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This is Why A Toyota Lasts 300,000 Miles (But Mercedes Won't)
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- čas přidán 6. 01. 2023
- There are a lot of reasons a car will be reliable and a lot of reasons they won't. Today I'm going to walk you through the differences between Toyota and Mercedes cars, engines, electronics, buttons, fit and finish, and everything about these vehicles to show you exactly why a Toyota lasts 300 000 miles but a Mercedes won't. It's Toyota vs Mercedes reliability, and it's all on display.
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My 1995 Corolla had 18000 miles on it when I bought it. When I finally got rid of it, there we 425290 miles on it. It was a fantastic car.
The 1995 Toyota Corolla was a good vehicle but the new ones are junk
Wow
you obviously did not live in the rust belt as these cars rust just by looking at them
@@nobodyyouknow4319i mean japan doesn’t have snow so they don’t make em to resist it
@@user-360johnn Japan doesn't have snow? Go back to your geography class. Or simply google it.
I’m a former owner of Porsche and Mercedes. Now it’s Honda or Toyota and nothing else. It’s not just a cost of repair issue; it’s the terrible inconvenience of multiple trips to the dealer or of being stranded by the side of the road when “German engineering” lets you down. When I get into a car I want to turn the key and have it always start. That’s true luxury.
That’s fair….too much of a good thing can…
He’s going from Porsche to Honda, unless they’re going broke. Porsche is also very reliable for most their models
@@8MunchenBayern8 Or he went from SMART from recognizing Porsche is a sham ego CASH COW! and loosing his "A" on BADDDDDDDI Depreciation / Re-SALE...to the tune of $40 t0 50K in two years!!!!!!!! And FREAk'n $300 just to get reading and then getting Shafted for service!
Sure brokie.. back to your Hyundai
@@8MunchenBayern8 Agreed, Porsche are very reliable. The fact that he went from Porsche to Honda tells you it wasn't the reliability that was a deciding factor, it was 100% money/budget.
Reliability is the true luxury
This video should be taught to car manufacturers. Several years back I read an article about the research Toyota was conducting on screws, bolts and clips to be more robust and reliable while being cost effective as well. The kind of detailed analysis they were doing really impressed me.
It's called mechanical engineering. That's what they do.
Mercedes does the same. They literally have engineers sitting and discussing screws and bolts.
@@SDav21 yeah to make them as cheaply as they can possibly get away with. That’s value engineering, not simply mechanical engineering.
@@royfontaine5526 Luxury car brands like Mercedes got planned obsolescence built into their products. But the customers simply don´t care, they buy them because of prestige. Now guess who would ever buy an "ordinary" looking Toyota or Honda again, if not for the reliability ?
@@usernwn7qe I'm a potential Mercedes customer (I drive BMWs, which are similarly value-engineered nowadays) and I very much do care about longevity as well as prestige, and I'm sure I'm not alone. I also own Japanese cars for the record. I wish the German cars were better engineered, and the Japanese ones more refined and prestigious. But I guess you can't have everything.
I was a salesman at a Mercedes-Benz dealership. I had customers that were “Mercedes people” and that is all they buy. They are used to bringing their cars in to service and getting great treatment and are used to high maintenance and repair costs. For some buyers, it is their “I’ve finally made it” car that they always wanted. “The best or nothing”used to mean built better than anything else. Sadly, now it just means cars that are full of technology and not made nearly as well as the older ones.
SAAB were known for their excellent service, and Volvo for running for ever, with a minimum of service. Worked for Volvo (Cars and Trucks), inherited a SAAB, and a Ford, now drives Toyotas and the annual service cost is, as yet, is under €2,000, oil included! Not a thing ever went wrong with it, except a bulb needing replacing. Same car for ren years, no issues with anything, still with the original brake pads! Both the Ford (brakes were horrible) and the SAAB (BorgWarner gearbox) ate money, year round!
@@ErikssonTord_2 My wife’s 2010 Toyota Venza has the 2.7l 4cyl and has 190,000 miles (305,000km) on it. The only repair, aside from maintenance, was that we replaced the starter. And it feels like it will be good for several more years more.
I’m literally going to drive my Camry Hybrid until the wheels 🛞 fall off
@@seanparks1675 2007 Toyota Corolla 250 000 miles. Water pump: 40 USD, radiator 30 USD and starter 10 USD for the motor brushes.
@@Kevin-fm1vn Haha. I put Cadillac’s slogan instead of Mercedes :) I remember I sold a 2016 E550 Convertible with about 38000 miles on it. The shop bill was over $5000 to get everything done so we could sell the car as “Certified”. The car was beautiful and drove like a dream. But to spend over $5000 on a car with such low miles is disappointing. But it is like a watch. A $10,000 Rolex does not tell time much better than a $50 Casio. But nobody aspires to own a Casio or brags about it.
I once bought a 6 year old Corolla with 65K miles on it. I put another 50K, and sold it for nearly the same price in 2 years. Never had a single issue with it.
Where tf are you driving to put 50k miles in 2 years lmao
@@TheTemper-King Wtf d'u want
@@deller5924 it’s just surprising that you put that many miles in 2 years
@@TheTemper-King I had a job that involved driving a lot.
@@deller5924 fair enough
During the World Cup in Qatar, I was surprised to see Toyota's all over. The Oil tycoons mostly drives a Toyota or Lexus SUV. And a normal Taxi is also a Toyota Camry. Impressive stuff.
Also mainly a tax issue. How much tax the country puts for importing into your country.
Damn you would think folks out there would only drive Jaguars and Mercedes
@@kaypee1972talking out your ass
Oil tycoons do NOT mostly drive Toyota or Lexus.
Mate, they don't even bother driving....
I am Qatari & I can tell why ? Toyota the best car when it’s comes to the reliability especially it’s have the best ac & the less car having issue with hot weather .. strong engine & transmission including the body bushing .. steering rack. When it’s come to maintenance it’s way easy to work on it don’t forget the big market for the parts it’s to easy to find a parts for Toyota than anything else in the world 🌍
Qataris like Land Cruiser for all that reasons you trust this car more than anything else we called it the desert ship
Had a 97 carolla that lasted me ALMOST a million miles! The only reason I had to get rid of it was not because the engine stopped running, it was because the floorboards rotted out lol. The engine still popped on like new
This is the type of testimony that makes me excited, I am somewhat new to Toyota, gave up on Hyundai. Bought a used 2016 Corolla with 55k miles on it at the time, my job is very demanding, I desperately need something that can wrack up a lot of miles 😁🙏!!! So thanks for giving me hope.
I have a 98 Corolla 110 with a 5A engine. Apart from shocks, mountings, oil engine and transmission fluid changes, everything is the way it was exported. I bought it second hand in 2011 from a second hand car dealership in Japan. I think I won't buy any brand apart from Toyota. Spare and body parts available at a reasonable price and I do a lot of DIY on it instead of paying some mechanics (it is cost effective)
90's Corollas were the best made cars of all time
Toyotas are designed to be good cars for a long time, Mercedes and other German car brands are designed to be amazing cars for a short time.
Exactly
And with that said, Benz has fallen way off from their quality of the past and just not worth it for most. Especially used.
Lease a Benz when you have the $, never buy a new one.
@@gregpst77 I have to agree. I have never met a single person who purchased a semi-modern used Mercedes and didn't have to sink a ton of money into the thing at some point.
And American cars are designed as disposable cars unlike before..
That's why when you buy a luxury car, you're looking at a Lexus or something not European
I had a 1999 Toyota Camry that i swear was going to out live me. That car would not die. Finally sold it a few years ago because my kids no longer wanted to ride in it. They said it was too old. To be honest, it was a commuter car. When i sold it, it had 235,000 miles and it ran like new. I trusted that car more than newer rental cars I’ve driven. Today i still own a Toyota. Will always buy Toyota based on my experience with that Camry. She never left me on the road. Only asked for oil and gas. Nothing else…
Loved this video by the way. Made me a fan of the channel. 😊
Sounds like My 2000 Camry 4cyl .. These are some of the best cars Toyota ever made.
Absolutely. This video is spot on. I had a BMW which fell apart, then I had a Corolla which has lasted more than 10 times as long.
My diesel Toyota Avensis (not available in the US) lasted 150k miles before losing oil pressure, my 2015 E class diesel is on 194k with the same 8k oil intervals and it’s going strong! Nothing has really gone wrong with it either, touch wood
Wait the avensis is not available in the US?
My 2006 Corolla just turned 344k. The odometers on that gen freeze at 299,999. I keep track with trip B odometer for oil changes and business miles. Nothing major has gone wrong other than the ubiquitous parts that wear out on all cars. Though uses a small amount of oil and not as tight as it used to be, it still moves on down the road. It's one of 6 various Toyotas that I own...
I have 2003 corolla just turned 314k i bought it brand new in May 2003 this coming up May it will be 20 years still original water pump alternator and starter motor i have done only simple bare minimum maintenance burning 1 quart oil every 1200 miles not tight as used to be but stii gets 32 miles per gallon.
Awesome
@mikembz1Sounds familiar... I preventively changed the water pump some time back, starter made it into the 200's, and the alternator made 250k. In anticipation, I had an alternator in the garage for some time and when it went haywire, I pulled up at the house and was underway again in 20 minutes. My daughter's next gen (10) Corolla made only 160k on the alternator-more electronics on that one it looks like.
@Kevin Thanks for the MM Oil reminder. Consumption isn't too bad so that is worth a try. Might not have this '06 much longer- going to take back my '05 from my now college grad son with a mere 165k on it. (He is going to buy a client's "granny Lexus" a 2010 RX350 in mint condition). I think that I trained him well and my wife loves her Avalon...
I have 2019 Mercedes with 417K miles. At 380K my alternator died
Awesome work here. Not just talking about all the cheap plastic issues, but showing them first hand.
Excellent!
The CEO of Toyota isn’t “going electric”. He believes that this is a foolish plan.
So do i
We owned a Toyota Tercel that was the mousiest car in existence. It had a major design flaw; it kept turning on. I really miss that mouse.
Ditto!
Remember when Mercedes-Benz W123D (any diesel) could do 800k miles without breaking a sweat? Those were THE MERC™ And after 800k miles, the engine would still be fine. It was the bodywork that gave away due to so many NaCl (salt) on the roads were that were sprayed during the winter (snow)❄
I remember those MB on the road back in the eighties and nineties when I was a kid. Those cars were very reliable they were like tanks. The same with the Volvos. Those cars had the same good reliability as Toyota's back then. I wonder why the quality change? I believe that it's more profit for the company to produce low quality cars. Just think about it if you have to trade it in every 2 to 3 years that equals profits. Also if it stays in the shop frequently you have to buy the expensive parts which is another means of making money
@@bh2155 MB reliability was destroyed by poor subcontracting. The Lucas / Bosch parts were and are a constant failing point. The otherwise bullet proof diesels were plagued by injector failures (even though most failed past 200k miles but I digress).
Emissions standards ruined those cars from existing and I’d argue keeping a more polluting car around longer is better than having 3 other new cars to replace that one car
The V6 diesel of the modern E Class is still bulletproof.
@@xynostasos9022 Exactly 🎯
German automakers are synonymous with diesel engine. Since '70s & until 2006 when people would buy a German car, it would be a diesel one. Everyone assumed that.
"Oh, a Mercedes. 250 CDI probably. Owner: Gasoline (petrol) V8." Reaction from the onlookers and technicians? 🤨🤨🤨
Let's face it: German automotive industry was never renown for producing reliable/good gasoline engines🔎🔬
My mother has a 20yr old Corolla. Nothing in the drivetrain has ever had to be repaired, just normal wear and tear items such as brakes and exhaust replacement due to rust.. It has a timing chain not a belt so no worries there either. Most reliable car I have ever seen.
Some timing chains can wear out. Depends upon the design. But not a Toyota's!
@@soilmanted i have opel vivaro van, not the most sturdy, but the spair parts are so cheap, it also has timing chain. One time a mechanic said to me that it lasts for 500k km, so im still 100k good to go :)
@@tritonmole Cool! I just googled Opel Vivaro Van. I think maybe Stallantis imports some into the US but I don't think I've ever seen one here in North Carolina!
I had my Mercedes Benz ML350 2004 for about 20 years. Exterior is falling apart, but everything is really good. Bottom frame, everything under the hood and the interior is still really good for a car around 240,000 km. Some rubber pipes have started to become fleamsy, but I did the Vietnam War way and duct taped the hell outa it.
I think the Mercs in 70’s and 80’s were highly reliable because of less electronics and less cost cutting during those times.
and it was made of love tbh ..
Exactly but those cars are old now and age just deteriorates cars, but overall old mercs way better that the new dissapointing mercs
Bought myself a 2008’C300 last month. Last owner had it for 13 years and it has 121000 miles. The V6 engine feels silky smooth and I’m sure it could run for another 100k. Although it will cost more to maintain than the equivalent Accord or Camry, the driving experience makes it worth it for me
Totally agree
As a former BMW owner, I would say, just wait until the problems and repair bills start rolling in and we will see if you still feel it’s “worth it” 😂
@@Matys1975 I was born in the UK and from the age of 18, (53 years old now) I’ve had European cars, VWs, Audis, Opels and years of BMWs. Plus I’ve owned Japanese cars too, (currently own a 2022 WRX. I know about the repair bills of BMWs and the like. If I couldn’t afford to maintain an old Mercedes Benz then I wouldn’t have bought one. Life’s too short to drive boring cars. 😛
@@lash9400 I find my Mazda 6 with a 2.5 liter turbo engine and brown leather interior to be not so boring but I still expect it to outlast a German car 😂
@@Matys1975 Nice, I love Mazdas. Had a Mazda 6 for 11 years until my nephew decided to pull apart the interior lol. Enjoy your ride fella 👍🏾
I've owned a Corolla & Tacoma and both of those vehicles were the epitome of reliability, which is why that brand will be my final end of life car vehicle. Great video Mark.
You want your end of life car vehicle to be Toyota? "Life is too short to drive boring cars"
Me too. So done with the stupid problems I used to experience with American cars. We have Toyota’s exclusively now. That said, I'm not a fan of some of the newer Toyota models. The new Tundra sucks! Thankfully the Toyotas we have will outlast us.
@@proudam3969 Maybe life is too short to drive unreliable cars with constant silly problems?
Our 04 Corolla was going strong at 360 000 kms. Traded for a new 16 RAV 4 for my wife. My 13 Tacoma was going strong at 170 000 kms when i traded for a 20 Tundra.
@@lancelemay6971 Yea that's why I was replying to the person that said the Toyota will be the end of life vehicle......person already has a short life left if it's a end of life last vehicle.... might as well drive something more exciting. BTW I drive a 2022 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid, 2019 Lexus GX 460 and a 2021 BMW X3........The BMW X3 hands down is the best vehicle.....might not be as reliable like the Toyota and Lexus when it gets older but I really enjoy driving the BMW and the interior is really good.
My grandma always said: The more bells and whistles you have on something, the more things to break!
Back around 1995, mother once owned a 1994 (or 1995) Mercedes-Benz S420 (less than 100 miles on the clock) which she loved and drove around enjoyably. After a while, some issues crept in and made the engine not as responsive as it should have been. After a few trips to service for issues now and again, she traded it in for a BMW 7-Series. When I asked her what car she had that was the best to own, her answer? Her Mark 2 Toyota Supra.
Around that same time, I purchased a 1985 Toyota Corolla sedan, 5-speed manual (basically a blue box with a cassette player, manual windows and locks and air conditioning). I got it with around 50,000 miles on the clock from an old lady who was the neighbour of my ex-wife's (wife at the time) stepfather. I paid $600 for it. I had all four engine belts snap on me on the way back home from New Orleans and when I pulled into the apartment parking lot, I could hear the coolant boiling in the block. The next morning, I changed all 4 belts, added new coolant and cranked it. She purred like nothing ever happened. In 5 years, because I was a welder who worked all over the country, I put over 400k miles on her until I was t-boned by a Chevy Suburban. Because there was no damage to the engine or gearbox, I took it out and sold it to a guy who needed an engine for a 1986 Corolla, a cheap car for his daughter for college...
...it lasted another 8 years...Since that time, I have owned two more Corollas. I now live in Australia with my current wife, where our daily driver is, happily, a Camry, which we will trade in for a Camry Hybrid sometime this year. Trust me - I need VERY little convincing about Toyota's reliability.
That reads like a movie script!
Did you learn to drive on the left?
@@JerrySeriatos Yep. And I've gotten rather proficient at it.
I have a 2001 Camry and it’s still running great with no issues at all.
I'm driving my 1998 Camry, bought it brand new it's still running fine; it has 225K miles on it, eventually I want another Toyota later this year, if and when it's ok to buy a vehicle again. I'm considering a Rav Hybrid or a Subaru Crosstrack...
Agree, love the Camry! You can keep it a long time with no worries. Congrats on such a fine car.
I was a BMW owner for over 15 years. Loved the cars and still do. The same problems and costs you talked about here plus a major engine issue in a car with less than 40,000mi drove me away.
I replaced it with a Camry and couldn't be happier. I'm sure long term, the Camry will be the car of choice!
I replaced my Camry with SEVERAL bimmers & haven't been happier; from a shitty stinky dusty '94 Camry V6SE coupe no woman with self respect would ever bat an eye at; to an '03 540iA Msport Dinan Stage II; Sterling Gray on black sport interior; polished aluminum M kick plates; maaaaan that joint pulled me HELLA women; the Camry chased 'em all away (not to mention, the M62TUB44 DOHC V8 w/ Vanos & Valvetronic was *MILLIONS OF TIMES EASIER TO WORK ON than the sideways 1MZ-FE V6 of the Camry* ; hiding sparkplugs underneath intake manifolds, & goofy shit like cramming everything under the firewall so you can't do simple maintenance without visiting a shop or dealer; *SCREW TOYOTA* to *HELL*
@chungus khan toyota is surely reliable car but BMW is a cooler car
@@chungus_khan you made a very important point. A car a woman would bat an eye for. That's the primary reason people buy bmw.
You are probably lying
Bmw was fourth on the list so almost as reliable as toyota :/
My 1994 Pontiac Trans Am that I bought new, has 338.000 miles on it. The engine has never been touched, even the timing chain is original. Stil runs like new, uses no oil. Engine is the LT1 . The whole car has been very good.
That Camry is a keeper. Please make mine with a 6 speed manual and I will give it a good long term test.
The last Toyota Camry that had a manual transmission was a 2009.. and that will be the last one..
check ihhs crash test scores. its been great for long time ocmpared to even newer cars
@@kalmmonke5037 The Camry is rated a top safety pick "Plus". The Honda Accord is rated a top safety pic.
The Camry is even a notch better than the Accord..
The Camry is even rated better than the Toyota 4Runner. Most people will think since it's a big bulky vehicle that it would be safer but it is not ..the same goes for a lot of other big heavy vehicles.
@@charlesjackson1700 Actually 2010, but the later ones after the refresh are unicorns. Would love to find a 2010 Camry SE 6 speed with the 2AR engine.
@@charlesjackson1700 If you're willing to have a car shipped from an overseas country, you can still get a manual Camry.
The W204 and W212 were the last reliable MB products...got over 300K miles on my w204 still my daily besides my Jaguar S-Type 2008 3.0 V6...still has that "Bank Vault" feel when you open and close the doors...very solid.
I also have a w204 no complaints at all
ive got 155k miles on my w212 e550 daily driven, solid cars
@@techzillapro4936 I had one too. But it had so much rattles even with only 18,000 on. I sold it and got a W212. Does yours also rattle a lot?
Depends also on how well you take care of your car. I have MB V6’s that are 9, 10, 17, and 18 yo. Take your MB’s to a specialist rather than the dealership to save on costs.
You can never go wrong with Toyota. My mother still drives her 2006 Corolla and over the years it’s been in 3 accidents and after all that it’s still refuses to fail. So far it’s approaching 300k miles and it’s still running.
My 2002 Mercedes Benz E55 W210 has 145k and counting as my daily. Reliability depends on often you do preventative maintenance and following service intervals which many people neglect and then call their vehicle unreliable.
A 2002 and 2001 W210 owner here. The only time I was stranded was a dead battery (13 years old!) and a crank shaft position sensor. Otherwise, very solid cars with proper care. Enjoy your 55!
I know someone with a 2005 E class.......over 370,000 miles...the engine is very solid and running.
Preventative maintenance is everything.
@@Death_Metal_Head Yes if you own an older V8 MB the crank shaft position sensor _will_ fail and costs 50 bucks to replace. Better to do it in advance.
Anything up to 2005 is fine,after that merc and bmw started their cost cutting.
Even up to today, merc is now using a lower grade leather in ALL their models, and that's just the leather.
This video helped me decide my next car wasn't going to be a Benz AMG SL but rather a Lexus LC500. I knew it really, I just needed the extra justification. Thanks for the insights.
Had a E55 AMG over 200k miles no real issues not even suspension
Benz is much better quality
@@babagandu yeah, as it can be seen from this video, almost no difference between a merc and a corolla :))
Great choice man great choice im lusting over a structural blue lc500 thing is a beauty
@@VYPRUSMods that's a cheap Benz in the video ... SL is high end
Point well made. In my case, a BMW, and two Mazdas. No comparison is maintenance costs, reliability and cost of ownership. I love both brands, but for different reasons. The BMW is sport luxury. I love the heated steering wheel, and four heated seats. A remarkable car to drive or ride in. Now, I've driven Mazda to Texas and Canada. It was fun, but not exactly relaxing. A non stop blast Dallas to NYC was, well, tiring. South Carolina to NYC in a BMW was a walk in the park. In 5 years, our Mazda needed NOTHING. Oil changes, key batteries. Last week the battery finally died. First time the car let me down. At 90k, my BMW has been good, but not like the Mazda. A thousand spent on an airbag light. A thermostat gone bad; with the electric waterpump ands a coolant flush for prevention, 1500$ Same with rear shocks. Common on wagons- and a thousand. EVERYTHING on the car starts at a grand. Now, in fairness, when the BMW goes down, I get a brand new one. Even when I had to drive to Virginia for a week. Nice dealership. Great snacks. Plus, the novelty of being treated politely in a car dealership. My Kia Soul was a good car, but I literally cringed going into the dealership. Every part of the experience was low rent.
My 2001 Mercedes E430 has 227,000 miles on it and it runs and drives like a new car. Doesn't use a drop of oil between 10,000 mile changes. Has never broken down and left me stranded.
This is one of the most comprehensive quality comparisons I have ever seen. Great job! My impression is that Toyota exterior and engine build quality is better but the interior in the Benz and Toyota are about the same. We need to see the build quality in an E Class - hopefully it is more sturdy. For the money Benz needs to step it up!
Toyota & Benz interior are definitely not the same
hey you listened to me and bought a camry! I have a 22 TRD camry. 1st new car ever purchased. First toyota. I intend to own it for years and years. I'll take quality and longevity over luxury any day. I'm looking forward to my first "repair" likely being tires at about 40,000.
Drove them both. Sold the Merc (200D) with 450,000km and the Toyota Auris Hybrid is still going strong at 280000 km. Neither had anything big go wrong: just regular maintenance and the occasional small repair.
Maintenance is key
@@ECPP some newer trannies are doomed even if well-maintained. think DSG or CVTs. compare it to 4 speed auto or ZF8HP
My VW beetle turbo has actually lasted a surprisingly long time. It’s a 2003. That said, I just downgraded it from a daily driver after using it for that purpose the entire 8 years I’ve had it. My new commuter car is now a Toyota and I’ve been impressed by the repair record on it. Hoping that pattern continues.
Might be a 1.8t 20v last German engine to last
High resale value, excellent reliability, won't leave you stranded, no cvt, no turbo, great fuel economy. I've had my 2019 camry for nearly 4 years and it runs like the day I bought it. Paid 24k for mine and could have sold it last year for 24k with the insane used car prices we had.
Camry no cvt, a plus.
Camry does use a cvt doesn't it?? My wife's 2014 has one I believe.
@@andrewcox7179 No, the Camry has an 8-speed automatic transmission.
@@andrewcox7179 camry has a hybrid which used eCVT which is different from regular CVTs that are now in corollas and also corolla has a hybrid which uses eCVT. The difference between eCVT versus CVT is that eCVT uses electric motors whereas CVT runs like regular automatic but doesn't have gears. I have a 2020 corolla LE with a regular CVT and all I can say is the engine runs really smooth and the fuel mileage is quite decent. One doesn't have to hit the throttle when going from a stop with a cvt, it's just not going to happen but once it gets going it will go. The 2023 corolla for all trim levels have a physical first gear before going into CVT and it's a 2.0 litre engine. Regardless of that they are all reliable
@Alvin Simba great info. Thanks for the detailed reply!
That dynamic force engine in the Camry is actually pretty peppy around town I have the previous engine and drove the new one and was really impressed. Especially for what it is.
I am not sure what you are comparing the camry to to call it peppy. I test drove a new camry and that thing was painfully slow. My 2009 camry accelerates much quicker, it has much more room inside and does not feel like plastic everywhere.
I had a ' 99 C-280. It made me nervous watching him work all the controls. They were very flimsy. It was almost worthless at 8yrs and 60,000 miles. My '15 Yaris is at 508,000 and going strong. ( A/C works and has never been touched ). Also have a '17 RAV 4 at 200,000 same thing.
I have quite the opposite experience with Mercedes. I have been driving an E550 2010 for 7 years now... I bought it second hand and I have barely had any problems.
I'll take substance over style everyday, Toyota
The Mercedes models that will last 300k miles are the old ones. But even then, you'll spend more money than you would spend on an equivalent toyota to get there.
You mean real Mercedes Benzes. These are like any modern car built to last 7 years. They want to sell you a new.
The 3.5l v6 is used in taxis all over the world so is the 3.0 diesel. They are pretty bullet proof.
@@patrickcannell2258 more like for the past 30 years they are making junks
Yeah..but us merc drivers keep them and move them on after 3-4 ..yrs i have a c.class coupe 220d...beautiful...e.class coupe coming in march...blimey you got a right pig in a poke on your merc...!...Toyota bland 😴
Everything you are saying is 110% TRUE! I still own a 2000 Toyota Corolla with 118,000 +... It still drives like it's New because I take care of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you very much
My 2007 Mercedes E-Class has now almost 500,000 km on it. And it is reliable. Relaxing to drive on highway. Toyota that i could have buy for the same price would be objectivly uglier, less comfortable and more boring, tho it is newer. So yeah, it is sad to see how Mercedes became less reliable over the last decade and quality went down a lot.
Also, they are not really comparable, as Mercedes-Benz is high tech premium class auto. I don't think it is currently that different than the Audi and BMW in terms of reliability. But Lexus is on another level. Luxurious Toyota.
Over 50 years of driving, I've owned GM x3, (two used, one new), Chrysler x1, Audi x1, Mercedes AMG x1, BMW x1, Honda (and Acura) x6, Toyota (and Lexus) x5. There is a pattern that emerges here. Hands down, the Japanese cars are the most reliable, provide the best fuel economy, and are the cheapest to maintain and repair, with the best build quality overall. The Toyotas provided the best overall value, just slightly ahead of the Hondas. Granted, the driving experience was better in the BMW, but the ownership experience and the cost of owning and driving the Bimmer was lacking far behind the Toyotas and Hondas. Edge goes to the Toyotas and Lexus overall, but that's my personal view only.
Can you give me some suggestions for a reliable european car? Thanks
Although I've owned three European cars (Audi, Mercedes and BMW), after my experiences will all three I'm reluctant to give a good review on European reliability. None of the three I owned showed great, or even good, reliability. I would say if you are only considering European cars, be prepared to pay up for maintenance and repairs caused by unreliability. In my case Audi was the worst, with BMW a close second and Mercedes not far behind. If you are even looking at Audi, I would suggest a deep dive on their reliability issues and the expense involved in repairing simple things such as thermostats. Horrible engineering and design render even the most simple Audi repairs a labour and financial nightmare. And this says nothing about engine work on Audis. I pity the owners who have to have major engine work done...particularly the S or RS models. And those models are particularly prone to major engine repairs being required. Beware, and be informed.
@@schultz5394 Thanks a lot. It seems mercedes is the best in these german brands.
Actually the reason I have owned 2 lexus suvs and 2 toyota suvs is i know toyota is the best.
2021 Corolla le, es 350 and the last 2022 Highlander platinum.
I got myself at 2023 Toyota Camry Can't go wrong with the car can't go wrong with the brand . Not the most technologically advanced but at the same time Just like you explain technology don't last forever and when it's time to replace it it breaks the bank so keep it simple.
You can keep it for 20 years easy, it will stand it.
The large Mercedes Dealer near my house in NJ has to keep and maintain a Fleet of close to 100 late model "Loaners", because of all of their customer's service issues. The Dealer provides the Loaner as part of the Mercedes "Service" you pay via the expensive MSRP. Without the Mercedes "Service Loaner" program, the Mercedes brand would crash and burn.
I've had cars since the early 1980s, just bought my first Toyota - at 19 years old with only 135,000 miles on the clock, this Avensis 1.8 feels like it has just about finished running in! I'm over the moon with it!
Toyota is the best vehicle in the whole wide world.
Some Mercedes models are reliable too. Just parts and labor are expensive. Also harder to work on yourself. I almost bought a used S Class but changed my mind after I saw the maintenance cost.
I like German cars because they give your mind some extra work when servicing them the first few times- it's pretty fun to decipher how the engineers thought processes went into designing things. Wouldn't recommend it for anyone that doesn't like working on their own cars/isn't interested in engineering.
P.S. Old BMW are good cars, just require the normal maintenance when you first get it and then the cooling system every 5 years.
Thanks Man for the video. Mercs now don't seem to be on longevity paths. Its why am stuck with my w202 for every day movements, G270d for my upcountry and w126 for special visits. New mercs have failed to replace old mercs in my region because of so many issues and high maintenance costs.
Toyota has the better engine startup sound to me
My neighbors up the street when I was a child bought two Mercedes sedan diesels . They both outlasted the parents & their children 😮
This is not only true for cars by the way. I’ve worked in the oil and gas industry and often dealt with German top drives and other heavy duty equipment. Unreliability is the hallmark of German engineering. You can get decently luxurious cars with great reliability nowadays (ex. Lexus) there’s no reason you’d want to buy German junk anymore.
Bollox
Mercedes: overpriced, not reliable, super expensive to repair for service and parts.
This makes me want to go out to my Camry, pat it on the hood and say, "Good girl" 😍
The old BMW motorcycles pre-1969 were beautiful machines. There were numerous
rollar bearings and shaft drive. On the ivory and black models, the initials of the
pin strippers were put under the fenders. The BMW emblems were made out of
porcelin and had a brilliant blue on them. The solo seats on these had a brilliant
rubber vs spring action. We are one of the lucky guys that remember the older
days of BMW. The Mercedes Sprinter? They’ve always been rust buckets. But,
at least, the older ones didn’t have the DEF nightmare.
Cheers
I agree, I had a used '71 Toaster tank 75/5 I bought in Buffalo NY while working and rode it back to Dallas. Almost made it the whole way, but the weather got so bad in OK that I shut down. This was in 1984.
You gotta change your signature line "Life's too short to drive boring cars". Can't say that and buy a Camry at the same time. Camry, no disrespect, is a synonym for boring. It is well designed and highly reliable and I do agree with that part.
Thanks
For a perfect balance I'd keep the Benz as a weekend toy, the Toyota as a daily driver.
That’s how I roll too. It’s not to say a person should not buy one, it’s just they should be aware of the costs and pitfalls. Still worth it for those who can afford.
I'm a Toyota man too. I been driving Priuses for the past 10yrs or so because of their reliability. My old prius has over 400k miles on it. I got rid of it a few months ago. It still ran fine. just couldn't pass emissions testing because of the oil bypass problem with the piston rings. It was ruining my catalytic converter. If the frame wasn't rusting I would have just replaced the motor. 800 dollars for a headlight assembly just about made me have a heart attack though lmao. And that's just the part not the labor. 2k for a headlight assembly just makes me laugh because it's laughable. I hope the newer Toyotas have more of the features that the other brands have now. Because I found that even though Toyota is very very reliable, they tend to steer away from heavy tech. Which is understandable because that keeps prices down and reliability up. But... lol
@Don holy moly! 😮
@Don 😂😂😂 i could buy a whole nother brand new car and a half for 35k. You guys are going to laugh me into the grave
Life’s too short…
Great car, everything fine! Oh yeah, rusted up frame, worn engine… 🤣🤣🤣
It’s burning oil a bit but my 2003 Scion (Toyota) Xb (bB)’s powertrain is still running well without issues after +200k miles. All I did was doing oil chain in time and replacing worn out parts.
Egr/PCV/oil service
I have just subscribed to your channel, because of your precise captivating ,pithy presentation. I admire your brevity without missing out on the essentials. Good work.
That's why I fatefully drive my 01 Camry with over 400k miles it. Been driving it 5 years. Only had to do front brake pads, and wheel bearings. Love that old Camry.
I went to Autozone in Geneva Ohio and the manager was telling me how his son was a technician for Lexus before the pandemic. After almost 2 years this Lexus technician got hired at a Ford dealership and he keeps pondering why Ford makes their servicing so hard.
I will never understand why people continue to buy Ford, Dodge, Chevy, Tesla, Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, etc. I am guessing that they are not even doing any kind of investigation before they purchase a second most expensive item in their life's.
Maybe because they want to try something different and not drive the same car for their whole life?
@@Aquve honestly what kind of loser base their excitement on transportation?
@@alexanderchenf1 What do you base your excitment on? Minors? Enjoy your 1.6 corolla
@@Aquve gym. Hiking in places that I have never been to. Swimming in a lake. A great meal. Maybe in the future Bungee hump. No, I am not a child molester like you. Stop projecting
I switched from BMW and Mercedes to a Prius more than 10 years ago because there were quality problems with the German cars. With the Prius I only had to change the 12V battery twice. I would like to switch to Tesla, but the Prius runs and runs and runs... Unfortunately, I'm an engineer and it is against my principles to give away a perfectly driving vehicle.
You know, it's not quite true. At least for Audi. We've got 120K miles on our RS6 and never had any major maintenance except from a timing chain and some seal on the center diff. It has always had proper oil changes, no cheaping out but even then the car is an absolute dream to drive. I mean there's probably a difference in maintenance cost yes but there is also a huge difference in driving comfort and performance.
Any one who buys German cars is ignorant.
We have a 2021 Camry LE, purchased new and we are trading it in for a new 2023 Toyota RAV4, which we had to order due to the high demand in the US and the only reason for the trade is we need another highly reliable car but with cargo space and AWD for winters. In 2004, we had a new C320 which we called our "starter Benz" and it was also our "final Benz". By the way, oil changes at 5000mi, even if a manufacturer says 10K, and that 4cyl Toyota, with its naturally aspirated engine taking 0-W16 will last three fold of that German stool sample.
Japanese cars are my favorite ones. I personally like Mazda the most but I love them all. My daily is a 2016 Mazda 6 GT with 84,000 miles. I've had zero issues with it. My toy is a 2020 Jaguar f-pace SVR and I've been very fortunate with it. No issues either and it has only 30,000 miles. I believe the SVR hasn't given me any problems because it comes with a Ford 5.0 V8 engine. I can't speak for the rest of the Jags. I'm not sure if the factory Jag engines have improved their quality.
I'm tempted by either the F-Pace SVR or the F-Type SVR. Not sure which one to go for though!
Great teaching moment, even though I got a Jag XF 2011 for the past 10years. Best car ever for me, just hit 120k miles and still going strong.
My mom has a 2010 Toyota Corolla with over 300k mileage
Im stuck on this channel or scotty kilmer
Scotty gets too far out on some things.. He knows very little about vehicles past the 2010 mark. He gives out a lot of advice that is not correct and later on he will change his view and reasoning and contradict what he said in a previous vehicle.
🇸🇪 I bought a brand new Toyota Hiace m.y 2010 here in Sweden (the European version with longer wheelbase) and drove 260.000 km without one trouble or fail of any kind. It felt and looked almost like new after 9 years when I sold it.
My 2014 E220 is strongly going on with 261k miles on it. All I have done is frequent oil changes, replaced my gas pedal and that small tow hook plastic cover on the back bumper and that's it, whereas my 2008 Mazda (not toyota sorry) had its oil rings, pistons, valves, timing belt, water pump and differential replaced at 80k miles. All they told me was this is normal wear for Mazdas that age. I have owned and own both for 1 year.
I've had lots of different cars and I've sold lots of different brands...once you get a Toyota it's hard to go back to anything else...these things are freakishly reliable and low almost no maintenance...you'll say goodbye to mechanics... Everything else is junk..imo..
240,000km on my w212 E550 and still loving it. I do all my own work and save thousands (I am a mechanic). Air suspension has needed some minor work (rear bags) in the last 4 years and the engine mounts just replaced but that’s about it. I’m a Toyota guy at heart (Landcruisers mostly) but I give it to the Germans on the w212. It feels like a very high quality car even after 13 years. So much so that I wouldn’t consider buying a brand new one a real upgrade.
Nice
same here, only mine is w211, absolute panzer of a car, 470k kilometers on odo and it looks, feels and drives better than many of today cars and it's a 20 year old car (yes mine is one of the first ones of the assembly line back in '02. that supposedly had problems with electrics and airmatic suspension), merc is still merc :)
I have a humble 2010 VW Passat CC, bought it at 100k miles, on 160k miles now and never had a problem, just oil and tyres. Saying that I’ve heard rumours that VW started outsourcing to China, and the newer VWs aren’t as reliable.
Very nice!
My Australian built 2005/06 model TOYOTA Camry has 250,000km. The V6 engine is whisper quiet and is no slouch either. My mechanic reckons it will last another 250,000km. I have replaced only one part; the alternator at 200,000km and last week replaced the original drive belt at 250,000km. It starts first shot Spring, Summer, Autumn or Winter. The A/C, heater, transmission, power steering everything works like new. Just an amazing, amazing car.
That sounds like a really good run
@@ECPP During the pandemic I was stuck overseas for 7 months due to Australian border closures. The car was parked outside during autumn and winter and my wife didn't bother to start it. On my return obviously the battery had died. After I replaced the battery it roared back to life as if I had used it the night before. I was shocked. 🙂
I think the 2002-2006 model was the best built Camry ever. Its solid as a rock. I have done several Melbourne to Sydney runs in it (850km) and its just been a pleasure to drive.
My 2008 Honda accord now has 278000 miles on it. Yes have done regular maintenance in it. Can’t wait to get to that 300k mark
200 $ an hour shop rate to get it fixed....that is insane !!
Honestly it depend on the merc , I've got two mercedes my first 1 is a c270 cdi (w203 2002) and my new car à c350 2010. Both are bulletproof 😅 The diesel one is a old Lady (for a car) and still kicking , eating road and the torque is awesome still going against newer merc , bmw etc . As for the new one v6 gas I just love the fact that I don't have a turbo and fell in love with how she handle the road . Less stress it means less parts to replace .
The interior of your C300 seems much better put together than every other one I've seen either in person or on YT.
MBs in the '70s and the '80s will last that long. With real leather! The problem these days is getting parts. I agree with you that you can't beat Toyota quality, reliability and dependability. But, it is a must that you take care of them!!!
Thanks for the great video! Alot of people need to see this so they know what to expect when you buy a European brand.
My 2010 hybrid Camry is almost touching the 300K miles mark. The only issue I have with it is that the driver's seat is having a few cuts and tears.
It still gives the same mileage as the advertised brand new. No leak. No rust. No noise no oil burn, No nothing. This car is driving at least 800 miles every week.
Benz can stick that dipstick up.
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I do think it’s important to understand that today’s Mercedes are actually a lot cheaper than back in the 80s and 90s. And sadly it really shows. I have a 1983 S class Mercedes that is still going strong but, if you adjust for inflation, it cost about 60% more than the equivalent model on sale today.
I have a 1998 Mercedes Benz c230. And we have not spent any money on repairs. Only thing that has ever been changed was the fuel pump for less than a thousand bucks. It was my first ever car and I still have it.
How about the quality of 2022 mercedes cars?
@@JIMMY-ck1oe well I personally don’t own one so I cannot speak based on something I have not tried. I do have a c300 2016 as well as a cls63 2013 and both have been good so far as well.
Some people say that euro cars are meant to be driven quite often, they don't like to be left out. Sitting them for a long time causes a lot of problems
I had the mindset that I couldn’t go wrong with a Camry and that it would last. I got a 2007 - it’s piston rings changed my mind. I decided to give Toyota another chance on a Gen 3 Tacoma. After a $4300 bill for a common timing belt cover leak I am now done with the brand.
Great video. Right as I was looking to upgrade from a civic to a 330i...I'll just buy a newer, fully loaded civic again lol. I just want a own a car for many years and not pay hella money for repairs.
My 2014 camery crushing it with 147000 miles. It never once hasn't started.
My little honda 1/2 ton lockup has 305,000 miles.and somehow it still runs...its incredible
That’s great
Had three camry's 1988, 2001, 2012, and 2014 accord v6. Great cars. Still own accord. But my Merc C300 2021 AMG Line is on another level.
The video starts - "Life is to short to drive boring cars".
I like Toyota
Cheers
I've seen multiple 2.0 engines from newer mercedes rocking 150k-200k. You just have to maintain them.
Yes for sure, the Merc engines are generally solid but pricey maintenance does come with that equation