx to a certain extent. BUT I see people saying he manipulated Jinx that Vi was dead, and that Vi doesn't care about her anymore. This is because this is what he actually thinks.
Silco was abandoned and betrayed by Vander, but this is because they had different ideals for Zaun. And Silco is pushing that onto Jinx because he thinks that Vi left her for a better life, just like Powder. That's why when Sevika reports that Vi is back, he says "From the dead?" He knows just as little as Jinx, but people are claiming that he has some insider information.
Silco is also abusive, but not to the extent that people think. What I envision the relationship between Silco and Powder/Jinx, is that he took care of a bird with a broken wing. He didn't heal it, but he did try his best to get Jinx through what he thought she was going through, the exact same thing as he did.
Silco was giving Jinx the advice his past self would have needed, he didn't know that Marcus arrested Vi, he thought that she died after trying to leave Powder. Now when Jayce offers peace for Zaun in exchange for Jinx and others, Silco immediately offers himself. The feeling of being abandoned by family again is the worst. When they say they're only taking Jinx, Silco deeply considers it, and ultimately comes up with the conclusion that no, Zaun is not worth Jinx.
Silco is visibly worried when Jinx is dying from fighting Ekko, he knows Jinx is tough and can go through anything, so he tries to drug her with Shimmer so he can survive, however this was actually a bad option. After the tea party is at its climax, when Vi is trying to run away with Powder/Jinx, Silco is saying NO. I won't offer my daughter for Zaun's independence, why would I offer it for free? Vi hates Silco, but Silco has respect for Vi because she's Vander's daughter and is Jinx's most loved one, she loves her even more than Silco himself.
Vi starts to hurt Powder/Jinx again. Whenever Vi tries to do something good, her instinct is to just take it out by force, kind of like pulling out a tooth without a napkin or ANYTHING, and the gum starts bleeding. When Vi tries to tell her that they can start over, Jinx considers, however Caitlyn interrupts. Then Vi butts in again by telling her to envision her dead family, which are the voices that haunt her.
As you can see, Silco picks up the gun. However, he doesn't even intend to shoot Vi. You see smoke out of his gun, which means he already fired. There are also bullets NEXT to Vi's head instead of in them. He was just trying to tell her, "Hey, stop trying to hurt my daughter". However Powder thinks that he's trying to hurt Vi, so Powder comes out and shoots him. Then she instantly regrets it. Not just Jinx loves Silco, Powder does too. After Silco says 'You're perfect' it's obvious which is the better person for this damaged Powder/Jinx.
Vi is a good person, but she keeps accidentally hurting Powder. She still envisions her as the little girl she was 6 years ago, and chooses Caitlyn over her twice. However Silco prefers Jinx, although he'll still accept Powder as long as she doesn't abandon him. Vi only accepts Powder, while Silco accepts both with open arms, not even giving her for what he's been chasing for all his life. Jinx/Powder is perfect for Silco, but only Powder is perfect for Vi.
Anyway that's both of my take, if they all decided to live as a happy family, Caitly, Silco, Vi, and Jinx/Powder, that would be the best outcome, but I think it's too late for Jinx. Thanks for reading THIS REALLY LONG COMMENT, and Sorry for wasting your time.
This moment made me realize that no matter how much Silco wanted Zaun, he really came to see Jinx as his own daughter.
He spent years raising her. He may have used her to get his own ends, but he was willing to sacrifice nearly everything to keep her.